Seven More Game Master Sins - RPG Philosophy

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Seth Skorkowsky

Seth Skorkowsky

Күн бұрын

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@rathtwin_los0265
@rathtwin_los0265 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe seth has no players, it's just him and his multiple personalities
@UltraBebo
@UltraBebo 7 жыл бұрын
Rathtwin_Los 026 bro I'm dying 😂😂😂😂
@hammond1994
@hammond1994 6 жыл бұрын
Failed his sanity check? :)
@StephMcAlea
@StephMcAlea 6 жыл бұрын
And we're all like "(sniff) we should have staged an intervention. We should've known he'd run amok dressed as a gangster from the twenties and trying to kill people by hitting them over the head with the 7th edition slip case!"
@phillipmele8533
@phillipmele8533 6 жыл бұрын
Rathtwin_Los 026 That’s fairly convenient for Seth. Doesn’t have to worry about players not showing up unless he takes his pills.
@mattiasbrunzell8957
@mattiasbrunzell8957 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have that, just think how much more you'd be able to play =)
@Waitwhat469
@Waitwhat469 5 жыл бұрын
"I am always looking for traps" "If I am looking for traps then I'm crawling" There fore he is always crawling, at all times, carefully looking for traps.
@Xenibalt
@Xenibalt 5 жыл бұрын
PRONE CHARACTER YOU SAY!?!?!? - me, a DM thinking of how bad it's going to be for this guy when the ceiling falls on him and he CAN'T possibly move because prone and can't see it because looking for floor traps
@wickederebus
@wickederebus 4 жыл бұрын
AMD here I was expecting this to go the way of anime traps
@bird9230
@bird9230 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xenibalt I felt pretty empathetic for the first request, it was reasonable, the second one had me laughing.
@swissarmyknight4306
@swissarmyknight4306 4 жыл бұрын
Seems legit.
@benjaminlabarge4899
@benjaminlabarge4899 3 жыл бұрын
This is where I like the concept of Instincts from burning wheel. A few things that your character always is assumed to do (ie. I always put my armor on when I'm on watch)
@coreyl6221
@coreyl6221 7 жыл бұрын
"Yeah my character went insane and shot himself AND I still had a good time." Hilarious.
@akizeta
@akizeta 6 жыл бұрын
That happened in our last CoC game. Not to me, but another player failed his SAN roll, started shooting the other PCs, then when the local police surrounded the clock tower decided to bite a bullet.
@codypatton2859
@codypatton2859 5 жыл бұрын
One of my players had a character go into a depressive spiral that ended in suicide. It was one of the funnest sessions he ever played, his words.
@agsilverradio2225
@agsilverradio2225 5 жыл бұрын
I will take all of this as advice, if I'm ever a GameMaster
@TheCFKane1982
@TheCFKane1982 4 жыл бұрын
If you aren't planning on going absolutely insane as soon as possible when playing CoC, then you aren't doing it right.
@marcar9marcar972
@marcar9marcar972 4 жыл бұрын
Corey L you think that’s bad, in my CoC game a player blew his brains out playing Russian Roulette, he died but he came back to life, lost sanity from dying, had a bit of madness in which he decided to go a second round in Russian Roulette, he blew his balls off and died again
@WanderingWitch83
@WanderingWitch83 6 жыл бұрын
*forgets the rules* *Forgets the npc's names* *Forgets the pcs' names* *Forgets past events* *Forgets the name of the continent* BUT I'M TRYING SO HARD
@daniblabla709
@daniblabla709 5 жыл бұрын
*Forgets the game's name* *Forgets they're playing a game* *Forgets their players' names* *Forgets their own name* *Forgets*
@METALGEARMATRIX
@METALGEARMATRIX 5 жыл бұрын
Notes my man. It helps so much
@alias9731
@alias9731 4 жыл бұрын
@@METALGEARMATRIX I have all of it right in front of me on my DM Screen but I'm to busy to look at it or lose orientation, because the rules of a whole book are shrinked together on 4 sheets of paper.
@davidburton9690
@davidburton9690 4 жыл бұрын
@@alias9731 the more difficult the crunch, the more I can deempathize the rules and give more leeway to the players' actions. Don't always need to do it, but if it keeps the adventure going and the players engaged, that is better than inconsistent calculus. But you need the players to like this solution's style, as well.
@QuintMorrison6
@QuintMorrison6 4 жыл бұрын
I recently ran a game where a major NPC was named Arthur. My PCs kept screwing up his name and calling him Alfred. So, in the middle of the second session of two, I kept screwing up his name because they had, so I joked their characters had so little respect for him that they just called him Alfred and so as far as they’re concerned, he’s Alfred. Names are always the hardest for me anyways.
@kalajel
@kalajel 7 жыл бұрын
I used to have this DM who used to think that the quality of an adventure was measured by the number of PCs it killed... Yeah, that was fun...
@sailormay2541
@sailormay2541 7 жыл бұрын
So... Your DM was George R.R. Martin? That sucks!
@shadycactus6146
@shadycactus6146 6 жыл бұрын
tbh that’s my greatest fear about playing d&d
@felipercalvo
@felipercalvo 6 жыл бұрын
have that done properly, in fast and meaningless games where (if its D&D) everybody starts around level 6 at least, it can be fun, but it need to be an exception e kinda requires experienced players
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone secretly wanted to play Paranoia...
@elgatochurro
@elgatochurro 6 жыл бұрын
uhh... no... the threat needs to be there, my players have reached level 6 and are starting to overpower encounters i already had more... lowered in a way, i didnt wanna overwhelm them at once but hey now i have to make it harder.
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 7 жыл бұрын
I would totally let the player get away with the #3 scenario, but then make it so that he has to crawl EVERYWHERE. Afterall, if he's always looking for traps, and looking for traps means crawling, then he's always crawling.
