Septa Nation potpourri!! 9/29/22

[@davelowenstein73]

Finally learned the "mystery" of the hated Silverliner IV's! Thanks for another great video.

[@3985uprr]

You bet!

[@Razorgeist]

The Silverliner IVs have a certain charm to them. That being said I do enjoy your critique of their asthetics.

[@ironkeystone]

Great videos! Your comment at 19:38 is basically accurate. The Silverliner IV's were ordered before Septa took over operation of the regional rail. They were ordered in the Penn Central days. The thinking back then was that the center door would be added at a later date when stations were rebuilt with high platforms. Due to the never-ending funding issues, that rebuild never happened on a wide scale so the cars never received the center doors similar to the center doors on the Comets.

[@scottyerkes1867]

Love the potpourri!! Your stand up great. Loved those old PRR mp54s and the Reading Blueliners. Thanks Tim😀💚

[@3985uprr]

Looked like a beatnik

[@scottyerkes1867]

@@3985uprr I don't agree.

[@jay-z635]

Just love the one -liners , septa trains are full of comedy lol !

[@Westlander857]

Thanks for the history lesson on the Silverliners! I’ve been riding on those for literally all 27 years of my life, and I’ve always wondered why they’re stuck around for so long. They sure do accelerate fast and those oval windows are iconic. Regardless, I think replacements are due. More modern trains can accelerate even faster and have a more comfortable ride, I think. Like those Hyundai Rotem cars.

[@jstarASMR3103]

I’m definitely on one of those regional rail trains😂 I’m a temple student and I’m ALWAYS on there

[@JoeyLovesTrains]

I’m gonna say it again, love listening to your rants and stories about railroading and your knowledge about nearly any subject is always fascinating!!! And sorry to say, but I’m a cubs fan lol (i dong follow along in sports tho)

[@de-fault_de-fault]

I actually never realized the Silverliner IV's never had center doors (though given how few SEPTA stations have high platforms, I guess that makes sense). Because it looks so awkward, I always just assumed they were built with center doors and had them removed at some point, the same way NJT did when they de-powered the Arrow I's and plugged the center doorways to make them Comet Ib's (some of which are still running on the west coast in kind of a weird NJT tribute livery).

[@jbreezy101]

20:00 that's my favorite spot to sit on IVs. The railfan window is my go-to on the Vs

[@tony2.0bender]

Love the vid! The commentary really adds a lot. Thanks for sharing.

[@jay-z635]

Great video man, reminds me of when I was on the RailRoad !

[@Railoffroader2]

You were correct about how the tracks are numbered at Trenton. 5:58 Those platform signs depicting “Track 2” is just for the passengers, it is actually the High Track.

[@grantwareham946]

Tim, watching this again in August 2023, the "making it far in the playoffs" actually turned out to be *only* making it to the World Series!

[@3985uprr]

I don’t like to admit to mistakes, but I am glad I was wrong there.

[@MrCubsfan3]

@@3985uprr I gotta say - I miss the music accompanying the introduction a little!

[@frankgrimesification]

That's too funny----one guy working and five guys standing around watching him work. Where do I sign up?

[@nedeljkomrkic408]

Become a railroad worker, we need a sixth guy !!!

[@michlo3393]

they have a deep bench. The one guy works for 10 minutes then the next swaps out. :D

[@whitneybutler3694]

Watching this on 10-25/26-22. Phillies are National League Champions. I wonder if SEPTA and NJT will run World Series extras for the Phillies home games? Love your videos and narration. I was born and raised in Philly. I miss commuter trains and proper urban mass transit in the South Atlanta Metro. Thank you for your taste of home and my after work NYC jaunts on the NEC and riding the LIRR to Brentwood to see my then girlfriend.

[@njtrailfan4508]

Amazing catches

[@philocohen]

The silverliner iv mu cars were actually built with wabco aa2 horns. The only silverliner iv that still has a wabco aa2 is 372. 373 has a Leslie s2m.

[@3985uprr]

They should have kept them. Don’t care for the S2M’s.

[@jasoncrablephillytransitbo4633]

My Favorite Train Are The Sliverliner V's

[@jamallhayden2512]

Thank You

[@Railoffroader2]

Silverliner IV cars are full length. All Septa, NJT, Amtrak, MBTA, LIRR and MNRR etc passenger cars are 85’ in length. The Silverliner IV’s are essentially similar to older Silverliners & Arrows with exception of having the unused provision for center doors. Silverliner V’s look like a deformed reject version of MTA M-7’s. LoL

[@egbutler114]

Love the video and the narration. Not a fan of your critique of the Silverliner IV's. The horns use to be much louder and would vibrate your toes on the head end. The raised roof shroud houses the dynamic brake grides to dispense the tremendous heat generated by the braking. I think the Arrow III's look naked without the roof hump. Funny, NJT added AC traction and dynamic braking in a rebuild that place grids on the roof to dispense the heat. I loved running them.

[@3985uprr]

I just think the arrow three looks so much better looking and they sound good. I guess I’m just big on aesthetics. Bring back the Budds.

[@grahamsawyer831]

thank you once again RRHG from over the pond 🇬🇧! well filmed, great sound, and the commentary really is just right. here's a question for y'all: when will we see a restored GG1 tearing up the NEC? there must be a way.

[@3985uprr]

They had environmental issues with toxic leaks. Doubtful you will see it but who knows

[@3985uprr]

@Karl Fey it has to be compatible with the voltage. NJ voltage on NE corridor shud be good. We will see.

[@losh330]

Personally I love the look of the hump on top of the Silverliner IVs but I agree about the center false door. The cars look unfinished.

[@kytruong5314]

The Silverliner original built with center doors, but rarely used, these equipments are the same as Arrow 2 (NJT). The only differences, with additional dynamic brake, to dissipate heat, GE mounting those resistors on the roof. Other differences in the Silverliner and Arrow 2, in the late 80s, Arrow 3 went from DC motors to AC motors, using GTOs technology, NJT modified Arrow 2 propulsion by removing Ignitron tubes ( it weighted a more than 50 pounds) with SCRs from Arrow3. I believe NJT helped Septa change those tunes to SCR removed from Arrow 3.

[@jbreezy101]

10:04-10:14 septa used to have special cars to go to the airport and we're painted yellow.

[@3985uprr]

Silverliner III cars that were retired.

[@hoppfam6]

Thanks for the follow-up reporting on the Septa mishap earlier in the week. While the Silverliner V cars are much nicer overall, their wheels develop flat spots leading to a noisier ride than even the older Silverliner IV cars.

[@3985uprr]

That’s true

[@kevinhoward9593]

How is the rebuilding of Ardmore station coming along, anyone know?

[@3985uprr]

working on it. will be a while before the high platform is open

[@philocohen]

The silverliner iv has a top speed of 130 mph. The arrow iii has a top speed of 70 mph.

[@apr859]

Arrows have been good for 100mph for a while now

[@jkurtz601]

I wish LIRR had overhead power for trains We would have had a bigger selection of elect . trains and locomotives .

[@Railoffroader2]

Not necessarily. LIRR is pretty adamant about keeping their fleets to a minimum variety of cookie cutters.