Setup With the Outdoor Helium Mobile Hotspot

My hotspot arrived to day and I decided to install it at the house as it would only reduce it's rewards by 75%. I'll figure a new place to put it later.
Outdoor Hotspot hellohelium.com/hotspotoutdoor
Setup Guide hellohelium.com/hotspotoutdoo...
HIP-85 github.com/helium/HIP/blob/ma...
Cat-6 Outdoor Ethernet Cable amzn.to/4b86c1N
Power Over Ethernet PoE+ Injector amzn.to/3U9vmHf
--I'm having an issue with these jumper cables so be warned-
Flat Ethernet Jumper Cable amzn.to/4b9VasQ
#helium #heliummining #heliumminingprofitability #hellohelium

[@bobbyvalet]

Thanks for all the videos. Your a smart guy willing to put in the work. Many helpful tips. Keep em coming please!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks, will do!

[@mannymanol0]

Hi. Perfect timing for this video. I also just received the outdoor unit yesterday. Thanks for sharing. Greatly appreciate it.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Glad it was helpful!

[@juancst6404]

Looking into this what’s your experience so far ?

[@richardlee730]

Just got mine today. Going to set it up after this rain. Great demo!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks!

[@keenefish]

Nice, got mine yesterday, so far you are the only one to show the set up. I tried to use my old mxc miners Poe but I guess they are too low powered, Amazon order will be here tomorrow. Thank you for the video

[@DoItJustinKace]

Glad I could help

[@jj1ser]

What poe did you go with?

[@djmaze2517]

Right on Justin! 😉👌🏼 My outdoor hotspot just came yesterday, I already bout the POE injector along with a pure copper Cat6 outdoor cable. Gonna be installing it on Saturday 🙂

[@DoItJustinKace]

Awesome! Sadly for me the CAT-6 is broken. I think I did something to it when unwinding it.

[@Darktron]

I felt so targeted when you said "add a new antenna that's not gonna happen" 😂😂😂

[@DoItJustinKace]

What? Ha! Sorry man.

[@Ryan-fy8bx]

Getting two of this outdoor hotspots today!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Hope the setup is easy! Still having POE issues with mine.

[@Ryan-fy8bx]

Yeah, my experience has been horrible if you saw my other comment. Good luck to both of us!

[@Darktron]

Can definitely put a new antenna in it or on it. Again the only advantage would be to hopefully extend the range and catch some helium mobile subscribers to connect at a further distance

[@DoItJustinKace]

True. No additional POE rewards.

[@unstoppable-ar3292]

Thanks brother.. hopefully you got off the roof safely lol..can I install two of the Helium Mobile outdoor Wifi hotspot on my house next to my 3 430S? I'M thinking about positioning them in different directions..

[@m.fernandez9811]

Amazing video Justin! thank you so much, it’s super helpful. I wanted to ask, is the cbrs radio linked to a 5g miner such as bobber 500?

[@DoItJustinKace]

a FreedomFi

[@NewMysticVegeta]

Hey Justin I have a similar setup. But with twin 430H's which i havent been able to get onlline yet because the Gateway FreedomFi is being difficult in onboarding. I now have the Outdoor Helium hotspot up and running but im not getting nearly as good coverage on the coverage map only like 207 hexes covered. I was wondering is this because of the angle or the height I have the hotspot installed? I was wondering what you might think since we have the same devices. Love your videos!

[@andreslizarazo4173]

Hi Justin, quick question: do you need to provide your SSN in order to use this hostpot?

[@mikemagnus1205]

Hi, great video. I have a question. If I purchase an outdoor hotspot, I need to register/setup at my house (Illinois) with my phone (scan QR codes etc.) if I want to deploy it at a relatives house (florida) do I need to be present at the new location with my phone or can I mail the hotspot to them and change the location remotely from IL? Any chance you can do a step by step video on this for us beginners? Thanks!