@realmofdoors9605
@realmofdoors9605 7 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheLuckOfTheClaws
@TheLuckOfTheClaws 6 жыл бұрын
Was he raised by bears?
@baronvonkek8467
@baronvonkek8467 5 жыл бұрын
*Linkin Park intensifies*
@davidclark2540
@davidclark2540 4 жыл бұрын
That's sadistic! I like it.
@StutleyConstable
@StutleyConstable 7 жыл бұрын
What about the sin of the obvious object? The one and only time I played Call of Cthulhu my character found a set of keys in a house. I assumed they were house keys and tried them on every locked door in the place, but they did not fit the locks. Much later in the game the GM revealed the keys were actually car keys. Anyone picking up car keys would know they were car keys, especially after trying to unlock a house door. I am not sure why my friend specifically targeted me in this manner, but there were several other incidents like this during the game which is why I never played CoC again.
@SSkorkowsky
@SSkorkowsky 7 жыл бұрын
Damn. You're absolutely right. I've had that one, too. The GM gets all, "Well I didn't tell you because you didn't ask the specifics," even though the specifics should have been extremely obvious to the PC
@SapphireCrook
@SapphireCrook 7 жыл бұрын
I think a good way to phrase it is this: "The GM is the eyes and ears, and as such, must make obvious all that is obvious on just sight and sound alone". This means you don't have to explain what the scratchmarks mean, only that anyone 'in the scene' would notice them.
@willinnewhaven3285
@willinnewhaven3285 7 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of the old "Adventure" game on a mainframe :You are walking beside a rocky stream: "I pick up a rock" :I see no 'rock' here:
@EtherealDoomed
@EtherealDoomed 7 жыл бұрын
First, I would have told you they were car keys. That said, if this did happen, as GM I would have gotten sick of telling you the keys didn't work and said, "You come to the sudden realization that these are car keys and you probably won't accomplish anything using them in the house" just so I didn't have to field the same crap over and over and over.
@strangeclaims
@strangeclaims 7 жыл бұрын
StutleyConstable It's 'cause your character is stupid. Boom, bitch!
@oldladywinchester
@oldladywinchester 7 жыл бұрын
I had a GM who would get bored with his own campaign rather quickly, but instead of saying to us "let's do something else" the world would get progressively harder and hostile till he forced a tpk.
@schaddenkorp6977
@schaddenkorp6977 Жыл бұрын
What the ever loving hell? Wow that’s a very insane roundabout way of doing it.
@taylordnd
@taylordnd 7 жыл бұрын
7) Too Rigid to the Rules 1:06 6) Not Knowing the Rules 3:30 5) Too Eager to Assist 6:41 4) Murder happy 8:31 3) Letting Players Push Them Around 10:33 2) Commitment Issues 12:43 1) Never Scheduling the Game 16:12
@1234q-q8x
@1234q-q8x 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@99Bobson
@99Bobson 7 жыл бұрын
I had a case of a murder happy GM, where I changed 6 characters in 6 months, and a friend that was also playing changed ELEVEN CHARACTERS in the same time. Let's just say that after the campaign had ended, when the GM suggested we play a new one in the same setting, we outright refused And that is how I started GM-ing, haha So far, no complaints Keep up the videos, love them all!
@brianleonard7685
@brianleonard7685 7 жыл бұрын
Crazy! Sometimes I appreciate those types of GMs because now I know what NOT to do for the games I run.
@SapphireCrook
@SapphireCrook 7 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you were the good guys and not the goons?
@notcamer0n
@notcamer0n 7 жыл бұрын
Once in a Shadowrun campaign it became a running joke for my character to die or get caught every time I every play, because I lost 7 characters in about 4 months due to bad luck, bad planning and/or my own stupidity. I ended up making characters who get hired for one run then switch to another character for the next game regardless of their fate (I was more a guest player by that point than a regular so it worked out.) By the way if you’ve got awful luck don’t ever play an demolitions expert with practically 0 edge
@NuclearSavety
@NuclearSavety 7 жыл бұрын
1 character death per month? in a group we had 1 death per play session ;-)
@TheAtemAndrew
@TheAtemAndrew 7 жыл бұрын
Only time I've let that happen as a DM is when I'm purposefully putting them through the grinder in a oneshot, such as putting them through the Tomb of Horrors.
@DarthMalnu
@DarthMalnu 7 жыл бұрын
You must have bought that shirt at the mountains of radness.
@itzybitzyspyder
@itzybitzyspyder 4 жыл бұрын
Funny because these weren't in MoM.
@reflexeffect2
@reflexeffect2 7 жыл бұрын
I think you should add one called “inability to take criticism”, me and a bunch of players recently backed out of a campaign where the gm was committing a lot of the “gm sins”, but instead of just outright quitting, I decided to help him, me being an experienced gm myself, with some critiques on the recent session(s) that caused a lot of problems with the players, he did not take it well the first time I tried to critique him and straight up kicked me out of the group in a fit of rage (you may be asking yourself, “well, did you insult him/raise your voice/ ect...” I assure you that none of that happened) a day later he calmed down and invited me back into the group, I forgave him and decided to come back, but now everybody is too afraid of the gm to question him at all. And the campaign ultimately came to an end later on in the most spectacular rage quit I have ever seen from a gm. I believe his anger came from his pride, he was too attached to his campaign to the point that to admit any fault was to imply a lack of intelligence or just bad gming, so therefore any critique to the game is a direct insult to him.
@guntisveiskats6053
@guntisveiskats6053 7 жыл бұрын
Vozzici , A GM who goes into rage upon slightest criticism needs a psychotherapist...
@muranternet
@muranternet 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have gone back. Even if your criticism was invalid, that's a sign that either the GM is too unstable to have any fun in his game, or the GM has decided that you're a bad fit for his game. Either way there's no reason to return.
