Much appreciated! I have more confidence in tackling this job now after seeing you do it and explaining it. Thank you sir!
@derricklighten40923 жыл бұрын
Man i really appreciate your thorough explanation and good photos of how to remove and replace the bull gear
@user-pp1dz1ei8k Жыл бұрын
When the nut is tightened, how do you adjust the preload? Do you alter the thickness of the spacer between the bearings?
@MacMilly707 Жыл бұрын
Great content 👍
@donridzon89145 жыл бұрын
There is a preload on the new bearings FYI
@Bocheap3 жыл бұрын
Great video quick question? Before you start pulling gears off do you put everything in time and then pull gears to get back cover off.
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
If possible. I will try to get the cam and crank close to where they need to be to make it easier to go together
@Bocheap3 жыл бұрын
Tim Smith cool deal i replaced all the gears 3 years ago but didn’t take off the rear part of the cover and it came back to bite me lol.
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
@@Bocheap it always does. Lol.
@kevins11803 жыл бұрын
@@Bocheap what do u mean it came back to bite you..what actually happened...thx
@cdun69693 жыл бұрын
I rebuilding a 60 series right now. I inframed it and was getting ready to set my cam back in and found a tooth missing on one of my bull gears.
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
That sucks but at least you have caught it.
@DeLonghe_P_Ness4 жыл бұрын
Smdh...I just had mines done with ALL the gears in 2017 & it broke off teeth already. I have no damn idea why.
@prevost86865 жыл бұрын
The bull gear can be rebuilt for way less than $1500 .
@darrellrobinson61783 жыл бұрын
Do you have to replace the nut on that bull gear or can you use the same nut
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
Same nut
@rogeryoung20492 жыл бұрын
450 foot lbs for the gear. rebuilt a few and if I remember correctly its the same bearing used in the 71, 92 idler gear and you need a 1 to 4 lb pull with a scale to get a preload on the bearing to get it to work properly
@cheap_freight_LLC5 жыл бұрын
How much do you charge for a full inframe and bullgear replacement? '99 Detroit S60 with 1.3mil miles. Never been overhauled before.
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
I would do $4500 labor. You will also need the block to be machined. That would be $1000+/- for parts and labor
@georgegeorgepht4 жыл бұрын
For a 14 liter 60s it cost 29k at dealer for me. Remove block. Reman crank. New head new turbo. New compressor and new egr valve. Plus some other hoses and clamps thru the job. They are not cheap but not as expensive as others. 4500 labor is a great deal.
@Montoya19912 жыл бұрын
@@georgegeorgepht bro theres a reason ppl call them stealerships
@vicentehernandez3821 Жыл бұрын
Where are you located at Bud?@@battleaxefabandmachine
@battleaxefabandmachine Жыл бұрын
@@vicentehernandez3821 Springfield Missouri
@yuseff_bobr10 ай бұрын
Hey Tim, I have a 12.7 Detroit that needs to be overhauled and a bullgear replaced, block counterbored etc. just wondering how much would you charge for this. Thank you. I’m in Strafford
@battleaxefabandmachine10 ай бұрын
Give me a call. 4173490149
@azizomer30922 жыл бұрын
I have a question My 2010 dd15 pulsating when idling but the rpm doesn't move around and also i just had fuel pump put on. Do u think it has anything to do with idling bull gear at all?
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with the dd15 very much. I doubt that is the problem though
@jakecrane36903 жыл бұрын
What oil you recommend we run delo in everything
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
Deli is fine
@allywilkeforsenate5 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the company where you got the bearings from?
@donridzon89144 жыл бұрын
You can get them at any bearing distributor. I bought mine from a place call BDI or Bearings Distributor Inc.
@nawzy2024 жыл бұрын
Hope you can help me out. 2002 S60 12.7 when it's fully up to temp shutting it down then starting after few mins will whine somewhere up front for 7-10 sec then fade away. Checked bullgear and all other gears no play removed all belts still whine BTW no whine when cold. I did rods mains and new oil pump pressure valves 6 months ago there was no whine before or after. I thought it was a oil pump bought new nothing. I am beginning to think those pressure valves are what's making noise as I can hear whine under oil pan right where those valves sit what do you think? Thank you. It also changes with rpm
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
It could be the valves. If it's been doing it for a while and you have no problems you might just let it be. Maybe not the answer you want. You could also put new regulator and relief valves in it.
@nawzy2024 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine ok thank you for responding I will try replacing valves since it's the easiest and cheapest lol
@shortchange263 жыл бұрын
I never do that bearing service installed on the engine. I bolt mine to the welding table and put a 3/4 on it and never had a problem.
@ClassicTrucker5 жыл бұрын
Tim my gear box is leaking oil really bad next to the block dealer tells 5000+ to fix it. What would you do it for?
