Serbia - Residency Options for Expats, Digital Nomads, & Retirees

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

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[@Casper-zk2uc]

Just amazing to see you guys considering living in a province I was born 60 years ago. I moved out early and ended living in Ireland, working mainly for US businesses in IT sector. What I love about you is an amazing level of openness for something different, and I can see it from US perspective, I think you are really minority of US citizens being able to to break out of stereotypes. About stereotypes, it is not US invention, they exist everywhere. I do have properties there, but do not spend enough time enjoying an amazing city of Novi Sad. I wish you all the best, and if you decide to settle there, I would love to meet you some time.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks we appreciate hearing from you. We will be zigging and zagging through out Europe over the coming years so perhaps we’ll cross paths.

[@Wolfsheim23]

Again I said this on another video. This sounds like perfect place to setup a Finca like in outside Medellin in Colombia. You buy a farmstead outside the city and find a family to live on and run the farm and they live off it's produce and you can build a small addition for yourself to visit occasionally from the city where you might stay most of the time. This way you really help the community too!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Interesting concept 👍

[@Subscireber]

You can't find people to live at your farm in Serbia, because people who want to live a farm life here already have their farms, land or similar, and they even can not find workers or help, so they hire people from Romania or similar. People in Serbia have perhaps low income officialy, but they have a lot of land they own or their families, so they have top food and relaxed life style, which you can see at the streets, if you wonder how come caffes and resoraunts are always full.

[@jaynebuck5163]

Love the festive atmosphere and the sidewalk cafes,

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

It’s a very vibrant city. ❤️

[@dwkmk3]

Giving serious consideration to the idea. We are Orthodox as well so have always had a soft spot for Serbia. Hvala!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Check it out it may be right for you. 👍

[@brankojovanovic1469]

Visit Srbobran it is a smal town north of Novi Sad some 35 kilometers, cute small town with a lot of old but in great conditions houses.

[@davihami1932]

Recently Serbia became Holiday destinantion !! Especially in this Pandemic

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

It’s more free than many places currently 😊

[@davihami1932]

@@WarrenJulieTravel yes You are right !! Nothing seems out of ordinary in Serbia !! Life is going Normal !! But everybody should take care from This Covid

[@davihami1932]

@SIMPLE VEGETARIANS Covid 19 this Virus wich made the world tired

[@miroslavkordic9795]

@@davihami1932 There is no such thing as "virus"..."Virus" in latin means poison, covid 19 as virus doesn't exist, it's something else that makes people ill

[@markmark35]

@@miroslavkordic9795 it’s a virus, it’s alive, it replicates, it kills.

[@keawhitmore3842]

Very fair. Serbia is protecting itself and right now seems to be very fair exchange.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks for the input 👍

[@Sasham4]

Thanks!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thank you so much ❤️

[@arthurlee9712]

Very informative. Good job.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@venkateshperumal9062]

Yes I'm from sg too

[@frobinson6876]

This is a very informative and interesting video. Thanks so much for posting it!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@1lifewanderlust]

Thank you for the information. Hoping to explore my options!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

We hope it works out for you.

[@SonuKumar-yi9dw]

Very good video. Also the lawyer is very good at his work. Many thanks

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks for watching the video 😊

[@SonuKumar-yi9dw]

@@WarrenJulieTravel Do you recommend living in novisad Is it safe?,

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

@@SonuKumar-yi9dw yes it’s very safe. 👍

[@SonuKumar-yi9dw]

@@WarrenJulieTravel Sir is there any racism in novisad we are from India.?

[@SonuKumar-yi9dw]

So Very kind of you God bless your family sir.

[@yuliya_g8255]

Hi! Love your videos! Im from Russia, married to serbian and living in Belgrade, so what I learned from other russians ( thousands of them lives here) is that buying a land on a company is not a good option anymore, bc of some law changes its makes a lot of problems later on. As a foreigners we cannot buy a land, but we can buy a house with land. Double check all information if you’re really going to move to Serbia, guys. There are also couple of strong lawyers in Belgrade I can recommend that can give you a clear information about everything you might want/need to know.