@synthetic240
@synthetic240 6 жыл бұрын
There's also the reverse, from the DM's side, "inability to provide feedback". I've been trying to get my players to tell me what they think of the game, what they'd like to do, or if I'm on the right track with my GM / writing style. All I get is, "Yeah, it's fun! I'm easy-going, no suggestions." I mean, I guess it's good that they keep coming and saying they look forward to it. But I also think that I've learned a lot of the previous campaigns that didn't go well or fell apart because of those DM'ing errors.
@stuarttaft6029
@stuarttaft6029 6 жыл бұрын
One thing you might try is a review of the game session that the players write. We do this in my campaign, and it is helpful for both GM and player. Our GM gives a bonus if we do it. Something like an extra advantage for the next session (my GM wrote cards that were related to the campaign, and that's the reward, but I don't expect every GM to do this) or, if the game has hero points or an equivalent, something like that. Nothing too huge, of course, but a reward like that could induce the feedback.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, getting a player to give a recap means you get to find out what the players think is important, and avoids giving away what you think is important, and gives them a bit more ownership over the campaign as well.
@golvic1436
@golvic1436 7 жыл бұрын
I limit myself to 3 systems. I am only allowed to run one system per time slot. That is how I work around my GM "ooh look at the kitty" moments.
@kachiechan
@kachiechan 7 жыл бұрын
This is a really good idea. Thanks for the advice!
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
Another option is to see whether you can convert the things that are getting you excited about the new game into the existing one. Some things are easier to translate than others, but you can bring a surprising amount over with a bit of creativity...
@azarinevil
@azarinevil 5 жыл бұрын
I run 4-5 systems, but yeah I define specific session slots over the course of a month dedicated to what system and group I play with. I have a couple D&D 5e, a Starfinder, a VTM 5e, and a Call of Cthulhu, I also run the occasional random one shot on top for new players or try new systems. Both D&D are twice a month, alternating weeks in the same time slot. The other three are all once a month on the same day of the week and time slot, just alternating by week. I use the fourth week on the monthly slot to run my one shots or just take a day off LOL.
@marcar9marcar972
@marcar9marcar972 4 жыл бұрын
Golvic I think switching systems is fine, but it needs to be done only after a campaign, not in the middle of one, unless switching systems is a integral part of campaign but I doubt it
@geeknerdgamer8938
@geeknerdgamer8938 4 жыл бұрын
9:42 "Player Characters die all the time for a whole wide array of reasons..." I remember when my first character died. She was a Halfling Rogue in DND 5e. The monk, and jerk (the pc not the player), of our party, was going through all of our things as we slept and managed to steal the journal of a dead pc from me. I woke up and discovered that he took it, and the bard charmed him to make him give it back. After this, the monk made an unarmed strike in a fit of anger, the player only wanting to do a little damage. After a critical hit from him, a 100 rolled on percentiles, a failed constitution score from me, and a frantic scramble from everyone to try and help me, my character dropped dead in the middle of our campaign. That was the only time a 100 was rolled on percentiles for the entire campaign.
@megamarsonic
@megamarsonic 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna whoop your ass." The mustache man is my new favorite character. XD
@MrGonecrazy001
@MrGonecrazy001 5 жыл бұрын
"Shh, I'm lying." Best KZbin line of all time.
@Billchu13
@Billchu13 4 жыл бұрын
"My character went insane and shot himself but I still had a great time!"
@vichraev.5386
@vichraev.5386 6 жыл бұрын
"My character went insane and shot himself" I laughed way too hard at this. Thanks for the vid, this one is also my greatest sin, in RPGs and in life. I ready a personality profile somewhere once that described the phenomenon. It said something along the lines of "You get exceited about new ideas and ventures, but your enthusiasm wanes as you begin to realize the outcome in your mind, and you don't need to actually reach that outcome to be satisfied. Thus you move on to another project."
@patarfuifui
@patarfuifui 10 ай бұрын
My first GM had the opposite problem of too rigid to the rules. He always homebrews absolutely everything and is hilarious surprised when things break
@SapphireCrook
@SapphireCrook 7 жыл бұрын
I feel that, if schedule is such a killer, there should be a shift towards the players to, if need be, take the responsibility onto themselves. Like, I know GMs who are... really good, but they don't have the social skills to handle proper scheduling (disappointment anxiety can run rampant when people say no to a bunch of dates), or the guesswork involved with more 'free' players. This isn't a preferable scenario, but a group of friends I play with has a few wise words about it: "It's easy to blame someone else, especially if it's expected of them, even if you could've solved it yourself trice over." After all, you play in a group, and shouldering each others weaknesses so their strengths shine all the stronger is key! Admittedly, that phrase refers to players who play other people's classes better (such as the giant barbarian gnoll sneaking like a shadow, whereas the rogue runs gunsblazing into situations), but it works on this situation as well.
@SirStrangefolk
@SirStrangefolk 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. My GM does a good job of GMing, but planning is hard and some players have a lot of reasons why they can't always play. Since I'm usually the one who is most eager to play again and I do have some free time, I usually start planning the next session.
@BordrKing
@BordrKing 7 жыл бұрын
I seriously feel like it's not entirely on the GM to schedule. As a player, I take an active role in planning. As a GM, I expect my players to do the same. I host a lot but I expect other people to offer to host as well
@johnyshadow
@johnyshadow 7 жыл бұрын
I had/have a group that, when I start planning next session too much in advance, no one knows if they are going to be "free", (and then usually aren´t) and if I go for "Let´s meet tomorrow", everyone is busy. So we only play when they actually call me, which is not nearly as often as I´d like.
@Cerebus1000
@Cerebus1000 7 жыл бұрын
I do most of the scheduling, but I try and ask all of my players when they'll be available so that I have a decent time-frame at the least. I've also noticed stuff like Facebook groups and apps like Doodle and the like are really helpfull in getting the game scheduled.
@guntisveiskats6053
@guntisveiskats6053 7 жыл бұрын
Johny Shadow, "everyone is busy" sounds so familiar...
