MOVIE REACTION Serenity (2005) First Time Watching Reaction/Review

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@patrickhahn5832
@patrickhahn5832 8 ай бұрын
"The Movie Database" does list Neil Patrick Harris in the cast as "Screaming Reaver (uncredited)"
@BKPrice
@BKPrice 8 ай бұрын
I thought that was him.
@tracycampbell4526
@tracycampbell4526 8 ай бұрын
I always thought that looked like NPH, but never dug into it.
@daerdevvyl4314
@daerdevvyl4314 8 ай бұрын
That would be a great name for a metal band.
@readMEinkbooks
@readMEinkbooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to have to watch the movie again just to see that! (Any excuse to watch Serenity really.)
@whoarocket
@whoarocket 7 ай бұрын
I had never known anything about that until this moment. That is incredible!
@mrwomby5007
@mrwomby5007 8 ай бұрын
I love how Jayne slides the bottle across the table to Simon, signifying that he finally accepts him as part of the crew.
@Rubicon2305
@Rubicon2305 8 ай бұрын
When it cut back to River fighting the Reavers, you saw a Reaver rise up in slo-mo and "roar"... that was in fact Neil Patrick Harris, who Joss Whedon originally wanted to play Simon Tam but couldn't due to other commitments. When the chance to get in on an uncredited cameo in the movie came up, Harris jumped at it. Also, when the Operative gave the order to "stand down" and all the Alliance troops lowered their guns in unison, that actually was when the director yelled "cut" for that scene and all the extras just relaxed and the camera was still running and they liked it so much they kept it in. Lastly, back in the street scene, when River was talking seemingly jibberish and Jayne stated she was damaging his calm and went on about how everyone was dead for no reason... as the camera was spinning during his monologue, from one member of the crew to the other, the moment he said "they died for no apparent reason" it stopped on Wash - to which, shortly thereafter, for seemingly no good reason (and much to the collective gasp and wails of theaters full of Browncoats) Wash was abruptly and unceremoniously killed, with no time to react or mourn. Barely any time to process what just happened and for what reason Whedon opted to do it. Some have speculated that Alan Tudyk was unable to commit to another movie or show (should this movie do well enough to green light them) so he and Whedon agreed to kill off the character. I also read an article sometime after the movie's release wherein an insider spoke of the friction between the Fox execs and Whedon during the original show and how, even still, they were adamant about killing the show but also NOT releasing the rights... AND these same people had been applying pressure to Whedon during the shows running to manufacture a love triangle between Wash, Zoe and Mal and Whedon flat refused. His stance was that Wash and Zoe were to have a happy, healthy, dedicated and loyal marriage and he allegedly told them "I will kill one of them off before I let you ruin this marriage." So, after Serenity, not knowing if the show would be brought back by Fox (since they had control) but without him, and fearing what they might do, Whedon ensured they would not tarnish that union.
@kimberlyjeanne9456
@kimberlyjeanne9456 2 ай бұрын
Stupid studios. Even with the success of Buffy they couldn't just let him do the show/movie the way he wanted. Idiots
@LadyBeyondTheWall
@LadyBeyondTheWall 8 ай бұрын
😂 That IS Neil Patrick Harris! I've seen this so many times and never, ever noticed that. That's cool he got to play a reaver and awesome that you even noticed it without having read about it first anywhere. I don't think I would have ever noticed.
@BigGator5
@BigGator5 8 ай бұрын
"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar." Fun Fact: Theatrical movie debut of Summer Glau. Gun Enthusiast Fact: The cannon the crew mounts to Serenity is a WW2 German 20mm Flak 38. Basic Training Fact: Summer Glau trained intensely with the fight choreographers for three months before principal photography began. Rebuilding Serenity Fact: According to Nathan Fillion, he personally supplied the blueprints used to build the ship set in the film after being informed at a production meeting that the originals had been lost. He was able to do so because, being so excited about being in the original show, he had taken photos of ALL the preproduction materials he had seen, including the blueprints.
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 8 ай бұрын
I've met Summer Glau. I've got a video about it here at kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn6Uh31pZZ6VZrM Such a wonderful actress and a lovely person. Her acting at 31:36 was incredible.
@Muck006
@Muck006 7 ай бұрын
a) Engineering fact: the ship is still TERRIBLY DESIGNED (all those ladders and walkways are useful for what? The cargo room only has a "garage room door", so filling that high cargo space through that small hole isnt going to work. They COULD HAVE done it much better ... even with that "general design". b) Physics / common knowledge fact: Summer Glau training is commendable, but she would not have been able to beat up all the reavers/bar patrons in the fight, because her MASS is small and thus the IMPACT ON LARGER MASSES is not as shown in the movie ... c) Material science fact: Teflon was invented "for space", because there is this nasty little problem of "two metal surfaces rubbing on each other = the oxide layer on both of them gets removed and they FUSE TOGETHER, thus eliminating any moveability". That gun would not have been able to turn much in space, because it was designed for "in atmosphere use".
