Serenity (2005) - MOVIE REACTION - FIRST TIME WATCHING

[@djcowell91]

Gina Torres has said that in her mind, Zoe was pregnant at the end, so she got her wish and Wash will live on in their son/daughter. Thanks for fun reactions to the whole series!

[@shawngipson5403]

She is indeed pregnant. They wrote comics continuing the story.

[@RamblersInc]

I suppose something good came out of a bad situation 😢.

[@adp806]

She had a daughter, Emma.

[@DocMicrowave]

She also got to wear that Slinky Dress she wanted. Mal probably got it for her.

[@CarlHungus]

an actual joke that Nathan Fillion told at a sci-fi convention: How do Reavers clean their spears? ...They run them through the Wash 😁 Congrats on officially becoming Browncoats!

[@brauliob]

I don't know, we never saw them sing/hum the theme song. At least on on KZbin. Usually all reactors break down in the end.

[@mark-be9mq]

Still too soon.😅

[@Garryck-1]

@@mark-be9mq - It always will be...

[@paratus04]

And the perfect response to that joke? Let me quote Alan Tudyk from A Knights Tale, “It’s called a LANCE, HELLOOOO!”

[@JeffKelly03]

@@brauliob The best example of that was when Ashleigh Burton recently watched it. At the beginning of the run, she was mostly confused by the theme and didn't dig it like, at all (edited because I just went back and rewatched, and couldn't remember but yeah, she was not a fan at first). By the end, she was singing every gorram word, every gorram reaction.

[@thewheelweave]

To say it was "public demand" is quite an understatement. But yes, it was fans who fought for this movie to be made for sure, and nobody thought it was going to happen, but somehow it did. There's a documentary with a lot of fun behind the scenes and cast/crew interviews etc called "Done the Impossible: The Fans' Tale of 'Firefly' and 'Serenity"

[@SciFiCatGuy]

It was also the clout Jos had from Buffy and Angel that he leveraged with the studio to get it done.

[@lia53233]

There's actually a documentary about how the fans got this movie made. It was the first time that had ever been done. Now of course it's been done to death.

[@evilpenguinmas]

The reaver River punches in slow-mo after Mal takes out the operative? Neil Patrick Harris.

[@SaulOhio]

Doogie Howser.

[@JeffKelly03]

I can't believe I never knew that, because I read this comment before watching the reaction and... it actually LOOKS like NPH.

[@RamblersInc]

what......WHAT ? ! NPH is in this?

[@evilpenguinmas]

It actually IS NPH.

[@bobbuethe1477]

So this was a "Dr. Horrible" reunion? (*checks calendar*) Umm... "pre-union?"

[@andscifi]

One of my favorite line readings of all time is in the scene where Mal says, "Sooner or later they'll come back around to the idea that they can make people better" then he glances at River. It's subtle, but that's what makes it so great. He doesn't have to say it because that glance and the pause says everything. River is in many ways the same type of experiment as the people on Miranda.

[@RamblersInc]

Good catch. You're right, it's ever so subtle. 😢 Poor River. She's had that in her mind all along.

[@sherrysink3177]

This is the film that first brought Chiwetel Ejiofor to my attention, and I've remembered him and his name ever since. His performance as the Operative in this film is so sinister, chilling and quietly creepy (completely opposite of most "bad guys" in movies, that tend to be over the top in some way). And he manages to have his own code, which is weirdly honorable, even as he's completely terrifying. He's SOOOOO good. It's unforgettable.

[@RamblersInc]

Brilliant actor.

[@ThatCronus]

45:57 Mal wasn't asking Zoe about the ship, he was asking about her.

[@RamblersInc]

😢

[@awakeningcry]

👏👏 for captain obvious here

[@mark-be9mq]

Summer trained 3 mnths before filming for the fight scenes & I think my favorite in film. It's beautiful, fluid, choreographed, voilence. Its is River's Dance. A real treat to watch

[@RamblersInc]

That was a good fight scene. Wow only 3 months.

[@dlweiss]

I think the big narrative advantage of killing Wash is that the final conflict immediately feels WAY more dangerous and unpredictable - you yourselves had that moment of legitimately wondering "are they ALL going to die??" And to be able to conjure that level of tension and uncertainty is no small feat.

[@RamblersInc]

That's a good point seeing as we lose none of them throughout the show.

[@RoGueNavy]

"I could stand to hear a little more." The single-most Jayne thing Jayne ever said! It felt SO wrong, busting out loud at Kaylee's declaration of intent to live, so soon after Wash died. But Whedon knew we needed something to ease the pain.

[@marcbloom7462]

Summer Glau was a dancer, and the stunt team were thrilled to work with her. They put a pole in the fight scene in the bar because the stunt team found out she could kick around it. I saw the film before I saw the show. I sat there as the credits rolled and said "Again, again." I loved seeing you react to the movie. BTW, Joss Whedon did try to make you think that everyone was going to die. There's a term for that kind of movie but it would spoil the movie that gives its name to "everybody dies"

[@JeffKelly03]

Yep - when they said "She's moving like a ballerina through the Reavers" I was thinking, "That's funny, because Summer Glau WAS a ballerina." And, in fact, her first ever TV credit was as the ghost of a ballerina in "Angel" which is, obviously, another Whedon show.

