Poseidon the MOST Godly of them All (Record of Ragnarok Analysis)

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@queensdontbow
@queensdontbow 8 ай бұрын
One thing I love is that Hades represents everything Poseidon believes a god should be, but he actually does it the right way. Poseidon is cold, Hades is not. Poseidon fights out of egotism, Hades fights out of love. Poseidon is dreaded, Hades is respected. He has all the qualities the most godly of gods believes makes one divine - a god does not team up, a god does not rely, a god does not scheme - not because he believes in his own superiority, but because of his duty as the eldest. Hades isn't arrogant, he's just an older brother. If Poseidon is the gods at their worst - what they are - then Hades is them at their best - what they should be.
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Exactly couldn’t say it better myself, I can’t wait to get round to talking about Hades in his own video
@khristianhall2646
@khristianhall2646 8 ай бұрын
@@SephTheSin The Humans aren't the Heroes, the Gods aren't villains. there are no true winners at all
@cmdAHYT
@cmdAHYT 27 күн бұрын
​​@@khristianhall2646 honestly yes, exactly my impression. in terms of raw symbolism, the big point of RoR is that humanity, despite all its wickedness, is still beautiful and worthy. regardless of whether the gods represent our self-destructive tendencies (the very things they hate us for) or those of us who rule with inhuman egos, were all just meat with opinions. sadly, some of us are cruel enough to want to force our opinions onto all others.
@korruptor9777
@korruptor9777 8 ай бұрын
Poseidon does have a facade. It’s the one that’s always on display. His true self is revealed when he stabs sasaki and in his final moments of life.
@justinweber4977
@justinweber4977 7 ай бұрын
I like to think Poseidon calling Kojiro "a piece of shit" as he died wasn't just a last display of arrogant contempt, but him cursing out Sasaki. It was as close as he would allow himself to a breakdown over the fact his entire worldview wasn't just challenges, but broken.
@nova7931
@nova7931 8 ай бұрын
So 2 things I like to bring up about his death 1. Poseidon body ends up in nearly the same way as adamas, upper torso detached from the rest of his body 2. He accidentally took the advice from one of the guy in the dojo kojiro trained in “if you lose your blade use your hand” grabs to broken off head of his trident “ if you lose your hands use your mouth” grabs the trident head with his teeth so in death he accidentally took someone else’s advice making even more of a joke
@thetrueyuu8474
@thetrueyuu8474 6 ай бұрын
Are you saying he was a joke or?
@livys788
@livys788 5 ай бұрын
But the "advice" was said in sasakis ' flashback . Poseidon wasn't present there, so it's more of desperation or his personality shining through.
@TackDanzi
@TackDanzi 8 ай бұрын
I've always seen Poseidon as flat, but this analysis helped me see he's more complex than I expected, especially foiled with Kojiro.
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Glad I could shed some more light on him,
@Max-pr4iq
@Max-pr4iq 8 ай бұрын
Best theory I've heared about why Poseidon left Adamas alive was because he knew Hades would never forgive him if he actually killed him
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
That’s probably the best argument you can give I must agree,
@gohanblack5545
@gohanblack5545 8 ай бұрын
This theory makes sense especially since Hades and Zeus are very well respected by Pos
@keelanrichardson820
@keelanrichardson820 7 ай бұрын
I like this one right here
@emuongus
@emuongus 6 ай бұрын
in a recent extra chapter, this is actually somewhat confirmed! posiedon mentions hades would be sad if adamas died
@sharmin181
@sharmin181 4 ай бұрын
I love when Sasaki goes to help buda and saids: Poseidon will never do this, like he was a ashole but he had dignity, also how all the fighters live in the heart of the winners
@justinweber4977
@justinweber4977 7 ай бұрын
Ironic, the god of the ever shifting oceans was completely stagnant.
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 7 ай бұрын
Excellent observation, may be another reason why he doesn’t use any watery powers
@JP-um1nj
@JP-um1nj 18 күн бұрын
​@@SephTheSinIkr! That was what surprised me the most. No cyclone, no Kraken (sic) no tsunami (given that his opponent is Japanese) Hulk could call him a puny god lel.
@SmallOneEyedKing
@SmallOneEyedKing 8 ай бұрын
Egoistic is the word that describes poseidon.
