Setting the timing on a Model A | Kyle's Garage - Ep. 6

Kyle adjusts the timing on his Model A and seeks advice for a new engine project.
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[@thomasaschenberg9809]

To get that right on you need to pull the spark advance down one notch. That’s the way Henry timed them back in the day. And you will never have to worry about that kicking back if you go to hand crank it.

[@keithschrack]

That quirky Corvair engine would be a blast to build up, and they must be getting fairly rare these days. At the very least, inspect it for hidden damage.

[@charlesdalton985]

Love the Model A segments! For the Corvair? I’ve never had the opportunity to see one disassembled, that would be fascinating to watch. In any event, thank you!

[@TnTravelers33]

Thank you for not chopping this thing up I love the full fender look!

[@wilro09]

Get the Corvair running and add a turbo or supercharger.

[@kenworcester4387]

I like the idea of both showing how the engine works and making it run.

[@sjp52047]

I loved Corvairs. Rebuild it, start it up. and put it in a Corvair Monza, or even better find a Corvair Monza Spyder. I started college in 1965 and one of my buddies had one. We loved that thing, especially in the snow. Regards, Solomon

[@sunnyormsby8402]

Paul Shinn, before the timing adjustments, advance's the spark 1 click down. haven't tried yet, but intend on it. Thanks for the video, Well Done.😃

[@Scott68B]

I'd like to see the engine run. I'm enjoying your series. Keep up the good work!

[@tktech9234]

Looks like you could keep a spare set of spark-plug wires in your wallet back in the day .

[@VioletGiraffe]

I also don't see these degrading, short of severe corrosion of the conductor itself, or some corrosion in the connection points that can be cleaned off.

[@Friedbrain11]

Rebuild it and hot rod it a bit. I love Corvairs!!!

[@dblackkw]

Mr Klinger, I did not know you were also a comedian. Very funny skit here thanks for the chuckles. Did you save me any lasagna🤣🤣🤣

[@JeraldCarswell-nn5hq]

Tape the water ports when drilling out a broke stud , medal shavings will kill a water pump down the road , also after heating a stud and trying to use an easy out, try a little freon on the stud , heat expands medal and frees its rust weld , now freon will drink the stud and it will walk right out , it works

[@robdoe2420]

Kyle, at 1:55 .... As I remember, the firing sequence of the Model A is 1, 2, 4, 3 and thus you identified the third rotor contact as going to plug 3 rather than 4 and the fourth rotor contact to plug 3. Nice video though, keep'em coming.

[@nealpurdy1202]

Make Corvair engine run please

[@bcaluya27]

A full detailed tear down, would be great!

[@williammoody7570]

I had a '64 Corvair Spyder (turbocharged) right out high school and it was a blast to drive, although the torso lag was tremendously late. Rebuild it to your specs and have a good time with it. Just a note, it will bolt up directly on a VW transaxle. We used to swap out the VW engine with the Corvair engine in our dune buggys.

[@xnorthkillerx]

See it run!

[@matthiashartwig2688]

sehr schönes Video ,danke

[@garymccormack6049]

hopefully you will see if it will run. many years ago i used a corvair engine on a airboat.

[@jsilverssilvers9107]

Make a good street able turbo charged engine out of it

[@user-qs2kg4pi1u]

I would love to see what is in the Corvair engine

[@charlesseastrunk]

No mlm

[@WireWeHere]

You're probably experiencing a weak spark when you use the manual advance. Look at the rotor's location. It should be further on the number one post when the points open. Fun stuff isn't it?

[@asarand]

Rebuild the corvair engine and put it in a dune buggy. A friend of mine had one back in the 70s. Those engines are very powerful for dune buggies, more so than the VW engine versions.

[@woodsmn8047]

This engine was a favorite way to get some life into a VW van...or a beetle if you were into hop up projects..got one of those hanging around...?

[@kevinallen8162]

A build up in the Corvair motor would be very interesting. I have observed a number of air cooled VW rebuilds so it would be very I interesting to see the similarities and differences with the Corvair.

[@JoseRivera-ym3wj]

I've never seen a dismantled Corvair engine. Dismantle it and look for wear and tear. Once it's inspected, look into how to raise performance. With current technology, you could make it turbocharged with great power and reliability. It's how I would do it.

[@davebarron5939]

Excuse the ignorance, as I recall, T's and A's both had on-the-fly timing adjustment on the column AKA spark and throttle. Wont this help emanate timing / pinging / pre detonation problems? My family had several when I was a kid, hard to recall years ago. Also, the corvair motor. You should talk to Tom Cotter, have him find another corvair that needs work and you, Davin, and Tom do a complete restoration OEM or restomod on it, using that engine after complete rebuild. Sweet!

[@lakehunter48p55]

there is an outfit out there that takes corvair engines and makes them to run on ultralight. They also make new blocks and cyl for them.