[@RamblersInc]

That was an amazing sequence. She'd do well in more action roles, except I don't think I've seen her in anything else (apart from the terminator show).

[@VerMaarte]

@@RamblersInc That's also a role where her background as a dancer was very useful. Many women in action movies have backgrounds like that. You must be able to precisely plan your movements. In Terminator SCC (and also in the Firefly series) you can really observe small gradual changes in her movements during the series. Very well done. If you look back through the series you'll notice that all her movements and expressions (also slightly offscreen) are very deliberate.

[@Muck006]

That LOOKS "neat" ... but IS COMPLETELY STUPID. The TROPE of "tiny girl beating up bigger men" NEEDS TO DIE!

[@CoL_Drake]

The intro where he walks through the ship in a two cut filmed as one cut is so amazing

[@DocMicrowave]

I always loved the Serenity set. It seemed so well laid out. You had a feeling just based on camera shots and angles which way to go to get to the bridge, dinning room, cargo area, engine room, Sickbay, shuttles, etc.

[@dalesharp9953]

Great reactions. The movie had to be made for fans and people who never saw the show. The Miranda storyline was supposed to be revealed at the end of season 2. Book's death was to help believe in some cause. Wash's death was to show how deadly this situation is. Book's back story is in a comic book named A Shepard's Tale. Inara had a secret. There was a small nod in Out of Gas. There is a book called Life Signs that tells the story. I want to thank you both for reacting to the show and movie.

[@dalesharp9953]

It was also said the Alan and Ron couldn't commit to additional movies. Joss wanted the show to be darker, but the FOX executives made him lighten the show up.

[@RamblersInc]

But, Wash dying...really? We already know how messed up the Reavers are. Unless that was a way to show new viewers.

[@dalesharp9953]

If the series continued, Wash and Book wouldn't of died. Joss wanted to show how deadly and dire the situation is. Joss was hoping for more movies, but Ron and Alan couldn't commit to additional movies.

[@Br0nto5aurus]

If it's any consolation at all, in the comics, Wash and Zoey's daughter is born about 9 months after the events of this movie.

[@RamblersInc]

That's amazing ....and sad.

[@Ernwaldo]

Bravo. Well done, gentlemen. Seems you enjoyed the show from your reactions, which I appreciated. Thank you for taking us along on your Firefly/Serenity journey. Cheers.

[@RamblersInc]

Thank You for joining us on it. Definitely one of those "if only" shows.

[@eddiemi]

I don't believe this would be the only secret River has tucked away.

[@ernesthakey3396]

Probably the biggest though...

[@mwhyte1979]

There's a scene that not a lot of folk catch. Everyone is sitting in the common room on Serenity, discussing what to do after seeing Miranda. Jayne is drinking from a bottle and says that shepherd told him that even if you don't do the right thing, to at least do something. Jayne then passes the bottle to Simon. I kinda think that's Jayne's way of accpting that Simon and River is part of the crew/family.

[@RamblersInc]

Good catch. It's a subtle thing but I agree.

[@iKvetch558]

"That's a weird sentence." That's Mister Universe LOL

[@RamblersInc]

😂

[@HappySlug257]

That's my bedtime watching sorted for today!

[@RamblersInc]

🙌

[@sopdox]

Had this film been a box office success (it wasn’t), there were plans for a sequel. Ron Glass and Alan Tudyk had already signed on to other projects and wouldn’t be available. This was how their story had to end to explain their absence in the sequel.

[@Benefacez]

Yeah, the Studio handled that abysmally. They Held so many test screenings that by the time it was finally launched in theatres everyone had already seen it. Stupid.

[@RamblersInc]

Ahhhh ok. Now those decisions make more sense.

[@Muck006]

@@Benefacez The story is also kinda stupid ... - transforming River from "gifted" to "psychic" - completely ignoring "two by two, hands of blue" - ignoring sooooooo many laws of physics (and biology) that it hurts [River being the "super fighter" is FEMINIST TROPE and not at all realistic]

[@Benefacez]

@@Muck006 You should probably watch the River Tam Files. You have some misogony issues going on here. This has nothing to do with feminism...dear god...

[@Benefacez]

@@Muck006 Really? What has any of that got to do with feminism?

[@JAYWALKER1000]

If the movie led to a revival of the series, guess which two actors had prior commitments.

[@RamblersInc]

Morena and Nathan?

[@MrZeek1519]

@Ramblersinc..... I hope that was sarcasm. But no... Ron Glass and Alan Tudyk (A.k.a Wash and Book).

[@RamblersInc]

Damnit. That was such an easy answer as well 🤦‍♂️.

[@JAYWALKER1000]

@ 36:00 - The Reivers are the mines in Gslaxy Quest.

[@RamblersInc]

😂

[@Iymarra]

Hurts, doesn't it? Seeing the crew one last time and that's just....it. Nothing more, except some books, I think comics and never released story lines. If I recall, every single cast member said they'd want to do more now, but this is just the end. At least until you do a rewatch, then it's like going home to family.

