Set Your Suspension Clickers With THIS Protocol!

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@pacwestenduroriders7911
@pacwestenduroriders7911 Ай бұрын
IRC Tire Guy officially has the best bike content vs anyone else IMO. Thank you again!!!
@todayweride4779
@todayweride4779 Ай бұрын
This was so well timed I was constantly having issues with suspension setup as im useless at it and used the settings in the manual always blowing through the forks etc. I changed fork and spring to suit my weight thinking that would make all the difference and it didn't. Im on a TE 250 2016 with WP 4CS forks which I heard were ordinary due to issues. Surprisingly without any re-valving just stock yesterday I applied the exact same settings as Rich shows and I was blown away by the difference. When I hear anyone complaining about their suspension Im pointing them to this channel its changed my complete riding experience. If I lived in the USA I would be at one of your clinics yesterday. Awesome and thankyou now I know what it feels like to have great suspension even if its not perfect it is to me compared to what I was doing and im no longer blowing through my forks and the rear is sticking to the obstacle.
@robh3267
@robh3267 Ай бұрын
Nice to see a company developing suspension mods for a reasonable cost, most hardware upgrades for forks , other than just changing shims, is around $1200 to$1500, suspension setup is the most misunderstood and difficult to setup but the benefits of good suspension can be the difference between misery and thrilling fun, I prefer to get my suspension working well for me and then just leave the clickers alone from there.
@panic-revv85
@panic-revv85 Ай бұрын
I paid $ 980 for a full Ride JBI setup. It is absolutely stellar!
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Ай бұрын
At 20:13 to 20:28 and 28:52 all the way to the end of the video showed some boss enduro riding with excellent body position and leg push for ultimate traction, well done!!! And finally a Roamer sighting at 35:29!!!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Thanks for that! I really appreciate it!
@mxrx3786
@mxrx3786 Ай бұрын
My Grandmother made Peach Cobbler from "scratch" it was amazing I had no idea you could make suspension components from it. I don't know what scratch is, but all the good stuff seems to be made from it.
@roddas26
@roddas26 26 күн бұрын
Wow, thanks for making this. Awesome info, awesome trails and awesome riding.🤙 Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
@cannonsmith7429
@cannonsmith7429 17 күн бұрын
Great video! Thanks for all the tips you share with us humans. The explanation behind the feelings why you would change a setting are so helpful.
@jimg.4913
@jimg.4913 12 күн бұрын
Great vids - thanks! Question: what are your thoughts on small adjustments to fork height to aid in front end cornering behavior?
@Mkruzer
@Mkruzer Ай бұрын
great video rich. ive watched AXC's development on these and last time i saw josh, he explained that the red cones are a way to bridge the gap when zapping across high speed rough sections, were we want the compression, but then hold up in technical sections where we dont wanna blow through the stroke. sounds like that's what they gave you. with as fast and as far as you can push a suspension you are probably feeling the limits of what the cones can do. the rest of us will probably have a better experience with them... allowing us to run even softer compression and holding us up in those hard hits.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Completely agree brotha! 🙌🙌
@chestonscout95
@chestonscout95 Ай бұрын
Josh is a long haired stud! Alpine XC does all my suspension work 😎
@kent426
@kent426 Ай бұрын
The bike set up tips and comparisons are awesome
@alonsoarredondo6969
@alonsoarredondo6969 Ай бұрын
great videos !!! So, the clicks you take back at the end of the video, are starting from the comfort setting?
@DmitriyAdv
@DmitriyAdv Ай бұрын
Great video, really enjoyed all the details! Did both the forks get a revalve? Any special hardware added to the shock?
@breeno59
@breeno59 Ай бұрын
Love all the detailed explanations of your approach. Super useful.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Olli315
@Olli315 Ай бұрын
I don´t understand everything, because i don´t speak english that much weell, but i can not stop to see you riding. For me is the softer, slower adjustment better too...i don´t like it when the bike ist jumping to much... And fanaly the dog is by you...hes just great.
@RiderTalkHQ
@RiderTalkHQ Ай бұрын
It’s worth mentioning that the $295 price is for ONE fork, pairs are 590 and up.
