Serving Dong Zhuo | The Greatest Warrior Lu Bu Let's Talk Lore Part 02

[@tonys9397]

I was shocked to learn Red Hare was real way back when. Given their personalities I’d say Dong and Lü were made made for each other XD

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

"So you made Lu Bu your bodyguard even though you threw a halberd at him and he wants one of your female servants? Aren't you worried because you know how incredibly petty he is and that betrayal is like, his main thing?!" Some Court Advisor to Dong Zhuo (probably)

[@onsholo]

The historical Lu Bu is even more of a Chad than the fictional one.

[@Potatoes85858]

Lu Bu was disloyal, but man, he knew how to seize an opportunity when it presented itself! From a low birth secretary with no future prospects (as his potential benefactors were dead) to so many promotions in a few years, to even later becoming a warlord. It's amazing he even got as far as he did.

[@michaelbandada9887]

Thou shall not pursue Lu Bu and the idea of picking a fight against Lu Bu at Hulao Gate in countless Dynasty Warriors games is an instant death sentence

[@alexhess1163]

Their relationship rapidly "escalated." Hmmm sounds spicy. I'd always suspected that Dong Zhou got mad ad Lu Bu not because he wanted Diaochan, but because he was jilted.

[@patrickdormeus8453]

Sun Jian beat Lu bu because Lu bu wanted his superior officer dead. Sigma male mindset music INTENSIFIES

[@lolasdm6959]

The wolve of Hulao pass

[@InfernalDarkOne]

Thank you for setting the historcial tale of Lu bu, I was so deep in the games I thought that was legit. Minus Dio chan which the games even say is a fake character.

[@AlexaRobin21]

Whether romance or historical, Lü Bu is always one spicy lobster boy.

[@Matti133]

This is fantastic to learn the truth, I'm so interested in this time period of China.

[@arcomegis9999]

Can you do one that explains the name of the offices and titles in the game ? The Chinese characters would make it easier to track where that certain title is mentioned in the story, but I am clueless to when a character was bestowed that certain title or what that title meant.

[@SeriousTrivia]

Already done one. here is the playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLV2U5Ov1FXfCyaw0O3xDxwl_MNvv3KQAc

[@arcomegis9999]

@@SeriousTrivia Thank you so much.

[@Potatoes85858]

More, more! :D

[@peterhsu1921]

its so ironic that the greatest warrior is also meanwhile the most notoriously treacherous man in history...

[@billyvue98]

With how bad Lu Bu is as a general he should just be a secretary

[@liviubostan7229]

Harsh man,that was harsh

[@liviubostan7229]

@@demonfromhell2022 I didn't reply to you,but to OP

[@walmcs]

Hi Mr. Trivia. Love your content for several years now, keep it up!! Can you help me to why episode 3 through 6 is listes as ‘private videos’ and i cant see them? I have really been looking forward to this series. Best regards from Denmark.

[@SeriousTrivia]

The series comes out 2 episodes a week on Saturday and Sunday at 3 PM EST. But I prerecord the episodes so ones that I have already scheduled will show up as private and only go live once the time comes

[@nobblkpraetorian5623]

You mentioned that Red Hare appears later in the historical record, but how about Sky Piercer? Was it a real weapon?

[@SeriousTrivia]

We will mention this in the next episode but the short answer is no. Entirely fiction. No one would use that heavy of a weapon on horse back

[@lazyc0mmander277]

I wonder, did you ever talk about Li Ru being the one who convinced Lu Bu to betray Ding Yuan in one of your lore series. The man was pretty instrumental to a lot of Dong Zhuo's schemes, but I feel like he's often overlooked by most people since he's such clear-cut disreputable individual. So much so that I'm not even capable of remembering what happened to him ultimately.

[@SeriousTrivia]

That is purely romance and not historical

[@Atom523]

Being a secretary would that imply that Lu Bu was reasonably educated as I assume that part of the job required reading and writing?

[@SeriousTrivia]

yes he would be at least literate

[@Atom523]

@@SeriousTrivia not that his actions were justified but I can imagine the frustration of training constantly and becoming a great fighter and then be told that your entire future is going to be taking notes for a person who probably won't be able to help you advance any further. Killing him is a bit extreme though.