[@Garryck-1]

There's also an RPG.

[@RamblersInc]

Yup 😞. I don't even know if I want a reboot either.

[@lisac4590]

Yes the movie is a lot darker tone. But on the DVD commentary (yes, I'm old) they explained that the network thought Mal was too harsh in the original pilot and asked for him to be more relatable (and basically gave them a weekend to write a new pilot, the train job). Mal in the pilot is a lot closer to Mal in the movie.

[@RamblersInc]

Imagine if we got pilot Mal throughout the show.

[@Garryck-1]

Actually, my understanding of it is that *Nathan* thought his character was too harsh, and asked for him to be toned down a little.

[@mark-be9mq]

Wonderful monologue to express the essence of the series "Love keeps her in the air...makes her a home."..

[@RamblersInc]

🥹

[@robertmohl171]

Great reaction! I've enjoyed the Firefly journey with you. After watching the series and movie several times, I've come to the belief that Book was an Operative for the Alliance. I've not read the graphic novel about him yet, but with his knowledge of crime, weapons, and seedier unreligious stuff plus his reluctance to tell Mal about his past I think he did some most unsavory things and has devoted his life to God in atonement for his actions.

[@RamblersInc]

It would make sense. Sad we lost him, but would've liked a face off with the Operative so we could get more information before he died.

[@Jskew]

Not a reaction but my friends you should definitely watch "Done the impossible" a documentary hosted by "Jayne". This movie was the first time in Hollywood history that a major motion picture was completely created from the insistence of the fans. Fans sent letters had entire campaigns insisting for a conclusion. Much love and keep on keepin on J.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

Question: Have u ever seen Adam Baldwin in... D.C. Cab or Full Metal Jacket? My those roles of his are linked to his role in Serenity

[@RoGueNavy]

I saw this movie on opening night, at a packed theater. When Book died, the theater went almost totally silent. Only a few sobs could be heard. When Wash died, the whole theater stood and roared in anger. Quite a few people walked out.

[@RamblersInc]

Not surprised. That was so sudden.

[@Sup3rnal]

Yesssssssssss! Will comment again after watching 😆

[@sherrysink3177]

Line that gets me crying every time? River saying "You've always taken care of me... my turn." ❤❤❤ Best funny line: Kaylee saying "Hell with this! I"m gonna live!" Classic. 😆🤣

[@RamblersInc]

You reminded me. That's one of the best things about this movie. Kaylee x Simon ...FINALLY ! 😂

[@RoGueNavy]

I love the bit where Jayne slides the bottle over to Simon. It shows he's finally accepted Simon as a crew member.

[@Educated2Extinction]

"We're not telling people what to think. We're just trying to teach them how." is one of the scariest lines of dialogue ever spoken.

[@anonagain]

I'm not sure why no one gets it - it wasn't 10% that became Reavers - it was 1/10th of 1%.(0.1%) which makes more sense given the total number of people on Miranda. But I'm nitpicking. 🙂Thanks for sharing the journey guys - I've really enjoyed rewatching with you. Hope you'll do one more reaction video - the blooper/gag reels for Firefly and Serenity. They're both available on KZbin and well worth watching. And the River Tam sessions. 🙂

[@RamblersInc]

Oooohhhh ok. Yeh that makes more sense. We saw the River Tam sessions (no reaction for it). That was....scary...and sad.

[@LeeCarlson]

River demonstrates just what you would expect with a martial arts-trained psychic.

[@ThePharaz]

Uncredited Neil Patrick Harris was in Serenity as “Screaming Reaver” at 1:45. There are comics/graphic novels that give more information including the backstory of Book. There is also a Roleplaying Game Serenity RPG which contains more information.

[@RamblersInc]

Who would've thought that NPH would be in this 😂

[@ernesthakey3396]

99.9% died, 0.1% became Reavers. "About a tenth of a percent of the population had the opposite reaction." Regarding Book and Wash - apparently they hoped to make multiple movies, those two actors were the only ones that couldn't sign up for that.

[@adp806]

Exactly. A lot of reaction video people mention it with the idea that it is 90/10%

[@I.Lostalim]

Talk is that when green lighting the movie, the studio was requiring the actors to sign on for multiple movies but Alan and Ron couldn't - So Joss did them a favour and bypassed the studio by making it impossible to bring them back. Narratively it certainly adds an extra layer to everything because as an audience you're watching the final act with the thought that there's no plot armour for our heroes and anybody could die. It's been fun watching you run through this series and learn the joys of Firefly!

[@RamblersInc]

Makes you think. Would we have the entire crew alive if Alan and Ron didn't have other commitments. Would we then have the same jeopardy, narratively speaking.

[@Benefacez]

You are one of the few recent reactors who care for the horrors River must have gone through. Many others are just like : oh, she's batshit crazy, a liability or worse. It's refreshing to see some peeps with healthy compassion. Thanks.❤

[@RamblersInc]

I thought it was just trauma but she's had all of that in her head all this time. Poor girl.

