Setting the Timing on my Porsche 924 - Part 28

[@Witty924]

Hi all, I just wanted to confirm that the right number marking is 10 degrees BTDC. I also just ran a double check across front pulleys and under the car bell housing viewing panel which confirmed the white mark painted on my flywheel is the correct timing mark to use. So I have done another very very small adjustment today which I posted on my instagram page as it's only a 1 minute video to verify. Thanks Marty for the eagle eye on the fly wheel marking of 10 degrees too as you can see it when fully zoomed in. Happy to report car is running great and idling perfectly. 👍

[@pauldavies8638]

Hi witty just wanted to let you know I got my 924 started I had to replace the k jet system it was knackered it's running smooth and clean now the petrol had gone off too just a few minor things to do now hopefully going for an mot next week I'm so chuffed thanks for your help and vids they are great.

[@Witty924]

@@pauldavies8638 thats awesome news buddy. So have you got lots to do to get it back on the road?

[@pauldavies8638]

@@Witty924 got to fit wiper relay the rear wiper leaked the motor filled with water and blew the relay I have deleted the wiper it was ugly and strange anyway and badly corroded. Got to fit washer relay and do the parking brake adjustment just waiting for the relays to arrive, happy days though

[@Witty924]

@@pauldavies8638 almost there, then you can letbthe 924 loose on the roads again 👍. I like the idea of the wiper delete, where did you get the plug delete from?

[@pauldavies8638]

@@Witty924 I just googled rear wiper delete, it was under a tenner just put a tiny smear of gasket sealent on it looks OK no blind spot now, wiper relay should come today made great progress last week hopefully mot this week

[@marty9248]

You were pointing to the valve timings in the Haynes Manual. For the ignition timing the user manual (1981) states 10 degr. BTDC @ 950 +- 50 RPM without the vacuum hose connected on the distributor. Your flywheel marking was showing -10 not 6 (just zoom in). Adjust idle before measurements. After turning your distributor connect the vacuumhose. Idle rpm will then increase slightly. Great vids by the way. Thank you for sharing.

[@Witty924]

Good shout on this one Marty. You are right on the valve clearance part and the 6 degrees. Going to do a double check via the under side of the bell housing cover tomorrow. I know everything is aligned but no harm in double checking 👍

[@marty9248]

Markings may have been added by the previous owner in case an incorrectly mounted flywheel. You can check TDC of first cilinder by removing the oil filler cap. You can see the cam lobes. Check campulley marking and crankpulley markings versus flywheel markings and position of rotor in the distributor.

[@Witty924]

All good points Marty. I did all of the alignments when I did the timing belt change. This was covering the final tweaks 👍

[@andreaskrah4176]

I like your content about this underrated Porsche model. I hope one time it will get his place in the Porsche hall of fame besides all this 911 icons.

[@Witty924]

Thanks for the comment Andreas, it's getting there foer sure, lots of great enthusiasts out there bringing many 924s back to life which is great to see. They deserve their spot light now 👍

[@michaelbiggins7533]

Nice to see! I am working on mine -same colour -same side decals - but different trim -

[@Witty924]

Thanks doe the comment Michael and fantastic to hear there is another Copenhagen blue 924 out there 👍 hope the all is going well with it 🚙💨

[@michaelbiggins7533]

@@Witty924 Thanks Witty bought for my wife in 1991- she did not drive the last 15 years and has since passed so I am getting it ready for sale! fixing rodent chewed wires now! Love to send you a pic if i had your email - I have family in UK and was born there

[@provokingadiscussion5678]

HI Witty, brilliant as always...thank you once again. May i ask what the name of the manual you were working from? Cheers mate, Jamie

[@Witty924]

Thanks for the comment and support Jamie 👍. Its the Haynes manual for the 924 2.0l. Great manual to help you through things. 🚙💨😎

[@dennismolina2339]

Great video!

[@Witty924]

Many thanks Dennis for the comment and support 👍

[@dennismolina2339]

​@@Witty924 I love your videos they are very informative and helpful. I'm wondering if you can help me with mine. I recently remove the distributor (not the orange cap) and when i put it back the car won't start... And for some weird reason mine doesnt seem to have a condenser and there is an empty electrical terminal on the distributor? Do i have to adjust the timing everytime i remove the distributor? Cheers, Dennis! Also btw i subscribed :D

[@Witty924]

@@dennismolina2339 hi Dennis, thanks for subscribing and the support. So when you removed the distributor it should slide straight out, however the timing is adjusted by turning the distributor clockwise or anti clockwise, so you may need to adjust the timing to get it started correctly. Do you have a timing light?

[@dennismolina2339]

@@Witty924 I got one the other day.