@yuwenchen5962
@yuwenchen5962 8 ай бұрын
Another words that can describe Poseidon is sin of pride.
@zackzxx
@zackzxx 6 ай бұрын
and narcissism
@ashergs1237
@ashergs1237 2 ай бұрын
15:05 “He may be an asshole, but he’s an asshole with all his heart” That has to be one of my favorite lines I’ve heard in a long time. That line alone earned a sub.
@pathalenvivaldi7811
@pathalenvivaldi7811 8 ай бұрын
For Adamas, I always felt Poseidon spared him unintentionally. No, rather, subconsciously. He deep down does have some kind of brotherly care for them, even if minor, but he himself, till the end couldn't comprehend that, and that. If anything, he probably justified it in his head as testing Adamas, yes, but inwardly had humanity he suppressed till the end, which is tragic. Alternatively, it can be more simple, as in he actually failed to make it lethal enough, not giving a single, 'perfect' god killing blow, and it being a sign of how he isn't perfect for everyone has their own view of perfection, making perfection meaningless, and it being shown in his less than perfect kill strike. But I think it's the former and not this cause we already saw he's not perfect in his fight with Sasaki, and this moment came long after.
@MightyBryanGaming
@MightyBryanGaming 8 ай бұрын
He has a God complex. What do you expect 😂
@tobluetoblack
@tobluetoblack 8 ай бұрын
to understand and achieve success is to understand and achieve failure. Which is why, as you said in a previous video, Poseidon had to be the first God to lose. I think the most interesting thing about Poseidon is how he looks down upon virtually everyone save for someone like Hades because I think Poseidon respects Gods who truly embody their role as a God and also, in family. out of all the Gods, it was Hades whom Poseidon referred to as brother and Hades whom Poseidon wished to make sure was alive and even chastised for his reckless behavior. It's also why he had no respect for Adamas. I would *love* to see how Poseidon would have reacted to Hades' death. It's always interesting to ponder and more interesting to always see more depth to characters after they had died.
@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness
@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness 8 ай бұрын
I had wanted to hear what you think about Poseidon fitting Qin’s definition of a king, since Hades believed he was the best god to match that description.
@icomirkata
@icomirkata 8 ай бұрын
4:01 😊 Is he the strongest because he's Zeus? Or is he Zeus because he's the strongest?
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Always bet on Zeus the one who left it all behind with his overwhelming intensity
@austinharris9290
@austinharris9290 8 ай бұрын
The old saying pride comes before the fall
@Jerrremy
@Jerrremy 8 ай бұрын
Loving this series dude. They make my week 🙏🙏
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
And comments like these make my week, thanks for watching
@Kajnake
@Kajnake 2 ай бұрын
I love it so much that record doesnt rely on the powers associated with a god, for the most part its straight hands, which somehow gives each strike more personality
@press8704
@press8704 8 ай бұрын
Loved this analysis. Subscribed, and I’ll be watching your other videos, too!
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@TannerThePuppyGamer
@TannerThePuppyGamer 7 ай бұрын
I think one of two of the reasons why adamas lived is either poseidon didn't put enough power into the attack or wanted to make him suffer for a bit before he died
@sammyjones2081
@sammyjones2081 8 ай бұрын
As to why Poseidon spared Adamas even when looking him in the eye with intent to kill, like he looked as Sasaki wanting to kill him, is probably for a similar reason Seph mentioned the difference in attitude Poseidon had towards Adamas and Hades. One, Sasaki, was his opponent in a fight to the death. The other, Adamas, was Poseidon's brother. Poseidon may not have liked it, but it was something he couldn't ignore, either willingly or instinctively.
@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 8 ай бұрын
Poseidon wakes up everyday with fresh hatred
@sycros1866
@sycros1866 8 ай бұрын
This is just my opinion but I don't really think it's given enough Justice just how much the two fighters contrast each other. I mean think about it Poseidon is the most godly of gods because he is completely and utterly perfect just how a god should be. It is quite literally the defining characteristic of their entire race is that they are perfect. Where is by contrast Sasaki is the most human of all the humans, because if you really think about it what happens within each and every one of our human lives? We struggle, we suffer, we have a hard time and ultimately we fail, we fail again and again so many times. But even still we keep getting up and moving on forward, we keep trying to have fun and satisfaction in our lives despite all those failures and all the setbacks. That is exactly what happens to sasaki despite every setback every hard time he keeps getting up and moving forward. So in my opinion he's the most human of humans. And god damn is it awesome that he wins.