@tylerpeck9754
@tylerpeck9754 3 жыл бұрын
the little *added bonus* - JUST ROLL THE DICE!! completely agree! lets keep the game moving!!
@Colouroutofspace4
@Colouroutofspace4 7 жыл бұрын
"Cheating" I had a gm that would cheat CONSTANTLY. The most egregious example was when he had a druid cast stoneskin before the party showed up. He was new to gming 3.5 so he was looking thorugh how it worked. he asked me (The most experienced with 3.5) how the spell worked in this edition, I explained and he mentioned the druid's level of...5. "Then he can't cast stoneskin." "WHATEVER! a druid would know stoneskin, he had a scroll so it's at the minimum level." I would say that this was a one time thing, but it was constant. Especially with things casting spells that they don't have to negate whatever my character just did. I cast Fear on the ogres, and the hag watching from the shadows that nobody saw casts dispel magic immediately afterward. Pissed me off so much. I never wanted to play an area control caster ever again after that.
@leonardoraele
@leonardoraele Жыл бұрын
About commitment problems, a good advice is to declare upfront to the plays that you are planning to run only a small campaign, 5-10 sessions. Even if you want to run more, if you know you have history of lack of motivation, you should do it anyway to set players expectations. You can always extend the campaign later if you are feeling motivated.
@IsabelleZephyr
@IsabelleZephyr 7 жыл бұрын
I've had a few games where game masters fell into the opposite of the "too eager to assist", too eager to gimp. Maybe it falls under the "too controlling" from the first video, but I think there's some difference. In some cases, I've understood as a player I've made mistakes, but I think the most obvious instance of it was recent. It was D&D 5e, I'd built the team's rogue with my biggest worry being traps. I don't like traps, so I made sure I still had a decent Wisdom and took the Observant feat, so my passive perception was calculated with a 15 instead of a 10. The very first instance of a trap in the game, despite my wasting the time to look in about three of four different ways while the rest of the party had been kidnapped, I was denied even manual searching because "it was on the other side of the door". I accepted this but then decided my character would be paranoid of it afterwards, not to be caught twice. Fast forward to the moment that broke the campaign, we were dealing with a thieves guild and we had to solve their labyrinth. Less than a round in, a trap is sprung by one of the other players. Knowing we're dealing with traps, I want the rogue on edge. So I take point, light up a light source so that it removes darkness from the equation at the cost of us being obvious going through the halls and... Flip a trap. I ask why my at this point 20+ passive can't detect the trap in obvious light and am given no real answer. I pull out my wand of detect magic... No magic preventing me... Etc, etc. The reason given was "they were layed by thieves, so they're tougher", because he wanted it to be a challenge and make us roll perception every player, every turn. It was a massive slow down to the game, and made any of our preparation feel useless. It wasn't the only sin of the game, but it was the one that broke our backs as the players.
@SapphireCrook
@SapphireCrook 7 жыл бұрын
Personally, a good trap isn't a tax, but something players realize. Scratch marks, blood stains, oddly clean tiles. I hate the concept of perception rolls being a constant, so I usually shorthand taking 10 and only roll when attention is taken or the keenness of the sense matters (in combat, or hearing a faint noise behind a door). This makes players less paranoid, saves time, and makes traps THEIR fault for not figuring out the decapped corpse next to the slit in the wall. Of course, that requires some degree of prep or skill to pull off. But hey, beats people nagging about traps being anti-player.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 7 жыл бұрын
I could probably host a series for months on end about traps and trapping practices in the confines of D&D alone... Sorry to hear about your experience, but you've got an under-educated GM (regarding traps anyways)... As for the challenging to "checks" ratios... I was in from 2nd ed. so we based most or all perceptions on IQ... but the source doesn't particularly matter. (just pointing to where my terminology comes from) The way I usually go about traps, ploys, and decoys, for players... Is with a general description of the locale (first pass) based on passive perception (I usually went with "party pool" or an average, but I can get behind the 5e method)... Then comes the players' actions and perceptions as they learn to ASK QUESTIONS AND INVESTIGATE... This is (second pass) and works simply, roll IQ, call a number (pass or fail and by how much)... Then I explain what you "learned" as a character based on that... Third passes and further depend on this result and work basically the same way. Here's the nuance. Players will be allowed to visualize and figure things out as they do. Characters do the actions as called. BUT if the player is concerned for "miscommunication" or "misunderstanding", he or she can always roll IQ and ask something new... OR hope for a reasonable enough result to convince me to help with visual aids or whatever... Once they make an action, whatever it is, however, it's an action... with consequences.... SO I'm not hard to get along with, but it pays dividends to be able to explain clearly HOW exactly you're studying or probing something you find suspicious. That's the fun of the role-play... getting people to actively engage with demonstrations and theater. ON THE TRAPS THEMSELVES... Did it occur to you or your GM that not all traps have to be deadly or horrifically dangerous? The military classifies traps three ways. Offensive traps try to injure or kill... Defensive traps just try to hinder (any damage caused is coincidental)... AND Distractionary traps are there to confuse or cause alarm (no real harm even intended)... Clever use of those tactical principles can make a game FAR more entertaining and truly more difficult and mind-boggling than just a linear series of HP-taxing defeats and lack-luster explanations of what's even "hard" about the ordeal. :o)
@AlluMan96
@AlluMan96 6 жыл бұрын
That is a very dangerous mentality for a DM to have; The kind of DM that never let's players exploit a thing or take advantage of a cool skill. The logic with these DMs is sound enough. They are simply concerned about making things too easy and wanting players to earn each victory. However, an equally integral part of a healthy game, especially important during early levels, is giving situations that are completely avoided thanks to the player's unique set of skills. If I was running that game, I'd have made sure that session 1 had a handful of wired traps for you to spot and disarm. Not just because I'm me and like small traps here and there (#Koboldsrule), but because that gives you the opportunity to display how cool your character is, give you a moment to shine, justify your specialization route and help you make a connection to your character, which leads to better, more in-depth roleplay. If you're going to make someone with a passive perception and investigation of 22 at level 1 roll every time he wants to identify that the carrot sitting below a box held up by a stick with a string on it is a trap, you might as well have not even had that player choose a class and tell him he's playing a farmboy.