[@blagojelukic]

when you say as a foreigner you can buy a house with land that means something like Vikendica? and buying that you get residence?

[@jmatthyser]

Could you please send me the information of the lawyers.

[@milicabojic3580]

@@blagojelukic yes, that could work. i don't think there is any limit on the value of the property.

[@milicabojic3580]

@@jmatthyser Hi, I am currently conducting a research that shall inform the making of the governmental website for foreigners coming to live and work in Serbia. As I am diving into the subject, I am founding out that dealing with lawyers, even when they are recommended, can lead to a long lasting mess of procedures that should have been very simple. i do understand how seeking professional help is wise but I would also strongly advise you to do your own research. Wishing you smooth sailing

[@lifemasterkris1865]

@@milicabojic3580 *wishing you smooth sailing

[@k_and_m8745]

Thumb up for you reaching out for this info.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@l.w.paradis2108]

This actually makes sense: everywhere, a corporation is a creature of the state. If you are not a citizen, your corporation is nevertheless a Serbian entity. So, it owns the land, and you benefit from making the investment. You gain the status of an owner of a Serbian corporation, and that is taken into consideration for residency, etc.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks for the input 👍

[@amin0Panahi]

Thanks for the great topic!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@alex_2020]

Great video! Thanx for your efforts!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

👍😊

[@seansherburne9535]

Thanks for the video. Retire in 6 years and want to move there.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Best of luck!

[@Kosalsom]

Thank for sharing

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@michaelmundy5754]

Thank you - very informative.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thank you for watching us! 😃

[@alcappel5724]

Hi folks! great video. I've been to Belgrade and loved it. What is the next country you will be exploring and examining for cost of living and quality of life for expats? I know the covid thing may get in the way, but what are you thinking now? Thanks

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Montenegro, Bulgaria, or North Macedonia are next, it depends on who will let our passports enter due to Covid19. We are planning on Montenegro with Macedonia as the back up plan. Bulgaria we hope lifts restrictions by April 30th, we’d like to get there to buy a vehicle and set up a corporation to register it under for our travel needs.

[@dancingheartltd6646]

...this young man is legitmate and should not be second guessed in what he is saying. Undoubtedly, he is very intelligent and has clearly and very concisely explained the legal rules of engagement for his country. Bulgaria has a similar scheme and there are a few UK companies that offer this to the advantage of many expats from the UK, US, and other EU countries. To some, the scheme may not make much sense or may even seem a bit "dodgey", but if you do your due diligence, it could possibly work out to the benefit of those looking to broaden their citizenship horizons. With any new life adventure/journey, educating oneself as to what you truly want your life to look like into your retirment years is the key. Thx for sharing as this was very helpful and informative, indeed!;o) Cheers

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks for the comments 😊

[@rosaotero6526]

I have been looking for another residency and will definitely look into Serbia and contact these lawyers thank you!

[@faryalgohar9138]

nice video, very informative....

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@soamazing7027]

Very informative! Thank you for sharing! ☆ Jesimiel Millar Fernåndez

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Cheshaljmajstor]

Have nice stay and I hope u will get residency fast. I also hope to meet u one day. Feel free to contact me when u come to Belgrade. Best of luck!!!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@johndewey6358]

A bit confused here about taxes. At what point one becomes a Tax Resident (subject to taxation by Serbia for foreign earnings such as social security, or other retirement pensions or dividend income)? I heard the attorney say the Serbian law allows for double taxation but Serbian tax authority will not insist on you paying taxes on your foreign income (correct?). Since by law they can tax you what guarantee exist that they will not tax you in future (including retroactively)...