@cowpker4life333
@cowpker4life333 3 күн бұрын
Wonder how close it is to suspension 101 sprung midvalves. 295 for a set(a cone valve desgin)
@donovanbkennedy
@donovanbkennedy Ай бұрын
I really appreciated the simple theory behind starting with a softer suspension and gradually making it stiffer. It’s much easier to recognize when the suspension is too soft. Thanks for the insightful tips!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Stoked! Thanks for watching!
@beefyjoe
@beefyjoe Ай бұрын
Remember folks, a couple clicks can make a big difference. Don’t go crazy, and write down your changes
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Great tip!!
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 Ай бұрын
such a hard and thorough worker man, thanks all
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate that!
@shawnh2590
@shawnh2590 Ай бұрын
Hey Rich, have you done any gearing changes to this bike? Or do you feel like the stock 13/45 gearing is adequate?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
13-49 currently
@shawnh2590
@shawnh2590 Ай бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto awesome thanks man!
@twowheelsintransit
@twowheelsintransit Ай бұрын
Crazy good timing for me. I'm going to buy a set of cone valve forks and a trax shock tomorrow for a 2019 Husky TX 300 (last carb enduro bike) that I just bought. £3000 for the bike and £650 for the forks and shock, I can't say no at that value... even if I'm nowhere near good enough to be hitting the limit of stock stuff!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
That's awesome man! I hope the testing protocol works for you!!
@Mineratron
@Mineratron Ай бұрын
I’m only an intermediate rider and I’ve got an ex-pro’s old cones and Trax setup in my 2015 300EXC. Paid £400 plus service costs for them. They’re 10yrs old same as the bike and still work great. The cone mid-valve really does give that plush/hard feeling. They’re very versatile, I can set mine from hard enduro to XC… but for real hold up in the desert 🇦🇪 I can go up a spring rate too. Cool video and very interesting suspension solution… thanks for sharing. Been thinking about similar for my 23 AER forks.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
@mineratron thanks so much for watching man! I’m glad the testing protocol resonates with you!
@Mineratron
@Mineratron Ай бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto yessir 🫡 if you want a good setup window, you need to put the work in. Loops upon loops upon loops. 🦾
@eltonaraujo6603
@eltonaraujo6603 2 күн бұрын
Thank you another time.....
@keshmo12
@keshmo12 Ай бұрын
When I was adjusting my gasgas 300 xc suspension I went by the book. Thought I would like soft but it rode bad, then tried "sport" and it was a little better. Ended up having to go like 3-4 clicks past sport to get it feeling good. I was surprised because I'm a mid level B rider and 155-160 pounds. I could definitely see how fast guys need a suspension revalve.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Absolutely!!
@mutstang66
@mutstang66 Ай бұрын
Iv still got stock suspension on my 300L. Planning on getting a new shock cuz it feels like a pogo stick. Front isn't horrible but little too soft for doing Enduro type riding. Great videos. Wish you made more. Hahaha.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Dang man! More than a video a week??? There’s like 300+ on the channel 😂
@mutstang66
@mutstang66 Ай бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto You make good videos. The way you break everything down & explain the technique of each step make it very easy to practice them & know where the mistakes are happening. One video a week is great. Lucky if I even get to ride once a week.
@dmumladze
@dmumladze Ай бұрын
What's you sag set at just curious and also how low you drop the forks from triple clamps if any at all?
@jimg.4913
@jimg.4913 12 күн бұрын
"Toe the line" - old school boxing term. Originally boxers did not move around a ring but rather they would put their foot on a line on the ground and fight in place. The fight would begin with the referee calling out "Gentlemen....toe the line".
@endurocox5467
@endurocox5467 Ай бұрын
Thanks Rich. Very helpful
@zhengfang5291
@zhengfang5291 Ай бұрын
What did you do to improve the the brakes on 24 Husq with braktec brake?
@970RADO
@970RADO Ай бұрын
If you’re doing test runs on turn tracks vs hard enduro are you adjusting your fork height or setting and leaving it?
@mtpkts7431
@mtpkts7431 Ай бұрын
When you spring it up to your weight+gear for hard enduro, do you go one rate softer?