@elgatochurro
@elgatochurro 5 жыл бұрын
My old GM would NEVER let me roll to stay up a night, instant exhaustion, all the time, always punished... no due roll at all even on a character who could literally stay up without being sleep deprived... Even worse when we switched i.e characters from 4th to 5th edition and all the other players got customizations or changed playstyles, I couldn't spend 2 WHOLE FEATS just to use a shield on my warlock... medium armor training and war caster... it WASN'T allowed... he considered it meta gaming/ min maxing...
@thetypingape2073
@thetypingape2073 6 жыл бұрын
I find myself watching these videos just for the skits!
@skarredcat
@skarredcat 6 жыл бұрын
"Papa WotC, will DnD 6th edition have fun melee combat?" "Why yes Jimmy of course it wil- 16:10 "
@otisthecan3112
@otisthecan3112 3 жыл бұрын
I've found that scheduling a game at a consistent time each week REALLY helps keep it together
@synthetic240
@synthetic240 6 жыл бұрын
Heh, I definitely fight with myself on the "being too helpful" error. I think I've mostly gotten over it, but it's still a strong impulse. There's a moment of panic when you realize that the critical clue the players need is hidden in a particular place and... they didn't look at it. So now you've got to choose: do you awkwardly have one of them "notice it", or do you let the PCs come to the wrong conclusion and potentially screw up the adventure? Now, whenever I have a puzzle or mystery, I make use of the axiom, "The players are never as clever as the DM thinks they are." It's not meant as an insult, just that the DM has the advantage of a god-like overview of, well, everything the DM built. What's obvious to the DM can be easily overlooked by a player when a sly hint flies over their heads. Either the puzzle/trap/whatever needs to be designed not to punish the players too harshly for failure or ensure that the linchpin is made interesting enough to investigate fully. Dial that cleverness back 1 or 2 notches.
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos 7 жыл бұрын
I kinda stopped a Call of Cthulhu campaign to make a OneShot of RuneQuest, to try something different. Now, the idea was never to stop the Cthulhu game, even though I expressed that I think the story I've been writing is a bit stale and not that well done. BUT, I also told them that it was a OneShot, and it was just to test another system so I can learn and improve more as a GM and after that we were back to Cthulhu. Then one told me - "What about if we like this one and want to continue this?" - "Well, then it's up to you". I wasn't really thinking about cutting the campaing to jump into another thing it was more like a break to try something different, a different experience. But if they're willing to do this other thing, then I'll see what can be done.
@BordrKing
@BordrKing 7 жыл бұрын
Karanthaneos best way to do it if you're a GM with the above problem tbh. A one shot is a self contained adventure with everything you need to have a fun time with the new system all in one session. It's a good way to take a break and try new things and let the players decide what they want to play. Game sessions, with all the work that come with them, are still supposed to be just a fun game night. And it's supposed to be a fun game night for /everyone/ GM included
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 7 жыл бұрын
Just something to think about... You mentioned directly that you thought the CoC campaign was getting a little stale, yourself... Maybe the player who nudged you with the idea of liking the new one is inclined to agree. It's not a bad GM move to probe the players a little off-table about what's working and what's... well... not so much. In fact, there's really no better way to find your strengths as a GM and play to them... while taking authentic critique as you go and figuring out where you can experiment to improve. Maybe the storyline is the problem, but maybe it's an enthusiasm/energy thing. Some GM's take YEARS to get around to running a full-on multiple layers of thinking and plots, and over-arching themed campaigns... They instead run campaigns that go for a chapter or two, and then let someone else handle some of the "heavy lifting"... OR they just work on "one-shots" for a long long time before really getting ambitious... OR... or ,...or... So it's perfectly okay to close a campaign as "it was fun while it lasted"... We're GM's and Players here... NOT Shakespeare nor Tolkien (as much as some of us would like to be)... lolz... Lots and lots of campaigns have faded out just the same as they've ever been "killed". So don't forget to breathe and relax a moment, and then take on new and exciting experiments while you test yourself and ask players how it's working... or not. You honestly will only be better for it. :o)
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos 6 жыл бұрын
Been talking with some of my players about this and it basically boils down to "The idea seemed interesting, but it wasn't as cool as expected". So maybe it was just a matter of the setting that ultimately wasn't that catchy. After we finish the OneShot (everybody been with lots of exams and stuff so we could just do half of it. It kinda defies the idea of a OS, but whatever), we'll see if it's something they're interested in continuing with the setting. The original idea was Call of Cthulhu in the 90's with more familiar places that we frequent or know about so it had more of a closer connection to them, but ultimately I felt more of a connection with the standard game of Boston in 1920. The new setting of RuneQuest is homebrew. I asked them which time would they want to try it and the fuckers told me the Paleolithic, so we're on a custom world I made up where not even the wheel, domestication and farming have been invented. Until now, except for a couple details, they quite a good time, and there's a possibility we might keep doing that one.
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the replies, they've been super useful guys
@METALGEARMATRIX
@METALGEARMATRIX 5 жыл бұрын
I mean it helps that Runequest/Mythras is an awesome system. One day I'll run a Conan game in it. One day...
@Sasqmo
@Sasqmo 7 жыл бұрын
some kinds of rules are just anti-player in general, like the DnD rules for golem creation, I get not wanting to have players making golems willy nilly, how many players are gona spend like half a year to make a golem when they could be enjoying adventures. Or basic crafting... not being able to craft more than 5gp worth of items in a day... 300 days to make a fricken suit of plate armor? What kind of armorsmith takes an entire year to make one suit of armor? how would they be able to support themselves, no wonder there's so many roving bands of bandits, because the rules of the world make it impossible to live honestly.