@BigGator5
@BigGator5 7 ай бұрын
Muck006 ...While I appreciate your enthusiastic reality check here, I'm more concerned with the filmmaking aspects. Most sci-fi doesn't make sense, thus the FICTION part. Go in Peace and Walk with God. 😎 👍
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 8 ай бұрын
It just occurred to me, that the Operative actually gave Mal his crazy idea. He said, "You're not a Reaver, Mal." And Mal realized he wasn't - but he could pretend to be...and he ended the conversation to get started on his new plan. One of my favorite bits is when Mal gives his "I aim to misbehave" speech, and Jayne is first to sign on. He takes a drink, quotes Shepherd Book (whom he really respected), and passed his drink to Simon - for the first time really treating him like a comrade in arms. The whole crew is united. Zoe's "she's tore up plenty, but she'll fly true" isn't just about Serenity - it's about herself. She's compartmentalized Wash's death, and will live her life, honoring his memory but going on, there are still people she cares about.
@dalesharp9953
@dalesharp9953 8 ай бұрын
Great reactions. The Miranda storyline was supposed to be revealed at the end of season 2. Book's death was helped gain a belief in something. Wasn't death was to show how deadly this mission was. It has been said that Ron and Alan were unable to commit to additional possible movies. There are comic books/graphic novel to continue the story and reveal back stories. Book's back story is in A Shepherd's Tale. There is also novels/audio books that tell more stories. The time frame is between the show and the movie. Inara had a secret. She was dying. It is unfortunately we never got the chance to explore that storyline.
@LeeCarlson
@LeeCarlson 8 ай бұрын
When the images just popped up in River's mind, at random, they were sensory hallucinations that made her crazy. Once she saw the actual record she was able to put the images into perspective and realize that she was not crazy.
@augustcanyon3438
@augustcanyon3438 8 ай бұрын
Summer Glau is such an underrated actress.
@dudermcdudeface3674
@dudermcdudeface3674 8 ай бұрын
Also great in The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 8 ай бұрын
When Joss Whedon got the go ahead to do the movie he was hoping there would be sequels. He asked the cast if they could do more movies. Alan Tudyk and Ron Glass said they had other commitments and could only do the one movie. Shepherd Book and Wash had to die. It's really a shame that so few reactors buy the DVDs and find out the hundreds of back stories that most Browncoats know. Book's life story is told in a hard bound comic called "A Shepherd's Tale" by Joss Whedon. He came from a broken family and had a very tough life in the ghetto and was never an operative. He was a high ranking Alliance Officer and was spying for the Browncoats.
@RoGueNavy
@RoGueNavy 8 ай бұрын
I saw this in the theater, on the night of the premiere. When Derrial Book died, the theater was silent, aside from a few stifled sobs from audience members. When Hoban Washburn got killed, the whole crowd roared in outrage.
@TheAlmaward
@TheAlmaward 8 ай бұрын
Re: the switch that flipped in River - if you recall, the doctor from the Academy said that the "neural stripping affects their reality." River had these extra memories she'd gained from reading members of Parliament, and, due to the neural stripping, she didn't have the ability to tell her own memories from the extra ones, and that's what was making her crazy. But once they saw the message from the recording, she was able to put it all in context, and it snapped her back to sanity.
@izzardclips9350
@izzardclips9350 8 ай бұрын
Well, hypothetically speaking, a human brain doesn't have a mechanism of telling you "this memory isn't mine." If it were possible to implant another person's memories there, context is the only way to determine if they are your own. I don't think River is incapable of understanding which memories are foreign (for the most part), using the context of her own life history. But the neural stripping forces her to feel them as if they were.
@fieryangel522
@fieryangel522 8 ай бұрын
I've heard before, and truly believe, that the point of killing Wash ( such a beloved character) in such a random way was to make you feel like the whole crew Could Die in that fight. Because technically, you could have had a satisfying ending where they all got the word out, but died in that effort. Wash's death makes that (tragic) possibility more plausible. I Love this movie and I loved your reaction. It's been a fun ride with you guys.
@eschatological
@eschatological 8 ай бұрын
I think the shift in Mal's tone makes sense considering Book and Inara's departures. Book, as much as Mal disliked it and never accepted it, was his moral grounding. And Inara was someone he loved, and her leaving is like losing a loved one.