@human1513
@human1513 Ай бұрын
Good helpful video. But no one ever tells how to deterrmine what preload to set the forks at or how to determine an appropriate setting for spring or air type forks. Everyone and their dog talks about rear sag but never the front sag. I am thinking this is part of setting up a bike for front to rear balance. And for travelled used.
@braaap6292
@braaap6292 Ай бұрын
Would it be a good idea to go back to the initial settings at the end of the day to see if the lap times are worse again? Maybe the times are faster just because of practice thrpug the day?
@JoshDurston
@JoshDurston Ай бұрын
Wish they made valves for the Beta Sachs forks.
@Max-dj5qj
@Max-dj5qj Ай бұрын
Lainer Suspension, dal soggio and k-tech do complete Kits... But never tried so far. If i keep my 300rr, i will go for the spv2 mototech Kit for beta Sachs ZF... Around 2500€ in german for fork and shock inclusive , but it is a build in Kit, so not an extra complete Suspension, which you can take easy to the next bike. I testrode it... Absolut incredible... Like the wp cone valve System...which is complete Kit but extreme expensive here Around 6k
@ks_dirtbiker684
@ks_dirtbiker684 Ай бұрын
what lap timer is that?
@SaiTorrKalFas
@SaiTorrKalFas Ай бұрын
Nice video! I am a suspension noob. I do understand what compression and rebound does, but I struggle to translate the feeling I have on the bike into what I have to adjust. That being said: As a non-native english speaker, there is some lingo that I am not sure what it means. "the bike settles better" or "holds up", like describing your feeling of the bike. Would be beneficial to explain what these terms actually mean, for the uninitiated...
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
To settle means the bike is riding deeper in the suspension stroke. Hold up is the ability to absorb hard hits without bottoming. 👍 thanks for watching!
@steve6548
@steve6548 Ай бұрын
commenting to support the YT algo. Thanks!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Thanks you!
@TheJatojr
@TheJatojr Ай бұрын
Curious if you record which settings work for each type of riding and then change to those settings on the days you ride that terrain? I mix between desert singletrack, higher speed and flowy, and mountain singletrack that's closer to the hard enduro spectrum. Was thinking of dialing in for each then just add/remove the proper clicks depending on the destination instead of trying to find a compromise between them.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Definitely noticed the difference between the first day and the third day in this video. You can see where the settings are for higher speed riding, and where the settings are for Hard Enduro . What you’ll see is higher speed equals stiffer and slower on the comp and rebound, slower speed, softer faster.
@goncalosilva15
@goncalosilva15 Ай бұрын
Top! Gear ratio you normaly use on te 300?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
13-49
@1down5up_enduro
@1down5up_enduro Ай бұрын
So if i am being thrown around on the river rock. Specifically the front. Should i slow down the rebound on the front? Since its near the max on the rebound.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
I would say you need to go faster and softer
@1down5up_enduro
@1down5up_enduro Ай бұрын
@IRCTireUSAMoto Yeah, it's not possible. I already got suspension redone for lighter rider and max soft and 2 clicks away from fastest rebound.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Then it requires a revalve
@rehepeks
@rehepeks Ай бұрын
Whats your full gear ride weight and what spring rates you run?
@Впоискахдревностей-э5я
@Впоискахдревностей-э5я Ай бұрын
TY. NICE VIDEO
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Thank You! Appreciate the support! 🙌
@a.r.8850
@a.r.8850 Ай бұрын
Not at all on topic but you said you're filming by yourself, so you are using an auto tracking camera? Man i feel like a cave man 😂. Just these weeks i noticed that consumer drones can auto track riders... what are you using? (your instructions are great! but that is a given)
@weStayModest
@weStayModest Ай бұрын
What is that mounted on your bar pad?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
It’s called mylaptimes
@vashon100
@vashon100 Ай бұрын
Earbud listeners get basted at 2:40
@philipraposo8324
@philipraposo8324 Ай бұрын
i have a question. How do you know if your too soft on compression on the forks? I read people saying that if your too soft the fork will sit too low in its stroke and feel stiff? how to distinguish that feeling vs actually being too stiff from compression setting?