@torysaccount5753
@torysaccount5753 7 жыл бұрын
Well Armor took very long to be made, however it was as expensive as a whole farm including cattle and the house. So, yeah, realism is not always fun
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 7 жыл бұрын
I would point out that this complaint can go two ways... First of all, RPG's in general are supposedly adventure games, so to advance a crafting means of income is... well... kinda pointless, so that's the "WHY" for the rules being written the way they are... However, there is also that point about the GM-sin of being "ALL THE RULES ALL THE TIME!!!" and it's just a pain in the @$$... Sometimes, the party comes to a problem that can just be best resolved with a "crafting" solution. Sometimes the party (the table general consensus) is that "We need a golem... damnit." and that's it. In these cases, I personally refer to the very first edition of the original AD&D series DMG, right down to Chapter 1. "Never EVER let the rules get in the way of the game." So the theory goes (something) like this... When the party consensus is that crafting must be the answer, and they either agree to the down-time... So be it, fast-forward and (appropriately) cost them time... OR if the party consensus reaches the crafting solution and they team up, you can allow the teamwork to be worth considerably more than the sum of the players (parts?)... Fast forward, since there's little point in arguing and stifling the game... Simple as that. You don't have to encourage crafting, but once in a while, characters most certainly SHOULD be allowed any fullest use of the system... and even occasional abuse. :o)
@GonnaDieNever
@GonnaDieNever 7 жыл бұрын
Torys Account it takes longer to make leather armor than plate in real life, even during the medieval period, several pieces of plate can be made in a day by a skilled blacksmith, leather needs a long time to Tan.
@geekychannel2543
@geekychannel2543 6 жыл бұрын
Stirgid Lanathiel Honestly though if you're a roving adventurer and trying to make an armor plate or shield (or in my characters case a druid dart) the whole thing back fires and creates the same issue it's trying to prevent, especially if you find tools or a shop somewhere.
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos 6 жыл бұрын
I think that the problem with DnD is that it usually handles the healing and time consuming stuff as a hinderance to the adventure. Yes, when you want to play a fast paced adventure, things like crafting are quite hard to use, but I think that with some management it can be done. It's ok for the characters to take a couple days of rest between adventures so they can have some down time to prepare their gear, maybe try to socialize with people in the town, etc, but it should be done in a way that it doesn't take that much time from what your players want to do the most. I think that you can fastforward that stuff and sort it out with a couple rolls, unless they want to explore on other stuff more character related while the other player is on his crafting, taking enough time bewteen their actions to not leave anybody waiting for too long. It's kinda hard, but I think it's perfectly doable
@cygnia
@cygnia 5 жыл бұрын
Course, with #1, my players never could be bothered until the last second to TELL ME IF THEY WERE COMING OR NOT even when I tried to schedule weeks in advance.
@willinnewhaven3285
@willinnewhaven3285 7 жыл бұрын
Player: Why can't I ram the gate? GM:
@jeffbangle4710
@jeffbangle4710 6 жыл бұрын
I like how the backgrounds kept changing as you did your "time skips" switching campaigns - very high production values there!
@samwhary5498
@samwhary5498 6 жыл бұрын
"Damn I was just about to suggest that"
@FernandMaC
@FernandMaC 6 жыл бұрын
Much respect for the time you put in to film the scenarios; They're dope! Thanks for the tips too!
@alecc9268
@alecc9268 7 жыл бұрын
OMG I about died laughing with the Campaign-Hopping. That's MY worst sin too. This year alone I think I bounced from Burning Wheel to Fantasy AGE, to Star Wars, to Phoenix: Dawn Command... and I am all jazzed about this new game I want to switch to in late December/January... and even NOW, pumped up for THAT campaign... I am circling Symbaroum like a shark... I SWEAR that I won't want to run a Symbaroum game in 4 months! No, I'm not crossing my fingers behind my back... I am just uh... getting a thing out of my pocket... yeaaaah, that's the ticket...
@adam8688
@adam8688 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, biggest sin committed too.
@guntisveiskats6053
@guntisveiskats6053 7 жыл бұрын
For those with a taste for trying out newer and newer rulesets (pokes to the image in mirror) GMless games are okay, and I mean those that are clearly one-shots. Like Fiasco, Protocol, Primetime Adventures...
@mordokai597
@mordokai597 5 жыл бұрын
that was why (long ago) i liked "Steve Jackson Games: G.U.R.P.S./The Generic Universal Role Playing System" you tailor any kind of custom campaign from easily modifiable "generic" items/enemies/skills/feats. you could reverse engineer any other game system, OR easily add aspects of other games into an existing one... like halflings ON flying carpets BATTLING MECHS... pew-pew-whoosh-grumble-ewww second lunch... light foot your way up a mech, and lock pick your way into a battlemaster so you can stab the pilot in the face xD screw "death from above" FEAR the death already creeping inside your goofy egg-shaped head, you big heap of gorgeous recyclable scraps... only to hear an army fremim chant "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, SHAAAAAAAI-HULUUUUUUUUD!" as a great Sandworm swallows and runs off with your spoils of war, but then superman swoops down and uppercuts the worm, causing it to barf up the battlemaster - it lands on your dropship, killing your party and ending your campaign T.T the GURPS struggle is real 8]
@fuski23
@fuski23 7 жыл бұрын
14:58 "i'm going to whoop your ass" lol that gets a like
@OctopusGrift
@OctopusGrift 7 жыл бұрын
I would say know the rules as well as the average player. Often you will have players who deep dive into the rules you don't need to out rules them. In fact asking them if they know a ruling is often a good way to get reminders when you aren't sure about something obscure.