@oscardiggs246
@oscardiggs246 8 ай бұрын
When Earth got used up, Santa had to find a new job. His elves were immortal, so Bernard had a lot of time on his hands. He upgraded his crystal ball to a bunch of video screens and changed his name.
@3Kings_Industries
@3Kings_Industries 8 ай бұрын
Cant stop the signal. That shot on Miranda, with Mal talking to the crew,.with that heavenly light illuminating Mal's call to arms from his crew, it's always inspiring. Also, "Leaf on the wind...."
@anthonyleecollins9319
@anthonyleecollins9319 8 ай бұрын
I think River says, "I'm okay," after they watch the video because she knows now that all the terrible things in her mind are reality -- they're not some terrible nightmare that she conjured up by herself. As she says earlier, it's not hers, and she shouldn't have to carry it. She can understand the memories now, and why she has them, and start to work toward healing.
@calebault8077
@calebault8077 7 ай бұрын
She used to understand; now she comprehends
@isaackellogg3493
@isaackellogg3493 7 ай бұрын
@@calebault8077well, I’m glad we made that distinction.
@Kavala76
@Kavala76 6 ай бұрын
The Operative was a believer. Shepperd Book was a believer. Had Book once been an operator, all he would need to do is change the focus of his belief.
@becca1189
@becca1189 8 ай бұрын
Out of Gas: Jayne -- "We'd have been back 1st, but there's something wrong with Inara's shuttle. She's done something to it, Mal. It smells funny." Inara -- "I told you. It's incense." Jayne -- "So you say." Serenity (film): Inara -- "And that's not incense." Recommendations for your personal viewing pleasure: from KZbin channel Cinema Therapy -- Serenity and Finding Your Purpose (28min), Serenity and Coping with Trauma (25min), Firefly: Teamwork and Found Family (30min) ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 8 ай бұрын
Becca! We meet again, mysterious commenter on the Firefly and other universes! 😉
@kiarya7939
@kiarya7939 8 ай бұрын
“I never felt the real impact of how scary those can be…” oh my sweet summer child, this is going to be a wild ride for you 😅
@kiarya7939
@kiarya7939 8 ай бұрын
This is going to be great. This is going to be painful. This is going to be hilarious. This is going to be tragic. Thank you so so much for you guys doing this show on the channel! It’s been a great ride, and we’re ALWAYS happy to add another browncoat to the crew ❤
@stuartrobertson5689
@stuartrobertson5689 8 ай бұрын
After multiple rewatches of both the show & the movie I've just realised something...! The overall story is bookended (not Book ended😢) by a loss of Faith. The pilot 'Serenity' opens with Mal losing his faith in both religion & authority when his superiors make the decision to pull out of Serenity Valley &, at the end of the movie 'Serenity' The Operative loses his faith in The Alliance when he's shown what they created in their plan to build a 'better world'! Probably not intentional... just found it interesting!
@happyslapsgiving5421
@happyslapsgiving5421 8 ай бұрын
They had no intention whatsoever to kill Simon here, and he was vital to at least one planned future storyline. They killed Book and Wash because the actors wouldn't have been available for an eventual sequel, while everyone else was.
@sherrysink3177
@sherrysink3177 8 ай бұрын
We need you to react to the Firefly and Serenity bloopers! They're so much fun. P.S. Wash getting killed gutted me when I saw it, and always hurts. He's one of my favorites, so that was a hugely painful death. I get it from a storytelling perspective, but it will always always be a gut punch to me. Oh, what could have been... P.S. When you started talking about Reavers at the beginning before watching the movie, I started saying to my TV screen, "ZIP IT! DON'T TELL HIM ANYTHING! DON'T LET HIM EVEN ANTICIPATE!" 😆🤣 Lol.
@mrtveye6682
@mrtveye6682 8 ай бұрын
Firefly has such great antagonists. I always get the feeling the Operative could be the "sane brother" of Jubal Early. They both are very determined to get their job done and do what's needed without just being straight out "evil". And they both follow their own inner believes and logic, as wrong or weird those might be.
@chromaticcactus
@chromaticcactus 8 ай бұрын
I saw this movie without ever knowing about the show - I was interested solely on the TV spots. My best friend and I went to see this on opening weekend in what turned out to be a theater full of browncoats, and I'll never forget the cheer when those blast doors opened to show river surrounded by dead reavers
@zatornagirroc7175
@zatornagirroc7175 8 ай бұрын
I love this movie and show - thanks so much for letting me come along for this ride. This does have a darker tone, but you have to remember that every crew member influenced Mal's direction. After Book and Inara left, he has no spiritual rudder left, so he became even more focused on survival things and less on morally right things - which leads to Book's last lines to him. So many good moments, and the show and the movie both just get deeper each time you watch them - there is just a ton of layers to this. One of the best lines that never get mentioned was Mr. Universe's line after betraying the crew and just before dying was "gimme my 30 coin". There is a parallel here because 30 pieces of silver was what Judas was paid to betray Jesus. I can almost guarantee that Mr. Universe was not getting 30 pieces of anything - we have seen paper money, and I am sure there are electronic transfers, so I think that was a metaphor that he knew how much he betrayed the crew and who he was betraying them to. There can be more things spun off of this, but it sure makes a person think. Which is why I love this show and movie. It makes you think. It is not passive entertainment or a fun story. It is Science Fiction at it's very, very best.