[@MattLundquistVW]

Take it apart and put a reverse rotation cam in it.

[@artlandry233]

build a rail type dune buggy - make you own frame

[@ncfiredude43]

Great video ! Fix the corvair engine and put it in a Manx style dune buggy !!!

[@alexbuck7500]

Yes show us how a Corvair engine looks like and get it running. Probably will run with just a little prep work.

[@kennethhead6941]

Overhaul it and use it on a small homebuilt airplane. Unusual but fun. Plus, you could get a different group of viewer if you contact EAA aka Experimental Aircraft Association. They can vhook you up with local clubs or individual builders. On top of that you'll probably get a ride or 2 in a small airplane.

[@giancarlopbranco]

All the 3 options, I say. Thanks for share with us your knowledge! 😄👍🏻👍🏻

[@teddysmith457]

I want to see overhaul it and put it in another Corvair

[@b1g_ben-473]

Lol he said it was his "intuition" hahaha

[@pietrimercado7766]

Hey rebuild that flat engine

[@curtisvonepp4335]

If the Model A still don't run right OVER HALL IT .

[@kenhollywood4990]

Please don’t destroy the flat six, just refurbish it and talk us through the process,maybe one day put in a beach buggy 👍 Or better yet sell it to me 🤞

[@gr8fulpn]

Rebuild vid on the Corvair engine please

[@austinwagoncompany]

Corvair engine....go-cart!

[@johnheckler8184]

How about tag teaming with Damon in that brand new shop for a RED LINE REBUILD?

[@kennymartin379]

Make it run

[@arthursmith5409]

Maybe a good candidate for an off-road cart, custom made..

[@boxcarjohnny]

Get the Corvair running and go sports car racing with it.

[@cember01]

Wow, that's like 40 degrees of slop in a distributor. Can that be rebuilt & tightened up? new bearings & gears?

[@tjcanno]

Yes it can. Replace the 2 distributor drive shafts and eliminate half the slop. Replace the distributor drive gear (inside the valve chamber on the side, under the exhaust manifold) and eliminate the rest. No need to drive a Model A with this much slop in the rotor.

[@louiecevasco7948]

What kind of honda bike is that in the background?

[@Flatlanders_Garage]

That is a 1972 SL125 that has some mild custom work done.

[@Ellenslife851]

Try getting it running And do a restoration on the engine clean up all the parts And turn it into a showpiece

[@user-zw5og4cw3t]

Is it okay if it lights up at four points?

[@gpracer270]

I would imagine someone esle has already suggested this , but just incase........ Nu-Rex timing tool.

[@mikemiles3068]

I would love to see you put the engine in a VW.

[@flyonbyya]

Does than pin on the front of the block give you TDC compression? If not, how do u know you’re not at TDC exhaust?

[@ModelARickLasCruces]

Yes, TDC compression is correct.

[@jimervin1637]

I just wish you would have road tested that Model A to make sure that it's timed right. I think you're right about giving it a little more advance than the book says., I believe they want over 50 bucks for that Les Andrews book at the local old car parts place. So that'll have to wait until we see automotive swap meets again. As for the Corvair engine, I'd get it running if possible and sell it to help finance the Model A rebuild.

[@p.d.nickthielen6600]

I wonder if you could find a water cooled engine and take the apart side by side and show how they are different

[@catalinionut1868]

Make it run and maybe talk about it while doing it, sort of a time lapse with comments.

[@michaelanthony3816]

Take the corvair engine apart to diagnose any possible problems. Do not break the case. This engine is also simple. My engine is a 110 hp in a greenbrier van dlx. 1965 Good luck

[@Thorntonclan93]

You should get it running and find something unique to put it in. Something unconventional.

[@ricardopathe3925]

good night, my name is Ricardo, I have a ford A year 29 I live in Campinas S.P Brazil I'm in doubt, can you help me? I need to check the point of the car's engine, remove the screw from the command cover and place the end of the screw in the hole in the command gear, which is the top dead center (I only know so far, and the rest) you can help me ?

[@kennymartin379]

What type of oil goes in that model A 30 waight

[@ModelARickLasCruces]

10-30 oil works great. If the engine is fresh, use detergent oil. If the engine has a lot of miles on it, non-detergent.

[@petterbalfour356]

Dude that donk has a flat low profile, put it in a porches, build own superstructure with tunes or square tunes that fit within each other then put a gold colour bolt through the tubes. Don't weld. U can heat tubes a little to help bend then. Use laser system rented to perfectly square your superstructure. U can buy a cheap thrashed out factory race porches for 2k usd. Run some korea made Hancock's. 5 bolt, all just cheap stuff off counter, buy Ford parts where possible, only run Ford lifters and engine parts.

[@nethanelmasters5170]

Get the engine running and put it in a dune buggy.