[@kw9494]

6.20 - is the attorney referring to a sole proprietorship firm, where you and the firm are the same and you have unlimited liability.

[@goransukovic8703]

No, for real... If you have 30.000 $ annually, take a loan for 60.000 , for 5 years, comes like 1050$ monthly. Buy a house with acre of land between Zrenjanin and Novi Sad, or Zrenjanin and Belgrade, with that money , you will pay real estate 20.000, refurbish for 20.000, add 10.000 for luxury, buy a car and live relaxed for rest of monthly income which remains approx. 1900 $. On your land . And your house.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks 😊

[@lvngitcouture]

Food for thought

[@mvnroger78]

so buying an apartment gives me residency ? :O wowe serbia is soo affordable tho we can save soo much cash!! :O

[@robdavis6532]

Great job! Opened my eyes to possibilies of investing and relocating in Serbia. Im looking for the video you made house hunting with another couple. Saw it and enjoyed it. Id like to find a real estate agent who speaks some English there. Thanks again!

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

We also did one in Novi Sad with an agent. Go to the video tab on our channel page and scroll through the videos from a couple months ago.

[@Wolfsheim23]

Thanks for this, I am planning a move to Serbia this year with my wife and daughter. I hope that we will all agree to live there for a time. I'm a disabled vet. I hope to put our daughter in an international school there. I'm a stock investor / day trader. Maybe I could get a digital nomad visa?

[@Novosadjanin82]

The public schools are great here, private schools are ok but expensive and i think most of them are on English. As for college many Universities ( back when i was going ) have bilingual courses.

[@milicabojic3580]

Also, as for the digital nomad visa, the government is working on it but I am not 100% sure if they figured it out yet. however, it's relatively cheap (up to 350 usd fixed tax per month) to register as a sole proprietor here and run (a part of) your business though that legal entity which will allow you to live and work in Serbia. it's a super easy process to set up a company here. you can totally do it by yourself. plus it's much safer and faster than using lawyers' support.

[@1lifewanderlust]

@@milicabojic3580 can you please explain in more detail how I can go about this?

[@b2tfuture696]

Hi. have you moved to Serbia? If yes, which city or village is good for expat?

[@paulwilliams2663]

​@b2tfuture696 Don't do it !. I have and only stayed as my wife is Serb. Corruption is sickening, and bureaucracy is shocking.

[@khanawithkaran6853]

Hey Can anyone tell me Serbia vs Georgia which is better for tax, buisness,travelling, expenses and overall living standards

[@vsazdric9150]

God bless you 🙏🙏🙏

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

😊

[@ajcapitano2425]

Hi good video , what is advantages of obtaining temprorary residence by buying property Vs. just buying property for investment or personal use as you are eligible for that and still you can stay 180 days per year ( 90 days per 18” days ) according to some foreign. Nationality ?

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

If you’re looking at staying put somewhere longer than 6 months a year or longer than 90 days at a time in an affordable country is the primary advantage. Julie and I are nomadic so we are going to work around our 90 days in various countries.

[@luckyali1832]

Next week i need to come Serbia

[@kimkennedy123]

Great info! Thank you. I've bookmarked his website. Can you recommend a good realtor? Thanks.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Please see this video, the realtors information is in the video description. Novi Sad Serbia, International House Hunters the costs for Expats, Nomads, and Investors. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJTZYpSbpa6Xd5Y

[@soundslight7754]

I like the style and contents of this channel, please if possible look into improving the sound quality

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

We try 😊

[@alwayslearning7672]

What are the advantages of getting residency in Serbia as a EU citizen? But can you buy a property say an acre, then are you allowed to grow some veggies on that acre? Not for commercial use but for you own consumption?

[@milan51259]

From what I have read, you can buy an acre as foreigner up to 2 Hectar of land. Otherwise you buy a house parcel with big land on it, if it is just for your personal veggie use :-)

[@bobwa399]

very detailed info. What if we buy an apartment and decide to rent it and live on another place and the address on residency paper shows our apartment that we have rented?