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Dw Ill be going into this a lot more in the Sasaki vid just thought I’d make more sense to really dive into that once I’ve already talked about both fighters, And yes Sasaki is one of the best characters in the series but I don’t think we’d like him half as much without Poseidon their to foil him,
@sycros1866
@sycros1866 8 ай бұрын
@@SephTheSin yeah that's fair enough. Looking forward to it tbh. I like ur vids lol.
@orpheemulemo8053
@orpheemulemo8053 8 ай бұрын
So if poseidon took sasaki seriously he would win also I have a theory I want you to cover that the Gods Greek Gods were so arrogant they didn't use there devine abilities except there physicals shiva only using his fighting style or his triton ,Zeus not using his thunder bolts and Poseidon not using his true triton and only using the average one with no power as he never needed to try after the Titanomachy and Hades not using his helm of darkness yet any God like thor who tries while having his Devine weapon examples like thor and Apollo will win as Hercules doesn't count being a demi God
@RedLights9000-f3l
@RedLights9000-f3l 8 ай бұрын
I don't think they're completely similar to the myth because Zeus have more than just thunderbolts and Poseidon's broken trident was given to hades so it's probably the real trident Also hades never spoke of his helmet I don't think he even have it in the show
@ironicweeb4111
@ironicweeb4111 8 ай бұрын
Pretty much all the gods who walked into arena didn’t take their fights seriously and didn’t go all out with the exception of a few gods (Buddha, Zerofuku, and Hades) Zeus broke down in song and dance the moment he walked in.
@orpheemulemo8053
@orpheemulemo8053 8 ай бұрын
@@RedLights9000-f3l The reason I say this is because Zeus menshioned having divine weapons and there titles give it away that they didn't show more like poseidons Triton is the only God weapon weaves seen break and not dissolve even whatever hades was carrying it also makes sense for poseidons character having anything to up his strength while already being perfect is ridiculous
@mohammadsafian9824
@mohammadsafian9824 Ай бұрын
Just a nerf: the gods could literally go on a true form if they wanted
@j.p.8195
@j.p.8195 8 ай бұрын
I personally don't feel like Poseidon had hydrokinesis, at least the usual way. It is said that the water parts in fear, iirc, from Poseidon's sight. Even nature itself should bow to a God's will. I believe it was meant to be what humans have believed about Gods all throughout history and to demonstrate the point of Poseidon. Not very important to the video but just didn't feel like he purposely didn't use hydrokinesis
@solaire07
@solaire07 8 ай бұрын
I like apollo and hercules as well as bhudda
@yuro-h7m
@yuro-h7m 2 ай бұрын
If a god has a god complex, is it really a complex at all? Anyway, thanks for making a video about my favorite RoR character. I really enjoyed your analysis!
@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 8 ай бұрын
4:12 apollo realy does take after zeus
@IsaacClodfelter
@IsaacClodfelter 3 ай бұрын
The greek god brothers really show there is no difference between how humanity acts and how the gods act. Just a lot of variance in individuals.
@Observare22
@Observare22 6 ай бұрын
Hey I know I'm quite late in seeing this video but i just need to say great analysis and I hope you keep making this type of videos. It is quite funny, Hades was one or rather the only one that measured up to his idea of what a God is and yet he never really understood his brother. They fight so similarly, their habits are the same (whistling), their clothes and their looks to and yet they are so different. Poseidon fought to show his superiority as a God, while Hades fought for his brothers. Poseidon fought for his Pride, while Hades fought for Love (I think so). Poseidon insulted his opponent, while Hades respected his. Poseidon was still in denial and was petty at the end, while Hades accepted his defeat in grace. These are interesting characters indeed I wonder if Poseidon actually understood why Hades fought and carried himself in that why would he still respect him, change or rather he will be resentful and more bitter. Please share what you think everyone. Thank you
@censari544
@censari544 6 ай бұрын
The sea is the law of existence. I think Zeus ages because of his relation cronos maybe? Gfoc?