[@trulybtd5396]

Not well known cameo: the fist reaver river punches in slow mo is Niel Patrick Harris, uncredited. They wanted to keep the door open for more firefly movies, but Alan Tudyk and Ron Glass could not commit, so thats their fate, rather than just having them disappear between installations. The timing of Wash is pretty smart, as it makes the whole audience fear that noone is safe in the final act.

[@RamblersInc]

Time for me to go back to that bit to spot NPH.

[@JeffKelly03]

I never watched the show when it first came out (I was in college at the time, I was a big Buffy and Angel fan, and two of my roommates watched it but, for whatever reason, I never did). Discovered it on DVD a couple years later, adored it, and got the chance to see a screening of the movie in Providence, RI, six months before it was released. The week before it got released theatrically, I wrecked my car and lived about three or four miles from the movie theater in the town where I was living at that point... and walked to the theater to see it again because I had loved it so much. Oh, and by the way, yes, OF COURSE when I saw the early screening I went there wearing a brown coat.

[@RamblersInc]

"...I went there wearing a brown coat." Legend 🙌

[@charleslatora5750]

He said earlier in the film it's not his business to know what the secrets are just to keep them (secret)... Don't let anybody find out and if they do kill them

[@RoGueNavy]

Now that you've finished the series, it's time to clue you in on a very popular theory on the show. Each member of the crew represents a part of Mal, that he feels he's lost. He hired Zoe as his second-in-command because she was a fellow soldier who fought with him in the war against the Alliance. He keeps her around because he needs someone who has been in the same boat as himself from a soldier's perspective, and have at least one person who will remain fiercely loyal to him without question. He keeps Wash around because he needs an excellent pilot, as well as someone with a sense of humor. He keeps Kaylee around because he needs a great mechanic and someone to remain hopeful. He keeps Simon around because he needs a doctor who can patch up his crew in his dangerous line of work and help him heal from within. He keeps River around because she's a mindreader and needs someone who possesses a sense of wonder. He keeps Book around because he needs someone who has faith and also serve as his conscience. He keeps Inara around because he needs to love and to be loved. He keeps Jayne around because he needs the extra muscle when the going gets tough, and while Jayne is a self-preservationist, he has also shown to be unexpectedly generous at times when it involved the safety of the crew. The Serenity crew has become Mal's family and it is through them that he ultimately pieces back together his broken life by rediscovering the things that he lost: loyalty, humor, hope, peace of mind, sense of wonder, faith, love, and generosity

[@charleslatora5750]

Well written.

[@RamblersInc]

👏 beautifully put.

[@TheMacerica]

Great reaction & great movie! I saw a comment below from someone who wasn't happy with this to wrap up Firefly, but I thought it was great overall. It tied up some loose ends, though not all. And it was very well paced - they did do a lot of exposition that could have dragged, but they did it well, I think. My head cannon is that Book was an Operative like the villain in this, before he lost his faith like this one and turned to religion. Idk how accurate that is - I think there's a comic that goes into his backstory, but I haven't read it yet (but plan to, so no one spoil it for me, please!)

[@RamblersInc]

We liked it, I need some more closure though so may take a stab at the comic (mainly between Inara and Mal).

[@mhlevy]

In an interview with Joss, there may have been a possibility for another movie, but Alan Tudyk was simply too busy with movie and TV roles to commit to additional movies. And of course, I have no idea why Ron Glass wasn't available for additional movies, but unfortunately he passed away some time ago.

[@RamblersInc]

RIP Ron Glass. At least we can make sense of the deaths now.

[@adp806]

Both had prior commitments (both were film, TV, and voice actors), and couldn't commit to a 3-film deal, as the others did. Joss Whedon has commented that he wrote them out this way to allow for an ongoing story without them, but had ideas of how to bring them back if they were available (it is Sci-Fi after all).

[@user-kg7co9vi5r]

I loved the panic on the Operative when the reavers appeared, when he told Mal "you cannot make me angry". Additionally in the beginning we see a dark and stressed Mal, obviously Serenity and her family have fallen on hard times. I remembered Mal telling Simon the conditions where he might shoot him, like I said Mal in a dark place.

[@RamblersInc]

He was in shock 😂 " SOMEBODY FIRE ! "

[@maidden]

IRL 3 years passed between the end of the show and the start of the movie, but in-world it was just a few months. There's a few comic books that explore what happened in between, Inara and Book leaving and stuff.

[@wymenlucia7870]

There is a documentary called "Done the Impossible" that shows how the show went from being cancelled to being made into a movie. Its a good watch.

[@dudieb]

"Thank you Mom for having a thing for Nathan Fillion that led you to introducing me to Firefly." I’m also grateful that I didn’t have to go through what the original fans did when it first aired and not having to wait for the movie, although I did have to experience the sadness of knowing that this was all there is. I think that this show is a perfect example of why the people in charge of what shows we get exposed to and how we are exposed to them are morons. Thanks for a great reaction.

[@RamblersInc]

I'm definitely glad I didn't have to wait that long either lol

[@anderscarlsson4309]

As this fun ride comes to an end, maybe I can lure you into another Whedon project. This time the show is run by Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen. Both exceptional storytellers and showrunners. The show I'm thinking of is of course, Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It is one hell of a ride with great characters and a lot of humor and action.