@enduro-parts-aus
@enduro-parts-aus Ай бұрын
Easy Just stiffen compression all the way up and ride Then all the way soft You will soon learn the difference
@philipraposo8324
@philipraposo8324 Ай бұрын
@@enduro-parts-aus so obvious, I should of thought of that. I will try it the next time I'm on my singletrack loop.
@surronzak8154
@surronzak8154 Ай бұрын
15:18 this lading would result in a damn broken belt on my surron 😅
@natefenn
@natefenn Ай бұрын
Does the linkage shock on the husky have the tool less rebound adjustment? The PDS on my xcw does, and I’m not entirely sure which direction to spin for the rebound adjustments. They have directions in the manual but I can’t tell from which orientation. To me I would assume you look from the bottom up, just like you’re screwing the adjuster in or out and it’s moving the rod inside but haven’t heard anyone talk about it yet.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Clockwise is more rebound dampening counterclockwise is less rebound dampening i.e. faster. Always go all the way in and count the clicks back.
@natefenn
@natefenn Ай бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto I know that much, I'm talking about the angle to look at the giant red plastic screw for those rotational directions, would you look at it from the bottom of the screw or the top of the screw?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
I’m sorry man I’m just not sure what you mean. In my head no matter the angle you look at it clockwise is always clockwise
@natefenn
@natefenn Ай бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto then our adjusters are probably different, the PDS style adjuster could be considered in two different orientations because it circumvents the whole shock like the spring does, similar to adjusting the preload/sag it spins around the body of the shock, which is why the orientation throws me off because it isn’t specified in the manual. Maybe that makes more sense?
@SpillSmastin
@SpillSmastin Ай бұрын
I had the same confusion on my xcw. I found a breakdown that explains our red screw better than the manual does. Clockwise on the xcws means turning it to the right looking at it from the bottom up (increase damping). Hope this helps!
@EnduroDivocaci
@EnduroDivocaci Ай бұрын
Good video ❤❤❤
@eureka1512
@eureka1512 Ай бұрын
Hi Rich. Is there a way to contact you? It is important.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Info@richlarsen511.com
@Dissentient01
@Dissentient01 Ай бұрын
Good shit!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Appreciate your continued support brotha!
@Airfrix
@Airfrix Ай бұрын
Is it only for me, or there is absolutely no sound until 2:39?
@TruthFreedom1776
@TruthFreedom1776 Ай бұрын
Can't hear you over the revving of the bike.
@rowynmaddocks6731
@rowynmaddocks6731 Ай бұрын
If you ride enduro you dont know what you running into your only comfort is its 20%bike and80% rider all on uncharted teritory so the pace is a lot slower
@danrayner4699
@danrayner4699 Ай бұрын
Basically they’ve copied what ktech from uk have done with orvs kit
@stevetimleck
@stevetimleck Ай бұрын
Your clicker settings are irrelevant to the public because you changed that valve!!!!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
That’s why the video is called testing protocol. This is the way we test suspension regardless of valving or internal specs.
@mike87364
@mike87364 Ай бұрын
Get to the pointttt!!!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Not my style 😂
@ode4492
@ode4492 Ай бұрын
At 23:15 you mention you like to run the rebound "slightly faster" as to not rebound off the obstacle but to "stick". Do you mean slightly "slower"? Seems a slower rebound would stick better and not spring you off the obstacle. Sorry, just trying to conceptualize all this great information and "faster" seemed confusing if "stick" was the objective.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Great question. When you speed up the rebound that allows the tire to come back to the obstacle and “stick” at you hold traction over the top. On hard hits like logs or rocks the tires will ALWAYS rebound off the obstacle briefly. When you speed up the rebound it allows the tires to return to contact of the obstacle.
@ode4492
@ode4492 Ай бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto Masterclass! thank you!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto Ай бұрын
Thanks man! Do keep in mind you can go too far in this direction, it will start to rebound more off the obstacle. Theres a fine line 👍
@LetRRoll
@LetRRoll Ай бұрын
I’m having a hard time with that idea too, ie faster rebound for better traction in a hard enduro setting? I’ll give it a try, thanks Rich. Btw, what gearing are you running on that bike? Many thanks!
@graelowe
@graelowe Ай бұрын
@@LetRRollI’m pretty sure he’s running 13 48 👌
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