Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial I 14 August 2024

[@ThaboThabang-q9z]

Judge Ratha is a state witness, it’s been clear from the get go, it’s worse now, he is not even hiding it. He is part of the cooking. What a disgrace, sies man.

[@duchessdame150]

This judge is a DISGRACE to the nation, he needs to be call to order!

[@ThaboThabang-q9z]

Ratha is a state witness not a judge ! I’m happy this is happening brought day light, I hope producers are watching and already producing a series, showing biased of this judge and how when the state hits a wall, suddenly there’s a new document. We are watching corruption live on television.

[@Chibvunza]

We are watching justice for Senzo .I am very happy we have closure they can't deny the calls .The way Mnisi is whack even the interpreter is helping him😂😂😂

[@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637]

​@@Chibvunza And also, , I've been watching since 10 today, and Mnisi is going back and forth with this lying witness, he doesn't even seem to have researched a simple thing like this +2 hour rule that this witness have alluded to, if he'd have done that, he'd have told this witness with confidence that he's lying and fabricating non existing evidence, because there's no such thing, the +2 the standard South African time, as per the Coordinated Universal Time for the Globe. He keeps on saying the witness is lying without putting the counter version of facts. Yes, this witness is lying, but Mnisi doesn't know for sure that he is. They are making Baloyi's job an easy one.

[@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637]

​ Even if it was true, which we know it isn't, it's still too convenient that accused number 5 decided to call Kelly exactly 2 hours after Arthur's call, and did not only call her, but also decided to call her for the same duration as Arthur, don't you find that odd? It's very odd to begin with. Now it's clear that accused number 5's number was squeezed in to support the narrative of the state.

[@khanyilekhanyile436]

​@@ChibvunzaWena dakiwe

[@Chibvunza]

​@@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637he called Kelly on 2 separate occasions.So there's a case to answer to ,the question that bothered police and me .Who robs 7 people with 10 cellphones and only take one ?leaving a bmw X6 and run on foot ? And enter into a scuffle with those people but there's only one casualty? That's where the smoke was ,which led to where we are a "contractual Killing" organized by Kelly elaborated by these calls .What does Kelly have to do with hitman that killed people for a living and killed witnesses incl his own cousin not unless it was her that ordered the hit 🫡.Allegedly

[@dukemasengana]

So, when Ratha calls Adv Mnisi, by his name, Adv Mshololo by name, Adv Mngomezulu by name, there is no problem. He sees nothing wrong with that. He now has to address the court to protect the Mukhuwa Steyn. When the witnesses become rude and hostile towards defense, does this Jan Van Rathaburg do anything to admonish them? No!! So shut up Ratha and count the money in the envelope since you can't do what you are supposed to do in court. 🇿🇦

[@Adjudicator246]

In court, individuals could be addressed by their surname. It is more respectful to use the appropriate title for those of higher rank or qualification. Referring to someone by their first name can be seen as impolite and disrespectful. Hence, the judge did not act inappropriately when he sometimes called some people by their surname.

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

😂😂😂😂😂 van rathaburg 😂😂😂😂😂 sounds like old small town with one long street passing in the middle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MoeketsiMopa-bv3em]

This judge is very unprofessional and I just can't believe that he is so poor in professionalism

[@yvonnemwamba6156]

Did you see the brown envelope wena?? How much is in there bcz u can't only mention the envelope am sure you saw it so tell me who paid who and when?? When you are loosing just accept than lie

[@Adjudicator246]

@yvonnemwamba6156 lol. You argue with hot air. It's not too different from Mnisi. No wonder you admire him.

[@dukemasengana]

Ex judge Ratha has no shame. Who's fooling who? We see through his sham sermon. We see that he is defending the state and the state's witnesses. By giving this address, he is intimidating the defense and restraining the defense counselors from cross examining with effect. Justice and fairness principles are relative. If it must be accorded to the state witness, it must be accorded to the accused as well. 🇿🇦

[@EvelineGontes]

How many innocent people did these State employees put in jail..

[@andilesobuza6496]

Prove that

[@Confused-Lost]

Why prove when its obvious

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

Go to Kgosi Mmampuru prison and ask this question to Tshegofatso Pule's killers.

