SERIOUSLY, THIS WEAPON NEEDS HELP! (Space Marine 2 Discussion)

[@Overanalyse_This]

I really hope we get Lighting Claws soon!

[@moreauclement9702]

That and a tech marine. Seriously, those guys are always forgotten.

[@spidimarcin300]

aye, we could but from what i'm reading in other comments makes me think people would want everything in this game. chainfists, gauntlets of Ultramar( powerfists of Marneus Calgar) with bolters, power axes, maybe even Supreme Grand Master Azrael's Sword of Silence. We players were given with a finger and now we want whole hand

[@oneringtorule2032]

I’d rather have the axe

[@kirstyjerkic4362]

⁠​⁠@@spidimarcin300man I really do want those bolter powerfists but they probably won’t add it so the next best thing would be lightning claws but we can’t have every single melee weapon a marine has touched like some of it doesn’t even make sense the sword of silence? Not only is that a weapon only one person uses but that sounds like a weapon that makes marines go insane and become chaos

[@Overanalyse_This]

@@oneringtorule2032 did you want it before Secret Level?

[@sirsilco]

The heavy class needs a power fist with bolter option.

[@Benjamin_Unbuttoned]

I mean… the power fist carried me through my lethal clears, even my solo lethal clears. I wish it was faster and did a bit more damage, but it isn’t pure trash. I think it’s just a playstyle conflict mainly

[@kirstyjerkic4362]

It sounds like they’re trying to use it as a dueling weapon instead of a horde killer which is what it’s meant to do

[@G.I_Jane]

@@kirstyjerkic4362 which it doesn't do well at all lol, your best wave clear is the yellow tier blocking power fist and it literally has the same strength as the purple version. It is also the slowest option with the most cleave. Power sword has just as much cleave with better damage and speed.

[@billylewis3530]

Power fist my beloved 😭 make it gooooood pls!

[@warriorfire8103]

There's a lot of little tweaks that could help. - make the cleave of all the heavies match the ground slam perk - let the charge up from heavies give partial bonuses like the hammer. As it is, it's all or nothing.

[@volcano3493]

Assault Class on Lethal with melee fencing weapons: I mostly do melee attacks in the following instances: 1) Ground Pound with ability. 2)Running attack on Minoris followed by a gun strike. In all other scenarios your Assault guy will get shot up by various opponents, if you try to engage mobs in melee. So most of the time you deal damage with pistol & gun strikes. And always use terrain to minimize the amount of ranged opponents to have LOS to you.

[@nathancawley8759]

Im learning these lessons as my assault progresses into Ruthless, glad to know Im on the right track.

[@benleeper332]

Problem is why would you use the HF offer the hammer or sword?

[@silverstride9131]

To flex using a handicap

[@FenrirLupo]

For Operations, as an assault, I love the dodge forward into a straight power punch and the charged attack. Overall I love the style of punching enemies to death and the finishers are cool. I pick PF with fencing when I go against Chaos forces in lethal mode. For Tyranids, Hammer is a lot better.

[@servalkorion686]

Without the 1 shot bug it’s honesty overshadowed

[@mrself5824]

Slow, charge attacks take 5 business days, the lunge is so short the enemies can EASILY move away from you while you’re attacking them, awful damage that will make you think “wtf how much health does this dude have”, the cleave is so small you can hardly ad clear unless you’re using ground pound with it. The perks are horrendous, not only is the aoe skill bugged (not 10 meters, more like 3), the 30% health armour segment regen if you finish a 4-5 move combo including a charge attack is so slow and so niche, theres absolutely no reason to use this over a slightly sharp stick. What is the point of that perk if by the power fists second move the enemy has already recovered and is moving away faster than the fist can lunge. Constantly breaking combos rendering the weapon useless.

[@mac7858]

One of two weapons I’ve left to level up to relic and after what I have heard about it, I’m not looking forward to the grind of levelling it.

[@AJ-zu7ct]

Whats the other?

[@mac7858]

@@AJ-zu7ct Auto bolt rifle

[@HighKnighter]

Power fist has such little range, and it pretty slow on the standard attacks. It needs to be a little faster, and the waves need much more range.