[@RamblersInc]

We'll add it to the watchlist. I don't think we've reacted to any superhero movies/shows.

[@Slugbug]

I would love to see these two do S.H.I.E.L.D. What a great series overall. Despite the fact that it deviated from the films the further it goes along, the first two seasons (at least) supplement the Marvel films.

[@JeffKelly03]

Not sure if you guys have seen It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but the guy in the town at the beginning who Mal shoots as a mercy while he's being dragged off by the Reavers is Glenn Howerton, one of the creators and stars of that show. He and Morena Baccarin (aka Inara) dated all through their years together at Juilliard.

[@RamblersInc]

We've not but know who he is (through various memes). Had no idea he had a cameo (or NPH for that matter).

[@becca1189]

My favorite call back... Out of Gas: Jayne -- "We'd have been back 1st, but there's something wrong with Inara's shuttle. She's done something to it, Mal. It smells funny." Inara -- "I told you. That's incense." Jayne -- "So you say." Serenity (film): Inara -- "And that's not incense." BOOM!!! For your own viewing pleasure from KZbin channel Cinema Therapy -- Serenity and Finding Your Purpose (28min), Serenity and Coping with Trauma (25min), Firefly: Teamwork and Found Family (30min) KZbin channel Moosecat Productions "The Reason" Fan MV (4min) ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@RamblersInc]

😂 Jayne's smarter than ew thought. Will check those out. Thanks.

[@trulybtd5396]

I wonder if the operative really had a change of heart. Either he didn't, and just pragmatically realize there is no reason to kill the tams. On the other hand, Maybe he'll become a preacher or something.

[@Otokichi786]

Some years later, two Holy men leave the Abbey and the tale of "Shepherd Early and Jones" begins...

[@RamblersInc]

Now THAT'S a show I'd watch.

[@williamberry9013]

Zoey at funeral wore a slinky dress. (Shindig) Not word of Joss but of Gina Torres (actress who played Zoey) she (Zoey, the character, not the actress) was pregnant. Now for Jayne/River theory. Jayne in pilot said (to lawman) "it's a girl. She's not all there but not all of her has to be." If River is a willing woman, his part is set. In Ariel when she first wakes up she says to Jayne, "Copper for a kiss." When she is going on about Christmas presents everyone ignores her gibberish, except Jayne getting pissed. Those are his memories and for some reason she finds him fascinating. In the bar in the movie he can sneak up on a effing psychic because in a fight he does not think, he just does. When he thinks on the ship, she takes him easily. (That also explains why she couldn't dodge his blow after the butcher knife in Ariel, although that might just be her being nuts.) No accounting for taste and River might be well advised to keep a guy who can sneak up on her loyal to her, and she likes him for some reason.

[@RamblersInc]

That's some good researching because I can never figure out who River likes. Or is it just intrigue?

[@boqndimitrov8693]

"- there is no power in the universe that can stop me!" - River Tam.

[@gailseatonhumbert]

Glad you 2 got to see this it provided closure for the fan base as well. Still it was very sad to see it end. The film was theatrically released September 30, 2005. Serenity was originally released on traditional film prints. The series aired in 2002 and the fan base was not large enough to create a success of the movie so that was the end.😢 Very sad about Wash's death. They do talk about it in the documentary everyone is suggesting you watch for yourselves. It was a fun gem of a sci fi series.

[@RamblersInc]

It's going to remain in my head as the "what if" show.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

1:03 Oh, get on with it... 46:01 They both will! 'cause that's what We all try to...( I hope)

[@RamblersInc]

😂 God. We just don't stop talking crap. 😢 Zoe's been through it.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

I have an idea that Wash's demise and final words are directly linked with his involvement in 'A Knight's Tale' which is a Heath Ledger prelude to 'The Dark Knight'. Jousting...impaled by large wooden projectile? In '...Tale', Paul Bettany plays Jeffrey Chaucer who intro's himself as... "A lily among thorns"!! Bettany has a comedic yet volatile dynamic with Alan Tudyk the entire film. A leaf on the wind, watch how...??

[@RamblersInc]

Damn. I've not seen A Knight's Tale.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

@@RamblersInc worthy watch for laughs

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

Wow, my two favorite (male) Reactors finally made it to this classic hodgepodge of Hollywood hype and gameplaying. Well, where do I begin?? 🤔

[@JAYWALKER1000]

A lot of people saw this first a then looked up the series. Movies are supposed to be assessible for all viewers - otherwise you get lost very easily (see Thr Marvels).

[@anthonyleecollins9319]

Absolutely. I started with the movie and then went back and watched the show. The story was very clear to me all the way through the film.

[@joshuabarnett88]

I also started with the movie, fell in love immediately, without the exposition dumps I might not have enjoyed it

[@RamblersInc]

Fair point.

[@gamesman0118]

I like to believe Zoe was pregnant at the time of the movie.