[@Confused-Lost]

@@walterndlovu-f2f Ntuthuko was guilty evidence was led and it made sense. We are not saying these guys especially 3&5 are angels we accept they are criminals but the State cannot prove with fabrication their guilt on the Senzo case.

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

@@Confused-Lost Be specific, what did the state fabricated and do you have prove?

[@nokubongamaphalla7166]

26.10.2024 we need to fill up the court.

[@joasbafana9124]

Justice for the accused and senzo

[@LizzieNosiphoMali]

Mnisi one man standing Ratha don't mess with young minds🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lungelomnguni2870]

😂😂😂Ratha is trying shame😂

[@Chibvunza]

Lol, will you let Mnisi represent you ?

[@manqobankomo9554]

True Ratha is a state witness.Hes an embarrassment to the Judiciary

[@selvannaidoo4931]

IT STARTS WITH YOU JUDGE. IT STARTS WITH YOU. YOU DONT RESPECT THE DEFENCE

[@Godswillmpofu]

Please let's have a petition and remove this useless judge who is spoiling this case

[@Chibvunza]

Lol, you tried and failed .Sinqobile Maphisa got 5000 to sign it 😂😂😂.So don't waste your breath defending criminals .These are guilty .Allegedly

[@casperkhambule]

Crc

[@lebokhaphela2332]

No, we can't afford to have another judge. We can't start this case afresh. Let's continue, the truth will come out

[@khanyilekhanyile436]

​@@Chibvunzakahle chico twala awusiyeke uyasidakelwa wena

[@Chibvunza]

@@khanyilekhanyile436 lol Chicco Twala wenzan?🤣🤣🤣🤣ngiyazi lezinsizwa ezangakini futh nina le ngakini ubunkabi umsebenzi awuboni lutho oku wrong .Zizogwetshwa ,ashile amahlathi ngathi uSteyn angafika noPinkie namhlanje kuvele kushube ngoba phela all witnesses lie to frame these guys and bona out of the honourable people that testified yibo aba innocent balokho baqamba amanga njalo

[@dukemasengana]

The defense has completely lost any respect for the judge. He did this to himself. 🇿🇦🤣🔥

[@abemosiuoa6449]

Let this so-called judge dig his own disgrace grave and regret ever raising his greedy hand to come and preside in this crucial matter (i) where a life is lost, and (b) where five lives are allegedly accused of murder, and (c) where persons of interest are out there abusing drugs and substance.

[@nobuhlemathenjwa71]

I can't wait for Mzansi Reality where the behaviour of this Judge will be discussed

[@MapitsiMothapo]

Me too

[@Chibvunza]

Mzansi reality is another useless channel .From the beginning they are shielding th3se 5 guys and misleading you in the process abo Emily nabo anonymous 😂😂. I question for your channel,what happened to them defending Ntanzi that he was paying lobolo in Kwanongoma the day Senzo was killed and 2023 uNtanzi turned them into liars 😂😂😂

[@luthandosicam4694]

Judge is embarrassingly based, he goes out of the way to protect state witnesses but same courtesy is not extended to defense.. 😢😢. He's an embarrassment and needs to be removed. Even an unintelligent person can see his nonsense.. it's people's life's at stake here.. where's judge president.?

[@Chibvunza]

Lol judge president and myself care about the killers of Senzo being defended by a misinformed public. The trial is close to an end Senzo's family need closure about what happened to their son and jo one will deny them that .6 life sentences loading

[@TheLan70]

Judge knowing all those rules of courtesy is always disregarding Mshololo… when do they apply?

[@Adjudicator246]

Mshololo draws the roth of the judge voluntarily! She she is normally out of order, and the judge is forced to correct her.

[@dukemasengana]

Believe Adv Mnisi when he says that the if the state recalled colonel Steyn it will be hurt and suffer an embarrassment. It's happening, and Judge is trying invain to minimise the damage and the glaring embarrassment. More hailstones!!!! More thunder!!!! More lightning!!! More mvula, munisi wa mvula!!! 🇿🇦🤣🔥🔥🔥

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

Which embarrassment are you referring to except that Mnisi is embarrassing himself? Steyn was not called for this two hours nonsensical issue.

