Setting up a Baldor Buffer for Deburring and Finishing

[@Kicker700]

Thank you for the overlay of the part number. I like when youtubers do this.

[@spokehedz]

I imagine you, and the people restoring things in the future, feel about the same.

[@NexusTrimean]

The RPM on that syncs up perfectly with the camera, pretty amazing, couldn't even tell it was spinning from the threads when you first turned it on.

[@galbysvideos9867]

It seems these channels are now trolled by anyone who thinks there are a safety officers and that entitles them to make judgement I’d love to see them working in their own shops (if they even have them) ignoring their own advice. Good video by the way

[@Clough42]

Yeah, this is true. Negative engagement is engagement. Every KZbinr eventually picks up a few people who follow them around to click the thumbs-down button on every new video. They're so quick, I have to assume they are subscribed and have notifications turned on. And then they have to click on the video to dislike it, so...

[@rebel4466]

I don't know how I ended up here. Was watching totally different content. I don't know a whole lot about the topic but I was surprised about the amount of good safety instructions. If that's what you do all the time, it's absolutely enough for anyone.

[@34k5]

Because of the way these spin and the nuts self tighten I have kept mine just finger tight for years now and never had any issues - nice setup! I have the same thing but I tend to take off the pads i`m not using and store them in zip locks so I have various options that aren't cross contaminating.

[@Clough42]

Not a bad idea. For light use, swapping wheels and pads would save space in a small shop.

[@34k5]

@@Clough42 And I have a click spring small shop. lol

[@tracygilmore7983]

@@Clough42 Also cutting out sheet metal washers of larger dia. than spacers and using that extra dia. to run ~3 little bolts through all pads and 2 washers makes swapping easier and faster, and increasing the dia. out towards the edge can regulate stiffness if you find "not quite right" at a yard sale,lol.

[@Cenedd]

@@Clough42 If the nut loosening is an issue - or even just the (sensible) fear of it - a jam nut ought to stop that as well as let you control how much 'squish' to apply.

[@joeldriver381]

Safety and part grab is all about the vector Victor!

[@jamescole3152]

I like the way you show everything for beginners like me.

[@nukebert1]

I have the same Baldor motor and have been using it for many years but I still found your video very informative. I clicked on the link and they are no longer available from Amazon. I did notice in the description that it was to be used with cloth wheels only, which is the only way that I have used mine. I do agree with the use of scotch-brite and the abrasive pads and am considering their use for my new endeavor of knife making. Good video. Thank you.

[@matthewhelton1725]

Radial runout will not completely "self-cure" on a semi-rigid scotchbrite wheels. If you want it to run true, use a sanding block with fine paper affixed to it. For deburring, this rig is perfect. For polishing, this rig is too aggressive to preserve edges, corners, lettering, holes, etc. Dust control with these wheels is a thing. Trying to deburr a hole or slot through the part with a scotchbrite wheel will tend to "pull" the edges of the holes... this will work, but it is unsightly if you are going to anodize later. If you are polishing across holes and want a smooth non-undulating surface, a wheel is probably not the way to go.

[@lightweightiseverything5068]

Nice video! This is the exact setup I have wanted to put together. Fun to watch you do it and appreciate the safety tips.

[@brandontscheschlog]

I used the same gray Scotch-Brite to debur gun parts and if you apply light pressure and run it across the wheel very fast with light pressure you can maintain the edge without rounding it. I would debur hundreds of parts today so it is something you have to learn to do

[@fasteddie4107]

I got the same scotch brite wheels per Joe Pi’s suggestion. I ended up using 7 of them on one end of my Baldor. They do wear down pretty quick, but my machine is 3-phase (330B at 2x the RPMs); love the results. Good safety tips. Thanks for sharing this!

[@Clough42]

The wheels are great. Once you use them, it's hard to be without them.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Thanks for a very instructive, informative and inspiring video. Time 05:40 If force doesn't work, use more force, we say over here. Time 07:22 You likely have some 60 000 eyes checking You so Youu better "behave well".... Time 14:00 "Everybody" ought to know that but.... Very good pointing it out! Summing it up, a good buy. Inspired by Your video I just unboxed a bench grinder I bought, on sale, ca 1 year ago. Reading the manual, plugging it in and starting it, standing loose on the floor, a light humming was heard, and it didn't want to run away! Nice buy I think. Cheers!

