Crazy 48TB SSD NAS and Cheap 6TB Version Asustor Flashstor FS67

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ServeTheHome

ServeTheHome

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We take a look at the 48TB Asustor Flashstor 12 Pro and Flashstor 6 all-flash NAS units and see how they are made. The Asustor Flashstor FS6712X 10GbE NAS we fitted with 12x Crucial P3 Plus 4TB M.2 NVMe SSDs for 48TB total. The Asustor Flashstor FS6706T 2.5GbE NAS we fitted with 6x Crucial P3 Plus 1TB M.2 NVMe SSDs as a cheap option. These units are crazy.
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00:00 Introduction
02:39 External Hardware Overview FS6706T and FS6712X
04:48 Internal Hardware Overview FS6706T and FS6712X
08:56 Performance
11:38 Power Consumption and Noise
15:12 Key Lessons Learned
19:04 Wrap-up
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@chumbawumba1959
@chumbawumba1959 Жыл бұрын
We need Asustor and Synology to have a baby! Need the tech innovation of the Asustor and the DSM UI and package features of the Synology with all of apps. Memo to Synology: Pay attention and catch up :)
@balla2172
@balla2172 Жыл бұрын
And the hardware of qnap
@u4ia420
@u4ia420 Жыл бұрын
I don't want to step away from Synology due to their fantastic software, but Asustor, they are making me think hard about my next NAS.
@vilikarac6776
@vilikarac6776 Жыл бұрын
Is that a ps4?
@vilikarac6776
@vilikarac6776 Жыл бұрын
Is that a ps4?
@seansingh4421
@seansingh4421 11 ай бұрын
They’re called Ubrel and Unraid
@feejus
@feejus Жыл бұрын
Thanx Patric! Truly amazing devices. I hope we see more manufacture come out with these. I got an old Thecus NAS I want to migrate across to new NAS.
@pincombe
@pincombe Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you’ve spoken to asustor but a rep told me that low noise was one of their top goals. Their intention for the product is to be used for media consumption and expect it to sit connected to a tv in someone’s media center which is why it has the angled sides. It’s a weird one because although it’s quacks like a NAS it’s really aimed at the android media box market.
@dexopaw
@dexopaw Жыл бұрын
Do the angled sides make it quieter?
@pincombe
@pincombe Жыл бұрын
@@dexopaw no they are purely for looks since they expect this product to be sitting alongside your tv
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@dexopaw They clearly copied old playstation look
@concinnus
@concinnus Жыл бұрын
In this case, one angled side has a practical effect: it ensures that the exhaust is not blocked by someone shoving it up against a panel.
@leonwang4207
@leonwang4207 Жыл бұрын
@@pincombe I think it's worked to avoid covering the cooling vents when you pout it in a tiny space , but yes, also make it more gaming stylish
@chuck1011212
@chuck1011212 Жыл бұрын
I got the 12 drive version of this and like it. (loaded with 4x 4TB drives was not cheap though) I wanted something that was more portable and was light and fit well into a suitcase. This fits the bill perfectly. I am a travelling nomad and want to bring my media collection with me.
@CareyHolzman
@CareyHolzman Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I had no idea these existed. Very thorough review! Thank you!
@ericneo2
@ericneo2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering the 10GbE!
@alanpaone
@alanpaone Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of these, I've been using a DS620slim for awhile because my office is also my bedroom, so having no hard drives clicking away all night is really nice, having 2 gigabit connections is totally fine for home use, even if I'd love a little more. There's plenty of gigantic 12 core, 24-bay NVME dual 100gig all flash NAS options, but surprisingly few small and silent all-flash products. the 12 bay option would give me the option of using whatever cheap 1-2TB NVME drives i can get my hands on, without needing to hunt down good deals on cutting edge high-capacity drives (seriously, 4tb 2.5" drives are a nightmare right now), or losing a bunch of space for redundancy. these are a softball right over the plate for me.
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the angled look of the Asustor Flashstor, in a room full of cases and boxes and equipment - they stand out from all the plain black or grey rectangles ! :-)
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
It looks cool, but it also looks funny when stacked.