[@HighKnighter]

Also the bug he is talking about is the range being incredibly low. One of the perks claim that the range is doubled on certain hits, but it really is not. Same wave roughly.

[@warriorfire8103]

When in doubt, the ground slam perk makes it wayyyy better a weapon. It hits 50% more enemies then all the base heavies and even let's you skip ahead in the combo chain. Plus hits harder then the starter heavy hit.

[@Yeertski]

Oh, that does sound good! I will have to try this out lol!

[@warriorfire8103]

​@Yeertski 😊 my channel has a tribute video if ya need proof. It's amateur but shows hit for hit why I like it

[@Empire_JeSzO]

You should do a video on the leaked perks for prestige from 2 months ago. Datamined, can't find any videos talking about it

[@OnlyOnSindays]

I forgot that this was in my inventory ngl.. 😂😭🤣

[@clayblaze1327]

Put it this way, in Lion sun of the forest, el Jonson takes a power fist to the side and it splinters his armour and breaks his ribs. By that thinking one or two hits should turn a tyranid warrior into red mist. I wanted to like the power fist but it definitely needs a huge buff as it’s reach and animation combos are extremely limiting so getting hits with it should count

[@warriorfire8103]

No idea what he means by the bug on artificer? Is he talking about block one having the higher power? It's also 1 speed. The Chainsword's fastest version is artificer as well.

[@warriorfire8103]

Its my favorite weapon for several reasons but most of those are hidden. I even have a post on Discord in #Beginners teaching them plus a video example.

[@GajeSteel]

Yeah, using the power fist feels like i'm just punching enemies with a sock em bopper.

[@Tookieslam]

Was waiting for someone to make a video after seeing that post on reddit 😂

[@Oakeybloke]

Power fist can be fun, but when it's slow (artificer fencing), getting through combos can be painful. Higher speed + the weapon perk that speeds up charged attacks are the way to go, I think. You're mobile while getting through the combo, which I like when it's not slow! Try alternating between normal and charged attacks, moving around as you go. The cannon punch is great too, nice aoe and always gives gunstrikes on minoris 🙂

[@glenndelucia8877]

It'd be nice if it charged faster for bonus cleave, did more aoe damage, an had combos like the chainsword. For example a light, light, heavy, an it automatically does a charged attack for the heavy it, would make a world of difference. Having to stop moving an charge mid combo really makes it feel terrible

[@warriorfire8103]

That combo is actually a more damaging charge. But you're into something. It's cleave is very low. This is why ground slam feels way better since it's hit limit is 50% higher then all the base heavy attacks

[@drakelujan]

what if the new difficulty is not harder but just different ? what would your oppinion be ?

[@warriorfire8103]

I'd like that personally. I miss the original lethal before all the cry babies complained about it not being the same as trivial difficulty. It actually changed your playstyle so the game felt genuinely differrent and fresh. Unfortunately the devs were too short sighted.

[@nfsfreakism]

Fist is mobile asf, but I can agree it needs a slight damage buff. It feels more like a quirkier power sword instead of thunderhammer. Im relying on crap tons of charge attacks between quick attacks to lock down majoris/extremis into melee

[@roh9347]

Thats what i've been saying from the very release of the game lol. Power Fist should be the most powerful weapon we have in terms of damage per hit . Normal attacks doesnt do anything (watching minoris to survive them or dealing basically no damage to Terminus enemies its unbearable to see , especially for a weapon renowned for its tank busting capabilities) while they should kill any majoris in 2 hits and one shot them with charged attacks . As a drawback, the animation speed could be consinstently reduced and when you score a kill you regain some hp. High risk high reward as its lore says. As of now, to quote some posts i saw on the official forum " it feels like its made of foam rubber" lol and they are right

[@zombiedust4299]

I hope they fix the game. So many bugs in customization screen. Not being able to change color of skull on helm, changing color of knee decals not working, etc. This is core functionality that has no reason to break.