[@ConnieMorake]

​@@walterndlovu-f2f tshisa Mnisi tshisa 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Wele1012]

@@ConnieMoraketshisa nothing cz he hasn’t even brought tangible evidence that accused never called Kelly

[@MarthaMokoena-q8n]

Ratha he is lies witness and state rescued stupid high court drama we ask justice for Meiwas family

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

@@MarthaMokoena-q8n Get your grammar in order before making a comment. I cannot comprehend what you wrote.

[@dumisanimchunu600]

Senzo family must pray harder, Uma kuzolunga kuqala ngokuba mnyama🙏🙏🙏

[@tiyaninkondo486]

@dumisanimchunu600 Truth will prevail in Jesus name Amen! We are praying with the Meyiwas.

[@Chibvunza]

Sekuyakhanya ngisho nakuleslima uSifiso Meyiwa that was protecting these guys uzothulele manje uyabona ukuth umfowabo bekajola nani😈.Allegedly

[@tshireletsomofolo26]

Who is the judge here or who is the witness???? I don't understand south africa is a movie

[@andilemlungisi]

Worse Judge ever...

[@siphonengu5436]

Defense ask Steyn to provide written rule on the 2 hour adjustment. It should be an official document. One will be surprised it only applies to international downloads

[@nobuhlemathenjwa71]

Well done Mnisi reminding the Judge of what he always says when he's trying to rescue the witness now his words comes back to bite him

[@MncedisiMaseko]

To be honest the judge has ran out of ideas bagwebeni but sibonile there's no fairness

[@nonikomaluleks317]

😢😢mfethu

[@Chibvunza]

As the court pleases .Mabagwetshwe angith babulele futh bathanda imali

[@njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188]

This guy is a lier but the judge is protecting him by all means

[@CliffordKgosi]

Ok former judge.

[@ivyMabasa-k7b]

He's a liar indeed, imagine yesterday telling the court that rebooting a phone and factory setting is the same thing! He think we are all domkops

[@DimphoK]

He is the liar lo uSteyn

[@lungelomnguni2870]

😂😂😂😂This judge is not fair at all🤞🤞😂😂 he saying steyn compile this steyn saying no IA m printed it😂😂

[@wandisilekajolinkomomphank5333]

We ended up not following the cross examination of Mnisi because this madala is interrupting everytime

[@siphonengu5436]

He saw the mistake that was made and wants the state to fix it . He didn't want Mnisi to continue coz it will be on record

[@Wele1012]

Because Mnisi was talking rubbish

[@siphonengu5436]

@@Wele1012 H was on track.

[@Adjudicator246]

Mnisi was not able to prove any of his allegations. So there was nothing to follow

[@siphonengu5436]

@@Adjudicator246 how could he do that because the judge interfered and spoke endlessly

[@NzamaAmos]

"You already paint me black"😅

[@Adjudicator246]

The judge never stated that information from other experts can not be utilized by a different expert. Rather, the judge indicated that the defence should not compel one expert to criticize another expert in areas outside their own expertise.

[@denisemorake7559]

This judge is exposing himself to the world one thing for sure

[@Chibvunza]

He is exposing himself as being the greatest 🫡🫡🫡🫡.He will leave no loopholes that the fraud and fabrication allegations of all witnesses and an independent body such as vodacom all this just to defend 5 criminals .Allegedly

[@naledisenne6306]

Mnissiii❤❤❤❤❤❤u are the bomb

[@dukemasengana]

Adv Mnisi discarded everything said by the judge, and relentlessly hit with the same ferocity which the court cautioned against. 🇿🇦🤣🤣

[@Adjudicator246]

Sure, at the expense of not serving his client effectively.

[@Chibvunza]

Mnisi is stalling phela after the ballistic cros examination this case is over they are hoping to get another recess before the state closes its case .Allegedly

[@siphonengu5436]

@Chibvunza You are confused who is stalling here. It was clear the judge didn't want Mnisi to continue with that line questioning so he created chaos by deliberately misunderstanding Mnisi. Mnisi was comparing 2 documents. At least they got to be given the pdf document from Pinky.