@antonzadorozhniy6605
@antonzadorozhniy6605 Жыл бұрын
I wish for something like this (maybe even smaller, like 3-4 m.2 connectors), but with bios and ability to install OS of choice, with ZFS. Would be a great low power and quiet NAS for those who don’t need a lot of storage.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
These should be already like that. They have a HDMI port and a BIOS, and an Intel processor. Unless they have been locked down, but ASUS didn't do much to lock you out on other NAS with similar hardware
@antonzadorozhniy6605
@antonzadorozhniy6605 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks, I’ll look into it. Would be great to have ECC RAM as well, but Intel spec says it doesn’t support it.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@antonzadorozhniy6605 Pretty much no consumer NAS supports ECC RAM and this is no different
@n.shiina8798
@n.shiina8798 Жыл бұрын
@@antonzadorozhniy6605 no ECC support is common for consumer grade NAS. Synology have Ryzen based consumer NAS that supports ECC but i have no idea if they're locked to their OS or not
@scsirob
@scsirob Жыл бұрын
QNAP has the TBS464, with 4x M.2 and 2x 2.5GbE. I have not tried hacking my way into it, but I have with other QNAP devices. I had a TS873 that I replaced the USB DOM from and ran TrueNAS on it. Ran like a charm.
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this introduction to this equipment. Interesting products.
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 11 ай бұрын
I just found you, and sir, you are awesome! I subscribed immediately. All good wishes and thanks for such hyperinteresting content!
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@stepannovotny4291
@stepannovotny4291 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant review, thank you! Yeah the USB fan connector makes me very nervous. I listened to this at 1.5 x playback speed and that was about right.
@lordbacon4972
@lordbacon4972 11 ай бұрын
Great content! I really appreciate your review approach and format, I learned a lot! Subscribed!
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Still working on it
@gowinfanless
@gowinfanless Жыл бұрын
Professional video with such a cool NAS,NICE!!
@StephanWahlen
@StephanWahlen Жыл бұрын
I did the spiritual predecessor to this id like to think: A Synology DS620*slim* loaded with 6x 8TB Samsung 2.5" SATA SSDs. It's similar by volume to the Asustor Units and has a similar-ish processor (J425) and 8GB RAM (i upgraded it). The result is a silent, small NAS with decent enough performance for all kind of home-uses that can be tucked away anywhere and will never cause issues with anything mechanical. I just wish there was an option for 10gbe on my synology, but it's just too old for that (2019). You can add a 2.5gbe via USB3 though and it works well.
@dobermanownerforlife3902
@dobermanownerforlife3902 Жыл бұрын
I wish the 2.5" nas had taken off. I should have bought the Slim. With them no longer being produced, I opted to not buy one.
@pixelwash9707
@pixelwash9707 Жыл бұрын
I love it, a sort of reasonably priced solid state NAS for camping. Never thought I'd see such a thing discussed by an corporate enterprise IT Pro, lol, but intriguing possibilities definitely come to mind for personal media libraries.
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 8 ай бұрын
And I get funny looks for having a canvas tent with a stove for camping. I can't imagine why anyone would need a NAS when camping in the middle of a forest beside a quiet lake 🤣🤣
@MainelyElectrons
@MainelyElectrons Жыл бұрын
Neat units. I could see this being a good solution for a person whos’ primary concern was size of the unit AND they don’t plan on using VMs or compute heavy dockers, plus they have no need for the storage volume of spinning drives
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Also noise. Large helium disks make a decent amount of noise when working. Think about if you had a small studio and wanted a NAS to store footage
@MainelyElectrons
@MainelyElectrons Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo solid point, I’m one of those weirdos who likes to hear the drives clicking away so I hadn’t even considered that.
@junkmail6992
@junkmail6992 11 ай бұрын
I got the 12 drive one. It became clear very quickly it was nowhere near as legit as my QNAP but it grew on me pretty quickly once I begun to appreciate what it was and stopped trying to compare it to other things. I have since decided to use it as the low power central hub for my media center data, apps, and related docker containers. For that specific purpose It's pretty damn slick and multiple Plex 4K playback is smooth even with the CPU pegged; doesn't matter, it stays responsive. Its whisper quit and small, so it disappears in my entertainment rack. The UI and the apps are not as diverse as QNAPs or as apple-y as Synology but it's experience overall is very serviceable. For a power user needing to host VMs and manage a diverse set of workloads this won't work; it can't even support multiple VLANs on the same NIC. VirtualBox feels like its trapped in the 90s. But for basic use or even modernly advanced needs, I would recommend this.