[@Witty924]

@@dennismolina2339 perfect , let me know how you get on. 👍

[@rabbivonbacherach]

Not linked to the work in video: what color code is that. Beatiful car!

[@Witty924]

Thanks for the comment Rabbi. The car is finished in the orginal Copenhagen Blue that it left the factory in 1984. I will double check the colour code for you and drop a message back 👍

[@pauldavies8638]

Hi witty does a 1982 porsche 924 2.0 use points in the distributor?

[@Witty924]

Hi Paul. Depends on the year of your 924. The earlier years did but later years moved to a electronic. You can upgrade to electronic if you choose too, some good information on the steps to take on various 924 forums. 👍

[@sideleaner]

Hi, great video. I got my eye on your gear shifter knob, is that something aftermarket ? Mine's leather is all crumbeled....

[@Witty924]

Hi sideleaner thanks for the comment 👍this is the style that I ordered which I found in black, you might need to search around but i found this colour to.help you start www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Car-Gear-Shift-Knob-White-Leather-Shifter-Lever-Stick-Cover-Black-Auto-/131621306858?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[@sideleaner]

@@Witty924 Hi thanks for your reply. But aren't all the universal knobs "screw on" with a round hole while our 924 has the rectangular hole which fits over the rubbers ? Or did you change the gearstick as well ?

[@Witty924]

@@sideleaner I didnt change the gear stick. These gear knobs have 3 Allen key screws that allow you to tighten to the standard gear stick bar. Not sure how the other universal ones work. 🤞

[@pauldavies8638]

Hi witty still having problems starting, I have air, petrol and spark the spark seems weak it was running rough it's had a new rotor arm, new plugs new leads new dizzy cap new injectors and injector leads and injector seals and seats replacement alternator and a new battery the timing is fine I am leaning towards a replacement ignition control module is it housed in that box behind the lights on the left hand front wheel arch or do I need the whole box I don't know if you can just change the component would this cause a weak spark and a situation where it won't start any thoughts would be great as I'm at the end of my tether thanks so much witty 😂😂😂

[@Witty924]

Hey Paul, good to hear from you. I'm sure you mentioned you also did a compression test to ensure all is good with the internals? the ignition unit behind the light on the wheel arch could be the culprit. Do you know anyone close with a working 924 that you could do a quick unit swap? Let me know, 🤞

[@pauldavies8638]

@@Witty924 hi witty, thanks for writing back don't know anyone with a unit I can borrow 🙁 spark is weak orange/red not blue/white as it should be, it's had new plugs, ht leads, rotor arm dizzy cap, coil, replaced alternator, the sensor in the dizzy might be faulty or it's the ignition control unit I think it might be the ignition control unit as I might of blown it with a bad earth the symptoms are a weak spark, rough idling, a bit of back fire, poor starting and a slight smell of petrol in the exhaust pipe, I'm cleaning up my earth's but when I type into Google it comes up as a ignition control unit as a black plug in unit or the entire silver box that is mounted behind the headlight on the wheel arch I don't know which it is should I get the entire silver box or do I get the black plug in unit that might go in the silver box??? I am so unsure all the symptoms point to the fact I think I have blown the ignition control unit I'm getting air, petrol but a weak spark, compression is OK it was running not long ago oil pressure is 7 bar???? I just don't know what the ignition control unit looks like either the silver box or the. Black plastic unit sorry to hassle you Witty it's wrecking my head help pleaseeeeeee.

[@Witty924]

@@pauldavies8638 not to worry always happy to help a fellow 924 friend. So the black unit you see for sale now are upgrade replacements I believe. I think cleaning the earth's is a good start, they can suffer from bad connections. Do you have the Haynes manual too?

[@Witty924]

@@pauldavies8638 I also forgot to say, double check your cold start injector is not leaking and that it shuts off correctly after starting, if it leaks that could cause additional fuel intake and smell. Also, just double-check you have no air leaks in any of the vacuum lines, the smallest of leaks will affect the running so worth another look. Let me know how you get on. 🤞

[@pauldavies8638]

@@Witty924 hi witty I have a Haynes manual I am going around my earth's with a dremmil with a wire brush on it looking at the silver box the connections seem different than the black replacement unit which also seems tiny in comparison from what I've read the silver box tells the coil to power up which makes me think the Icu is responsible for the weak spark there doesn't appear to be any leaking at the cold start injector it just seems to me that the spark at the plugs isn't hot enough to to ignite the petrol probably going to take a chance on a replacement silver ignition control unit box. Thanks for your thoughts Paul.

[@mervuss]

Where can i purchase that book?