@SmallOneEyedKing
@SmallOneEyedKing 8 ай бұрын
I love Hades, my favourite and best character yet. His responsible actions made me like him. Yes, Poseidon is an asshole of a brother, but he is still my sibling, and taking revenge is the right thing to do. That is what I felt after his flashback, and I grew to love him more for his relationship to Beelzebub. The fact of Hades Character is he is... someone who will support others with no favours in return a True leader role.
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Hades is such a great character, cannot wait to cover him in his own video, the king and brother who gave everything for others but because of it could never grasp victory for his own sake, his loss is so tragic but also one of the best written defeats in the series, man is such a chad
@SmallOneEyedKing
@SmallOneEyedKing 8 ай бұрын
@SephTheSin O even bet he Won because of all the circumstances that had happened in the battlefield
@khristianhall2646
@khristianhall2646 8 ай бұрын
@@SephTheSin Still I am really scared actually because its one that shows me the truth of Ragnarok
@frostleaf7833
@frostleaf7833 8 ай бұрын
sorry for the offtopic question but since you already do videos on baki and ror will you ever check out/do videos on kengan ashura and omega?
@unknownstranger3646
@unknownstranger3646 8 ай бұрын
He's like heimdall from god of war ragnarok. Which is why I don't understand why fans like this version of poseidon despite his attitude while fans hate gow ragnarok heimdall because of it. They are almost the same person. And just so you know, i liked gow ragnarok heimdall. Sure, he was a jerk, but there were some parts of his character that i like.
@ironicweeb4111
@ironicweeb4111 8 ай бұрын
Poseidon on this manga series already knows he’s a god so he doesn’t boast about it cause a god wouldn’t call out the obvious. Heimdall in GOW doesn’t shut up when should, so despite both of them being similar in ideals in execution their both radically different
@Architectofawesome
@Architectofawesome Ай бұрын
Poseidon wasn't necessarily wrong yet he failed because of the content of his hearth.
@zackripely1166
@zackripely1166 8 ай бұрын
Are you gonna do a video on Buddha?
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
Yeah planning on doing a individual vid for every fighter in the series, making them in order do their fights though so gotta do Sasaki, Heracles, Jack, Shiva, Raiden and Zero first
@Im_gay-f4c
@Im_gay-f4c 6 ай бұрын
maybe- water, light control etc etc, is blocked from ragnarok? idfk
@EdogaMiyamoto-qg4bb
@EdogaMiyamoto-qg4bb 16 күн бұрын
Wait wait hold on a second I remember Poseidon saying gods fight alone they are perfect from the very beginning but dude fought together with his brothers and other gods in the giants invasion. He not only a self centered narcissist but also a hypocrite because even if he didn’t like it he still teamed up with other people
@khristianhall2646
@khristianhall2646 8 ай бұрын
Honestly it was a big surprise and just plain it of all things in the world. He was just too perfect and never had room to grow even though he did have more to improve himself at best. flaws of the gods, Strength of Humanity. Honestly you sure you can look at those, and see whose is better but none are better and all are great. Poseidon is not whom I think what makes a God as a God can anything different besides it, sure they follow perfection, but Poseidon is not the end all be all. Despite his views and despite his outlook. He had nothing but love and respect for Hades, his older brother whom which he never referred to. I think that this facade of his is a mask to hide something, the fear of accepting growth and the need to change. If Poseidon is one thing, its Stagnation. @SephTheSIN I have to wonder are you a supporter of Humanity or the Gods. Personally I have no side and see them are not worth supporting. but what about you
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 8 ай бұрын
If I had to say if I’m a supporter of one or the other I guess I’d have to humanity, I mean RoR is far from a morally grey story and it’s very clear the humans are ‘the good guys’ and the gods are ‘the bad guys’, and especially in the early parts of the story this is very clearly shown, I mean throughout R3 we are never shown a single thing to make us like Poseidon his flashback literally amounts to him murdering his brother, he’s written as this unlikable character on purpose because we are meant to hate his guts and be overjoyed and humanity’s first win, it’s actually quite clever to have humans vs gods as you don’t need to do much leg work on the authors side to set up who we should support as well it’s only natural we the readers will side with our own race against these assholes who want to wipe out