@kevinstanton5998
@kevinstanton5998 8 ай бұрын
I love when the assassin says there are innocent people dying, and mal says you have no idea how true that is.... becasue the assassin is talking about his men, mal is talking about the reavers. Because the reavers were innocent until the alience changed them with the pax
@oscardiggs246
@oscardiggs246 8 ай бұрын
I just realized this recently after nearly 20 years. Love this whole story.
@sharkdentures3247
@sharkdentures3247 8 ай бұрын
FINALLY! Someone actually acknowledged that Mal's "quick draw" is a "hip shot"! Everyone else always whines, "Why didn't he shoot him in the head?"! It's like, he is going for SPEED over precision. (aka hit them BEFORE they can hit you) It's all he can do to HIT his target at ALL! (much less aim for a specific part)
@kevincachia1977
@kevincachia1977 8 ай бұрын
I'll just add...HOLY !!! I must have watched this a dozen times at least, but never knew that was a known actor playing that Reaver. OMG! Thanks for pointing that out.
@crashtesteryo
@crashtesteryo 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone said yet or not but you have GOT to watch all the outtakes from the show and movie.
@redmoonbloodmoon3161
@redmoonbloodmoon3161 8 ай бұрын
probably the 3 most iconic actors to that of their character roles: 1. Blade is Wesley Snipes, and, Wesley Snipes is Blade 2. River Tam is Summer Glau 3. Alita is Rosa Salazar
@TrishaTerrett-po3th
@TrishaTerrett-po3th 8 ай бұрын
I believe the Operative fell on his sword. He told Mal he would never see him again. And he failed. That's what you do when you fail.
@LeeCarlson
@LeeCarlson 8 ай бұрын
We have seen since Episode One that Malcolm Reynolds does not have the sense to know when to quit, and THAT is his superpower.
@RetroRobotRadio
@RetroRobotRadio 8 ай бұрын
The Unification War is an analogy for the American Civil War. Many bad things were done, but the history books all say it was necessary and good.
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 8 ай бұрын
It's true. And the winners write the history books. And sometimes, the losers want to whitewash the history too. It did start to put an end to a pretty ugly part of America's history, but we're still dealing with issues that stem from that era.
@KDDenman
@KDDenman 8 ай бұрын
The set in the show was a complete ship just like the movie.
@ethenallen1388
@ethenallen1388 25 күн бұрын
What made the Operative so dangerous was his belief that he was doing God's work and any atrocities committed to that end were acceptable. Mel destroyed that belief by forcing him to watch the recording from Miranda. He didn't just issue a stand down order; he provided the resources Serenity's crew need to repair her because he was forced to admit that they were the righteous ones.
@larrystuder6378
@larrystuder6378 8 ай бұрын
During post-production on this, there were rumors that Joss was so upset with studio demands, and tired of their meddling, that he decided to kill the entire crew, to put them out of their misery, so the studios couldn't f##k with them anymore. Somewhere about the time Simon gets wounded, everybody starts to believe it could be true.
@nitpicker42
@nitpicker42 8 ай бұрын
For each of the show and the movie, Serenity was built as two individual levels of contiguous set. The apparent "one-shot" introduction scene in the film was actually two shots with a hidden transition as Mal and Simon cross the top landing of the stairwell down to the bottom level - it cuts after Mal says "Y'all are guests on my boat" and before Simon replies "Guests!? I've *earned* my passage..."
@RetroRobotRadio
@RetroRobotRadio 8 ай бұрын
The Unification War is an analogy for the American Civil War. Many bad things were done, but the history books all say it was necessary and good. Just as the Alliance says the was all good and necessary.
@sirmoonslosthismind
@sirmoonslosthismind 8 ай бұрын
the important distinction is that the *alliance* is the pro-slavery side, and slavery most certainly did not "die out on its own" afterwards. the real civil war *was* if not entirely good, entirely necessary.