[@Witty924]

@@mervuss hi, I have one for sale, are you I the UK, if so DM me and we can sort. 👍

[@bigdan-meca]

Pourquoi avait vous débranché la durite de dépression pour l avance à l allumage lorsque vous faite le réglage de l avance à l allumage?? Merci pour toutes vos vidéo car moi aussi je suis en rénovation d une Porsche 924

[@Witty924]

Salut Dan, Merci pour le commentaire. Vous devez retirer le tuyau d'aspiration du distributeur lorsque vous réglez le moment. Une fois que vous avez réglé le moment, vous pouvez reconnecter le tuyau d'aspiration. Cela fera avancer le chronométrage à mesure que vous accélérez à travers le régime. C'est formidable de vous entendre redonner vie à un 924. Bonne chance avec le projet et dites-moi comment vous vous en sortez. ;)

[@bigdan-meca]

@@Witty924 merci beaucoup pour votre réponse. Oui effectivement je redonne vie à une belle 924 blanche tarte de 1981. Elle n avait pas démarrer depuis plus de 10 ans j ai réussi à la redémarrer mais depuis 1 ans j ai décidé de refaire complètement je suis entrain de tous démonter et restaurer. En regardant vos vidéo cela ma donné aussi envie de faire des vidéo (tuto) sur cette Porsche 924 en espérant à mon tour aussi aidé des personne à restaurer leur voiture. Normalement mes première vidéo seront mise en ligne en juillet. Hâte à votre prochaine vidéo sur cette magnifique 924

[@bigdan-meca]

@@Witty924Thank you very much for your answer. Yes indeed I am giving life to a beautiful 924 white tart from 1981. It had not started for more than 10 years I managed to restart it but for 1 year I have decided to completely redo I am in the process of disassembling and restoring them all. Watching your videos also made me want to make video (tutorial) on this Porsche 924, hoping in my turn to also help people restore their car. Normally my first video will be uploaded in July. Looking forward to your next video on this gorgeous 924

[@Witty924]

@@bigdan-meca that's great to hear Dan. I will definitely follow your progress . Good luck and I look forward to your video in July 👍

[@pauldavies8638]

Hi witty does the ignition run a condenser on the distributor or coil I can't seem to find one???

[@Witty924]

Hey Paul, hope all is good. Its sounds like you have electronic ignition rather than the older points and condenser 👍🤞

[@pauldavies8638]

@@Witty924 hi witty yes I have electronic ignition I was unsure If it was running a condenser? Just done my timing without a strobe crazy but true, took it to tdc lined the marks up on the crank pulley and cam pulley made sure they were in line with a bit of old credit card took the dizzy cap off and there is a very faint timing mark on the edge of the dizzy housing that you line up with the centre dot on the rotor arm timing done no expense on a strobe 😊😊😊 I couldn't find a garage that knew what they were doing or had a strobe so I thought sod it I will do it myself, chuffed to bits.

[@Witty924]

@@pauldavies8638 Hi Paul, sounds like a good result, how is the car running and driving? Have you taken it up into the 5-6K rpm range? 👍

[@moathaljolani8575]

Hi friend how i can change fuel distributor for Porsche 924 model 1984 please

[@Witty924]

Hi Moath, is your fuel distributor not working? Have you tested it?

[@moathaljolani8575]

@@Witty924 yes it is not working and i buy one and i need to know how can i change it

[@Witty924]

@@moathaljolani8575 hi Moath. So there are some good online instructions to help remove. If not then just take it step be step and remove the fuel lines from the unit and then the screws that hold it to airflow meter unit. Good luck 👍

[@moathaljolani8575]

@@Witty924 thank you friend, could i have link for that please Much appreciated

[@Witty924]

@@moathaljolani8575 try this one. Everything you need to help with the K jet unit and what its connected to and relies on to work well. 👍 www.type17.ch/downloads/Injection/Bosch%20-%20K-Jet%20-%20Workshop%20Manual.pdf

[@dg115]

Good news my 924 is finally back on the road after 15 years of being parked up.

[@Witty924]

That's awesome to hear DG. Have you been blasting about 🚙💨

[@dg115]

@@Witty924 I wouldn't say blasting it because it's not been driven in 15 years. So Ive been on a gingerly drive to see how it behaves. Pleased to say it did ok, although the tracking needs doing. Did the timing a while back using the strobe lighting kit and had it tuned with a co2 meter.

[@pauldavies8638]

That's great news one more 924 lives again. 👍

[@TheTvdS]

You better watch the marks on the pulley on front side of the engine, it’s more clear.

[@Witty924]

Hi Huub, thanks for the comment. I ran the strobe light at the camshaft pulley and bottom pulley both look well aligned. A final run at the flywheel has confirmed all is looking good 👍

[@mourad_micropro]

Magnifique

[@Witty924]

Thanks Mourad 👍