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
It's probably cracked on the back gear case. $1500 plus parts
@georgegeorgepht4 жыл бұрын
Probably the bell housing leak. Common problem on these engine. Remove trans , clutch, oil pan, support block, remove bell housing off back of motor. It’s a very big job. 5k is high but once u add motor mounts, seals, oil, new clutch, trans oil, resurfacing bell housing and reseal and install the rest. Big job for sure.
@Thelakedr2 жыл бұрын
I've never had to remove something that required so much torque so how would you stop the engine from moving I'm assuming if it's a standard you could leave it in gear but what if you had an automatic behind that does Detroit have a place to lock the engine out or do you have to get creative.
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
It's mounted to a spindle not crank or cam.
@Thelakedr2 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine gotcha I should have thought of that wasn't thinking thanks again for the quick response
@richlymann64515 жыл бұрын
What is the all in $$price parts labor for what you’re doing??? I’m ready to rebuild mine 03 12.7 det. 1.24mil still working, trying to find the mechanic though...thanks for your video good information..
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
For what I am doing in the video it's $1700 parts and labor
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
I'm in Springfield Missouri area
@charltonharris84434 жыл бұрын
Oh my God I'm having this problem with my Mack mp8 bull gear. 2 Mack shops told me $17k job to replace. Been sitting for 6 months
@willmann304 жыл бұрын
Damn bro that sucks that Volvo D13 which is the same are notorious for that bull gear going. Get you a loan and pay it off in 2 years 🤷🏾♂️
@SUPER_TANKER3 жыл бұрын
willmann30 a loan 😂🤣
@lisandromanuelhidalgoruz32393 жыл бұрын
Buy another engine
@battleaxefabandmachine6 ай бұрын
I work at a mack/volvo dealership now. We don't have bullhead problems. It's usually just timing plate leaks.
@youtubeisawesome24876 ай бұрын
you must be a newbie to the mack volvo engine, when they went from front gear to rear gear they forgot to change the thread direction, and the nut would back off, had a recall where you drilled the rear cover and installed a roll pin to stop it, hundreds upon hundreds failed, @@battleaxefabandmachine
@tonyhernandez23565 жыл бұрын
How can I check for play on bull gear without removing entire front cover off? Is it possible? My motor is 60s 99 model
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
Tony Hernandez you can check it through the accessory drive hole
@deanleisure23555 жыл бұрын
Remove the accessory drive gear the pulleys that drive the belts use a pry bar against the bull gear and the back of gear case should be no play if so replace or repair bull gears. (ACE) 40 year Diesle tech.
@custommade88303 жыл бұрын
Just got a pm done on my 2008 s60 freightliner. They said they found a tooth while draining the oil. Truck was running normal. Do u think I can run a few weeks before getting the bull gear replaced?
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's worth the risk. Is it worth it to you?
@custommade88303 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. The shop said 6k to fix it so gotta run in order to pay for the repair
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
@@custommade8830 I would do a visual check and see if there is actually a tooth broke off or if it is from a previous issue.
@custommade88303 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine when they saw the piece of metal they removed the oil pan to inspect the bottom they didn't see anything. Is there something I would notice while driving that would say its the bull gear?
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
@@custommade8830 no. It may have had a previous failure and that gear tooth was a left over. I would pull accessory drive and bar engine over and look at teeth
@jotz0074 жыл бұрын
Did you use Genuine Detroit to inframe or aftermarket?
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket
@jotz0074 жыл бұрын
You used aftermarket before, Are they any good in the long run? I'm inframing my series 60. Machine shop suggests FP diesel kit. My aim would be to get another million miles out if it. Any suggestions. Thx
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
I have had good luck with ipd stuff. I think I have even used fp stuff before. The key is to measure everything with a good micrometer and to have the block cut and counterbored.
@jotz0074 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine thank u for reply. I guess I'll try FP diesel for the first time. Yes I'm getting the counterbore done.
@chevys66962 жыл бұрын
Hey, informative video. 👍 I have a 06 columbia s60 14l, could you do an in frame rebuild for me? If so, how much to get stared?
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
I can. Depending on how much we do it will be $5000-$7500 in labor
@chevys66962 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine OK... do you have kits available?
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. Aftermarket and OEM. 4178296700 ask for Tim
@slimqui4812 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine aren't the rebuild kits still on back order
@gearmelugin34244 ай бұрын
i hate it when these gears cost that much money to buy, only lucky place to find a cheaper one is ebay
@battleaxefabandmachine4 ай бұрын
That's why the rebearing option is appealing. You can buy a core gear that is still intact, rebearing it and be up and running cheaper. You just have to make sure that you get the right core.
@mastermechanicfelipe46415 жыл бұрын
how much did you charge for the inframe?
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
On what engine? What truck?
@mastermechanicfelipe46414 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine 60 series century 05
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
$3000 labor. You buy parts
@bobjohnson79724 жыл бұрын
Tim Smith where do you live at
@mosthuggable2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim where are you located for a inframe?