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

You should contact the attorney, his contact is in the video description. Thanks 😊

[@HarlemKid310]

Do you have to pay property tax on your property forever? Like in the United States

[@pamelad6774]

Hi bitcoin made a huge impact it sky rocket above $50k. Buying cryptocurrencies is good they're a huge help down the road for financial progressing.

[@vsazdric9150]

Zivela Srbija 👍👏🍀🙏🇷🇸

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

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[@ronpep2456]

What about the requirement to spend at least 6 mos a year in serbia?

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Please contact the attorney in the video description for answers to this question. ☺️

[@mvnroger78]

does owning a house or apartment gives me residency and eligibility to be a citizen ?

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

It gives you residency speak to an attorney about citizenship. See our residency video on Serbia.

[@bobwa399]

What about bank finance for buying a property?

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

I’m not sure if you will have that option and still qualify as a resident from home ownership.

[@bobwa399]

@@WarrenJulieTravel I guess you are right. Try to include that important info (Financing) next time you make similar videos. BTW: good videos so far..very informative.

[@catlady9481]

You are in my hometown 😊

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

It’s a lovely city:)

[@thuang8819]

Two questions needs clarify please. The tax need to pay for buy a 200 square meter house, is it 50 Euro a year , for 20 yrs will be 1000 Euro? The Attorney said 10000 Euro for 20 yrs, I am bit confused. Another question is how much he is charging for providing the services of buy property. Many thx

[@jzm7543]

Taxes for home is aprox. 50-100 euro a year. Depending on evaluation of property. This amount can be paid all at once or divided at 4 even parts quarterly. You get the bill once a year and on this bill it is stated which are those 4 dates when you are supposed to pay quarterly property taxes. Yes, it is not 10k euros in 20y. This guy was nervous or sonething. I cant know how much he would charge, bit I can tell you that last year when my grandparents were selling their old house and buying new one, they paid 300euros for the lawyers service. Thou, they are citizens of Serbia. There could be some extra charges bcs the process for foreigners takes aditional action. I am just speculating, but it could be double as much at most. Not 10x more.

[@thuang8819]

@@jzm7543 Many thanks for the clarification.

[@ЉВЈ]

@@jzm7543 The comisssion that real estate agencies charge is 2 to 3%.

[@SunnivavinnuS]

Hi :) Can anyone help me understand: If I start a company, mainly to buy a house with agricultural land and to get permanent residency: Do I have to stay in Serbia 6 months every year for 5 years to get my permanent residency? Thank you 🙏🙂

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Please contact the attorney in the video, see the video description for his information.

[@mohieyfwzy4430]

I am an English teacher looking for a teaching job in Serbia

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

I’m not sure about the demand, there are a lot of English speakers there. Maybe someone will respond with guidance.

[@bobwa399]

How to bring your retirement income into country? He said go cross border and use their ATM what If my passport does not allows me to go abroad then I have to use Serbian bank to import my income and then I can be charged 46% Tax on that.Sounds bit risky on Income Tax. The description about Income Tax on pension was tentative, not so clear. Also some people may have other income than pure retirement like investment in a bank that gives fix good profit each year or month. What about that? will that be treated as a retirement income? Although Govt. is not paying that.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

It sounds like you’re retirement income earned outside of Serbia is safe from taxes. I think Serbia will need to firm up the language on the rules eventually. We may do another video on Residency in Serbia in the future. We just did one on Montenegro you should check out.

[@bobwa399]

@@WarrenJulieTravel Yes good idea ME is another better place to be. The only negative is that the country is too small to make money.

[@fakiyafemi4101]

Thanks for your update I am interested in Serbia How can I get your personal contact Can you help me move to Serbia. Thank you.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Please email us at [e-mail] and we will forward you over to Nemanja.

[@Deniska007-b9s]

Hello

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Hello. Thanks for watching.