[@TechNinjain720p]

Hey Justin! You should definitely check out hip 103 to see how it’ll impact your rewards.. Maybe do a video on it

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah. I did actually. But it was at the end of the vote video.

[@acechad7800]

Hi, thank you for this video it was great! Had a question though, what do you recommend I connect first, my baicell NOVA 430h or my outdoor mobile hotspot? Thank you again!

[@DoItJustinKace]

you need to look at the planner and see what makes the most sense.

[@bryankirby289]

What size POE do we need? Will the more watts be better rewards?

[@JuanMartinez-qt9me]

Will it still work if I place it above garage and hook up to a mesh system or does it have to go directly to a router?

[@Minderbender94]

Great video, thanks! How long did it take for you to start earning rewards with this outdoor hotspot? I just set up mine yesterday. It's showing up as "online" on Helium Builder but yet to receive any rewards. Does it take longer than 24 hours to start producing rewards? Thx.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Did you check heliumgeek app and see if it's got a heartbeat? Mine didn't have heartbeat due to multiple issues and it needs 24 to get up and running.

[@LovethisNation]

Thanks for sharing. Do you know if you can buy a different adapter to screw it to the pole? Similarly to how you installed the CBRS? I’m waiting for mine but I don’t want the thing to slide!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Sure. There's a bunch of stuff out there, maybe stronger than what I got!

[@reviewsace]

Can I hook up a helium outdoor Hotspot and a x-net Acess point on the same router?

[@DaTyStew]

thanks for another great video,,,, I have an indoor miner, if i setup an outdoor at the same location would i lose rewards still?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’m a little fuzzy on this. But my understanding is an indoor hotspot will not impact an outdoor hotspot.

[@ocyk]

Hello Justin new subscriber! Enjoy the content and the info. Can you give me some advice? Where would be the best place to set up my hot spots? I have an indoor hotspot and just ordered an outdoor. I keep seeing different info on finding places with high traffic others say set it up at home. Just would like an opinion as to where the ideal place would be. Thank You!

[@DoItJustinKace]

planner.hellohelium.com/ is the best thing to look at first. Where are you located? What options do you have? Do you have a friend in a downtown area where people will sit for a while?

[@ocyk]

@@DoItJustinKace I'm located in Fresno Ca. City isn't huge about 500k. Looking at the planner map we have literally less than 15 helium hotspots showing in the explorer map in our city and don't have anyone downtown. I had an idea of talking to a friend that owns a barber shop and asking if she would let me set up there but still confused on how the earnings work. Do we get anything from people connecting to the free wifi or only from people subscribed to helium mobile? sorry if the questions are dumb just want to make sure i understand correctly.

[@gonzalochalliol]

Hey friend, I just put my hotspot in my building at 62 feet and it only gives me like 400 feet, could it be my poe injector, or is that distance normal? Thank you

[@rockymedero65]

Does the POE injector need to be connected to the modem? Also what out cords did you use? This will be my first outdoor setup

[@LucasLand]

on their website they link cable and poe injector they recommend on amazon. I bought what they suggested and work fine

[@DoItJustinKace]

I link them in the description. But POE injector is connected between the modem and the device.

[@DanielQuicenoOrtiz]

@@LucasLandty

[@SAYNOTO9TO5]

I just ordered mine from Hello helium today how long did it take you to get your miner

[@DoItJustinKace]

I ordered when a lot of people were ordering, so it took a while. I don’t think as many people are ordering these days.

[@chadwyk]

I know you said that CBRS is not transferring data in multiple videos, but are you getting daily rewards currently for having it deployed - just none for data transfer? Or no rewards at all?

[@DoItJustinKace]

POC rewards only.

[@leeoh1504]

⁠@@DoItJustinKace what’s that looking like for this specific device alone on POC rewards. $30/day? $100/day?

[@mla30ski]

Hi Justin What type of ribbon cable was that in your video?

[@DoItJustinKace]

It didn't work right. Don't use it. Not good with POE. I think.