[@Chibvunza]

@siphonengu5436 for 2 days Mnisi says you forgot the 2 hours 🤣🤣🤣🤣.You can correct me if that's not what he's been saying for 2 days

[@Adjudicator246]

@siphonengu5436 Mnisi tried to falsely state that the two documents were fake. The judge proved him wrong by requesting that the Vodacom document be shown on screen. Mnisi backed off and changed topics. Mnisi has no game plan apart from grandstanding.

[@ndumisosibisi71]

The judge is forever protecting the state.

[@Chibvunza]

Evidence says he should sentence them now ,but because they have rights to defend their arrest that's what they are doing but deep down the defence has changed versions 5 times I forsee a guilt conviction. Allegedly

[@RanjiniThukulukanam]

This judge is too smart..please give credit were it's due..

[@Mulilo24]

If there is no cooking why is Stien need to print document at home , why not do it live and direct from the court and show as how I come up with that document , 😢😢😢 , the cooking is too much and the judge is party of the cooking

[@madimkhonzeseemela1841]

So how do they do their work now if the judge is doing this

[@tsitsikanyai6335]

That's why he is requesting the document to be zoomed

[@ThembaMthimbana-m1u]

This guy is a lier and the judge is laughing and protecting him he says the printer made mistake but it was him using the printer or he there in the pocket to lie allegedly 🖤🙏🖤🌍

[@siphonengu5436]

Honestly that is ridiculous 😂😂😂

[@Wele1012]

@@siphonengu5436what is ridiculous? Mnisi? Yes he is 💯 %

[@siphonengu5436]

​@@Wele1012 The judge' s behavior

[@Chibvunza]

Judge is a genius he will put Steyns document and pinky's and say point out the difference .that's when the defence will bend down on their knees😂😂😂

[@siphonengu5436]

@Chibvunza Uyagula wena. They did compare them and they found discrepancy, which they are trying to clarify by lying. Mnisi was comparing the difference in triple K5 and triple K5C . Triple K5 had 1 call but triple K5C had 3 calls the emphasis was on the towers that were different

[@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682]

Le 78 le mesa this case and what annoys me is that jp o didmetse fela this is bs🚮what a disgrace siiiis

[@ivyMabasa-k7b]

Maybe the so called JP is also in on this shenanigans, otherswise why would this judge be comfortable doing this circus arrogantly so.

[@nonikomaluleks317]

​@@ivyMabasa-k7bmaybe

[@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682]

@@ivyMabasa-k7b please re-write your statement and write without 'maybe' haha coz its crystal clear

[@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682]

@@nonikomaluleks317 not 'maybe' please haha ke nnete

[@siphonengu5436]

@ivyMabasa-k7b Sometimes you allow people to show their true colors before you act . If you rush people might not show their true self. Inhlwa ayibanjwa ngekhanda isaphuma.

[@thatseth]

The defence should ask Moshwana to format the phone again and redownload the calls again “in court/real time”… I bet he won’t get what’s being presented as evidence today.

[@Chibvunza]

It still won't change .The defence wasted money on their own expert only for the expert to come back and tell them that that's the gun that killed senzo 😂😂.How many times has the defence been caught lying ?state is saying one thing

[@thatseth]

@@Chibvunza ok

[@naledisenne6306]

Adv Mnisi u are brilliant ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@KennyMulaudzi]

As long as the defence is not understanding how it works when Steyn explains is useless to cross examine

[@siphonengu5436]

They should ask for the written official rule on the +2 rule

[@bonganidube429]

So you mean all these 5 lawyers they're not aware about that ummm then it's bad hle

[@Chibvunza]

​@@siphonengu5436the software used by the SAPS uses a different time zone so to make it to our time zone 2hrs must be added and 7 hours must be added to convert it to Chinese time

[@molebatsimpshane5148]

It's not about the understanding of the 2hr rule it's about the convenience of forgetting to include it and now all of a sudden remembering that it was supposed to be included after being recalled to clarify. The state did not think the defense would notice some discrepancies including the witness and now that the cat is out the bag, now the state wants the witness to be the lamb to the slaughter.