[@davidchicoine9209]

So, Serbia is a candidate for EU. What could go wrong if Serbia accedes to the EU?

[@aramisone7198]

It would not be a very big difference laws have to be according to EU standards the only thing that is not good is that for example jam can not be called jam if its not 60% fruit and 40%sugar per 100grams , the EU is always coming up with new demands so it will take years before the country becomes a part of the EU.

[@lifemasterkris1865]

I wonder if a person is 100% Serbian ancestry if that’s a consideration for residency?

[@milicabojic3580]

It is! By the law on foreigners, there is an expedited procedure for them to get a long term residency

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

Thanks for answering 👍

[@milan51259]

It is. Also if you already have been a Serbian citizen before.

[@lifemasterkris1865]

@@milan51259 I’m born in America, but my heart is tired of feeling like “a stranger in a strange land”. I’m seriously thinking about reversing my grandparents’ immigration to here.

[@lifemasterkris1865]

@Dejan Raković Thanks for sharing. I’ll definitely be back “home” someday.

[@arayan3001]

Hi

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

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[@leneekay1]

Good video! Thanks to you both, and the young lawyer. As a Malaysian Chinese, I know I can't go to Serbia unless I have a visa from their embassy. Which there isn't one in Malaysia :/ My other half is American but I am NOT. Here is a question - do you know anything about expats from other places? Such as Asians? Would that be a problem? Are they open & acceptable? & what about the usage of English? Because it's really hard to learn Serbian 🤦‍♀️😅 in a short amount of time. I can understand there's some confusion in the comment section about the lawyer's attitude. I can also understand why, because English isn't his main language, nor expression. It would certainly help if he would to have a smile.. off and on. Just saying! 😄 I'm fortunate to grew up in a multiracial, multi-lingo, multicultural environment. Lets us all be fair, not everyone grew up in an English speaking country! Therefore we should not expect others to conform to some expectations, that can be a little far fetch.

[@carick235]

As for Asians, i know there is a big Chinese community here in Serbia (basically in all cities, since they have their stores all over country) and there are no issues of any kind (racism related conflicts or anything close), people here are open to foreigners, even more to those that want to live here and not just as tourists. As for English, younger population speak it good enough or fluently (90+%), since we have it in school from the first grade, while older generations (40+), that grew up when Russian was in schools (communist era), mostly dont speak (i would say around 20% speak English in that age). If you plan to live here, learning basic Serbian words for everyday use (shops for example) is not that hard, nobody expect of u to speak grammatically correct but its enough to know basic words and people will understand u, actually i always try my best to help when i see foreigner is using "broken" Serbian, you learn faster through everyday use than through books.

[@leneekay1]

@@carick235 Thank you so much Carick 🙏😊! I presume you're Serbian yourself? So good to know things are as friendly as it gets. Yes of course I will be learning the language, it will only be appropriate. When I was in France I learned some French, but later not using it, just gone to waste, even though I can still understand or speak just a few words. Haha 😅 We're considering Serbia. Trouble is as a Malaysian - it's hard to get to Serbia without a visa. Moreover, there's NO Serbian Embassy here for me to go to, and what are the chances to get one isn't known as well. I am wondering, what IF I'm or will be, in one of the EU countries where I can easily get there, and go to the Serbia embassy, say for example, either in Croatia, or Portugal, do you think I can apply for one in or through other countries? A lovely day ahead to you. Once again, much thanks🙏🙏☕.