@SapphireCrook
@SapphireCrook 7 жыл бұрын
I think you should follow the same standard as the requirements for domain knowledge for an official research project: Enough that you don't look like a fool at a birthday party while chatting to an expert in that domain. Simply put: Know your basics, know the general layout of the rules in the book, know the terms so you can master the index for looking stuff up, and whatever extra you know from there is gravy.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you only need one person at the table to know the rules well - if it's the GM, then that's great, but it's more important for the GM to be good at managing the game than for them to know all the details of the rules. Of course, it assumes that the rules-monkey is more interested in getting the rules right than in munchkining their way to victory - the guy who argued his way out of the trap definitely isn't a good resource for this sort of thing! The same thing applies to a lot of the GM tasks - the GM's most crucial role is to present the adventure. If players are better at tracking rules, or scheduling sessions or defusing interpersonal issues, or world-building, or whatever, then it's fine to let them take point on those things. The GM's the obvious person to have responsibility for making sure these things are taken care of, but delegation is a perfectly good way to do that.
@maxevans9995
@maxevans9995 7 жыл бұрын
In my first campaign I ever ran (5e), I wiped the party on the last planned session. They loved the ending, because of the way I executed it. So fellow GMs, if it's the last session of a campaign you could finish it in them all living healthy lives, or dying in a blaze of glory. The party consisted of a Druid, Rogue, Ranger, Bloodhunter (Matt Mercer's) and a mimic... Yes a friendly mimic... Anyway their original mission was to raid an orc camp and as they walked in there were maybe 4 - 5 orcs, halfway through killing those more noticed, and I slowly ramped up the amount they came. The players really loved this as it let all of their characters shine as they ended stood on a HILL of bodies (It was a big camp) and as they all dropped one by one, not one of the players even mentioned running away. They all died, The mimic was shattered across the ground, the druid - Decapitated, the ranger - Sacrificed himself to rugby tackle the chieftain into a pit of spikes, The rogue - Beat to death by an orc with bear fists, and finally the bloodhunter - Died by execution, as he was dragged aside he took a moment to notice all the friendly bodies on the floor. Since then I've ran several campaigns but none of the players liked the endings when their characters lived more than the one where they all died, back to back and fighting. So for any new GMs or experienced ones, try this out IF it's the last session of that campaign for definite and none of the players and thinking about using the characters in later campaigns. If you've ever done this please give me feedback on how it went for you, or if it just completely failed and my players are just straight up weird.
@marukouga135
@marukouga135 6 жыл бұрын
Max Evans I'm not going to lie. That sort of ending sounds absolutely amazing.
@benvoliothefirst
@benvoliothefirst 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. RPGs should be about doing things you can't in real life. Going out in a blaze of glory sounds absolutely epic.
@The_Kentuckian
@The_Kentuckian 8 ай бұрын
"Giant robotssss." "I'm gonna whoop your ass."
@joshyneurotic8589
@joshyneurotic8589 4 жыл бұрын
one of my players showed me your vids a while ago. i started DMing pathfinder in 2019 after playing DnD on and off for 20+ years. quite helpful. thanks for all the advice and perspective.
@milkshaketurtle7937
@milkshaketurtle7937 5 жыл бұрын
God, I can't stand rules lawyers. I remember playing as a druid. Everyone else had been captured, but since I'd transformed into a flea, nobody had seen me. Dm was making me do normal stealth rolls for EVERY SINGLE enemy I went past, and I got spotted crawling past a guard in a dark dungeon just because the rules said so. Dm even said "it doesn't make sense, but that's the rules."
@AttilaVoices
@AttilaVoices 3 жыл бұрын
That GM just wanted to bust you lol neglected the fiction. So dumb. I am paying attention to every flea hopping around too throughout the day!
@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109
@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 6 жыл бұрын
Once again, just found this channel, love your videos. For #6, while the GM should totally know the main rules of the game, by experience it is not mandatory for the GM to be the one who knows the rules the best. See, I'm not a math-head, I'm a storyteller. My friends often want me to DM because I am good at creating an interesting story. My friends, however, ARE math-heads. So they often know the rules better than I do. And this actually works to our advantage - I know the rules well enough to build a good adventure, and whenever we encoumter some corner case, one or two of my more rule-savvy players just pipe in and give us the rule we need. I think of it this way: I'm the ship captain. I need to know how my ship works. However, if there is an engine problem, I can count on my engineer to take care of it and can focus on all the other things happening on my ship. Of course, not all play groups are comfortable with this.
@tomcheairs3131
@tomcheairs3131 7 жыл бұрын
pfft, this doesn't apply to me. I'm the perfect GM. Who's ready to switch from d&d to Polaris?
@seb24789
@seb24789 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody! Thats the problem! You think i ever find players for Battle Centruy? It´s always D&D or maybe Warhammer....
@tomcheairs3131
@tomcheairs3131 7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Abele Funny thing. I just got my group to agree to it yesterday
@anthonyteasley3837
@anthonyteasley3837 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone wanna switch from Polaris to nobilis? I found it in a random store I won't tell you where it is!
@tomcheairs3131
@tomcheairs3131 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Teasley No no no noooo, I've seen the puffin forest. I know what it's about.
@seb24789
@seb24789 7 жыл бұрын
Was that the game with the edgelord death god who is sooooo EVIL!1!!eleven that he doesn´t even have to try to be EVIL!!1! ?
@thejellyman551
@thejellyman551 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just found your channel. These videos are pure gold! My one bit of advice for scheduling is to pick a day of the week and pick a time, and say that's when you're running your game. For example, say that you are always playing on Tuesdays at 7pm. Obviously be open to input from your players, but once you all decide on a time to play keep it consistent. That consistency helps keep people engaged and excited for each session.
@simplycifer
@simplycifer Жыл бұрын
I've definitely had the issue with the commitment one since I started. I've always been one to find and look at all the different TTRPGs I can find, so when I was younger, I was always suggesting new games to play with my friends. Even now, because I've been watching your CoC videos, I'm dying to put my long-term D&D campaign on hold for a one-shot. Just a one shot, I swear.