[@RamblersInc]

🥹

[@ChrisBUK]

Thanks for the review. Glad you guys got to see it. Such a shame this only had such a limited run considering some shit that goes on for 8 seasons or so. This was truly unique 🤷🏼😢

[@TheWalrusAndTheCarpenter]

Discovered your channel watching these Firefly reaction videos. You guys are great to "share" the show with and I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed these videos. However all good things...

[@RamblersInc]

...come to those who wait ? 😂

[@adamcashin4021]

There were plans for two sequels. The actors who played Wash and Book could only sign on for the first film, hence those characters being the ones to die. Sadly the film only just met production costs at the box office. Normally films need to double the production costs at the box office to be officially profitable (I believe marketing is very costly). So no sequel was ever commissioned. This was not a surprise as very few mid budget films actually make a profit. Whilst there was a lot of fan support for a movie, I think it was more a case of Whedon wanted to make the film and Universal wanted to work with Whedon (he was already an Oscar and Emmy nominated writer at the time). The fan support probably helped but I think in the main it was old fashioned Hollywood politics that lead to this being made. The Veronica Mars film on the other hand was entirely funded by the fans through Kick Starter. I'm sure if KS had been around in 2004/5 then maybe we'd have got the sequels as well.

[@RamblersInc]

Yeh I agree. If it was fully fan funded, this movie might have been slightly different as well.

[@bobbuethe1477]

I saw the movie before I saw any episodes of the show, and I wasn't confused at all. I enjoyed it a lot.

[@pleutron]

Great guys. Frelling great. 👍

[@matthewfowler133]

If you haven't already, the blooper reels for both the series and the movie are well worth a watch!

[@corgiluver9718]

Thanks for reacting to Firefly/Serenity, enjoyed your reactions!

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

Oh, and "The Operative" who basically walks away from Parliament at the end... 100% mirror (A.I.) of the same actor's decision at the end of... 'Doctor Strange'. "The bill ALWAYS comes due!"

[@RamblersInc]

Oh yeeeeaaahhhhh. That was him.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

@@RamblersInc that dude's complicated name makes "Benedict Cumberbatch" sound like "John Wick"!

[@RamblersInc]

😂

[@LeeCarlson]

Malcolm Reynold's "superpower" is dogged persistence. He does not know when to give up, so it is impossible to "beat" him. You can kill him but not beat him.

[@RamblersInc]

And we love him for it.

[@sherrysink3177]

Unfortunately, back when this first aired in the theatre, I accidentally came across someone who'd gone to the first showing of it, and they posted about Wash. I immediately clicked out of the post, but I had seen that he was going to die. I didn't see how, or when, or why; I just knew it was going to happen somehow. So my first viewing of the film in the theatre was particularly brutal because I felt on edge the whole time, waiting, anxious, wondering when it was going to happen and hoping that I saw it wrong. I hoped it had been someone's joke that didn't actually happen in the film. I was still devastated when it happened. I think what made me maddest about Wash's death is that it happens so quickly and -- like Mal and Zoe and the crew -- we don't get a single moment to deal with it or mourn. He doesn't get his "moment" like Book did. Instead, he's just gone and there's no time, and that's what's so heartbreaking to me. I just felt so upset and lost about it. (And yeah, all these years later, I'm still not over it either. It still makes me sad. He was one of my favorite characters.) When I first saw the film, I went in with no other expectations, but by the final battle, I wondered if ANYONE was going to survive! Everyone was dead or wounded and in terrible danger, and I just thought, "If they kill everyone off, I'm going to be SO UPSET! I will never watch the film again! I will only acknowledge Firefly the series if that happens!" Even still, after seeing it a few times in the theatre (because I wanted to support the show in hopes that it might do well enough to warrant another movie), it took me a long time to go back to it. I purchased Serenity on DVD but couldn't bring myself to watch it for a long time because the thought of it broke my heart. In time, I've managed to appreciate the film on its own and love many parts of it, and I have rewatched it, but not as often as I rewatch Firefly. I will always be heartbroken over the loss of Book and Wash. And Firefly the series will always be my most favorite - there's so much love and great humor and intensity in it that I rewatch over and over again. Thank you so much for sharing your reactions as you watched the series and the film. You have been true fans and Browncoats. ❤🤎 I hope we get to see your reaction to the Firefly and Serenity gag reels / bloopers because they are SO funny.

[@RamblersInc]

Daaaaaammmmmmnnnn, spoiled it like that? I'd be fuming. That's a good point. There's no time to be sad immediately as we're put straight back into a fight. Hopefully one day...we'll get a another show set in the same universe.

[@TheAes86]

Joss Whedon said everyone had a secret. Rivers was what was shown. Shepherd's (Short answer) was he used to be similar to an operative for the alliance, and Inara's was that she was dying of an illness, which is why she wanted to travel on the ship and see the verse (versus staying at the House or traveling on a cruise ship). Also why she didn't want a relationship, knowing she was going to die. The 1st episode she had a needle and it seemed to imply it was some sort of suicidal pill type device. The "Out of Gas" when Simon said he didn't want to die on the ship, she said "I don't want to die at all." Then since it cancelled and it was just the movie , Joss did away with that story line.

[@RamblersInc]

What's Mal's secret?