[@carick235]

@@leneekay1 My real name is Marko, and yes i'm from Belgrade. I just checked Wikipedia page of Malaysian passport and it's really strange that Serbia is the only country in Europe where Malaysian citizens require visa, i guess our governments never really tried to fix that. Yes you would need to go to any Serbian embassy or consulate abroad to apply for visa, it's better for you to go to some embassy close to where you live, but basically any. Here is all you need: www.euraxess.rs/serbia/information-assistance/visa-and-entry-and-stay-conditions I know gov is strict about visa, since from time to time we get news about foreigners from some country that require visa enter Serbia through airports and then when they arrive they are deported back to their country (especially if they don't have their embassy here). So with valid visa you would have no worries of that kind. Basically need valid Malaysian passport (with minimum 90 days before expiration), valid visa, sufficients funds for stay (our ministry web site say 50 euros per day, cash or printed account balance with credit card with you). Here is Malaysian embassy in Belgrade (yes there is one :)) info page: www.kln.gov.my/web/srb_belgrade/home I hope i was helpful :)

[@leneekay1]

@@carick235 Hi Marko ! Nice to meet you here. Technically or indirectly, may I assume you as a virtual Serbian friend? Haha 😅 Those are some very useful info you got there, thank you so much. Yeah, I've no idea either as to why Serbia was singled out from my list of Europe countries I could enter without a visa. Strange that Malaysia do have an embassy in Serbia, and not the other way around. Anyway, it is what it is. The closest to me is in Jakarta, Indonesia, that's not that close actually, and I really do not feel like going to Indonesia. Actually, we were kind of kicking around the idea of flying into --- Maybe Croatia where I can get in, and apply the Serbia Visa while in Croatia, do you think that would work? Or we were also thinking maybe Portugal & locate the Serbian embassy there & HOPEFULLY I can obtain one through there. It actually coast more money to fly to Indonesia just for the visa, & it may take up 4 weeks, I can't afford that. Too bad there isn't an online application. :/ I think it's best not to correspond here on someone's channel. If you want that is - You can reach me at [e-mail] My nick name is Leneè , from Malaysia. Thank you so much for your time & efforts, I truly appreciate it 🙏🙏 Have a lovely day ☕😊

[@carick235]

@@leneekay1 Yes you can :) Yes Croatia or Portugal are ok if that suits you, i doubt they would need more than few days to finish the job but it's best to find contact emails of embassies there and ask them how long would it take to finish everything after you apply with passport and documentation, so you can plan your time there.

[@uroskostic8570]

Actually city Nis is second largest, but ok :)

[@ptk_ns]

By what metric? Lol

[@uroskostic8570]

@@ptk_ns Nis je po povrsini skoro duplo veci od NS.

[@ptk_ns]

@@uroskostic8570 Nobody ranks cities by Area because it tells you next to nothing about its demographic or economic impact.

[@besovereign2032]

in importance NS number 2

[@bernadetteshiels5240]

Do all doctors speak English in Serbia

[@Alex-ln9on]

The more serious ones do. Btw we have some of the best doctors in the world, trust me.

[@cvetkovicmarco515]

Yes, every doc.

[@_petrovic179]

That mentioned ''double taxation'' is not working and it will not work ever It will not work, since from Serbia thousands of people are working outside of Serbia (Germany, Austria, USA, Sweden, etc etc) and NONE of them is ''double taxed'' = what you earn outside, in USA, will be taxed in USA, nobody will tax it here in Serbia again. If you are resident, or citizen, all the same. End of story.

[@pitchkapizda8355]

Serbia rocks hot chicks great food and people are always happy

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

I love your perspective, as a married man I'll leave the analysis of the female population up to the individual. They are overall very fit as a population males and females.

[@vladan195]

Find the other opinion (attorney), things are less complicated (chaotic) than it looks after this "advices"....

[@bsinghsidhu822]

❤️🌸☘️❤️

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

😁♥️

[@MrAlehandroooooo]

Pure white country, i am sure for many Americans it's very strange to see that. Very safe, no gettos, good food and friendly. You can't get better for that money.

[@HeritageCast]

Its almost like being homogeneous and European creates safety or something lol...

[@amir_hetsroni_fan_club3798]

It's so great that 75 % of young want to emigrate, corruption levels are very high and air pollution is one of the worst in Europe. It is also not pure white, there are many gypsies and about 5- 10 % of Serbs could pass as Middle Eastern.