@Skye_Writer
@Skye_Writer 8 ай бұрын
Actually, no...the TV set and the movie set were both created the same way. Even though each of the upper and lower parts of the ship sets were designed and built contiguously, it was not possible to build one set on top of the other. This meant that they had to be built side-by-side, making a hidden cut necessary in order to give viewers an unbroken introduction to the crew and the ship. You’ll notice that when Mal and Simon are having their walk and talk, they head down a corridor, where the camera does a quick pan to Simon. In order to make this transition as smooth as possible, the same hallway where the cut takes place was actually built on both sets. Whedon came up with the idea of building each deck of Serenity as a contiguous set, so that he could establish the size of the spaceship, and film scenes where the actors could be followed as they moved around the ship. The two sets were built on separate sound stages to make second unit filming possible. The sets were built with all walls and ceilings, but designed so that walls, ceilings, and large objects could be moved to facilitate filming. In fact, by the time they got to the movie, Joss was so familiar with the set that he even added it in to the script where and when a large wall needed to be removed for the opening shot of the crew on the ship. The crew quarters _were_ built separately from the main sets since, as stated before, they could not build a set below another one. So all the interior quarters were always separate, and the cargo bay airlock was designed so it could be removed from the rest of the set and transported to other locations. This allowed it to be 'docked' with sets representing other ships or to be placed on location, allowing for continuous filming from inside the airlock through to the other set or location, while avoiding the need to intercut between location and soundstage filming. But they did this for movie and the tv episodes. Of the changes made to the film set, the only real differences were: 1- the digital model for the ship was re-used from the series, but as it was created for standard-definition television, the level of texture and detail had to be significantly increased to the 2K digital cinema definition standard. 2 - the interior cargo bay walls were changed from straight to slightly curved sides-designer Tim Earls had learned that rounded surfaces are better for containing pressure.
@kevinjohnson613
@kevinjohnson613 8 ай бұрын
It's not over. Firefly is never over. You can't stop the signal. Also, you need to do a reaction of the blooper and gag reels. It's actually kinda cathartic for your soul.
@sandorfalusi3486
@sandorfalusi3486 5 ай бұрын
Book and Wash dying was because the studio execs wanted long term contracts for possible sequels, and Ron Glass couldn't sign long term because of his health, and Alan Tudyk was already in a longer contract elsewhere so he couldn't sign because of that. Also, here's my best worst Firefly joke: How do the reavers clean their spears? They put it through the wash. I'll see myself out, and head on straight to hell where I belong.
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 8 ай бұрын
54:53 To me, it's less that he specifically concludes that the Alliance isn't making the world better, it's like Mal said "they'll come back around to the idea that they can make. People. Better. And I do not hold to that." There is no way to force people to be better that doesn't force those attempting it to be worse. You can't just use a monster without becoming one, which defeats the goal right from the start.
@elvwood
@elvwood 8 ай бұрын
In the memorial scene you said "Mr Universe, Book, Wash"; but don't forget the fourth fallen character, memorialised by River... Serenity. The movie came to Sheffield the day my mother died. My wife got the news and decided to put off telling me so I could enjoy the movie, but we couldn't get in, and I wondered why she was quite so upset since we could go later in the week. Once I knew I really appreciated the thought, even though it hadn't worked out! As you can imagine watching this was quite hard-hitting. (And I recently realised it's now 100 years since my mum's two-year-old twin sister died - that makes me feel old!) I've enjoyed this journey with you both - Nate, don't miss the extras and DVD commentaries, they're definitely worth it! If you don't want to do all of them at least do _Out_ _of_ _Gas_ and the movie.
@Reedstilt
@Reedstilt 8 ай бұрын
Secret planet! Secret planet! Through the reavers! Secret, secret, secret, secret planet, yeah!
@RetroRobotRadio
@RetroRobotRadio 8 ай бұрын
The character of Mr Universe appeared a comic book story. He was an old friend of Wash who owed him a favor.
@voiceover2191
@voiceover2191 8 ай бұрын
A leaf on the wind is a leaf that is dying.
@treystone9464
@treystone9464 8 ай бұрын
50:00 They killed Book and Wash because they couldn't commit to come back to the show. The show could now be able to proceed without them. The kills were unceremonious, but the effect was once Book then Wash were confirmed dead, when the rest started dropping, it made you feel maybe they were all going to sacrifice themselves. Rumor is Disney owns Firefly, and they were teasing a reboot by featuring a Firefly easter egg in The Mandolorian.
@jamestate5059
@jamestate5059 8 ай бұрын
Notice the video playing that activated River was also playing in the bank where the heist took place but the screen was shot before it could activate River
@swanniee1359
@swanniee1359 8 ай бұрын
And at the end, Zoe wears a slinky dress for Wash. 😢
@broodhunter21
@broodhunter21 8 ай бұрын
I saw this in the theater several times when it came out. When Wash dies, the theater became a huge gasp everytime it happened.