[@dominicxiong4901]

Great demonstration. Well narrated. 👍

[@prototype3a]

The wheel is correctly addressed with "sir".

[@netpackrat]

I have had one of the smaller versions of the Baldor buffer for over 20 years, and for most of that time it has had one of the scotchbrite deburring wheels installed. Have deburred a lot of aircraft sheet metal parts with it, but I usually run the edge in line with the wheel. It does wear a groove in the wheel, but you can get both corners in one pass, AND remove any tool marks from the edge which might cause stress risers in service.

[@Clough42]

Oh, interesting. I imagine the stress risers are a much bigger deal in aircraft parts.

[@jescheffler]

I had never seen/thought about using pads in a grinder like that. I have been looking for a buffing solution for a grinder. Thanks for the idea!

[@als1023]

Me too. I've used them on 4 and 5" grinders for years, never knew they were made for stand grinders, gonna get me some, my boys will love them ! I have an old dental buffing machine, they will be perfect for that. We also converted an old washing machine motor to a stand buffer, using soft metal wheels to clean auto parts and machined parts. Thanks James !

[@hypnolobster]

This exact setup is my preference for deburring parts from general welding and fabrication. My finish process is hand work with an angle grinder to do any significant rounding and then some quality time deburring edges from the more aggressive grinding. Nicely rounds any sharp corners and pulls off any little burrs that might compromise paint and cause chips. It's also way easier on the hands/wrists/elbows to handle parts vs handling an angle grinder and die grinder for batch-part finishing.

[@jamescole3152]

Good point on where to hold the piece so not to get kick back. I was watching the way a knife maker on tv was using a belt sander and noticed he was doing it the dangerous way. He cut himself very badly. Not sure if the knife had to be sharpened the way he was doing it. He was pointing the sharp part of the blade upward, the wheel was spinning downward. ......

[@incubatork]

Just from the short demo looks like you are going to need some sort of extraction, there looked to be a lot of fine dust on the white board, not to mention the invisable airborn dust(health hazard) till it settles on everything. Apart from that a nice addition to the shop.

[@DAKOTANSHELBY]

I know I'm a year late, but wanted to share that I have the identical Baldor motor and it sits on a heavy duty cast iron original Baldor stand. It currently has a brass wire wheel on one end and a diamond abrasive wheel on the other end that I use for grinding my tungsten tip. I also have many different buffing wheel cloths for polish work.

[@morganallen2272]

Phew, what timing, I'm building out my woodshop that has plenty of space looking for new tools. Send 'em over!

[@Orgakoyd]

I have a 3000 RPM (50 Hz) Chinese buffer motor, 1/2 HP and 1/2” shaft diameter, so not nearly as hefty as this one but it seems to run smooth. Haven’t actually used it yet, but got a good deal on it locally so couldn’t pass it up for wire wheel use mostly. I cringe when I see wire wheels on a normal bench grinder with guards and tool rests etc! Even with those removed, regular bench grinders are purposely deigned to keep the wheels close to the bearings, whereas you want the extra extension on buffer motors for polishing/wire wheel use.

[@jtkilroy]

"Save me some time in the comments section" Put that pearl of wisdom on a coffee mug sir!

[@KUGW]

I picked up a Baldor grinder on Craigslist for $70 it purrs like a kitten, my other cheap grinder will walk across the garage and back. Now I know why people buy very expensive stuff like this, they are made for life...

[@minigmac1]

Dig your clean shop!

[@Temuba]

These 8" deburring discs are also know as Buff & Blend disks. The maroon you are using comes in Medium, Fine & Very Fine. I also had an issue finding this exact 3/4in shaft diameter. One site AbrasiveStore.com had them for under $4 per disk. I would buy them ten at a time, however visiting the site, they have change the minimum order to 100 for this disk ($3.86/ea). The 1/2 inch version has no minimum. These are my go to disks for cleanup and finish. However will need to search else where for another supplier. Next time search for buff and blend disks.

[@Clough42]

Cool. Half the battle is knowing the right search terms.

[@brandontscheschlog]

The nice thing about those gray Scotch-Brite wheels is you can dress your own contours into them very easily with a plastic stone

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good tool

[@BrandonBurns1985]

Omg lmao. ‘I’m gonna take them off anyway to save time in the comment section” James I just bursted out laughing at work lol. Thanks for making Monday morning better 🇺🇸

[@als1023]

same !

[@stevenclark1243]

Me too. Very dry.