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
Strafford Missouri
@bubbasmith4698 Жыл бұрын
How do you know when the bull gear is bad?
@battleaxefabandmachine Жыл бұрын
Pull accessory drive, use pry bar to pry bull gear front to back. There will be flex but should not be play
@arthurwilliams24253 жыл бұрын
HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE TO DO AN INFRAME ON A 60 SERIES 14L INCLUDING PARTS
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
As a shop it's going to be $3500+/- total
@arthurwilliams24253 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine HOW LONG DOES IT TAKES
@arthurwilliams24253 жыл бұрын
PLEASE EMAIL ME YOUR CONTACT INFO ABOWILLIAMS2@GMAIL.COM
@paulshamblin62605 жыл бұрын
How much are you going to charge me to do the labor on mine?
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
Paul Shamblin $1500 labor
@johnnygogo11352 жыл бұрын
How many miles before bull gear starts going bad
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
No set mileage. To many variables.
@kennethharris85262 жыл бұрын
I had an overhaul done not even a year ago just had replace my head I think this is why…. Can you do this job for me I need it done asap since I just got my head put back on…How long do you think before I mess the head back up should I park it immediately? Pls let me know I just think I found out my problem don’t wanna mess my truck up again I’m an owner opp they told me I was good for 1.5 million miles I haven’t even made it a year yet…. Maybe 215k at most if that I been down alot I think this is why nobody said anything about this 😡
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
Call me tomorrow. 4173490149
@chinitoshampoo12475 жыл бұрын
What size of socket
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
Chinito Shampoo I don't know. I made my socket around the nut of my first one years ago. I can measure it.
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
Chinito Shampoo 3 1/4
@mileswatkins64724 жыл бұрын
Do you have a viedo changing it out
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
No
@wyattharnack20734 жыл бұрын
How do you pull the Cam Drive Gear?
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
It has a single center bolt and 3 13mm bolts that you can access through the holes in the cam gear
@fairydust23814 жыл бұрын
There 900 from Detroit Diesel
@thomasbeck90752 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video I hate Detroit engines but at least I know how to fix my junk now
@battleaxefabandmachine6 ай бұрын
I was never notified of your comment. Lol. I love the 60 and 2 strokes. Thanks for watching
@zaidchalabi15992 жыл бұрын
where u located ?
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
Springfield Missouri area
@zaidchalabi15992 жыл бұрын
@@battleaxefabandmachine can you share your contact info? looking to inframe my detroit 60 series very soon and get new injectors, cam, bullgear and a head. im in TN. my mechanic wont do it and dealer is crazy expensive
@battleaxefabandmachine2 жыл бұрын
@@zaidchalabi1599 4173490149
@kelvinlee5544 Жыл бұрын
Can bull gear go bad and seize engine
@battleaxefabandmachine Жыл бұрын
I have never seen it but I suppose it could if piston is hitting a valve. If they fail while the truck is moving it usually just bends all the valves
@deanleisure23555 жыл бұрын
900 ft pounds is the correct torque for the left hand threaded hub nut should have 5 lbs.of drag on timken bearings. F.Y.I.
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@donridzon89144 жыл бұрын
5 lbs of drag is to much. Should be 1-3 lbs of drag. If you have 5 lbs it will not last long.
@kostadinvasilev67795 жыл бұрын
do you make volvo d13?
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@kostadinvasilev67795 жыл бұрын
Do you fix this problem? I have Volvo 2013 and have the same problem. How much the repair will cost?
@battleaxefabandmachine5 жыл бұрын
@@kostadinvasilev6779 I don't know much about the newer Volvo's
@mastermechanicfelipe46413 жыл бұрын
they are very similar, just at the back transmission has to be removed.
@robertrobinson73683 жыл бұрын
14 to 16 hours labor to do the job there is no short cuts put a new bull gear in it . ! The left handed nut is 800ft lbs . Pay me now or pay me later is how thev saying gos !
@firstname62083 жыл бұрын
You cannot be working at an authorized ddc dealer. This is NOT allowed. That bearing kit is aftermarket not ddc authorized. If your core is good they are not $1200 . Just sayin', do not attempt this at home. The cause of loose bull gear is not the nut loosening, it is typically fuel in the crankcase caused poor lubrication of the bull gear bearings causing the chrome to flake off the rollers and races. I replaced many bull gears and we got them for
@battleaxefabandmachine3 жыл бұрын
Although I have worked at a detroit shop this wasn't. Yes the kit is aftermarket. The reason it is available is because it can be done successfully. Fuel dilution is not the only reason for failure. Man made parts wear out. I have done it a handful of times with no trouble.
@themanthemyththelegend13925 жыл бұрын
Whew lawd PAI ewwww!
@gettingitdone10154 жыл бұрын
To much talking and not showing. What's the point of the video?
@mastermechanicfelipe46413 жыл бұрын
this is obviously for people in the know, not idiots.