@n25992
@n25992 3 ай бұрын
Hello do you mean it is compatible with plex server. That would be my main use
@someoneoutthere1866
@someoneoutthere1866 Жыл бұрын
been waitng for wsomething like this
@Rbrocklehurst
@Rbrocklehurst 6 ай бұрын
great video always very thorough
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@cmoullasnet
@cmoullasnet Жыл бұрын
I just switched my home TrueNAS from spinning rust to 7.68TB U.2 Kioxia CD6 drives off Ebay using a PCIe x16 bifurcation card. Was just tired of slow spinning rust drives. I only have 10GbE as well and the drives are super limited by both ZFS and 10GbE networking but honestly SSDs have nearly reached the point where you can buy them and throw away the performance as bulk storage. It's just a nice big quality of life improvement - less noise, less power and consistent performance for all your file shares. So I definitely get the concept from this perspective.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Very much this. We are getting more 30.72TB SSDs in the lab and that is making all-flash high capacity storage tempting.
@jonathanbuzzard1376
@jonathanbuzzard1376 Жыл бұрын
I wish that was true. However, if you are buying serious quantities of storage then the difference is a seven figure sum. I have recently had a quote from the Pure sales rep at work who insisted that they where cost-competitive with spinning disks LOL. Admittedly you are spinning hundreds of drives at that point and all your metadata and small files are on SSD so meh.
@MichaelBoratko
@MichaelBoratko Жыл бұрын
Does ZFS actually limit the performance of fast M2 SSDs? What should one use instead?
@Evan-lg1xp
@Evan-lg1xp Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent time to release this. The price of NANA flash is so crazy right now. The price of SSD's has gone down so much in the last month and now the M.2 drives are dirt cheap. We're finally at a point where something like this makes sense to buy.
@rdiznfriends
@rdiznfriends Жыл бұрын
do you have any more in depth knowledge of the market to share? is this drop in nand prices cyclical or more permanent? is it a result of oversupply from the past year or so or was there a change in the cost of manufacturing causing prices to drop?
@blender_wiki
@blender_wiki 7 ай бұрын
In our studio we have 2 of the 10GbE model and after few months of usage they are just Great. One whe use for fast backup on set and the other one for the VR in house set as storage for the dedicated Unreal WS. Both situation require light/small, high capacity, non moving part storage. However we upgarded the RAM and we instaled TrueNAS scale instead than the original OS. ZFS z2 setup(28TB practical capacity), easy cloud sync, openvpn, auto shut down on power failure,small custom docker to manage some in house utility, etc.) Like you said this is mainly a storage solutions you don't get crazy speed out of it but is very light, low consomption, very costumizable. Low consomption is great on set where often we work on powerbank.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 7 ай бұрын
I am now using one in the studio and one at home just for the quiet operation as well.
@steverogers8163
@steverogers8163 Жыл бұрын
Funny I was just thinking about a SSD NAS yesterday. From pricing it looks like going with regular ol' SATA SSD are cheaper on the per Terabyte compared to their M.2 equivalent size, though not by a gigantic amount. Obviously that means they are bigger and slower but realistically that doesn't matter for what I would use it for. Or really what the vast bulk of home users what use it for. Though since the market is clearly all in on M.2 I expect by the time we see more of these M.2 NAS units from the likes of Synology the pricing on them will probably be better than the old SATA style.
@Mkungaa
@Mkungaa Жыл бұрын
Cheap SATA SSDs have abysmal speeds during consecutive writes. SATA SSD with proper cache and speeds are quite expensive tho, and there is no much of a choice outside of Samsung and Corsair MX.
@scsirob
@scsirob Жыл бұрын
SATA or MVMe won't matter much in performance. In the end it needs to hit the network. A single SATA-600 drive has enough throughput to completely fill two 2.5GbE network connections. These 6 or 12 M.2 NVMe SSDs are twiddling their thumbs for their entire lifespan.
@Mkungaa
@Mkungaa Жыл бұрын
@@scsirob y'all live all in a fantasy world, where SSDs keep writing at 500MB/s after filling out cache capacity? 1TB Samsung 870 EVO's actual sustained write speed is 80 MB/s, 2 TB version has only 160 MB/s. And on top of it 1TB SATA 870 EVO costs more than m.2 970 EVO Plus, which has sustained writing speed around 800-900 MB/s. M.2 in these all-flash NASes makes sense, SATA SSDs are obsolete - they do not get produced and sold enough to benefit from economies of scale.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Жыл бұрын
You can get a 4 TB M2 NVMe PCIe4 SSD for £200 these days - to me that's pretty close to SATA SSD's for pricing. The problem is when you want higher quality 4 TB, or anything at 8 TB. How on Earth we had a 1 TB microSD years ago, but still can't get more than 8 TB per M2 SSD is beyond me. It should be possible, it's just that noone is actually doing it.