[@BFaulkPlaylists]

I have a few questions , should I email or list them here ? Thank you for the info & consistency

[@DoItJustinKace]

What's up?

[@aneudylaraoficial]

@justinkace were you able to relocate the hotspot without any problems? I’m still trying, is no working. Thank you

[@DoItJustinKace]

The app is a little messed up for sure. But yes, I was able to move mine.

[@LargeSlushie]

What’s the difference between the FreedomFi antenna with gateway and the hello helium hotspot with no gateway?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Alot. You asking the difference between a 5G CBRS radio and Wi-Fi.

[@miketran3356]

Nice outdoor hotspot, I have an indoor and installed at my business, shopping plaza, average earn ~1000 mobile/day, close to earning that my Helium mobile service made. Just wondering, how the outdoor hotspot earning.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Any data transfer tho?

[@imani2023]

Justin, where did you get your parts and please give a list.

[@DoItJustinKace]

It's in the description.

[@2006mrderrickh]

Do you think it is still worth purchasing this unit? Helium planner estimates $24 reward in my location, but with changes coming next month, I don't know if I will ROI.

[@DoItJustinKace]

That is a conundrum. I wish I could tell you.

[@scottavery1960]

Put mine yup yesterday. Not that happy with the coverage it provides. My ethnet ca le was 7ft short so on the fly had to add an extra 75' cord. dropped my speeds under 100mbps. So got to shorten that today a d see I'd that gets me over the 100

[@DoItJustinKace]

Think it's the cable or something else causing the 10/100 issue? I'm trying a new POE+ injector

[@scottavery1960]

@@DoItJustinKace I've switched to every port on my switch, all pulling right. The only thing I haven't tried is swapping the poe(used a bobcat poe I had) or swap cord. I already have a second cord ran up, just got to change the connection. Will try both of those. 👍

[@scottavery1960]

@@DoItJustinKace the latest speed test with a POE+ got me to 98mbs. back to microcenter for a POE++ to try

[@scottavery1960]

@@DoItJustinKace the POE+ actually got it to 144mbs. Helium geek only shows an average but it has to average over 100. I should be good tomorrow. I hope lol

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@scottavery1960 the one I suggested? Hmmm… then I must have some other issue causing this….

[@LateNightPoker]

THANKS JUSTIN! Can you confirm you bought the 30W PoE+ Injector, or did you get 60W? Thanks

[@whiteboynmgamestreaming2531]

I think on the website it said the unit only needs 25w Max, I used a 30w and it worked great!

[@DoItJustinKace]

30w is good, but mine I'm worried is causing issues so I'm going to try a new one next.

[@LateNightPoker]

I ordered the one you recommended. What issues? Should I order a different one?

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@LateNightPoker it could be a totally different issues causing my problems. You may not have one at all. But I like to test. That said, I’m not getting the gigabit I should be.

[@ajmasters6546]

Hey sorry I know you mentioned it earlier but do you have a link to the flat cable you used?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Just a standard flat cat-6 cable. That's the best option.

[@WilliamMayCentury21]

I’ve been living under a rock for a year, so just realized that my bobcat minor supposed to be under a new net work or something I’m totally lost is my minor obsolete or can I still use it to generate HNT please help thank you

[@DoItJustinKace]

It generates IOT. And these generate MOBILE. So you're still making something. Just not that much of it.

[@russellloomis249]

what PEO inject do you have? what brand, I have one, but it's not working, green light comes on, but nothing happens with the hotspot... so maybe I need a new one... where did you purchase it? @Justin Kace

[@DoItJustinKace]

Amazon amzn.to/3U9vmHf

[@russellloomis249]

@@DoItJustinKace got it thanks, all setup

[@montereychameleonsandmore2666]

Curious what kind of rewards are we pulling in?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Doing okay for now with things going up.

[@Cervantez85]

Are you going to give an update on this install? How does it compare to the more expensive models?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I could, but with all the CBRS my location is crap. And all the friends places I've tried to have it don't have good enough internet so my rewards are cut in half. Sucks.