[@TheAes86]

@@RamblersInc I don't know. They've never said. Apparently some people seem to think it has to do with his upbringing. Either in how he knew how to dance at the ball being that he was from a wealthy family, or that his mother was a companion. Either way it took 20 yrs for Joss to let Inara's loose. He still wanted to continue the series.

[@TheAes86]

@@RamblersInc A clip from a Con of Morena Baccarin answering kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4XbeIKfbsiijbM

[@RamblersInc]

She got so nervous answering the question 🤣 Poor Morena

[@sherrysink3177]

Zoe: Do you really any of us are going to get through this? Manesh: ....... Yeah? 😬 😆🤣 Great response.

[@RamblersInc]

Wash's death turned that into a question 😭

[@sherrysink3177]

@@RamblersInc 😭😭😭

[@alskjflah]

I didn’t love the secret word that knocked River out. I think that could have been handled better.

[@RamblersInc]

I just googled the translation. Yeh....I'm not crazy about it either 🫤

[@gingerbill128]

It was a lot of fun watching this again with you guys. In a way it's good theirs no season 2 as it can stay perfect in our heads.

[@RamblersInc]

I keep telling myself that too 😔

[@VerMaarte]

Releasing a movie only as fanservice would have been a financial disaster in this case. The fanbase of the show wasn't big (but very fanatic and vocal though) because of the way they were treated by Fox. So they had to make it like a stand-alone to get a return on the costs. They had, in case of overwhelming succes, in mind to maybe continue the series. But in that case Alan Tudyk (Wash) couldn't commit so he got a heroes' death.

[@RamblersInc]

Fair point. I wasn't thinking about the cost and recoup aspect of making a movie. They'd need to try to get new viewers into it.

[@dboss7239]

Both the series and the movie are simply excellent. Nathan Fillion went on to star in 2 TV series afterward. Successful ones. He did "Castle" on ABC for 8 or9 seasons and they paid tribute to Firefly many times, including Nathan having Firefly actors do guest stars on Castle. Here is a tribute to Firefly by Nathan as Castle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJKqq6yOiqykmcU ( Space Cowboy | Castle | TNT )

[@somthingbrutal]

first time watching this i did start to wonder if they were going for the full Blake's Seven ending

[@houghi3826]

The explanation had to be done, because you saw it a week after the series. Fans had to wait years. So some reminders were needed.

[@RamblersInc]

That's a fair point.

[@ernesthakey3396]

Minor retcon for the movie, Simon got River out, rather than hiring folks to get her out and ship her to him in a cryogenic unit. I'll allow it. 😊 Mal is more irritable and snippy now, because the two people he could talk to about stuff, that were not in his chain of command, Book and Inara, are off the ship. Both had counseling skills, and Mal could talk about anything with one or the other of them.

[@RamblersInc]

Yeh we got Episode 1 Mal in this.

[@sherrysink3177]

Wash: I think we need to talk to Mr. Universe. Manesh: Hmm? Shyam: The... body-building.... winner? Me: 😆🤣

[@RamblersInc]

🤣🤦‍♂️

[@somthingbrutal]

there is an official comic series that has more tales from the universe

[@DocMicrowave]

I always though that Summer Glau's performance in Firefly and Serenity probably put her on the short list to play a terminator in The Sara Connor Chronicles.

[@RamblersInc]

I wouldn't be surprised. There's a similarity.

[@SciFiCatGuy]

It was the fans, but it was also Jos Weden using the clout he accumulated from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel to get it done.

[@RoGueNavy]

Kaylee's not too good with a gun, but she's absolutely lethal with a well-aimed verbal barb.

[@RamblersInc]

Right? 😂

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

Dude was trying to find the word for Simon freeing River..."Infiltrate"??

[@RamblersInc]

That's the one.

[@voiceover2191]

The flaw to me in the whole Reaver concept is, when they are pure rage, how can they ever be capable of flying huge complicated spaceships and do coordinated attacks, even wield weapons for that matter, never made sense to me.

[@RamblersInc]

🤔 yeeaaaahhhhhh. Now that you mention it, they'd have to turn the rage on and off to do a lot of normal tasks. Or.....there are probably a lot of crashes and short lifespans.

[@donny-ni2zd]

Like how Reavers were reinterpreted old tales white settlers would tell each other about Native Americans or Africans during colonization. Also the more real version of Zombies like in 28 Days Later. My theory anyway.

[@paulcurlin2789]

22:27 TRAP!!!

[@RamblersInc]

😂

[@Otokichi786]

"Serenity" (the movie): You have reached the official end of the Browncoat Trail. But, there are bloopers and print media that can answer some questions about the-outside-the-Alliance 'Verse. Time to join Escape Key and sing the complete "Firefly" anthem: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWbHq6OGoal4rcU if withdrawal pains are setting in, on to "Rogue 1" (2016), or for something completely different, from the same year, "Train To Busan."