@DoctorShaunB
@DoctorShaunB 9 ай бұрын
N305 version of this would be great! Although would still only have 9 PCIE lanes. Throw in a suite of synology type features and you got a winner!
@bpj443
@bpj443 4 ай бұрын
I see these as perfect solutions for Van Life and Sailing / Cruising lifers. Those very much offgrid applications where minimal space and power consumption are key. The performance is more than sufficient for their vlogging and video editing, plus storing media libraries / entertainment, and maybe even storing video from IP cameras for security. The 12V side of these vehicles' power systems is clean enough these days that you could probably just power directly off that bus.
@fteoOpty64
@fteoOpty64 Жыл бұрын
Patrick is way more enthusiastic in this video!. Better and better stuff to review and test. This NAS is great for an RV on the road, editing outdoor videos at night!.
@geoffsmith82
@geoffsmith82 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to when I can get a device that has 20Tb of NVME storage, 10gb ethernet, fanless and able to run a few basic VM's all for $500 in a decent case. Probably a few years away yet, but these devices show we are getting closer!
@starwarrior125
@starwarrior125 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually considering this for my mobile office/camper build. With its low power draw a single solar panel with a small battery could run it indefinitely. I could also see this being used to run my steam library off of with the 10Gbe being enough for this.
@AxelZara
@AxelZara 8 ай бұрын
This is overkill for a Steam library and in the end you'll lose performance. If you only need your steam library, you are better off getting 1 or 2 8TB SSDs and running off of those.
@abelgerli
@abelgerli Жыл бұрын
Actually usb c power supply would be perfect for travel. I got a two 100w GaN usbc psu so travelling with a big nas would be perfect. And no one need that bend walls on a nas. Make it fancy and stylish for a nas that just has to vanish. Server rack bracket mounts would be nice though 😊.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
That is my biggest complaint about the side angle style. Totally agree
@seethruhead7119
@seethruhead7119 Жыл бұрын
What would be a good DIY solution to the 12 nic version of this. Seems like you would need a lot of pcie lanes and bifurcated nvme cards. Any actual hardware recommendations? Ideally similar price or cheaper.
@MikeHarris1984
@MikeHarris1984 Жыл бұрын
That thing is pretty cool..... I dont know if I would use M.2 for NAS as there is a finite read/write they can do. I stick to spinning rust for my NAS. I use enterprise grade SAS drives in my disk shelf JBOD setup.
@braixenflame4263
@braixenflame4263 Жыл бұрын
Hey ServeTheHome, Thanks for yet again a great video, I could not help but notice that unlike other videos you did not cover the capabilities of the 10g port version. Normally you will say whether the 10g port does or does not support different lower speeds like 5, 2.5 or 1g. I was Not able to find this info on your site’s (STH) news article. I think this is key to know as you can only get 6 drives for the 2.5 ver but 12 for the 10g ver. For myself for example i have a 2.5g network at home only and would only buy the 12 bay ver for future proofing. - - - Could someone please comment if it supports the lower speeds and if so which ones? - - - Side question: does anyone know how well this would perform as a PLEX server? I assume transcoding would not work so only devices that direct play ect.
@alonzosmith6189
@alonzosmith6189 Жыл бұрын
The flashstor on my wish list. Hopefully my sons surprise me. Currently looking at the AS6708T NAS
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling you are going to be sending them this video
@FlaxTheSeedOne
@FlaxTheSeedOne Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this with u.2/3 bays. Such that you can use them with used/old enterprise ssds this would make a greate alround storage then.
@craigyounkins7013
@craigyounkins7013 11 ай бұрын
Strange conclusion "So overall, do I think these things are great? Absolutely... not" but overall you seemed happy with it and the complaint that immediately followed was about the form factor and seemed pretty minor.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 11 ай бұрын
There is a difference between greatness and something that is just generally good. Steph Curry is great, even if he cannot play center in the NBA. Every NBA player is generally good.
@ryanmalone2681
@ryanmalone2681 3 ай бұрын
Seems like a decent solution for having on the network and passing through as SMB storage to Proxmox containers/VMs.
@accesser
@accesser Жыл бұрын
Interesting, might be okay for a low power home lab storage , connect some NUC's (or similar) running ESXI/Proxmox to this as a storage mount
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
The 6x M.2 version is going to do exactly that in the TinyMiniMicro/ STH Mini PC lab
@namelessdata4608
@namelessdata4608 Жыл бұрын
If they made the 6 slot version with a 10 gig nic for the current price, I think I'd buy it!