[@mustafakarakaya76]

I have helium indoor already and wanted to install freedom fi 430 but because I had to move to apartment complex there is no good angle so now ı am thinking helium outdoor might be an option for the balcony ? Or it can be good idea !? Does anyone tried or researched !?

[@DoItJustinKace]

What's the planner show?

[@mustafakarakaya76]

Est coverage shows 6200 but not sure if I exactly provide degrees and height etc but location is correct

[@dannyagustin7793]

Hey Justin. Just wanted to see if you could help with deployment. I have no luck with support on setting it up. I've done everything to deploy. But my hospot shows offline. I tried everything including rebooting and resigning and unable to find a solution. If you know of any solutions please share

[@DoItJustinKace]

You haven’t been able to contact Helium support? Have you gone onto the dashboard online to look at it? The dashboard should be connected to your Helium Wallet, which is connected to your hotspot.

[@mulliman8601]

Do you have a video that breaks down the equipment. I am not sure what to buy.

[@DoItJustinKace]

The planner video probably would explain best kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIPUm6t8hLaFmZI

[@ajmasters6546]

what's the status with the jumper cables you linked? they good to use or not?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I would not use them. At least I had problems with them. I ended up using a flat cable instead.

[@ajmasters6546]

@@DoItJustinKace have a link to that flat cable? 😄 Get that affiliate money 💰 lol

[@Blaisfpv]

After I setup, the Helium Hotspot app (solid blue) is saying there is a new device to onboard. It has a different name than the WiFi setup. Do I do that too?

[@DoItJustinKace]

What name? Not sure what you mean.

[@JimmyZ951]

did it take long to receive it?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah! Almost a month! But I was batch 3 so that was expected.

[@530deputydawg]

Set mine up yestday

[@swarajthapa5798]

How many tokens you are getting on the daily basis?Mobile tokens earned via mapping on phone is decreasing day by day

[@DoItJustinKace]

Well now I gotta wait for heartbeats! You have any yet?

[@530deputydawg]

@DoItJustinKace getting heartbeats but no rewards yet

[@chevyboi651990]

Just set mine up today. Same thing. Heartbeats are good but 0 rewards. Guess we’ll give it a few days

[@soulassassin4847]

@@chevyboi651990 it takes about 48 to 72 hours i think. Just like the indoor miner

[@Atlasdraggon]

Hey the antennae you suggested I purchased it but it’s on backorder for months , do you know if they will give a refund so I can pick another one from KP performance ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

KP performance does give refunds. I’m trying to get some now!

[@Atlasdraggon]

@@DoItJustinKace got mine right away and bought the In stock antennae on Amazon directly from helium

[@nathaniel302]

Good morning justin. I just would like to ask you what kind of poe injector i will buy. Can please send me the link of the specific poe injector that you used. Thank you in advance.

[@DoItJustinKace]

It's in the description amzn.to/3U9vmHf

[@nathaniel302]

Thank you

[@shanesskateboarding1430]

Do you have a promotion code for the miner? thanks

[@DoItJustinKace]

Nope. They don't offer one.

[@hybridepigenes]

Anyone know how to unlock the wallet? And how does one enable Bluetooth on these things?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Depends on which wallet. But what Bluetooth are you talking about?

[@Ryan-fy8bx]

Hey Justin, I’m a little confused. I thought each location can’t have three hotspot hotspots and 5 CBRS radios. I have 2 CBRS videos, was my order of 2 outdoor wifi hotspots useless?

[@DoItJustinKace]

If you’re gonna put all of those in the same location that is a bad idea.

[@Ryan-fy8bx]

Yup, changing plans. Got a new location. First outdoor hotspot seems to be a dud. Blinks once then nothing, no light at all. Really awesome, it’s been plugged in for hours.

[@minerjoel]

Can you set this up in a attic or will it not get signal?

[@DoItJustinKace]

It’s Wi-Fi. Walls are issues.