[@wallaceknifeworkshomestead]

Nice buffer!

[@robc8468]

Nice grinder, seems like 3/4 HP is a bit of overkill for 6 inch diameter scotchbrite set up.

[@medienmond]

Did i saw an ABB Logo on top of the manuals of this Buffer?

[@Clough42]

Yes. According to Wikipedia: "In 2011, Baldor was acquired by ABB Ltd of Switzerland in an all-cash deal of US$4.2 billion ($1.1 billion debt included). The company continued to operate as Baldor Electric Company A Member of the ABB Group."

[@chrisarmstrong8198]

Maybe a light coat of spray-on contact cement could be used to glue the Scotchbrite pads together so that they don't splay out during use?

[@somebodyelse6673]

Can only glue them near the center, otherwise the glue gets melted to your part, and that gets ugly fast.

[@chrisarmstrong8198]

@@kfoltman I've used contact cement to glue air filter (low density) foam together. It seems to work fine. The foam tears before the glue lets go. However, with the light coat needed (to avoid the "melting glue" problem mentioned by somebody else) it could be a problem. There's only one way to find out - try it.

[@chidofu4922]

Part number for the reducer bushings please. I have looked for them on MSC with no luck.

[@chloedogable]

Where did you get the reducing bushing ??

[@matsbengtsson3756]

James. I need some quick help with scaling correctly for my lathe feed shaft with your new firmware. Motor is set to 1600 step per rev. My leadscrew is 8 TPI and that is all clear. I have that configured correctly to 0.125” per revolution. My feed-shaft travel rate is 0.0156” per revolution, so how do I figure out the scaling? If James or someone else can help it would be appreciated. Thanks.

[@onehot57]

James you can always build a larger shop!

[@mythcrab6047]

It's crazy how nonchalant some people are with these powerful tools. Knifemakers know these are one of the most dangerous shop tools.

[@netpackrat]

Indeed. I have heard that knife makers have been killed when the buffer grabbed a blade they were polishing and threw it back at them. Best to either hand polish, or fixture the blade and bring a different polishing tool to it. For deburring work like shown in the video, the buffers are fairly safe though.

[@mythcrab6047]

@@netpackrat Yes. I very much appreciate this channel and learned valuable tips about kickback that I’ll remember.

[@VladekR]

U talking a lot (like my wife) and u right (like my wife)👍👍👍👍

[@somebodyelse6673]

Did you do any measuring of how much material is removed when surfacing? If you use those to take out toolmarks on a flat surface, curious how much it actually changes dimensions.

[@firearmsstudent]

"Who, knows I might find another I can't live without." Man, tell me about it. It's a wonderful disease.

[@rickmellor]

I almost got that after Adam got his. I cheaped out and got the HFT version instead.

[@Clough42]

How is it? Good buy? To be avoided?

[@rickmellor]

@@Clough42 so far so good. Runs smooth and true but a bit down on power. I run my scotchbrite wheel on a Craftsman 6" variable speed and it has always done fine. I also have an 8" central machinery grinder from HFT and it has been amazing for the price... thats what got me to try the buffer from HFT figuring the Baldor would still be around if it didn't work out. Standard disclaimer: homegamer speaking

[@mrrrrr1rob590]

Now you just need one set up for polishing! ;-)

[@suivzmoi]

why does scotchbrite wheel have a designated direction?

[@Temuba]

Btw, it'll be more advantageous and efficient if you mounted the buffer on a pedestal style base. This way you can easily work on longer parts. Plus if it kicks outs downward, it'll shoot towards the floor and not the a bench and possibly bounce back towards you. Safety Police here, this is your first warning :)

[@Clough42]

Not a bad point. The potential to get hit by a bounce is the sort of thing that might only become obvious in retrospect. :)

[@Temuba]

@@Clough42 Ask me how I know.

[@Sak-zo1ui]

I just had a headlight trim ring suck into the wheel and hit me. Not a fun time. Very dangerous but very effective machines.

[@joels4208]

Just curious.... where you are removing very small amounts of material, do you think the Baldor 1/3HP version of this buffer would work well for this application? I think it is only available at 3600 rpm. Do you think this would be an issue?

[@robc8468]

I bet it would 3/4 hp seems like overkill and i did not hear his motor bog at all. I just ordered the 1/3HP Baldor 111 for $300 . I would not be worried much about burning up a Baldor motor with a 6 inch scotchbrite wheel. !/3 HP would seem adequate unless you were running heavy constant production work non stop all day long.

