Seraphon 5-0 List!!! Cavalry is So Good Right Now!

[@SolomonHelsing]

Thinking on the spell portal list, there could be a play to cast spell portal, get it set up near the reinforced aggradons that are raged up, cast run and charge on them from afar, so they can get that rage going into another unit further away again. Just another idea might've been there.

[@CalebHastings]

@@SolomonHelsing Good thinking!

[@gradybollas7873]

Good stuff sir

[@zexihuang5725]

My 4-1 list in Edmonton Wargame Open AOS, although we don't have a lot of players this time. Hualong Blessed 2000/2000 pts Seraphon | Shadowstrike Starhost Drops: 2 Spell Lore - Lore of Celestial Manipulation Manifestation Lore - Morbid Conjuration General's Regiment Slann Starmaster (280) • General Aggradon Lancers (440) • Reinforced Hunters of Huanchi with Dartpipes (80) Raptadon Hunters (130) Saurus Guard (240) • Reinforced Regiment 1 Skink Starseer (160) • Coatl Familiar • Beastmaster Raptadon Chargers (280) • Reinforced Raptadon Chargers (280) • Reinforced Ripperdactyl Riders (110) Faction Terrain Realmshaper Engine Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App App: 1.3.1 | Data: 167

[@CalebHastings]

@@zexihuang5725 VERY Nice!!

[@andystocking5316]

I've got to say it is pretty disheartening to see that all the best lists are using a ton of the new sculpts. I got into Seraphon last edition and loved monster-heavy lists. But to be competitive in this edition I would need to buy basically an entirely new army and that doesn't feel great.

[@alphabetbeer]

I miss monster mash lists so much. Not just because bringing 6 or so minis was easy to travel/play with. But because I got into Seraphon for the big fucking Dinos

[@CalebHastings]

Yeah, that's not fun. The army completely changed its identity from last edition (magic heavy castle army) to this edition (melee focused).

[@DannyWadeson]

Agreed. Also, Chargers are almost certainly going up in points given how much they're being spammed. And then where does that leave us? I use 10 in my lists atm, a balanced/mixed arms list - so my choices are buy 10 more (a lot of time and money) and then probably the list is unusable in 2 months time, or...not win very many games? In fairness, I'm doing well with my 6 Agga, 2x5 Chargers and 6 Krox list but yeah it would never go 4-1.

[@DustinDalziel777]

To be fair though, I think most monsters in nearly every faction are struggling right now. The 3" attack range is a huge buff for any infantry and cavalry fighting monsters that didn't exist in 3rd. I think they need to up the durability of many monsters across the board. Of course there are some exceptions, but I'm general I think monsters struggle in this edition.

[@Graaaal]

Look ma, that guy on KZbin has me in his video! 😂

[@CalebHastings]

Look ma, that guy who is good at Warhammer commented on my video!!

[@MrLaTots]

Wish GW put some kind of spam limitations. I'm sick of these lists. If I didn't have to spend 150 bucks every time I wanted to try a list, I may have a different perspective 🙃 Just sad to see so many amazing models staying on the shelf. I tried EOTG and the Astrolith this weekend. It was sickening...

[@gradybollas7873]

Try tabletop simulators. Get you access to all the model. Play with ppl and experiment

[@MrLaTots]

@gradybollas7873 yeah, I'm already doing that. But if I want to play a video game, I'd rather play a thousand other games. The real pleasure in Warhammer is to push real models on a table. And by the time you test a list on TTS, order, build, paint them, it has been amended, scrolls changed etc. And you're back to Step 1.

[@CalebHastings]

@@MrLaTots @MrLaTots It does tend to be a hobby that rewards the player that sits in one faction for a while. EVENTUALLY (on a long enough time line) most models end up being good at some point... ... Or they get Legend'ed.... Lol

[@MrLaTots]

@@CalebHastings 🥹

[@ephremhommeril3907]

Eotg looks good no ? The buff looks cool and it's not so expensive. Why did you felt it was bad ?

[@redlancer7263]

I just picked up the Seraphon Spearhead and it's my first foray into AoS from 40k/KT and I'm loving all the dino content! I have an idea for a list that I would love some feedback on! Oops All Skinks: 2000/2000 pts | Shadowstrike Starhost General's Regiment: Skink Starpriest, 4x Skinks (Reinforced) Auxiliary Units: 6x Skinks (Reinforced), 1x Skinks You get 210 skinks to throw at your opponent!

[@CalebHastings]

@@redlancer7263 haha, I too have thought about this before.... BUT... I think the big downfall is the short range of the Skinks. 12" range shooting is just too short. Theoretically the list could do 50+ damage per turn (vs a 4+ save) But it would have major problems getting 200+ models to within 12" of the enemy. And then if you ran up against a high armor save unit... Let's say SCE Reclusians with a 3+ armor save and a 5+ ward... If they use all out defense for +1 to save... Your 210 skinks would (mathematical average) only do about 11 damage. Ouch. Our skink hordes were incredible an edition or two ago... But they suffer from their short range and lack of buffs at the moment.

[@CalebHastings]

BUT... Sometimes just rolling 400+ dice at an opponent will beat them outright (either in the actual game, or just mentally... Lol)

[@redlancer7263]

@@CalebHastings have you done a video about starting a Dino army in 4th edition? Possibly building off of a Spearhead box or off of 2 spearhead boxes? I'd certainly watch

[@CalebHastings]

@@redlancer7263 Nope. Not yet! Good idea!

[@BreakingTad]

I 5-0d a smaller 20 person GT mid October.

[@BreakingTad]

Bay Area Moulder Mash GT (No Painting Req'd!) Tad Baten You gotta pay the troll Toll 2000/2000 pts ----- Grand Alliance Order | Seraphon | Sunclaw Starhost Drops: 3 Spell Lore - Lore of Celestial Manipulation Manifestation Lore - Morbid Conjuration ----- General’s Regiment Slann Starmaster (280) • General • Incandescent Rectrices • Being of the Stars Kroxigor (440) • Reinforced Saurus Guard (240) • Reinforced Saurus Warriors (170) Saurus Warriors (170) --- Regiment 1 Skink Starseer (160) Hunters of Huanchi with Starstone Bolas (90) Hunters of Huanchi with Starstone Bolas (90) Raptadon Hunters (130) ----- Regiments of Renown Saviours of Cinderfall (230) Callis and Toll Toll's Companions ----- Faction Terrain Realmshaper Engine -----

[@CalebHastings]

Very nice!! How did you play the smaller units of Warriors? I go back and forth between a reinforced unit and smaller units (usually dependent on regiment slots)

[@DannyWadeson]

@@CalebHastings yeah I need to know this too. I'm guessing he used them as control pieces and better coverage for the Sunclaw MW pile in - plus they're still perfectly good at just standing on circles and being annoying to move. Definitely looks like a control list overall to me, with lots of deepstriking tech, including Callis/Toll who can be MURDER to get off an objective.