[@besovereign2032]

@@amir_hetsroni_fan_club3798when he says pure white he is not thinking about gypsies

[@sashan.4786]

I guess you haven’t heard about the new tax law on “digital nomads” :) there’s only one shepherd in town, it’s called Tax Office lol

[@charlesdavis7461]

If only our immigrants would look at other county's immigration policies instead of entering illegally into the US and realize you can be deported. We welcome immigrants but those who enter by law.

[@paulwilliams2663]

Serbia is not the ideal relocation Ive lived here long enough and married a Serb lady. The whole nation is corrupt ! Top to bottom.

[@bw5911]

So confusing!

[@hannahotwa1047]

All this info is very chaotic. People interested to move to Serbia are mostly seniors, not interested in investing.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

I think we clarified that owning a home allows for residency, and retirement is not taxed.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Land that you buy and don't live on is regarded as "investment." You cannot buy land as an investment without forming a corporation (the corporation is a creature of the state, hence is "Serbian" whether or not you are). But if you buy a house, it has to be your residence. Not for investment. Then you don't need to form any corporation. It is simply where you live.

[@viajerozz]

@@WarrenJulieTravel Yeah but what if you don't bu a home? What are the rules for just living there with a social security income. I tried to get thru the video for that info..did I miss it?

[@milan51259]

@@l.w.paradis2108 This is not true. You can buy land in form of acre up to 2 hectars of land. If you want to buy more, you need to form a corporation.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@milan51259 So the attorney in the video gave too stringent criteria? Because I was explaining what he said, which is logical at least.

[@krugmeup2162]

Lawyers are definitely not esteemed.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

🤔

[@markogarin4475]

ne pridrzava se zakona..................treba ali nemoras...........................

[@AprilBrand74]

I'm sorry however I don't take all he says as the gospel, it all sounds wishy-washy and governments from what I've seen aren't aren't going to just look the other way, normally. Just my opinion but I have no experience with their government and rules.

[@WarrenJulieTravel]

I can respect your view, I would prefer solid written guidelines. In practice it appears things are viewed more lenient when it comes to retirees.

[@AprilBrand74]

@@WarrenJulieTravel That's awesome, I hope that if that's where you guys plant your roots - you talked us on your journey. I look forward to seeing your adventures!

[@AndrejaKostic]