[@chioxin]

I do too! I'd be happy if it was a super powerful single target weapon, and just can't do crowd control honestly. Kinda wonder how that would go. I got my powerfist to relic, but, I did it with friends so no one else had to suffer XD

[@G.I_Jane]

It baffles me that we still don't have an actual Loadout options, literally basic QoL and they can't do it. Insane lol. There is no point with the current loadout system where weapons are the only thing you can swap around. Not armor, armor colours, perks and weapons perks. Take a page out of DRG devs its not that hard. Having the option to load into a game and pick a full loadout with perks and team passives as well as armor without having to select 3 different tabs painstakingly because they are saved to that specific loadout is game design fundementals.

[@quistan2]

Yep, I just got done leveling power fist on assult to relic in the name of completion, I will likely never use it again, unless it gets a big buff.

[@mobiusprimal5840]

I only use the power fist because of my Saitama color scheme.

[@Monotony619]

"Consecutive normal punches"

[@warriorfire8103]

Being able to punch Zoans is where its at

[@Yeertski]

Lmao fair enough!

[@warriorfire8103]

@mobiusprimal5840 actually this might explain why I run crimson first so much

[@พฤติพงศ์แสงสว่าง-ภ6ฟ]

I am skill with power fist rather than power sword, power sword when switching style is miserable and cause you in trouble situation if you use it in miss circumstance or miss propose. Power fist strong as it own right, the one weakness of power fist is it low damage. Put your heart on it and you can see its potential.

[@nathancawley8759]

Hard agree, the power fist should be hitting just as hard, if not harder than, the hammer. It should have a higher swing speed as well. It should be the king of single target melee damage, with at least some AoE in the combo to deal with minors. They could make you throw the corpses of enemies you execute at other enemies to stagger them, if they dont wanna give it AoE damage.

[@Falcon10138]

Got advice on the powerfist and how to use properly so what u have to do is use light and charged attacks in a combo for example light light charge and to the combo going keep using charge or another combo charge light charge charge but in short u r just using both light and charge in the same combo that u can keep it going for a long time but there is video about the powerfist by a guy called Italianspartacus he made a guide on how to use the powerfist hope this helps been really enjoying ur vids keep it up

[@jamesl3567]

I want my tactical marine to be able to wield a powerfist

[@silasginell9251]

They need to change attack speed on powerfist its ridiculous that its slower than the hammer

[@gamermasterL]

Power fist and Thunder Hammer are both immensely slow also there is no super armor when charging or unleashing the biggest charge attacks so very often you get slam and take incredible damage and lose out on your entire attack.

[@alexvsergeev]

"knife is bad vs. mobs" It's really not. Just use one light attack + heavy attack combo. It makes a spin and does AoE damage, similar to a chainsword stomp, but much faster. You can also chain the spins with more light attacks. I like it even more than the stomp now for clearing mobs of minoris. Theres even a knife perk that increases the range of the AoE.

[@Whyme-wc9pr]

I must be insane.Then because I took the power fist, relic through lethal and had no problems with it

[@Eskeletor_210]

Power fist was my first relic tier

[@oseahaquino6306]

is it worth leveling up?

[@minimaluser2132]

everything needs a buff. i play at ruthless but struggling with randoms most of the time ... space marine power fantasy comes alive only on minimal difficulty. Bullet sponginess is not the way, on higer difficulties there should be only stronger but DIFFERENT enemies

[@LilLadJim]

I tried going with the immovable wall setup where you're supposed to not get knocked back when charging attacks as assault and uh yeah that didn't work so I just gave up on it in my opinion its just so comically slow for it to be viable sure you can (this is ops) one shot basically everything with a fully charged attack but uh never get to actually do that because the enemy will either backstep/teleport or attack you forcing you to dodge or parry

[@bobotmeister]

because of the dark angel's skin, I'm grinding the auto bolt 🤣

[@A-1-Sawce]

Real talk. I got every weapon to relic, maxed all of them and power fist was far away the worst melee weapon. Wish it'd get buffed

[@DevilHunter236]

I firmly believe that the main issues with balance are coming up because the devs are trying to balance PvE and PvP at the same time. They nerfed pwerfist because of how strong it was in PvP, making it worse in PvE when it was already the worst choice but still usable. PvP and PvE stats need to stay separated.

[@boof994]

If minimum charged power hammer can one shot in pvp then so should power fist

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

The powerfist is only somehwat viable with Bulwark. Hammer is too strong to take away from assasult

[@TheDwarfishjoe]

I really don't think the skeleton crew working on SM2 is capable of producing weapons anytime soon. Remember, they said it's hard to make content for their own game... so many animations and executions BULLSHIT excuse me.