[@zifikilembabane4104]

Pinky must come and clear the name of Vodacom.

[@nonikomaluleks317]

💯

[@Chibvunza]

It's always been clear and there's no human intervention in the data of Vodacom. He will show the call on the 15 October 2014 but still nizomphikisa

[@MoeketsiMopa-bv3em]

Ratha testifying on behalf of Styn, I am no law expect but this is irregular

[@thandazanimadonda3891]

Baloyi is right this time he did mention the 2hrs. Mnisi to me have been singing a song but nothing is concreate he is out. He's supposed to make staine proove that a call was not made. Please stick on that Mr Mnisi

[@Adjudicator246]

Mnisi was not able to disprove any of the issues that he claimed Steyn lied about. Mnisi had to retreat in each and every legal point.

[@Chibvunza]

He is buying time as he knows that the ballistic witness is the one who will break their evidence. So now he's pushing time for the state not to conclude their case before the next recess

[@molebatsimpshane5148]

​@@Adjudicator246which legal points????

[@Adjudicator246]

@@molebatsimpshane5148 exactly! He scored no legal point.

[@Adjudicator246]

Mnisi may be risking his case and potentially failing his client by showboating. What legal points did Mnisi address today? He was unable to prove that Steyn lied, that Steyn had not mentioned the two-hour calculation last year, nor that the call from Kelly to the accused did not occur.

[@TheBlackInsider27]

This has nothing to do with Mnisi's client. Let him showboat!

[@Adjudicator246]

@@TheBlackInsider27 A non-performing defence attorney has everything to do with his client.

[@molebatsimpshane5148]

Which legal points was he supposed to address?

[@Adjudicator246]

@molebatsimpshane5148 who is that question to be directed to? I have clearly stated what he could not prove or address.

[@Adjudicator246]

In court, individuals could be addressed by their surname. It is more respectful to use the appropriate title for those of higher rank or qualification. Referring to someone by their first name can be seen as impolite and disrespectful. Hence, the judge did not act inappropriately when he sometimes called some people by their surname.

[@njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188]

What difficult with an expect who once worked on something to do it instantly, why always give him homework to go and fabricate

[@Chibvunza]

Bese I court iphuma kodwa ksasa idefence iyoba naked ayikho lento abayiphikayo+ Steyn doesn't have all the files on his new laptop as he had to hand over his work computer in November 2023 when he retired

[@Tyme-hy4wv]

​​@@Chibvunzaam definitely sure that you are Baloyi the way you defend Ratha n tarnish Mnisi n the rest of the defense

[@Chibvunza]

@@Tyme-hy4wv lol Baloyi is in court right now.I am just a citizen who will stand against 80% of the mislead people that spends time on twitter reading conspiracy theories instead of facts even if it's 100 against one I will not stop.I won't defend criminals

[@GordonGordons]

Imagine from judge to state witness uuusshh South Africa is comedy of a joke banana disgrace republic

[@dumisanimchunu600]

I'm very confused about this judge, he act as witness now😳😳

[@godfreymoeng7679]

This courtroom is a joke. I cant believe that the Judge President is allowing all this madness. Ratha ke disgrace

[@dukemasengana]

This hostile is not helping the court in any way, but it's really messing up the state 's case. The only consolation to the state is that Baloi and Sibanda have found their scapegoat to shift blames to. It's really a shame to see what Baloi is doing, and judge is allowing Steyn to be the sacrificial lamb. Ndi khakhathi, ho vhifha gombsmeni. 🇿🇦

[@Chibvunza]

What's special about them? Why didn't they frame Zamokuhle Mbatha ? Mncube was described by eye witnesses running away from the scene having dreadlocks,gold tooth,big eyes ,beige clothing and had a 9mm in his hand .Is that a coincidence?his gun called killer machine matches the gun that killed senzo .Why would they lie about not knowing each other ?what happened to Ntanzi's story paying lobola in Kwanongoma?what makes you believe that these guys are innocent?