humans, Poseidon being constantly labelled as the god of gods or the most godly of gods throughout R3 by the narrator, the other gods etc is because he is what the gods in story and us the reader are meant to perceive as the ideal god, as I said RoR ain’t very subtle with its messaging a lot of the time so when the story repeatedly calls him the god of gods is because that’s what we are meant to view him as, he is this big bad evil god that humanity must overcome to show the gods aren’t perfect, basically his defeat proves to the other gods who were constantly chanting GOG at him that what Posideon stood for their ideal image of a god is not perfect, he himself is not literally perfect but he is what the other gods viewed as perfect, he’s the ideal they all strived for, yes a god can be anything but that’s no how the gods operate, they all wanted to be like Poseidon because to the gods the most godly thing is overwhelming power, TLDR the humans have always been portrayed as the ‘good guys’ their morals have never been questioned in the story whereas the gods are constantly criticised and presented as ‘bad guys’, I ‘support’ humanity because the story is about humans defeating gods it’s not morally ambiguous or grey, it’s quite clear which side we should be rooting for hence why characters like Posidoen are given deaths to be celebrated by the reader whereas that’s not once ever happened to a human because they are who we are meant to be supporting, same as how in the MCU we may agree Thanos has some good points but at the end of the day he is still the ‘bad guy’ and we route for the avengers to win as they are the ‘good guys’
@khristianhall2646
@khristianhall2646 8 ай бұрын
@@SephTheSin Wow I have to thank you for writing this but in my personal opinion. I don't root for Humanity or the Gods. Because i know that deep down, that there is no reason because at the end of the day there is only one thing that truly matters. Personally I don't see Humans as the good guys and Gods as the bad guys because at they are all same and I see there has to come a time where a fist should either be raised or just put down as a result. I appreciate you doing these videos but I just like to add that Humanity needs a lesson of how they can improve so this never happens again.
@KlaySatoshi
@KlaySatoshi 6 ай бұрын
Im wondering why does Poseidon not look at people, like his eyes are like not eye contact with other another
@SephTheSin
@SephTheSin 6 ай бұрын
I'd say its because looking someone in the eye is acknowledging them as a person, most people to Posideon are of so little significance he doesn't even acknowledge their existence so why would he even bother looking in their direction, do you ever bother looking at the ants by your feet or the random grass and dirt around you, I feel its something like that, he is simply above them so they aren't even worhty of being in his eyeline
@Niebert
@Niebert 6 ай бұрын
The thing people seem to not understand is that only sasaki could have killed poseidon. He trained after death, got revolund and literally gained a godlike power capable of scanning the whole creation. Poseidon wasn't lucky ,nothing else
@chrisa.2323
@chrisa.2323 8 ай бұрын
To counter the power scalers I'd like to argue that Poseidon was the weakest God, in that the way he was written he would have never won a match in the tournament. Maybe Heracles also falls under that too. But that's what made Poseidon such a great character, boosting Sasaki and the series as a whole for embodying perfection and Gods, to then lose in the end.
@exit8062
@exit8062 6 ай бұрын
Poseidon never used anything but his swordsmanship/skill alone We see a glimpse of his power when he is entering Arena(water manip) And another moments include Sasaki annoying Poseidon therefore making him go serious for a single attack to prove his superiority and go thru Sasaki's prediction only flaw of Poseidon is his Arrogance which resulted in his death Full power Poseidon would be around top 8 of the strongest (5th or below but 8th or above)
@chrisa.2323
@chrisa.2323 6 ай бұрын
@@exit8062 If his arrogance directly led to Sasaki winning, then it would've led Jack or Leonidas to winning. He's still a god with far superior base stats obviously, but he's so personality diffed that I don't see him winning unless you go out of your way to ignore personality traits.
@exit8062
@exit8062 6 ай бұрын
@@chrisa.2323 i talk about sheer power scaling not including his arrogance, if he goes all out he is top tier
@chrisa.2323
@chrisa.2323 6 ай бұрын
@@exit8062 Then we're having different conversations here.
@guslopez8760
@guslopez8760 8 ай бұрын
First
@MidnightPhantom
@MidnightPhantom 8 ай бұрын
You aren't
@Krayioskkiiii
@Krayioskkiiii 5 ай бұрын
Nah id last
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