[@thecyberspace4733]

Just bought one they honored te 74$ discount but it was still 491 tax and delivery

[@itsthekidkc]

Is this only for US and Canada ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

US and Mexico I think.

[@fatrussiantrash8824]

How many watts should the injector be?

[@DoItJustinKace]

at least 30 IMO as the system needs 20.

[@papasmurful3964]

What voltage/watts do I need for the POE?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Get the POE+ and you should be fine.

[@thunderroad7289]

Might want to check your internet you speed is way down. The rest of my wifi come tomorrow. I’m still a cbrs guy. Love my 436 and 430s

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. The 50ft cable is bad. The outdoor one I'm waiting for comes Friday. Sucks.

[@mikejui]

Do you receive proof of coverage rewards even if no data is downloaded?

[@DoItJustinKace]

yes

[@mikejui]

How accurate is the planner on estmated rewards for poc?

[@blecho88]

Hi wish I can order in Canada but can't 😢

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah, only in US and Mexico.

[@kfclover69420]

can you have the indoor miner and outdoor miner in the same house?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Correct. They are on separate systems so apparently don’t affect each other.

[@antongreydon9404]

How many whats for the POE injector?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Hu? You need like POE+ which is 30.

[@gapanico]

I just received mine an hour ago. Still trying to persuade it to update the firmware 🤷‍♂️

[@gapanico]

Had it plugged into the wrong port on the router. 🤪 Rebooted and it updated. It is now in the process of becoming active.

[@DoItJustinKace]

So no solid blue?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Nice! Sadly my cat-6 to the roof is broken. Waiting for the replacement coming Friday.

[@gapanico]

It is solid blue, helium builder says it’s online, and Moken is showing heartbeats about every 15 minutes. They’re all invalid, but my indoor hotspot did the same thing for like the first day it was connected.

[@MrBosnia]

Is poe 30w or higher?

[@DoItJustinKace]

yes.

[@OddTarget]

Hi can run this without being a mobile Subscriber? I have a helium wallet with a bobcat miner already. Thanks 😊

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yes you can

[@DanielQuicenoOrtiz]

Hello guys do any one know WhichPOE injector brand is good injector?

[@DoItJustinKace]

The one linked to worked.

[@DanielQuicenoOrtiz]

@@DoItJustinKace ty. For your video 🙏👍

[@6644lexxx]

Do you still get rewards after you just plug and play without Helium phone coverage in the house?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Helium Mobile indoor hotspot will produce rewards from POC coverage

[@6644lexxx]

​@@DoItJustinKacedo you have a referral code for the outdoor hot spot?

[@imlit2654]

So no more lightning connector?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Didn't see a place to attach.

[@WassupFred]

Hey bro, I gotta question .. what if we place this in one spot and then want to move it, do we have to pay to set a new location? And how much?

[@WassupFred]

Just saw the rest of the video 😂.. that’s great news!!!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Glad you watched the rest of the video! I'm moving mine home again soon!

[@WassupFred]

@@DoItJustinKace so your not gonna put it at your sisters ?

[@workfromyourcomputer6114]

I'm getting less rewards on my indoor and outdoor hotspots then the cell phone Mapping. Been tracking for 3 weeks. Let's compare numbers hit me up thanks

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. They keep dropping. And dropping fast! I guessed they would be around 800 by the end of the month and looks like we're on track.

[@kfclover69420]

any reason why to set up 175 degrees?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Only because of my location in a ravine. That maximized rewards for me.

[@kfclover69420]

And how could I see what’s best for me?

[@6644lexxx]

Hey Justin! Do you need 24 hearts/hours before earnings show on my Mobile outdoor hotspot?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yes. Do you have 24?

[@6644lexxx]

@DoItJustinKace I am up and running with ❤️ beats! Thank you! Your information is gold or should I say MOBILE! 😂

[@decentralizeeverything1984]

Realistically, can it be used indoors such as an apartment complex?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Maybe for a gathering room. Not the entire complex.