[@frischebanane]

occulus boltcarabine(with scope) and bolt carabine rifle (high rpm) are my favorit rifles..ratatatatatata! ;D

[@blackdoom966]

Why use anything other then the Chainsword.

[@ThugCave]

screw the powerfist, i want boltstorm gauntlets for my heavy :>

[@The_Black_Falchion]

Not as much as the power sword, that needs it way more. I feel like my Bulwark performs much better with the fist than any other weapon he has.

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

The powerfist should’ve been a axe

[@JapaneseKeith]

Make it twice as slow and 3 times as mich damage

[@Hi-NuAetherling]

No,no,no, we want a power sword buff! That thing is like swinging a pool noodle.

[@garm-h4j]

no you want power fist to be buffed what most people want is more classes like a chaplain and apothecary ect also want new melay wepons like power axe or a spear or either a chainsaw axe

[@zardisblade1234]

I only agree with half theses statements about damage but I feel the power fist a. Bit too overpowered ngl especially for assault where you can chain multiple slams from using your jump pack and and instantly kill a majoris unit and having the charged attack I think it could be only slightly quicker and maybe give the character a resistance buff but honestly it doesn’t need to change at alllike it’s been a good go to for leathal for assault

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

I got my money's worth, had fun, don't think I'm coming back until maybe horde mode and some balancing reworks. The perk balance is so bad, melee balance, down to the core design of melee vs flyers. Chaos isn't very fun to fight, they need core reworks that won't happen. They doubled down on all the games problems making the new unit a fast flier for Chaos. Its like the opposite of what people who play and enjoy the game want. The game didn't need 2 factions. Should've just focused on Tyrannids and launched with more missions, varied events, and horde right from launch. Their content delivery is way too slow. Yeah the game was good, but still felt rushed and incomplete in many areas. Its a shame because I can see where it could be if it was perfected but I just don't think its happening. I think they are already working on Space Marine 3 and are in maintenance mode with some premade content ready to be drip fed until the next ones out. In the end it looks like they were adding new content throughout, but really it launched 60% done, so its really not that above and beyond what they're doing with "content" post launch.

[@deathbyspeed2]

Want to buy gun powerfists!!!

[@thebatman8957]

I main Bulwark and have been leveling powerfist only because I have everything else for Bulwark at Relic. Yea, it's not that great.

[@cardiff1582]

Nah mate. Jump packing into a swarm with a fencing powerfist is badass. Get your timing right.

[@sebastianmenconi6853]

I think it's honestly strong. Am I missing something? XD

[@DaemonPrince]

Eternal Crusade Did the power fist better unironically.

[@nicksch5021]

How about some more speed on some of these weapons like the relic chain swords are slow as shit. Most of these melee weapons also dont have good combos in my opinion chain sword I think is the best for combos.

[@GeorgePtacek]

“Powerfist is trash” Me looking at my maxed out powerfist that I carry with.🤨

[@kalenwilliams5210]

Your just good at the game Brodie , get any other weapon maxed and you’ll probably play even better .

[@The_Black_Falchion]

@@kalenwilliams5210 I’m with him on this one, the Bulwark does substantially better with the fist than he does with the Power Sword.

[@kalenwilliams5210]

@@The_Black_Falchion ok that I can agree with , power sword sucks even more , but I think the real comparison is Power first , to thunder hammer . Thunder hammer is really the best viable choice for assault . The power sword is a toothpick

[@The_Black_Falchion]

@ I don’t run assault so I can’t speak to that. I run Vanguard and Bulwark primarily (mostly Vanguard)

[@kalenwilliams5210]

@@The_Black_Falchion I got every class maxed outside of heavy because I prefer melee combat to shooting , I’ll have to play with power first bulwork to see because I’m really not liking the power sword anymore , the TTK on it feels forever .

[@hokkerville]

Melee needs buff. Spacemarine can't kill small enemies with one swing with a power sword. Gtfo

[@keivonmayes4907]

This game is getting boring now lol

[@medgarcarr5584]

Don't charge😅 yea it's a light atk beast