[@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637]

​@@ChibvunzaYou don't know anything wena you're busy spouting rhetoric in this thread, I don't even think you watch the full proceedings, you're one of those who'd watch a clip and think they know what really transpired in court.

[@Chibvunza]

​@@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637​@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637 please stay until the end I want to see how far you'd go arguing that these criminals are innocent. I watch proceedings with understanding and you can correct me if I am wrong for 2days Mnisi was asking about the 2 hours that Steyn forgot over and over again same question adjournment to to listen to the records if he mentioned the 2 hours 😂😂😂

[@sefudimeshack5946]

To be honest this 5 presiding officer's they are facing a very difficult situation in this court in defence of this 5 accused and they still standing.you guys deserve a golden buzzzzz

[@njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188]

What actually changes these times?

[@SINDIMAHLALELA]

In order to favor the state

[@Chibvunza]

​@@SINDIMAHLALELAlol no the software used to download phone is using a different time zone .So +2hours must be added to that time in other ti br accurate with SA time and +7hrs from SA time if you want to convert it to Chinese time

[@JuanClaase]

Court Rules.. Long Over Due..

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

to prove it. Did Kelly Khumalo said that she indeed called the number NO did Kelly Khumalo said that she was on her way from Kimberly NO because she hasn't come to testify.

[@madimkhonzeseemela1841]

Yooo ayibuhlungu imali Uma sowuyidlile because you need to render the services,, tjoooo Ratha uzofa yintliziyo

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

Do you have proof?

[@TheLan70]

Very true

[@magamanevincent6788]

This judge is so biased and intimidating the advocates... And I have noticed that he already took a decision

[@tshireletsomofolo26]

Ratha things he is a celebrity because we are mentioning his name everyday he doesn't know our pray in our hearts

[@king7324]

Ratha is trying to be very smart but the gentleman knows what's happening at the constitutional court🤣🤣🤣... Liyoze libole elicala shem

[@reubenmketwa2076]

Ratha is a disgrace Fullstop.5 Fingers are actually pointing at him and he doesn't even notice that he is on international television! If Ramaphosa is not ashamed by this case and remove this retired judge then at least he must dissuade himself from this nonsense. All 5 Advocates are fully qualified and capable and he treats them like Metrics? Only few weeks ago he had to come and apologise on his comments about black Lawyers, now he is at it again, protecting clear corruption.

[@johnngcongo7557]

All the judgement done with this Rhatha is not right i am crying for the innocent people 😢

[@denisemorake7559]

So is allowed to laugh so loud when the court is bizi

[@carthagemodisane8782]

Accused is not to be addressed as accused 😞

[@Kingdaizel]

This trial is so unfair,no justice will be served here

[@selvannaidoo4931]

RATHA BE THE EXAMPLE. DONT SET EXAMPLES

[@Mulilo24]

Judge Ratha took over Mnisi's cross examination

[@lungelomnguni2870]

😂😂😂Court have 1 version of steyn aybandla in south africa we have Miki mouse judges shame😂

[@josephtumelomolehe7216]

The judge really need to be dealt with

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

Every witness be experts and otherwise, they were called to testify on behalf of what they said or has been said about them or the work, they have finished to the court. Now WHY it's different when it comes to Kelly Khumalo, can't she be called to testify herself like any other witnesses.

[@NtombikayiseDanisa]

There is no dispute that Kelly Kumali knew accused no5 as i understand it, also they were calling each other two times. The difference is the time. So the factor is the time that those calls were made. Basicallt the technicalities is what is used by the defense lawyers, so the judge noted that sometime ago that their defense relies on the mistakes done by the other party. But now that it was established that Kelly and acc5 knew each other and they were in the area of Kellys home when our hero was gunned down, sekusele kancane ipuzzle idibane

[@Confused-Lost]

Which network 205 registered those calls. Calls are made through radio waves transmissions which uses network from service providers why those two calls used invisible network

[@MrMsindo1]

This judge is acting like the state prosecutors and witness at the same time. I wonder if the defence is trying to collect more evidence of his bias or what. I find his attitude disgusting.