[@decentralizeeverything1984]

Ok. Signal would probably get disrupted from all the walls.

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@decentralizeeverything1984 yeah. It’s more made for a room. And the distance is like 150ft assuming no walls.

[@decentralizeeverything1984]

@@DoItJustinKace shoot I thought it was much further. Will definitely have to adjust my placement now. Thanks Justin 👊🏻

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@decentralizeeverything1984 no problem. You should check the specifications on the website to verify everything.

[@hardeeps5295]

Anyone else stuck on acquiring GPS? Any advice?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Oh Wow. No. It connected right away. You sure it's hooked up right? And are you on the roof or at a window?

[@hardeeps5295]

@@DoItJustinKace was the window eventually got it to work. Thank You!

What HIP was it that they wanted to boycott rural deployments? 🤔 I received my 2 outdoor WiFi units this week but I haven't deployed them, still setting up my new house and I need some additional hardware I wanted to setup vlans.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Wish I could remember. Not even sure if it's passing. This is IOT or MOBILE? Good luck with the setup!

@@DoItJustinKace it's mobile, I'll have to think on this.

[@whiteboynmgamestreaming2531]

Believe it’s hip103?

@@whiteboynmgamestreaming2531 thanks I look that up now.

I'm thinking if I hurry up and deploy the worst case I might be able to make my money back.

[@Unboxedonyt]

So I you cant do like 2 CBRs and 3 5G ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Right now your limited to 3 and wifi and cbrs is treated the same.

[@Unboxedonyt]

@@DoItJustinKace I was in the discord and they were saying you can have more than 3. Sucks that’s there is no real clarity. I found a CBRS spoofing in my area just racking up rewards and they live in another state.

[@Unboxedonyt]

@@DoItJustinKace do you know if the hight of the CBRS is checked by helium or they go based on the numbers you put in?

[@LovethisNation]

@@Unboxedonytthis is a great question and I want to know this too

[@Ryan-fy8bx]

@@DoItJustinKaceHey Justin, can you point me to the HIP. I was pointed to a hello helium blog page that said 5 CBRS and 3 WiFi hotspots.

[@LucasLand]

ive had mine for 2 weeks now. first few days I was avg 4000 tokens. the last few days im only avg 1300 tokens

[@DoItJustinKace]

Dropping fast, hu?

[@6644lexxx]

​@DoItJustinKace can a household run an indoor and outdoor for more rewards? Also no CBRS radio and no Helium phone coverage in the household. Will we still earn rewards for a plug and play setup?

[@Jopn83]

Mobile mapping is down to 800.00 a day and dropping 😢

[@zillatech8703]

So in theory can this be mounted in my pick up truck with no issues ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

No. It wants a specific address. It also wants a specific download and upload speed.

[@peraltaman]

that

[@DoItJustinKace]

okay.

[@TimotejFedlimid-zo3hy]

Helium planner estimates my daily rewards for the outdoor antenna to be as much as my daily rewards for my phone. What the heck?

[@Atlasdraggon]

Same that’s why I went with the 436 model Instead for the 4x rewards

[@TimotejFedlimid-zo3hy]

@@Atlasdraggon Seems like you could just add Helium Mobile to several cheap Android phones and come out way ahead.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah, not that great depending where you are. Wifi just doesn't go that far.

[@RobvanGils]

Invested in 4 hotspot 2 years ago they are offline and i don’t believe in helium any more

[@DoItJustinKace]

Understood

[@cardanium5790]

Bought 2 of them . Thankfully, i didn't buy more . I walk 10 hours a day and i have 3 phones on me at the same time just to test things out . 3 galaxy S21+ and the mapping was a joke 😂 each phone has different mapping events and different rewards . Now I'm just waiting for the price of HNT to go up and i will never invest in this company anymore. Lesson learned

[@DoItJustinKace]

Understood. Yeah, I feel ya.

[@don86baby]

If you have an Outdoor device and a Bicells device don’t you get penalized?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Not with HIP-105.