[@mikeparfitt8897]

The scotchbrite pads were seperating and the part was going inbetween under light to moderate pressure. Would wider metal end-collars be advisible on new pads ?

[@Clough42]

Maybe. I think they'll fray and that will be less of an issue. We'll see.

[@osgeld]

im thinking even some wider cardstock washers would help the hard corners from getting snagged

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Hi James, Are you going to permanently locate it or just put it on the bench when needed? Take care Paul,,

[@Clough42]

It'll need to be permanently available. Still sorting it out.

[@yassirc3681]

That is a beautiful buffer-grinder, but awfully expensive. All I can afford is harbor-freight :( Nice new tool though!

[@brucemansfield2501]

You used the adjustable wrench backwards. The adjustable jaw should be on the side in the direction your pushing.

[@Clough42]

I forgot it was a left-hand thread. Though I'm flattered that you think I'm strong enough to break the wrench just by holding the other end of the shaft with my hand.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

I wouldn't mind having one of those but the price is too much.

[@Jorde-u4u]

Guy says is not perfect but,...😂😂😂😂 He is a troublemaker, I have bought Baldors forever for home and shop, i have never ever like one.

[@19jaredbarsuglia81]

With the stacked scotch brite, consider running your narrower parts slightly angled across the wheels. The part won’t “fall in” as easy. Nice video

[@carlthor91]

You don't have Iron Sickness as bad as Keith Rucker or Brian Block, so don't sweat it.👍😎😎Best wishes

[@Clough42]

I don't have the space. :)

[@yota4004]

that's a beautiful machine but major overkill for deburring. I have a 4.4 amp ,1/3 hp baldor buffer that is perfect for deburring but does not have enough torque for polishing or aggressive wire wheeling. your machine would be perfect for those tasks.

[@raycopper439]

What’s a Bufer? 😊

[@Clough42]

I've been looking at the title and all of the text, looking for where I misspelled it. It's in the thumbnail! Ha! I can fix that. Edit: Fixed! I know...kind of ruins the fun.

[@raycopper439]

@@Clough42 With your standards, I knew it would be fixed 👍🏻

[@jerrysgaragethemoneypit2028]

Actually should stand off to any to spinning wheel.

[@theessexhunter1305]

Saw the nut, said yep here comes the USA spanner lol

[@Clough42]

Mine also works with metric nuts.

[@Keith_Ward]

And today on FB ... "Swedish nut lathe"!

[@als1023]

@@Clough42 Both left and right hand models as well, I noticed. Sheesh, some guys have all the tools ,,,

[@mabmachine]

I have the same Baldor buffer. Honestly one of my favorite machines, I really love having it. Those Scotch deburring wheels are awesome.

[@williamsternberg8867]

Why 1800 RPM versus 3600 RPM?

[@Clough42]

I thought it would be more controllable for hand buffing and deburring. It doesn't cut as fast, and it doesn't heat the part up as rapidly.

[@madisonrollings1845]

Buffing pads and wheels also aren't rated for the higher RPM.

[@frigzy3748]

The dislikes are probably from Harbor Freight

[@christophertstone]

Could also be people who just generally don't like this type of content. YT doesn't differentiate between "it's a bad video" and "I don't want to see this topic"

[@Clough42]

It might be political. I did make a negative comment about the other side. (Woodworking)

[@kevinbiondo9576]

I noticed the flag in the background and ilooked up the meaning, where you a firefighter?

[@Clough42]

Sorry... shawstrength.com/product/strength-banner/

[@ocAToccd]

Didn't you miss a countersink? 😉

[@Clough42]

Yup.

[@joell439]

👍😎👍

[@gianlucamarciano3695]

I am the one thousandth like

[@adamsblanchard836]

I guess ima have to show y'all how to make scotch brite wheels too huh? Mwaa haha....🤐

[@chrisj4570g]

Wood working tools? ewwwwwww! Get them out of the shop before they contaminate your real tools!

[@Clough42]

I did all of the sawing and sanding for my deadlift platform out in the driveway because sawdust does, indeed, contaminate the lubricated ways of the machine tools.

[@chrisj4570g]

@@Clough42 yes it does. With dead tree carcass. Ick.

[@mrtnsnp]

I know you're trying to avoid safety related comments, but I think you may want some breathing protection against the fine dust that comes off of these wheels.