@adamosity7127
@adamosity7127 Жыл бұрын
the reason there is four screws on the bottom is so the door doesn't rattle when fan is out of balance from dust.
@diazrocks
@diazrocks Жыл бұрын
A know a few small post houses and editors who woukd love to have these as their working / on progress NAS. They would love to have these. also, DIT / data wranglers on a film/video shoot would love these instead of relying on stacks of portable SSDs.
@Cristian-yj4gk
@Cristian-yj4gk Жыл бұрын
I would love for asustor to do a rackmount version of those
@justjoeblow420
@justjoeblow420 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if it wasn't for the costs it would be perfect for my needs in a NAS, quite plenty of space and fast enough networking. I'd mostly want one for stuffing in a corner of my studio to sit there for sample and project storage so I can keep my massive library of samples and not have noise issues.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
It is much quieter than HDD based NAS units.
@ksampler6183
@ksampler6183 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you already know, you guys circled the Kensington lock when you said “Optical Audio” 😉 Would you still trust Asustor after the whole ransomware thing? Great video like always!
@leonwang4207
@leonwang4207 Жыл бұрын
This ransomware happened on Synology & QNap too.
@LobsterHarry
@LobsterHarry Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video. I was already looking for this NAS. Great job ! Question 1: is it possible to connect it directly with a PC via USB to use the full speed ? Question 2: can I use WiFi in any way ?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
1. I do not think so. 2. It does not have built-in WiFi. I think you can add it via USB but we only tried wired USB NICs that did not work. The ASUSTOR management interface has a USB WiFi setting though so it probably works
@VillSid
@VillSid Жыл бұрын
I built an SSD media machine for my parents because of low noise... problem was limited storage and large size... I would love to stick in behind the TV but it would be even better if it was fanless.
@michaelfragrances
@michaelfragrances 9 ай бұрын
For Europe, such storage facilities will be relevant, especially for those who live on autonomous power from solar panels😎😎😎
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo 9 ай бұрын
European power is very expensive (relative to much of the US)
@djole02
@djole02 Жыл бұрын
@4:02 looks like the animation is showing the kensington lock port instead of the TOSLINK ports.
@salnegromusic
@salnegromusic Жыл бұрын
Can I use the Asustor Flashstor FS6706T 2.5GbE NAS to connect to my Mac Studio for storage?
@richardsims3819
@richardsims3819 Жыл бұрын
This is great and all but how do you make the storage cheaper?
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Жыл бұрын
I'd love something like this with an i3-1315u With a motherboard that supports 1x bifurcation. Imagine 16 drives, each with one PCIe 4.0 lane, and then the last 4 lanes going to 40G or 100G QSFP+ Would be a great portable all-in-one NAS, the only thing that would make it better, would be to take the 1360P, and instead of 4P+8E cores, trade the P cores for E cores. A micro NAS with 24 E cores, keeping the pretty decent 96EU XE graphics. I have older graphics and they still work pretty well with AI image recongnition. With that core count, support for 128GB of RAM, and 16 NVMe, a decent GPU, and high speed networking, this would actually be a pretty powerful server, but absolutely tiny. FYI, while i have no way to actually test this because Intel doesnt make a 14 P core dekstop processor, i can extrapolate that 24E cores offer the same performance as 12-16P cores, while using around 80w, instead of ~270w
@Endelin
@Endelin Жыл бұрын
I hope these do well enough to prove the market viability, and then better versions are made.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor Жыл бұрын
I have an old 5 bay Synology with 4+1 14 TB drives installed. It works well, but… it would be interesting to upgrade it, due to longevity of SSD’s. But NAS systems are essentially dependent on their software. Who makes the software for these units? It would be nice to know the features and stats.
@emilypeters8888
@emilypeters8888 Жыл бұрын
like the idea but would like to see at least a 20 pcie 4.0 lane capable chip option, that said chip makers need to make cheap/lower end chips with higher native lane counts for these style applications to offer high speed style nas
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. One of the big challenges is that amount of PCIe Gen4 lanes / controllers makes a chip higher power these days :-(
@GiulianoMazzina
@GiulianoMazzina Жыл бұрын
Man, I love to see if I could set up one of those as the "cache drive" for my actual server and have it backup to HDD at night.
@Fyr042
@Fyr042 Жыл бұрын
I dont understand why you use P3 *plus* which is a PCIe Gen4 while the Celeron N5105 CPU only support PCIe Gen 3. In this case P3 (without plus) is ok ? I have an other question : How many PCI lane per SSD drive ? Thanks for your video.
@malicious217
@malicious217 Жыл бұрын
Why does your ps4 look weird? Seriously though these are neat. Seems like a good small form factor NAS
@frankwong9486
@frankwong9486 Жыл бұрын
I got question about QLC , will the slow sustain wirte speed cause issue whe rebuild ? They write slow when running out of slc cache and goes into real QLC write speed
@ShowXTech
@ShowXTech Жыл бұрын
Minisforum UM790 Pro Ryzen 9 7940HS: Zen 4 with RDNA3 and DDR5/LPDDR5 This is going to be wild, would love to see a Video on it.
@marc3793
@marc3793 Жыл бұрын
I've found SMB Multichannel a pain in the ass to get consistently working on Windows 10. What OS was running on the clients for these tests? Also, do the NICs have DMA support?
@kungfujesus06
@kungfujesus06 Жыл бұрын
The HDMI port on the thing is a strange addition. Did they intend it to be connected to a display? I mean I guess it might help troubleshooting but that's not a typical appliance.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
How much more would this cost with something like a Ryzen 7600? Way more PCIe lanes and still fairly low power consumption. I guess at that point you're fairly close to a mITX system with an expansion card, but the compact form factor is still desirable.
@boxrick1
@boxrick1 Жыл бұрын
ECC support? Can you install your own OS?
@Razor2048
@Razor2048 Жыл бұрын
They should make a version that comes preconfigured to just work with 6-8 m.2 SSDs along with a connection for easy expansion using a DAS enclosure for bulk storage.
@CarmeloSoy
@CarmeloSoy Жыл бұрын
thanks for your review. I'm about to go for the 12-bay one but I have doubts. It is only for Max studio in 10gb network. could you configure 2x2tb raid 1 (Time Machine) 4x2 raid 5 for Final Cut? and 2x2 raid 1 for Max applications and the nas itself? Could you do it little by little? first system apps then finalcut…. etc (for not having to spend all of one. Would you be able to do that and manage the different raids? Obviously you would look at the ram you have and expand it. Do you know what the Maximum is? I understand it will be ddr4 or dimm 2666? Thanks for your attention
@advX
@advX Жыл бұрын
Cool nas using ssd's, but i think the fan is not enough, so how to maintain the temp at least?
@Sir_Bini
@Sir_Bini Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised it kept crashing with higher capacity RAM because the Intel Celeron N5105 supports a maximum of 16GB of DDR4 at 2933MHz. I imagine as soon as the system deposits data onto memory outside of the 16-gig-pool the CPU recognizes, it freaks out and goes "Derp, poof!"
@michael1t
@michael1t 10 ай бұрын
two questions Can I use the SABRENT 8TB Rocket 4 Plus NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme in the Asustor Flashstor FS6712X ? Also , I is use only 8 Slot of the 12 slot ssd with 8 drives @4tb m.2 ssds?
@CloudybayTee
@CloudybayTee Жыл бұрын
as per intel spec N5105 only allows 16GB ram seriously, they should go for N100 or N305 already and get 1 extra pcie lanes to play with.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I agree. We have a N305 review recorded and just waiting on editing. That is a really interesting chip.
@UltimateByte
@UltimateByte Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the video! Where is the OS installed on it? Can you put a distro like TrueNAS?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
There is 8GB onboard eMMC. Some folks have installed Linux on it.
@UltimateByte
@UltimateByte Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Good to know, thanks a lot! This should also be doable DIY, with more power consumption :)
@LordTimelord
@LordTimelord Жыл бұрын
They NEED to create a version of this that supports the twelve nVME Drives combined with a AMD Zen3+/RDNA3 APU that'll support 32GB of FAST DDR5. It would make for one heck of a PLEX Server that can both handle the storage and encode/decode on the fly (for multiple output streams)! PLEASE make it happen Asustor! 🤞
@RetroPlayer4000
@RetroPlayer4000 Жыл бұрын
Wishes not miracles kid
@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 Жыл бұрын
Add a few sata ports to connect HDDs and then with ZFS and caching this will be a fast NFS server.
@BlownMacTruck
@BlownMacTruck Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t you just get a server at that point? You can get a 40 core 12 drive bay Plex monster with 128gb of ram for barely $400. And what would the point of having any APU be? Get a silent / tiny nvidia shield for your Plex client.
@desertlightning7335
@desertlightning7335 Жыл бұрын
I mean, you could have a separate disk array.
@desertlightning7335
@desertlightning7335 Жыл бұрын
@@BlownMacTruck Yeah, I bought my R720 for under $300 used. Yes it's power hungry, but it idles at less than 100 watts on average, has a shit ton of PCIe lanes and slots. a lot of SATA HDD slots etc. It runs TrueNAS Scale well and I haven't had really any major gripes. It's actually really quiet for a rack server. NVMe drives work fine with an adapter and so does a USB 3.0 card
@kevinmccarthy2793
@kevinmccarthy2793 Жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb questions, but can you connect each of the network ports to a different network in order to share files between computers on two different networks? For reasons (that may or may not be valid), my wireless network is different than my wired network and we can't share files between my wired computers and my families wireless machines.
@Dushyantgiri
@Dushyantgiri Жыл бұрын
I m looking for nas solution for home but all this dependent on good network and good internet and good power supply.. How to design from all these factors
@hausm3ister
@hausm3ister 8 ай бұрын
I kind of get it, but since they don't need pcie drives for performance, you could also build something like it with Sata SSDs which could make it cheaper as there are less pcie lane issues. At least for DIY you could get the same results with sata for cheaper, but probably not easily in that small space.
@michael1t
@michael1t 3 ай бұрын
Hello I bought the Asustor Flashstor FS6712X and I love it ... But I added a extra SSD and Broke the plastic clip that holds it in place ... I have tryed to contact asustor not response . It would be great if you could post a link on how to buy replacement clips and show how to replace them ....Thanks Love Your site and videos Michael T.
@boxcar1818
@boxcar1818 5 ай бұрын
I was able to bump the RAM to 32Gb with 2 16GB Corsair Vengeance Performance 3200MHZ DDR4. Been running NAS continuously for over 3 months now without a single hiccup whatsoever👍
@MarkEichin
@MarkEichin Жыл бұрын
(I've since seen this box reviewed a bunch of places, but you were the first, from my perspective at least...) I just replaced a pair of HP Proliant boxes with a lot of 3.5" spinning rust, with the little version of this and raid-6 over 6x2T. *vast* upgrade, quieter, cooler, faster in every way. Shoved ubuntu 23.04 on it (8G onboard is way too small, but it's enough to get going with setup until I carved off a mirror of some extra space on two of the slightly larger SSDs for the root disk - turns out 50G is decent for an OS install, and *round off error* for 2T SSD sizes :-) Also maxed out the RAM. (For all the complaints about it being underpowered - for me, it was a cheap upgrade for a cheap homelab setup, if anything it was overpowered.)
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Glad you have had a good experience thus far! We have been using both of these daily
@wouldntyaliktono
@wouldntyaliktono Жыл бұрын
For me, the appeal of this hardware setup is the potential for a virtualization server running a router and a NAS with plenty of power to do both jobs, but without the noise and energy impact of spinning disks. Do I have to run Asustor software to match? Or can I do a linux distro if I want to?
@nexus1972
@nexus1972 Жыл бұрын
I believe asustor do allow you to install linux but for me the n5105 is the limiting factor here - this is designed to be quiet not performant.
@bagamax
@bagamax Жыл бұрын
Great NAS! I wish there will be a rack mount version of this with inegrated PSU, or an optional casemod.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I wish. Rack mount is a bit hard for the serviceability of the units with double sided components
@bagamax
@bagamax Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo it's easy to construct a 1u case where the board will mount to the walls in mid height so both top and bottom lids will be openable. Such volume management is just historically unpopular, 1 lid cases few cents cheaper in production.
@JSiuDev
@JSiuDev Жыл бұрын
Perfect backup system.
@sanders5417
@sanders5417 Жыл бұрын
Load 'er up with Sabrent 8 TB M.2 next!
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Our old SSD reviewer now does marketing at Sabrent. We talked about it. I think 12x $1K 8TB drives puts the cost of the system into the price range you are better off getting a higher-performance NAS.
@sanders5417
@sanders5417 Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Of course, but it would have been funny and interesting to see it decked out to the maximum it can do.
@nicekeyboardalan6972
@nicekeyboardalan6972 Жыл бұрын
I agree lol sounds funny since this thing is such a POS in a way lol
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo haha but you can do it for the memes!
@doodoogtube
@doodoogtube 10 күн бұрын
The first thing I absolutely thought of when I saw these were storage and not anything robust like 4k video editing. I’m looking to get into something like this because I do not want to buy spinning hard drives in 2024.
@SRMB1
@SRMB1 4 ай бұрын
Hows the plex/jellyfin performance w a celeron? Thanks for vid?
@tonykaye2
@tonykaye2 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if they had a configuration for rack mount with built in power supply and everything ( status lights, power button usb connection, etc) up front.
@wyattarich
@wyattarich Жыл бұрын
Did you try single & dual rank 32GB sticks?
@RayneYoruka
@RayneYoruka Жыл бұрын
Finally this video dropped!
@redtails
@redtails Жыл бұрын
with how loud helium drives are when accessing data, I can see why you'd want to go flash. Can't wait for a few more years of downwards- spiraling flash prices. It really shouldn't be that expensive to make flash storage when done as efficiently as possible without emphasizing speed.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Yes. We had a QNAP NAS that we will be reviewing on the main site in the next week or two next to these. The noise difference is very noticeable.
@postnick
@postnick Жыл бұрын
So - The HDMI port - do they have a TV interface and run plex or somet TV interface?
@Christopher-lb6rf
@Christopher-lb6rf 8 ай бұрын
If you don't recommend this, you have something you recommend if you want to go 6 or more NVME? The CPU was the biggest concern I had about the 12 Pro version.
@moparneon00
@moparneon00 Жыл бұрын
Would you think this would be a great upgrade solution for hosting a plex server. I currently use asustor 4bay system for my plex server. Also does this support raid 5?
@jmespoii
@jmespoii 9 ай бұрын
@servethehome So if I'm following, you are not recommending this for a 4k video use NAS. Correct?
@thedanyesful
@thedanyesful Жыл бұрын
I want to see the output on the HDMI port. Did you try that?
@RetroBerner
@RetroBerner Жыл бұрын
There's IcyDock 5 1/4" bay devices that can fit some ridiculous amount of m.2 drives, I'm just gonna grab a few of those when I am ready to ditch mechanical drives
@t0mz3n75
@t0mz3n75 11 ай бұрын
Did Simeone try to run Unraid on this? Is the BIOS accessible to Switch the Boot device?
@velociraptor5962
@velociraptor5962 Жыл бұрын
There should be a usb c connection on the 12 version to connect directly to a computer, as well as that 10gbe. Pretty good, and tempting, to be able to store, but also do cheap vms.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Super idea. I think the N5105 is limited in terms of high-speed IO lanes. This is already pushing the platform pretty far. Hopefully on a refresh that would be possible.
@keithsauer3574
@keithsauer3574 Жыл бұрын
But compared to the Synology DS620slim… 6 bay 2.5”. Maybe the 2.5” SSD’s are a hair cheaper, but it only has gig. This Asustor has 2.5gb on its 6 bay version. This also has up to 16GB ram when Synology has 2 to start and upgradable to 6. So which one will be a better plex server and mapped drive / network storage for an average home user with macs and pc’s? I’m kinda leaning towards the Asustor. As long as you know it’s limitations, what it is and what it isn’t… I think this is a really neat little box. Would love to see plex benchmarks. Wish it had just a slightly better CPU, however I do appreciate the low power consumption in an era where power bills are going up and up.
@alvarosalgadoc
@alvarosalgadoc Жыл бұрын
HOLA, Saludos desde Chile. No conozco esta NAS, que tal funcionaria para correr maquinas virtuales y rapidez en general con muchos procesos ?
@MikeHeller
@MikeHeller Жыл бұрын
Is there any drawback to connecting the NAS to a Mac Studio with SSD for the 10G speed and the rest of the computers on the network via ethernet? Do you get the same functionality in terms of storage and apps? Looking at 6-bay unit.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Usually you would just use a switch with at least two 10Gbase-T ports and plug one into the Mac Studio and one into the 10Gbase-T NAS port. That will work great.
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 Жыл бұрын
funny, i was actually considering of making something similar by using the odroid h3/h3+ but i cannot find any way to convert a m.2 pci-e x4 into more m.2 (m/b can bifuricate), only sata. m.2 are so much smaller and you don;t need the fastest for this type of nas. i will prob. go for sata ssds.
@nananaaru4890
@nananaaru4890 Жыл бұрын
Hi, did you try downclocking the 64GB ram configuration and test the system stability that way? I had bought a 3200MHz 32GB x 2 sodimm DDR4 on a similar mini ITX NAS, and despite it was "supported" 64GB, it could not run stable. Then I had the big brain idea to go into the BIOS and force the ram to run in 2400MHz mode instead of letting it go at 3200MHz. The system runs stable to this day. However my processor is not a N5105, so I am curious if you could test again using the 64GB configuration and set the ram clock speeds lower to see if that fixes your crashing issues.
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