@Garryck-1
@Garryck-1 8 ай бұрын
Nate: "That would be the *best* possible subject for a Firefly movie that I can think of..." Me: "Be careful what you wish for..."
@mskain4896
@mskain4896 8 ай бұрын
The main promise of the movie's studio was that, if it did well enough, they'd greenlight two additional movies to continue the story rather than revive the series. However, the actors had to commit to those films. Ron Glass and Alan Tudyk had other commitments and couldn't guarantee they'd be around for the next two movies had they happened, and so Joss Whedon opted to kill them off in this movie rather than leave uncertainty and have them written out between movies. He made good use of the deaths, particularly in making it feel like he could possibly kill everyone in the reaver battle or at least one or two more, but there wasn't any other particularly deep reason behind the deaths, i.e. tying into possible deaths over the course of the series. I think Whedon would have killed off characters only if they were done with the show and wanted/needed out if it had gone all seven or so seasons, up until the final season at least.
@randybliss6480
@randybliss6480 8 ай бұрын
Great catch on Neil Patrick Harris. I think you're the first ones to comment on it. Plus I had never heard before that Joss wanted him for Simon. Learned new things about the movie - nearly two decades later! There are continuation comics and novels. The Shepherd's Tale will reveal much about Book's backstory. And I think there is one with the outcome of the Operative.
@readMEinkbooks
@readMEinkbooks 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad he didn't play Simon. He's a good actor but he wouldn't have been right for Simon. Our Simon was the right choice.
@PaNDaSNiP3R
@PaNDaSNiP3R 7 ай бұрын
There was room on that vehicle for that guy mal pushed away then shot.
@tagteamchampions
@tagteamchampions 7 ай бұрын
But it's the same as Jayne in Jaynestown ep where he had to throw his partner off to save weight. They were already heavy with goods and slow.
@MrZeek1519
@MrZeek1519 8 ай бұрын
I have always wondered why the "Screaming Reaver" had a slow-motion moment. And I always wondered who it was as he looked so familiar, but the makeup made it hard for me to figure out. So now I know... NPH himself. How fitting. Thank you for pointing that out.
@maryavatar
@maryavatar 8 ай бұрын
I got to go to an advance screening - Serenity crashing was still just wireframes, and then it flicked back to finished and then Wash died. As it was only the second advance screening, not a single person in the audience was spoiled and we all gasped in shock. I then got to go to the first post Premiere showing, and took my sister, as it was her birthday. I’d not spoiled her, and she flat out screamed in horror at that point.
@BrendonChase_2015
@BrendonChase_2015 8 ай бұрын
Yup 49:13, I sorta kinda side with the "don't like/compared to". OTOH, had I only seen the movie (w/o ever watching the series at all), the "en passant" killing off of Wash would just have been odd/shock value crude or whatever, instead of downright unacceptable. So for me it's not simply the shift in tone, but really & specifically the way our pilot was thrown tt wind AND right after that, the fact there's not a millisecond to process his hurried & undignified death. As tt "yes, but it's a movie" thing, yeah.. so very true. All's perfectly understandable with that mantra. Doesn't go to any length tho, to make me like the movie more, AFTER I got to live/love this once in a lifetime series, which was one of the very few really shiny things in popular entertainment to come out of the US in post-modern times. Ty guys for your truly engrossing & fun ride aboard Serenity. Cheers from Amsterdam!
@russellwood8750
@russellwood8750 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Doogie Houser was the screaming Reaver. In fact, he was actually considered for the role of Dr. Simon Tam.
@sirmoonslosthismind
@sirmoonslosthismind 8 ай бұрын
i do love that the operative calls mal on his gish galloping. *someone* needed to.
@LeeCarlson
@LeeCarlson 8 ай бұрын
When the hatch opens, River is holding a sword and a hunga-munga which is a Hindu throwing weapon.
@kirkdarling4120
@kirkdarling4120 8 ай бұрын
At this point, you realize the poster behind you of River is a mild spoiler. Summer Glau later appeared with David Strathairn (Ashford, The Expanse) on the 2-season series Alphas on SyFy. "I am to misbehave."
@LeeCarlson
@LeeCarlson 8 ай бұрын
River is always giving Simon the look that says "My brother is too stupid to live."
@anthonyleecollins9319
@anthonyleecollins9319 8 ай бұрын
He takes so much looking after. 🙂
@gradybridges
@gradybridges 8 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this at a preview screening months before the release. Electric experience. They did cut some things out like the fight with Mal and the operative, They showed Mal getting stabbed and it was brutal. We thought everyone was going to die. *The Fight with the Reavers/River was also longer and more brutal. **Summer Glau was at the screening in Chicago and she signed autographs for everyone.