[@dukemasengana]

"The Mandela way", this judge is a circus. He is the chief prosecutor now 🤣🤣😥

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

Is it possible for time to go on Thursday, meanwhile we are in the meeting on Wednesday 😮😮 wow 😲😲 wow 😳😳 people kudlalwa ngathi la

[@JuanClaase]

Order In Courtroom...

[@lebokhaphela2332]

But why is the judge interrupting Adv Mnisi?

[@lwandilemfeka3804]

This case will mess with your head if you have already taken a side, even if a person who you clearly do not like says something that makes sense, you will go against it... i.e: people once said Gininda is protecting Kelly. Now the evidence led by Gininda and other evidence proves otherwise, people started looking for other loopholes.

[@nonikomaluleks317]

Can judge Ratha Van Rensburg sentence these guys already.

[@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv]

They are many black ppl who speaks Afrikaans. situated in North west, the whole of Northern Cape, Part of Gauteng Tansvaal., 70% of them in the Free state. So does this means those Africans are Van Der doen or Van Der Envelope ?

[@TheLan70]

Steyn is heavily protected

[@Adjudicator246]

How?

[@Chibvunza]

Lol how do you know😂😂😂

[@khanyilekhanyile436]

​@@Adjudicator246longwe twala usushintshe igama

[@abeaaphane6411]

Coloniality + Ageism

[@stylesving2245]

Now I believe justice doesn't exist in S. A

[@trustyguriras9607]

But in actual fact, steyn wasn't call back to correct and rectify but just to came and explained , why this evidence was uttered and tampered with.

[@JuanClaase]

Tell Them Judge... I do Samething in Court❤

[@ConnieMorake]

😂😂😂😂

[@kingphoka-uf5tk]

Which court "the one in Soweto shebeen"😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheBlackInsider27]

Today was the judge's day. He was very active!

[@dukemasengana]

It's raining... Make it rain. 🇿🇦🔥🤣

[@sbukevin]

So the call Kelly received changed from 128 sec duration to 98sec or I am missing something,,

[@dukemasengana]

If Ratha says it the matter will go to the constitutional Court, so the verdict of guilty is out already? Jaa, Judge, ni a vhavha 🇿🇦🤣

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

I will forgive you because English is not our friend😂😂😂

[@dukemasengana]

@@walterndlovu-f2f But he did touch on "when the case goes to appeal court...", bro. He is on record for saying that, but I understand that English is not your home language, so I will be generous enough to forgiv

[@walterndlovu-f2f]

@@dukemasengana He never said this case was going to the constitutional court. Listening with comprehension or to understand is important.

[@TheLan70]

How much should one pay in SA to have a wrong person sentenced?

[@thandazanimadonda3891]

What app was used to make a call he need to mention it otherwise there is nothing proven

[@NeoK489]

Steyn is throwing Ratha under the bus😂

[@moshabanechristopher7665]

This witness is evasive and the court is really allowing it

[@davidnkopane5811]

Ratha is out of order this madala must go on pension

[@ThembinkosiMthethwa-m8s]

Wemsunu we judge yenja what nation u are

[@ThapeloKok]

Ratha doesn't want adv Mnisi to continue 😮😢

[@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755]

Ratha is arrogant ubuJaji ubuthathele phezulu

[@teyaz]

This judge once SPOKE SOMETHING ABOUT TAVERNS😮😅😅😅

[@nomfunekobatala7920]

I think that Sowetho Tavern rule is in that book he is the one who disn't respect the advocates even throwing the hands and want them to be scared of him when they cross examined the witness he even want them not to question them but he brought the lies on top of another lies

[@nomfunekobatala7920]

Didn't respect

[@Jack-bl3ld]

But this steyn is no more kenel he resign and when he can die now in court he will never be buried as a high profile even the flags of the county will never go down

[@sarahvilane3789]

They can't make me to hate Ratha

[@sandileknowledge-jg3vb]

😅😅kuyashisa...kushubile .ku rough...Mnisi is cooking...but this case won't end anytime soon...😢😢

[@thapelohonest7019]

It seems like this case is bigger than we think

[@HahhBsbsb]

It looks like the court understand the state