[@mrhamburger6936]

There's a guy at KZbin that it has a tool for correctly setting the timing up on a Model A he even shows how to use it

[@ModelARickLasCruces]

Check out Paul Shinn's Model A videos on KZbin. He's a master.

[@haydnleonhardt4896]

Slam it in the dune buggy project

[@fasttrack2003]

Put the Corvair engine in a Beetle

[@chevymarineretired]

Take it apart and take a VW engine apart at the same time to compare one to the other.

[@edwardarruda7215]

I guess there's no radio

[@chris537a]

throw the engine in my 73 vw squareback.

It's not rocket science, it's a Model A.

[@citrususer2602]

С удовольствием смотрю Ваши программы,жаль не знаю английский

[@richardwernig8938]

I've always had a dream of building a giant Cushman type scooter powered by a 90 HP Corvair engine.

[@Flatlanders_Garage]

Now that's an idea!

[@user-ul1of5gc8x]

HOW TO REMOVE THE ENGINE FROM THE CAR. ALSO HOW TO FIX A TRANSMISSION THE IS LEAKING AFTER SETTING SEVERAL HOURS.

[@tjcanno]

Kyle, you do not have that engine timed correctly. You are reading the correct book but following the procedure incorrectly. This is a very common error. The TRAILING edge of the rotor needs to be exactly lined up with the pin for #1 plug. You have the LEADING edge there. Remember, you said yourself, the rotor is turning CCW. As you advance the spark lever, the spark will move up from the trailing edge toward the leading edge, the more you advance it. Do it again this way and it will run smoothly.

[@Openairgarage]

Make the Corvair engine run and install it in a Dune Buggy project.

[@edwardsilva895]

I vote for a tube chassis dune buggy!

[@Flatlanders_Garage]

Can you read minds? I'm pretty sure you are reading mine....

[@Openairgarage]

@@Flatlanders_Garage Steve McQueen ,Thomas Crown Affair style Meyers Manx

[@c.thompson6638]

Why didn't Ford insulate the spark plug wires? They were common with other manufacturers by the time this Model A was built.

[@ModelARickLasCruces]

Inexpensive :)

[@patrickquirk-qz8ri]

Doesn't need insulated wires.

[@sachideshmane5088]

You should replace that distributor with a modern mechanical and vacuum advance. Also, I'd love to see a series of super detailed rebuild videos on the corvair engine. Maybe put it in a VW.

[@TimsWorkshopTJY]

I think if I remember corvair motors were rotory and they had a bunch of issues. I think block leaks was one. I suggest a total tear down to see what they look like and seal up like VWs are by shops now days.

[@larrykittell726]

The Corvair engine was an air cooled "boxer" 6 cylinder just like the 911 Porsche. It had hydraulic lifters and rockers like a Chevy Small Block. The first "Turbo Mufflers" come from turbocharged Corvairs.

[@TimsWorkshopTJY]

Thanks, now you have me interested to do some research on these. I would actually like to pick up a old corvair. It would make great videos

[@Sodabowski]

C’mon, dynamite is overrated. Would love to see that lady running!

[@petterbalfour356]

I crease fuel flow to cool donk, and add an oil cooler, only run expensive 100% mineral. Gold in colour.

[@evilps2140]

Мало что понял но круто! 👍

[@guylarawayjr571]

Off road buggy.

[@williammoody7570]

It said "torso" and I typed "turbo"

[@dogbitefred6631]

The Corvair engine would make an excellent boat anchor.

[@Flatlanders_Garage]

Might be hard to pull back into the boat... but then again that might be okay.

[@FYMASMD]

Blow it up with dynamite. Just kidding. Look into the advantages or disadvantages of installing a turbocharger. Those engines are notoriously underpowered. Thanks.

[@willpipho4558]

I second the turbo idea!

[@markhenry5294]

I third.

[@user-bh1fz7gx7v]

I am in second place in watching 👏😊

[@thunderduckie01]

NEVER advance and engine by turning the fan, especially on an A. Also, get a distributor wrench from Mac's.....It's $15 and will make the job much easier. PS You're car is still not timed correctly. An A should idle smoothly with less than a quarter of advance. I noticed yours was all the way advanced and when you to the advance out of it it died.

[@thestationaryengineer2316]

Sorry, but you set the timing incorrectly and can lead to the crank handle kicking back if you have to hand start it. Also, you are giving the car too much advanced when you pull the handle all the way down.

[@keithhatch56]

Very complicated instructions

[@v860rich]

Scrap it!!!!!!!!

[@Flatlanders_Garage]

But a flathead spins the wrong way to mate up to the Corvair transmission....

[@JetScreamer24]

Put the corvair engine in a corvette!

[@Flatlanders_Garage]

Hmmm..... I like this idea!

[@justaguy8347]

Just take it apart. And please don't tell us every detail!