@anidiotplayslivestream5206
@anidiotplayslivestream5206 4 жыл бұрын
Been DMing less than a year - your videos are among the many resources I've been using to make sure I don't completely ruin everything for my players. Thank you!
@TheClayHarrison
@TheClayHarrison 7 жыл бұрын
I guess I commit the sin of "commitment issues" too, but I think its unavoidable. When you run the same game every week for years, you get really burnt out on it as a GM and end up wanting to try other things. Burnout happens a lot slower for players because they don't have to do as much work to run it, but for a GM when you're bashing your head against the same rules, same world, same story so much and so often you end up needing something fresh.
@Siegmernes
@Siegmernes 6 жыл бұрын
Clay Harrison We have a nice way around that. We have 2 campaigns or systems at the same time and switch them each session. That makes it kinda easier to not get burnt out ^^
@sebastiananderson1983
@sebastiananderson1983 7 жыл бұрын
LOL, the commitment one is totally me and it's gotten to the point where my players keep bringing me back in to finish my current game. I've learned to adjust to my players and their wants, so now we have no problems. Thanks for the vids!
@Richterdgf
@Richterdgf 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your tabletop RPG videos. I especially like videos in the “Do’s and Don’ts” category, as I can ask myself “do I do that” as part of my efforts to constantly improve as a player. I’ve had a seat at a VERY good table for a few years now, and I’m fully aware of how fortunate I am to be a part of the group. Videos like yours help me to improve and be a better player.
@arjunchoong8012
@arjunchoong8012 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the skits, and how the map on the whiteboard changes with each campaign. LOL.
@justinguyer8977
@justinguyer8977 4 жыл бұрын
I have a couple more that may have been covered in other videos, I don't recall at the moment. One, is the GM forgetting where the last session left off or events that happened. Sometimes some times passes between sessions. A simple notepad will fix this. The other is lack of preparation on the GM's part. My group and I are playing are currently playing an extensive 2E Forgotten Realms campaign. For each chapter of the campaign, I try to have so much material ready the the PCs will probably see about 2/3 of it at best. This does make more work for the GM away from the table, but no matter what crazy things the players do that surprise me, I more than likely have something already prepared that I can just toss in. Also, it seems that it adds depth to the game world for the players when they know that there is more there than they will ever see. Keep up the good work Seth! My players and I yell "For Thor!" at each other when we see each other in the real world. Lol
@grkrage85
@grkrage85 7 жыл бұрын
so im a gming a game for the first time and ur channel has been a wealth of information. keep up the awesome work and thanks for the tips.
@davegreenlaw5654
@davegreenlaw5654 5 жыл бұрын
As to that last one, I have something of a flip to it. My one friend that I've played with for over 20 years - he's in my current Dragon Heist game at my local gaming store - has always had something of a low self-esteem problem. About 15 years ago, when he was running his Buffyverse game, if one of his players called him to cancel (and it was almost always the same player) he would then panic and call up all the other players to make sure they would be showing up. I was constantly telling him "Look, if he can't make it he can't make it, no big deal.", but I got the impression that if someone canceled on him, then he took that as a commentary on him as a GM. Also, as to your comments on keeping track of modifiers. That was the same game where I finally suggested to him that I handle the modifiers to help keep the game running along. So once combat started, I took the one half of the GURPS GM screen with the modifiers, and would just have each player call out what they're using, how they're using it, and what specific location if any.
@mr.makepeace3465
@mr.makepeace3465 6 жыл бұрын
Even though I already know some of this stuff, I most enjoy your skits, so that's definitely something to watch this for.
@johanvink2337
@johanvink2337 6 жыл бұрын
Scheduling issues are not always as one-sided. For the first session, this is most often the case. But on subsequent sessions when they are burned out/life gets in the way nagging your friends for "when do you guys have the time to play?" gets boring quick as well as annoying and at some point, you just say "Message me/send a message in the group chat when you want to play?"
@juddgoswick2024
@juddgoswick2024 4 жыл бұрын
I suffer from the waning enthusiasm issue, but I basically now run limited campaigns that have a given story arc and then onto the next thing.
@Caitlin_TheGreat
@Caitlin_TheGreat 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when it comes to "knowing the rules" I think that unless you're playing an extremely light system, what you want to do is get the feel for the _structure_ of the rules. You don't need to know every rule if you wind up figuring out how the rules typically function and how mechanics are typically implemented. Once you've got that, it becomes pretty easy to make rulings on-the-spot. And at times, you'll end up with the actual rule that's in the book -- if you double check later, after the session ends. But to keep that level of understanding, you have to play that system at least somewhat regularly. I used to know _new_ World of Darkness that well, but after a 7 year break, I've discovered that I need to get the feel for it again. But I'm at that spot right now with 5E, though in that system I actually am more okay with a little bit of "looseness" in some rulings than the base rules like to allow, provided it follows the spirit of the game and keeps things flowing without much turbulence. Better than grinding things to a halt for 5 or 10 minutes to find out the specific rule, because that almost always winds up be super anti-climatic and someone says "we should've just stuck with what was suggested at first."
@mr.pavone9719
@mr.pavone9719 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being DM for what was probably my first game of D&D at the age of 9, maybe 10. My friend tried to open a door and failed the roll. And that was the end of the game. It never dawned on me that the player could keep trying, which took time and made noise, or to play out the possibilities. Nope. He failed the roll and the game was over.
@Baba-wr2kw
@Baba-wr2kw 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite DND youtubers
@Kain5th
@Kain5th 7 жыл бұрын
Do you think players are more forgiving about a gm not knowing some of the rules if he is a new gm? I am a new gm and even though i have played many games as a player before I know im going to forget some, maybe even fundamental rules especially when it comes to combat. What are your thoughts on that?
@SSkorkowsky
@SSkorkowsky 7 жыл бұрын
They should be. