HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini Review 1L 35W PC

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In our HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini review, we see what this 35W TDP 1L PC offers and how it compares to its Dell and Lenovo competition
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
02:37 External Hardware Overview
07:56 Internal Hardware Overview
11:10 Intel Core i5-10500T Performance Jump
12:15 Power Consumption and Noise
14:40 Comparing HP, Dell, and Lenovo
18:36 Final Words
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[@dustyloooza7602]

All the answers to my questions are here. Thank you, STH.

[@Airbag888]

3:25 that's a cool boom box you got there on your shoulder 😇

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Slamming sounds

[@vibertoo]

I really like how the video looks now with the new camera.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Thanks for the feedback. A bit more like the older videos given that shallow depth of field

[@TechMeOut5]

Thanks for this video. looks like an excellent mini pc.

[@Colestol]

The Video is looking good. Sound is great (good bass/low frequencies recorded from the host). Keep up with the good work.

[@hcjkruse]

Yes you can get thunderbolt for this one. I wish That the hp website or those of third party vendors are a bit less confusing. Had to read information 3 times before ordering an USB-C for an older system.

[@hcjkruse]

Curious about the 1650Ti option for gaming

[@Psychoelysi]

The video was good but I can tell the difference when there is faster movement. At first I thought it was my monitor until you mentioned you were using a different camera. And looked back at other videos too rule out that something else was not going on. Either way it was good just felt movement was smoother on the Canon. Or it can just be my imagination also. Great job by the way always look forward to new videos.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

It is certainly a trade-off. With the second vaccine now thinking about what it will mean to travel and I think this is "good enough" to use but I will likely do another test video soon.

[@TweakMDS]

For a modest homelab with something like Proxmox or XCP-NG, I think the slightly older Lenovo M720Q still offers the best value. Mine was $400 used, with an i5-9400T (so no vPro), a single 16GB module and a 512GB nvme SSD. I added an additional 2.5" 512GB SSD and a second 16GB module. Really solid homelab hypervisor for a total of around $550 - 600.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Totally. We are doing this series just to collect some data on what this generation offers. The $300-350 Core i5-8500T boxes are often awesome values as well.

[@felixgunawan9230]

Hi Patrick, I wonder if there is any Mini/1L PC that can be powered by USB Type C instead of the DC in? Thanks!

[@divv8079]

It would be awesome with a fan noise db comparison of all of these mini pc’s. I dont doubt the performance, what im concerned about is that they will all sound like jet engines when I compile code all day

[@HugeVictor]

I have a G5 and it will let things get VERY hot (80c) before the fan starts ramping up. You can raise the base speed, which helps idle temperature but when things get hot, it gets noisy.

[@SteveFisher-vc9pe]

Ha Ha Jet engines, that's exactly Right :)

[@jassjaup]

FYI... I just bought 1 home use intended Lenovo MINI series to test in my home lab, maybe it would be good to include it in this series, seems to be stripped down of there Tiny series, but what are the diffrences? Lenovo IdeaCentre Mini 5 01IMH05

[@CarthagoMike]

Will you do a comparison between the 35w and 65w versions sometime?

[@888lawrence]

Can I ask if the fan is noisy? Currently I’m suing prodesk 400 and it can be noisy sometimes. Let me know if you can as I’m thinking about upgrading to this one. Thanks!

[@samthorne8840]

Where do I find more information on adding a discreet video card to this computer? I heard you mention it.

[@thomebau895]

I dont know why they still do not offer a upc version of these tiny machines with basically a notebook battery integrated as an optional module....

[@piman2boek364]

Camera and sound were good during this video

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Thanks for the feedback. Took a bit of work. Still not good enough but OK-ish enough to go live

[@satamototo]

I dream about 1L PC with dual Intel Gigs, common pcie X16 slot and riser

[@denvera1g1]

I tried to order -this- the 805G6 mini a few months ago with 4750GE and 1660TI for a space constrained VR training setup, but due to supply constraints we were unable to get them And i'd like to thank apple for adding 10g networking option on the Mac Mini, it really helps me out with the one i've had since launch

[@Fainthen]

From memory, Lenovo pcs have always been easier to upgrade in terms of parts, even when it comes to laptops compared to HP and Dell machines, then again that's anecdotal.

[@denvera1g1]

What microphone were you using, i've been looking at that digital Mi microphone, and the new wireless one

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Same Rode NTG4+ as normal. Just sounds better on the Canon out of camera than this

[@denvera1g1]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo That is so weird that it would sound so different, hope it isnt some sort of underhanded tactic to push people to buy their integrated digital mics, or worse, i hope their digital mics dont sound just as bad

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

@@denvera1g1 I think it is: a) my inexperience with the FX3 and b) just a different internal recorder/ pre-amp setup. I may try another one this week depending on how vaccine shot #2 hits me.

[@logikgr]

Let's engage! On the road to 100K.

[@ovidiuDoc]

Hi,I just bought one of these and I was wondering where can I find a GPU for it, because I cand find any type of GPU that woud fit it, I do have and 2.5 rack inside. If there ia a GPU for it maybe you can tell me how it's called

[@bobbagum]

the 'charging' icon on the front type c could be misconstrued as a thunderbolt port and it's on the other type a port as well

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

This is pretty standard, but I can certainly see how it would be confusing.

[@chenseanxy]

Why not the A7S3 tho, essentially the same camera with more features and cheaper. Is it the audio adapter?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

This is basically just for a more portable solution. The Canon C70's/ R5 combination is awesome, and frankly, the C70 is much better for the studio camera. The lack of the viewfinder hump is good, handle with XLR is nice (adding the XLR-K3M effectively negates the cost delta.) Fan for cooling also helps. Other little features like the tally lamp and mounting holes without a cage are a big deal for me and what I want to use it for. Overall, I like the Canon (much) better but the FX3 made more sense than the A7S III for me for this use case.

[@believlle]

Not sure it is a good idea to put RAM slot under the fan for dust reason, would it lead to bad contact in a long run? and flexible port is not more flexible than a PCIe slot like the best ones on lenovo or dell :)

[@cldpt]

Both Dell and HP have been doing these boxes with ram under the blower fan since like 1st gen Intel (2010?), so I'd say it's fine. Also note that the pcie slot on the Thinkstation is NOT standard and you need custom adapters which: 1. Are mega rare; 2. Are stupid expensive at 50-100usd; 3. Have 3 (!!!) options for pcie x1, x4 and x8 (I think); and last but not least 4. The adapters actually turn the angle of pcie connection 90 degrees, so if you wanted to use a standard with the cover open, like a GPU or an m.2 expansion, think again because it's gonna be trouble. In my opinion, if you wanted to expand of these boxes, either HP, ThinkPad or Dell, you should just go with an m.2 to pcie riser which are the same price as Lenovo's, but at least angle wherever you want (although the Dell is not a great option due to single m.2 x4). These would be either the ADT-Link R43SG for m-key or if you wanna go for the wifi slot instead, they also have the R53SF (that will be x1 lanes only...). Do remember that you will need a power supply, but I'm guessing most people who would use these already expected the device they will plug won't power from the mini PC

[@believlle]

@@cldpt nice points. I like the lenovo ones which has ram and m.2 slots under back cover, with 920x you have two m.2 slots. I only imagined to expand the box with a 10gig nic which is fairly "easy" on a lenovo 920q or 920x with pci raiser and I have seen many people did it already.

[@angryapple1882]

Hi Patrick, so I am a ios developer, and I wanted to know what would be best. I have a home sever should I run my programs that run on xcode from my Apple computer or run them from my home server. The reason I ask is because it would be easier for me to back my data. Thanks!

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

The Mac Mini M1 16GB with 10GbE arrived just before this video was recorded. It is great! 10GbE to external storage is very useful.

[@UnwittingSweater]

Got the 805 coming in a few days (hopefully 🤞)

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Very jealous! Those were too expensive when we purchased these a few weeks ago.

[@UnwittingSweater]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo There was a deal on them last month in the UK for a couple of hundred off. No idea why as the demand is so high for these ryzen APUs. Still a higher price but a lot machine for the money so I'm hoping it lasts me a while. Love this series BTW 👍.

[@NielsMayer]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo i purchased my HP 805G6 (with 4750G) at a pretty heavy discount in February and received it in March after long delay. Just like lenovo, the "list" price is nearly double what you actually pay if you buy during their various seasonal sales. it is a great machine, nicely HP-over-engineered chassis inside, and easy to expand. This is the first "pre-built" machine I've bought in decades and it's nice to see that the internals and chassis are of similar quality to what you'd get in a custom build. I added a second NVMe drive just for linux, leaving the windows drive in its original state. I also added a second bank of identical RAM "16GB DDR4 3200MHz DIMM PC4-25600 CL22 1Rx8 1.2V 288-Pin UDIMM Desktop RAM Memory Module M378A2G43AB3-CWE" (these systems are weirdly shipped with only one bank of single-rank RAM, so you probably want to add a second (or even third and fourth) additional single rank modules.) Prior to solving my ethernet woes (see below) I was considering adding a half height PCIE "Asus 10Gbps Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express, Network Adapter PCIe 2.0/3.0 X4 SFP+") The main issue I had is with linux and the built-in ethernet. To get Ubuntu 20.04.2LTS running (must be .2 with the 5.8 kernel, the 5.4 in 20.04 and 20.04.1 won't boot). You need to install the r8168-dkms package "dkms source for the r8168 network driver"... and even then it doesn't work, although it pretends to see the ethernet device. To get working ethernet you need to turn off "PCIE power management" in the BIOS as-well. Otherwise the network device is "asleep" and never talks to the RJ-45. [[if anybody has a fix for this, let me know, as i'd like to be able to have "PCIE power management" running]]... The one other problem I've had is that my unit came with a "free" third display port in the flex-port slot (I'd have preferred 2.5G ethernet). THe only problem is that if you plug a display into it, all the displays die, and if you use it by itself, nothing is displayed). But since I'm using it with 2 4K displays day to day the third display was always an "optional" thing as opposed to a requirement. FYI the 4750G's built in Radeon GPU seems to handle 2x4K displays "ok", though in at least one area of my GPU-using software, i notice some GL scrolling text jitter and sluggishness that doesn't occur on my reliable old powerhog RxVega56 card., nor any of my mobile device GPU's running the same software). TODO: see if 5.12 kernel, or 2 additional single banks or RAM fixes the "jitter" which you won't see in any normal usage, such as KDE Plasma or Gnome Desktop.

[@umuti.6727]

Comparing the HP / Lenovo / Dell 10500T, which one is more silent ?

[@Pressbutan]

If you need USB ports, get the HP. If you want value, get the Dell (I went for a 5080 and it's fine) - if you have a Lenovo account, get the M90q.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

That is the basic idea. The OptiPlex 7080 is probably the more direct competitor since it can use vPro.

[@KevinSiebert]

Zen 3 would be awesome

[@robh1521]

Is there anyway of purchasing the discrete GPU for this unit? There's no video of how to install in the DGPU slot? Thank you

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

HP has a service guide, but you usually want to order this with a dGPU

[@robh1521]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo any chance you can link me to that video please? Thanks

[@robh1521]

Mine came with a single stick of 16gb ram module and the Ryzen 7 pro 4750ge

[@robh1521]

You make popping the top off look so easy! Mine won't come off at all, is there a particular trick to it? Thanks

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Unscrew the back (assuming there is a screw) and then just look at which direction the front and rear are moving to open up like that.

[@robh1521]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo thanks for getting back to me, there is no screw in the back, as I bought this unit new on eBay, but it didn't come with the original packaging, do I need to apply pressure? It just doesn't want to move. Thanks

[@user-pj9mo5od6b]

Good stuff.

[@TechTechPotato]

For the algorithm 👍

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Thanks bud

[@micromonde]

Anyone know of any small form factor MINI pc that can work with Linux and without a keyboard and monitor attached?

[@MHBGT]

You should review the AMD 4000G series edition.

[@OrlandoPaco]

Hello! Does this pc support 10th gen i9 10900T?

[@alexmwangi]

I can almost swear STH reviewed a 1 litre unit with a discrete GPU but I can't seem to find it in the playlists, if you read this and know what it was titled kindly reply with the title... :) Also hoping to see these units flood the market in bigger numbers soon as corporations prepare for Windows 11 system requirements.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

P330, p320, m920x

[@djdontgetcooked]

Hey, there! I have a gaming PC that I dont want to use for work. Would you recommend this computer for Software Development. I run 2 Intelij Ideas, a Java Server and a Web Server. Im thinking between this and HP G9 SFF i5-12500. I know i5-12500 is a lot better than i5-10500T but for me form factor is really important

[@djdontgetcooked]

I did a lot of research. I found a great deal Elitedesk G6 Ryzen 4650GE 16GB and 512 SSD Brand new unopened with full 2 year warranty and Win10 Pro for 550 Euro. Based on the stats 4650GE beats 10500(Not T) in every bench with only 35 Watts. It would have been amazing to get a lower price without the Win 10 Pro and the 512 SSD but due to the chip shortage I just did not find any other deals with better CPUs below 900-1000 Euros. Still the machine is Dead silent with great temps and performance. Just what I needed

[@richardsorge-]

Hi ! Is there a way to implemant subtitles in Your video ? Thank You

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

You should be able to use KZbin's CC feature.

[@richardsorge-]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo It's greyed out in your videos, not selectable ... But don't worry, Your english Is very good, the words I loose are few.

[@Panslapper]

Still no USB C at the rear....why not?

[@keeperofthegood]

7:21 they did that wrong, they are supposed to, by the standards, differentiate by colour the different USB ports. Most companies have gone with blue and black as the two colours of choice.

[@precisionxt]

They started this crap with the 400/600/800 G3 series and I assume it was a cosmetic choice due to the updated fascia. I also prefer the different colored ports signifying USB 2.0 & USB 3.0/3.1

[@jt3000o]

You know where I can find performance metrics for the one that has the 1660 TI

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Trying to have HP build me one. Not successful so far

[@jt3000o]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo man that's tough that would be a great little piece of hardware

[@badmonster8105]

any 805 G6 unit?

[@Ian_Carolan]

Actually highlighting or indicating the ports you are talking about would be useful.

[@pixelking_871]

Are they upgradable to windows 11 though?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

So far all of the 8th Gen Core and newer systems we have get Win 11

[@edouard1580]

If it had Dual Intel NIC.... shut up and take my money!!!!

[@Zizzily]

It has an on-board i219LM Gigabit NIC and you can get a second Ethernet port, either RJ-45 or SFP, in the flexport slot, and one of the options seems to be the i225LM 2.5 Gbps NIC.

[@thedanyesful]

That's shocking HP doesn't take the basic step of labeling their ports. A classic case of corporate bungling as far as I'm concerned.

[@DonalRomano]

.... How do you reset its BIOS password?

[@cldpt]

Thunderbolt3? THUNDERBOLT3?! Is this the first 1L PC that isn't using a laptop CPU which has Thunderbolt 3? I bet this must've cost the a fortune to certify, because I can't see Intel allowing such blasphemy. If there's one thing I don't get, it's why nobody other than Apple thought of doing this... Or why Intel still hasn't made a NUC with a Desktop or T part...

[@brentgreeff1115]

1660TI - nice - that seems quite unique in this size.

[@cldpt]

And Thunderbolt! From what I understood, the flex port for tb3 is NOT the same as the discrete GPU (flex 1 vs flex 2)

[@chai_reddy]

Why don't they put Ryzens in these things?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

That is the 805 G6. It was out of our budget at the time we purchased these.

[@jester667]

Maybe because Intel conspiring with vendors against AMD was part of their business strategy for a while?

[@KevinSiebert]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo is the 705 series dead?

[@draconightwalker4964]

ill say this. either the camera or your backdrop is crooked. much more showing on the left panels then the right side. look at the bottom row of panels

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

This is offset a few degrees from straight on as well. I am actually turned a bit at the table to do this one.

[@Anime-kk8xk]

hi can hp 800 mini computer handle streaming

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Yes

[@Anime-kk8xk]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo thanks

[@excitedbox5705]

Can't wait for more AMD mini pcs to hit the market. I have been looking for years but nobody made anything with the new gen CPUs.

[@hvasya]

Chinese manufacture produce a lot of this. Even on 6th gen ryzen.

[@richardsorge-]

I still don't get it. Here an Elite desk G6 is 650/1000 k reconditioned.... with that money You can get a full rig with a proper video card... so why buy this machine that furthermore has no optical drive option.... ( I have many games on DVD, how am I suppesed to install them without buying an external drive?

[@NoEgg4u]

I sat through a 19 minute video, and our host did not tell us what it cost.

[@michaelsurber]

Depends on configuration, Walmart has them right around $500+

[@dockaos924]

Let's talk about the price never mentions the prices 🙄

[@Rouxenator]

I left when I saw this was an intel unit, not AMD.

[@joshua.o.makundi3079]

no hdmi port

[@studioxxswe]

100M SFP? yea what?

[@albertotironi1718]

HDMI ??????????????

[@Serb46]

that eyebrows

[@NA12495]

I have a hard time trusting Lenovo after the stupid stuff they pulled when they bought that brand from IBM.

[@UnwittingSweater]

Have any of you EliteDesks had a perforated lid like in this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHjTXnSlr5Jrlck

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Those tend to be the 65W models. We do have one of those as well in this generation

[@UnwittingSweater]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo OK cool thank you. 👍

[@atlfan3131]

Comment!

[@petermagnusson8917]

comment about comment

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

@@petermagnusson8917 Commenting about your comment about comment

[@SJM2]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo No comment.

[@logikgr]

Awesome avatar pic. 👏

[@bertimusz4151]

Intel sucks