Hi! I'm actually from Serbia, and perhaps I can provide a few comments... First of all, Serbia does not have a tradition of rule of law. Instead, for the last 200ish years we've had our own government, we've always had a rule of "glorious leader". The titles changed (prince, king, prime minister, president, president of the presidium, etc...), but it was always the leader who made the rules, and the laws were there to clarify the intentions of the leader. As a result, there often wasn't much discussion when making laws, laws are often not really functional, have mistakes in them (for example, text of law has engineering formulas used to calculate something, which were correctly written in the proposal, but have parts missing in the text of the accepted law) are very unclear and so on. So we make do, and we mostly look on the law not as something to be actually followed (unless our leader really wants us to, and then we do it not because it's law, but the wish of the leader), but as suggestions. Also, the country doesn't generate much income through taxation. We don't have complicated tax forms, tax classes, expenses to report, which are used to get tax returns and so on. The income taxes are taken from your salary by your employer, and are mostly fixed, so when we talk about salaries, we talk about the net amounts. For 99% of the population, the only contact with the tax system are the letters we receive once a year for property taxes. Everything else is automated. I'll provide a few examples of state not caring about the laws: In the communist Yugoslavia, it was expected that your employer was to provide you with an apartment. You could use that apartment then until the end of your life, and your children could use it until they got their own apartments from their own employers. We also had an internal free market. In 1968, my municipality contracted the state-owned company where my grandfather was working as a civil engineer, to built a settlement with two-apartment houses, with the intention of selling the apartments to other state-owned companies to distribute to their workers. So they made a project for a few hundred houses, started working on it, got the construction permits, and were doing paperwork on the project. Then, the municipality determined that the apartments were too large, and wouldn't sell well, so they decided to split all apartments vertically into two, so they got twice as much apartments which were half of the intended size. The municipality was to issue new construction permits for the apartments. My grandfather got one of those apartments, which we purchased from the company in the meantime, but still even to this day, the construction permits were not issues, and we still don't have clear paperwork for the house. In early 2000s, government decided that it's now our fault that the permits are not in order, so we spent 20 years cleaning up the paperwork. Still, in practice, we've had no issues with the house. In 2014, I moved to Germany. In Serbia, police does all the ID cards, passports, driver's licenses and similar documents. Legally, I had a duty to report my new address in Germany to the police. When I went to the police station to do that, they didn't want to accept the paperwork. The clerk told me not to register my foreign address, since then, I'd lose my residency in Serbia, and that it would be really hard to get it back (as a Serbian citizen!). I renewed my passport from abroad, so they know that I'm in Germany, but they just ignore it. A friend of mine got income via Google AdSense several years ago. He wanted to report it and pay taxes. The clerks at the taxation directorate didn't even want to talk to him! Although, he was legally obliged to pay the taxes, the amount was so small, that nobody wanted to look at it. He went through a lot of trouble to pay the tax. Of course, there are cases where state keeps ignoring something, and then suddenly starts caring in general, or in a particular case: We have compulsory military service for men, but the actual service was temporarily paused some time ago, so most of the people in my generation skipped the bootcamp. When we move abroad, we have to register our foreign address at the Serbian consulate , which passes it then to the military, and then we can't be called for service. Every time we change the address, we have to register the new address. In practice, nobody does this. I moved to Germany and a friend of mine moved to Japan. We didn't register the addresses. He actually got called up for military service, and had a bit of administrative trouble to register that he's in Japan. After hearing what happened to him, I went to a consulate in Germany to register, and people there thought that I was insane. I had some trouble explaining what I needed them to do, had to show the web page of the ministry of foreign affairs to the clerk, to convince him that I really am obliged to register an address, then he had to call the embassy in Berlin, to find out how the procedure goes and so on and so on. When I moved in Germany, the clerks at the new consulate to which I belonged to didn't want to send the new registration, although it's required by the law. Another well-known example are the taxes for freelancers. Many (mostly young) people in Serbia started earning money in recent years through online jobs, like doing English classes (yes, there are countries where actual university professors of English, with PhDs in English can't actually speak English), Serbian classes to foreigners, programming jobs, web-development, search engine optimizations and so on. This allowed them to have a good source of extra money, and like my friend with AdSense, the tax authorities wanted to hear nothing from them. So, in practice, they payed no taxes. Then suddenly, the state (or to say more clearly, important politicians and not just clerks) found out that they exist, and now it wants its 46% back for the last 5 years (and health insurance, even though you can't use it retroactively). Of course, since many people were told not to pay taxes, they spent the money. So sorry for the wall of text, but the situation is a bit complex.

[@scif2622]

@@AndrejaKostic this is insane..... government sounds like moody gf on period 😅 and making everyone suffer cuz not able to make up mind and sometimes not even care 😑

[@AndrejaKostic]

@@scif2622 Yeah, that's one of the reasons why we have such strong emigration. Also, I mentioned that the laws are more like guidelines... Well, for all the deadlines the government gives, there are usually extensions, and then extensions of extensions, and then extensions of extensions of extensions, and then debt-reprogramming programs, so you pay your debts in say monthly installments for 10 years and so on and so on... In the end, if you did everything right first time, like you were supposed to, you feel like an idiot, and it's not uncommon that those who didn't do paperwork promptly actually pay less than those who did.

[@luckyali1832]

Hi