[@SeriousTrivia]

I mean zhu bu was basically the right hand man of the general so it is not really say a desk job for life. Liao Hua was Guan Yu's zhu bu and went on to become a full pledged general later on in life.

[@Atom523]

@@SeriousTrivia well in Liao Hua's situation things were a bit different as the man he was taking notes for died and he only became an actual general many years later if I am not mistaken. Though yes I agree that there were different ways for Lu Bu to become a general instead of murdering his boss. That usually is frowned upon.

[@shaggycan]

@@Atom523 yeah, it's still a serious betrayal, not to the level of killing an adopted father, especially in a society that values filial piety so much, but certainly a moral person would judge it treachery.

[@orirotem2298]

Dong zhuo 💙💛

[@josephkush1032]

When need lu bu in warhammer 3, bing chilling 🥵

[@Verralind]

Maybe a stupid question; what if Lu Bu killed the Donger when he threw one of those ji's towards him? Couldn't he claim self defence, as Donger was known to be temperamentful man.

[@eliu868]

He would definitely have been executed right there and then by Dong Zhuo's other subordinates cause, you know, he just killed the man in charge. Self defense wouldn't have gotten him anywhere.

[@SeriousTrivia]

lol self defense. This is not the age of fair trial...

[@laurbster2680]

just imagine kim jong il or w.e from north korea did the same thing and shot at one of his generals but that general shot him dead in "self defense" it wouldnt fly lol

[@liviubostan7229]

Why were the young emperors called Lord Shi and Dong respectively. And what was a Lord in Han civilisation?

[@SeriousTrivia]

I have answered this in a prior lore series (fall of the Han and I think Dong Zhuo as well) but essentially, both were nicknames and not official titles. Lord Shi was nicknamed after the Taoist monk who raised him outside of the palace because Liu Hong had a string of sons dying as babies so he felt cursed and had Liu Bian raised outside of the palace by Taoists since he was superstitious and the Taoist rising him was surnamed Shi. Lord Dong is similar but the nickname is from empress dowager Dong who raised him as his birth mother was killed by Empress He so to protect him from being killed by the Empress as well he was given over to the Empress Dowager (Emperor’s mother) to raise.

[@liviubostan7229]

@@SeriousTrivia Thanks,that was really insightful. I thought that Lord was similar to Marquise but reserved for the Royal clan,and not just a simple nickname

[@SeriousTrivia]

Translation issue for the most part

[@Triple.7]

How does ppl in that Era sees Lu bu executing their own "boss" Ding Yuan? Especially Zhang Liao ,followers etc.?. Maybe will be in the other episode. Evntho they were not there but, I'm sure ppl knew that he did it . Ding Yuan didn't do anything wrong. ( just curious)

[@SeriousTrivia]

Much like how you would see it today. Lu Bu was seen as a treacherous, greedy, and untrustworthy man

[@armmine5316]

So the Red Hare did exist, belonged to Lu Bu (but not Guan Yu), but was never a gift from Dong Zhou?

[@SeriousTrivia]

Correct

[@nowherefool5869]

do you have a playlist that's in the right chronological order? i'm unsure which lore videos i should start watching first in sequence, unless i go start using wikipedia or something as a guide, which kinda defeats the purpose of watching your videos.. since i'll probably just end up reading the whole thing instead of watching.

[@SeriousTrivia]

I have not shifted the series in chronological order, but it is definitely something I should do although some of the series are event focus while others are character focused so it is hard to say when you should watch what. Of the top of my head, start with 1. Fall of the Han, 2. Yellow Turban Rebellion, 3. Dong Zhuo the Last Tyrant then you can pick which warlord's life you want to start with as Sun Jian, Sun Ce should be watched back to back, Cao Cao has like three series covering his childhood to capturing the Emperor and Lu Bu is also a character based on. like I said, I need to sort this out soon too to figure out what I am missing and where things should go where

[@SeriousTrivia]

oh I offer way more than wikipedia so just watching them even out of order isn't really going to ruin your experience as if the series need prior series, I will mention it and the playlist is chronological in terms of when I made them so I will never refer to a series that I haven't already made if that makes any sense