@gusswier3952
@gusswier3952 Ай бұрын
Nice posters!
@jameshitt3263
@jameshitt3263 8 ай бұрын
I think the dark tone is fine overall, and it's a perfectly valid context to explore; fallen on hard times, desperation, etc... But I do take issue specifically with the way Mal talks about Simon and River at the beginning. Simon (and now apparently River too) are officially members of the crew; and he might be gruff and tough with them, but he wouldn't speak to so callously to his crew like that (with respect to their standing and basic safety).
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 8 ай бұрын
Remember that the movie, "Serenity" was going to be seen by people who hadn't seen the "Firefly" series. So a bit of sturm und drang with Simon was necessary.
@gregweatherup9596
@gregweatherup9596 8 ай бұрын
Is it easy to take those portraits down off the wall? If so you missed a great opportunity: when Book dies, take his down and hand it to him. When Wash dies take his down and hand it to him. Then when River gets dragged away take hers down and hand it to him as well. Your friend will then be expecting both Zoë & Mal to die before the end.
@willmacarter9034
@willmacarter9034 8 ай бұрын
Neil Patrick Harris- entirely possible, however every time I see that moment, my mind goes straight to Burly the Troll from The 10th Kingdom (the oldest of the three troll kids) with dirt and blood on him.
@jasont2986
@jasont2986 8 ай бұрын
River definitely knew beforehand that the Operative would call off the troops.
@AndreaMGC
@AndreaMGC 8 ай бұрын
You put the Wash poster in the middle 😭😭😭 Also... I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT WAS NPR!!!! I fricken knew it! I'm so glad you said it bc I felt crazy
@3Kings_Industries
@3Kings_Industries 8 ай бұрын
That's not an axe, that's half of the Slayer's holy weapon.
@charlesmartinjr3971
@charlesmartinjr3971 8 ай бұрын
I'm ashamed to admit how many times I've fallen for the exploding incense trick....
@znachkiznachki5352
@znachkiznachki5352 8 ай бұрын
I never really thought about it. I do know that I saw him at the premiere after party, but I just put it down to him being friends with Alexis, and Ally, because this was when How I met Your Mother was on, and they were friends.
@RoGueNavy
@RoGueNavy 8 ай бұрын
If you look into the graphic novels, they reveal that Zoe was pregnant when Wash died. And the novels also detail Book's backstory.
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 8 ай бұрын
31:36 Serenity is a great movie. Star Wars meets The Transporter. I've met Jewel Staite and Summer Glau. A interplanetary government assassin is dispatched to hunt down and capture a mentally traumatized teenage girl who is hiding aboard a space pirate ship commanded by a disillusioned former galactic war veteran.
@mark-be9mq
@mark-be9mq 8 ай бұрын
Maybe the Best end soliloquy ever. "Love keeps her in the air, makes her a home".
@glygriffe
@glygriffe 8 ай бұрын
Shepherd Book's death was predictable exacly because of the old mentor trope that Sean talked about regarding Simon and River. It's a lot more obvious with the shepherd and the captain because Book is an old wise man and Mal is the protagonist of the story. It is part of the hero's journey. The operative gave Mal the idea to disguise Serenity as a Reaver's ship, but Book gave Mal the reason to want to do it. Book helped Mal find his belief. Wash's death on the other hand is pure Whedon. Shock value, nobody's safe Whedon-verse, that gives the main characters and the universe they live in a more real feel because it is heartless and cannot justify the departure of some of its best people. A little like our own universe.
@mark-be9mq
@mark-be9mq 8 ай бұрын
Summer Glau trained intensely for three months before the cast gathered for those two fight scences. The grace she moves with adds agreat deal to the fight.
@somthingbrutal
@somthingbrutal 8 ай бұрын
if you want to see more of Summer Glau being a bad ass check out the terminator TV series The Sarah Connor Chronicles
@RaisiaFan1919
@RaisiaFan1919 8 ай бұрын
There is more to the Firefly/Serenity 'verse in the form of comic books, novels, and role-playing games. Enjoy.
@catprog
@catprog 8 ай бұрын
35:22 They were not real 30 Coins . That is a refrence. look up 30 silver.
@pattern2481
@pattern2481 8 ай бұрын
"Can't stop the signal."
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 8 ай бұрын
For the movie, the relationship between Mal and Simon has slipped back towards more antagonism than understanding. I think it works though, because with both Book and Inara gone, Mal doesn't have anyone he can get advice from who isn't in his chain of command. Both Book and Inara were people he could talk stuff out with. Now things just fester...