[@RamblersInc]

We've added Rogue 1 to the watchlist. I might have to prepare Shyam when it comes to watching Train to Busan as the description says Zombie movie 😂

[@Otokichi786]

@@RamblersInc "Train To busan" should come with a warning. "Danger! Emotional Roller Coaster Ahead!";) (It is much more than just a "Zombie" movie.;)

[@stgermain1074]

The thing is, once you kill Wash, the whole rest of the movie, every other character's life seems truly in danger. If they'll kill off someone as innocuous and loveable as Wash, who else will Joss kill? You guys, during the firefight scene, thought it plausible that they'd all die. Without Wash's death, your mind would keep thinking, "oh, they'll get out of it somehow."

[@RamblersInc]

Yep. We never had that kind of jeopardy in the show.

[@sean-ew2qv]

Dennis Reynolds sighting!

[@RamblersInc]

The guy from It's Always Sunny?

[@bcsr4ever]

I saw the film first, so it worked well.

[@kevinjohnson613]

Its really hard to see. Even if you pause the movie. But when Inara calls for help. Mal is laying facedown on his bunk and you can see the scar on his lower right side. The lighting is just a little too dark.

[@RamblersInc]

Ooooh good catch.

[@wynnyx7071]

Per the comics, Chloe was pregnant with Wash's child.

[@RamblersInc]

🥹

[@seraphuziel]

So, Joss killed (at least the main cast) anyone that could not commit to future rolls. Since disney doesn't own this movie, so they plan to ignore it fully (in typical disney fashion). disney plans to reboot/continue the series minus companions. :/

[@RamblersInc]

Disney? Rebooting? Uh oh

[@johncampbell756]

The movie happened because of fan demand and DVD sales. Unfortunately, the fans were pretty much the only ones who paid to see it and the sequels Joss hoped for died. The only way I am able to like this film is to thinknof it as an alternate universe. I can then ignore the complete rewrite of River's rescue, the tension between Mal and Simon, and a few other things. Plus, I can think the Wash from the show is stillbalive. It was at thar moment that I no longer cared to watch any sequels. River was at least 16 on the show, so the movie is set closely to the show, but the alternate universe theory that I may be alone on, explains that.

[@RamblersInc]

lol enter the Firefly multiverse.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

Connectivity 101: Full Metal Jacket. The Lost Boys. Logan. Just to name a few...😎

[@RamblersInc]

You're gonna have to give us more than that 😂 How are they connected?

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

@@RamblersInc It's important that you keep in-mind it was not more than a few yrs ago and for the last 4+ decades...I was a fan. NONE of what I share about movies can be found anywhere (by my account). You are the ONLY channel hosts to take my words this seriously and to give me this much of your time. Thank you. 💯 I will return this morning with a breakdown.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

@@RamblersInc out of respect for your livelihood, I need your 'green light' to "Spoil" with enough info to understand without ruining entire storylines. I will always offer a warning but if you'd prefer I steer clear of a particular film for the sake of your operation...let me know.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

@@RamblersInc ’FMJ': See Adam Baldwin (Jayne) as "Animal-Mother", in-particular his relationship with a young Vietnamese girl in the final act. "Shoot me!". Fast Forward (Serenity) to his third act interacting with another young girl (trained to kill) who at one point begs for a "bullet in the brainpan!". Oh, and the Serenity topic of leaving men behind "in a time of war", is a parallel of Baldwin's character in FMJ regarding his teammates. Just small morsels there. Trust me, it gets way deeper surrounding Baldwin.

[@JayStar-yj9pu]

@@RamblersInc The Lost Boys: I was stoned one night watching a vid about CERN when this Abstract Inversion opened up in front of me (unrelated). The twin brothers (Serenity) named Fanty and Mingo are mirrors of two LB characters called the Frog Brothers. During their LB intro, they warn a new resident (Corey Haim) about vampires and offer him a comic book to prepare. So, I just HAD to pose this Q regarding the "Oaty Bar" subliminal advertising River watched as the brothers were WARNING Mal and Jayne... Since when does an Octopus have such menacing TEETH? Abstract Inversion requires the comparison of every scene/sequence one can remember before the necessary REVER-sal of details. Example: Serenity...30 million residents of 'Miranda' all just lay down and died. Right?? In LB, when his grandson asks about murder in their new hometown, longtime resident "Grandpa" responds with: "If all the corpses that are buried around here were to stand up all at once... we'd have one helluva population problem!" 🤔 Oh yeah, Octopus...Vampire?? They both SUCK.

[@doug3691]

If Serenity did big enough numbers at the box office another movie would've been made, or maybe more TV. But alas, not quite. Question: If no one died in this one would the movie have been more enjoyable overall, been a bigger success, even though possibly less dark and intense? Also, how does Simon, after around a year has passed, not forget a "safe word" like that?

[@RamblersInc]

Movie logic I guess.

[@feudist]

There's a minor BTVS/ Firefly fan theory that River is the reactivation of the line of Slayers. River the Reaver Slayer.

[@RamblersInc]

lol it actually works as a theory as well.

[@shuriken4852]

You should react to Comi-Con panels for Firefly, they are hilarious.

[@somthingbrutal]

did you spot the Neil Patrick Harris cameo

[@RamblersInc]

Nope. I had to go back to check it out. That's GREAT makeup 😂.