@prieto21
@prieto21 8 ай бұрын
Hey bros, I didn't watch yet, but I wanted to say that over the last couple weeks I've watched your reactions to Training Day, Gladiator, and a few others, and when I realized I was near the end of your reactions to movies I like, I was very bummed! I hope you guys keep going with more good movie reactions. Cheers!
@GoodOldGamer
@GoodOldGamer 8 ай бұрын
Where do reavers clean their spears? .... In the wash! 🤭
@davidbergfors6820
@davidbergfors6820 8 ай бұрын
the obligatory traumatizing joke has been made, I can rest easy
@larrystuder6378
@larrystuder6378 8 ай бұрын
And the mandatory reply, " Still TOO SOON!"
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 8 ай бұрын
I've seen that gallows joke rendered so: "How to Reavers clean their spears? By running them through the Wash."
@paratus04
@paratus04 8 ай бұрын
In the words of Alan Tudyk in a Knights Tale, “It’s called a LANCE, HELOOOO!”
@whocaresreallly5886
@whocaresreallly5886 8 ай бұрын
I was looking for this and its "by putting them through the Wash"
@slaaneshhedonite7068
@slaaneshhedonite7068 7 ай бұрын
I want him to sing Dr Horrible in that makeup. My kid and I used to sing some of those for the duo songs. I love this movie. Got a 40something’ framed poster in the ManCave.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 7 ай бұрын
Guys the Comics novels go into the history of Book. And Zoe. Among other things. All of them are overseen by Joss and from episodes that didn't go into production.
@Emburbujada
@Emburbujada 8 ай бұрын
Ah, yes, NPH is my favourite reaver (?) Well, that is a very satisfying movie, even with all the loose ends. I'm still not over Wash's death =(
@larrystuder6378
@larrystuder6378 8 ай бұрын
" We like the Fruity Oatey bar"... commercial.
@davidbergfors6820
@davidbergfors6820 8 ай бұрын
I have been told, (and please confirm for yourself if you feel the need) that both Ron Glass and Alan Tudyk were the two actors that knew right away that they would not be able to commit to returning to the potential continuation of multiple movies and that is why their characters were the ones that died. yes, the plan was to keep making a couple movies more if this movie did well in theaters. sadly, we did not get that. But Whedon were free to make Avengers, so that's a tiny comfort.
@VerMaarte
@VerMaarte 8 ай бұрын
The stance of River with the axe is almost similar as a wellknown portrayal of Buffy the Vampire Slayer....🤔
@davidbergfors6820
@davidbergfors6820 8 ай бұрын
River with the axe and knife is the cover of my copy of the Limited edition Serenity blu-ray. although in a different pose.
@valaport
@valaport 8 ай бұрын
There is a very believable fan theory that River is a slayer that also happened to be a genius and was interfered with by the alliance. She is very much a perfect weapon, built to kill monsters. I completely buy into it, in part because Joss did make a suggestion that all his shows exist in the same universe.
@Mindbombable
@Mindbombable 8 ай бұрын
Thx for the journey dudes. That is all.
@zurnie
@zurnie 8 ай бұрын
I have seen just about everything Joss has written. Wash and Book were expected. Not specifically but it is Joss's style. Off a fan favorite to shake up the universe. Buffy, Angel et al. It also fit into what I have read on their lack of availability for any future movies if filming was green lit right away. I have a theory in the romance department. It is also right up Joss's alley. Opposites attract. I could really see, if the show had continued, River and Jayne getting together. The meat head and the svelte brainy assassin. But we may never know now.
@martensjd
@martensjd 8 ай бұрын
I liked Summer Glau in "The Sarah Connor Chronicles." A lot.
@rayhume1971
@rayhume1971 8 ай бұрын
Book and Wash only died because they could not immediately commit to multiple films. Doesn't really make much sense, but it is what it is.
@tycol322
@tycol322 6 ай бұрын
I just did the math about the reavers and it terrifies me. They said 3 million people in the planet and a tenth of a percent became reavers. If my math is right that's 3000 people. 3000 people who terrify an entire universe. How truly brutal and barbaric the world have to be to to that can never be expressed in words
@lazykbys
@lazykbys 7 ай бұрын
39:30 The Reavers don't want you dead. Not yet, anyway. Remember what Zoe said in the first episode?
@cathrynedwards7568
@cathrynedwards7568 8 ай бұрын
You guys should watch the bloopers
@n9iui
@n9iui 8 ай бұрын
If you guys want a good laugh, go back to the robbery at the first of the movie. At the point where River senses the reavers, freeze play at the point where River lands on her back. It seems to me that they could have afforded a cuter stunt double.
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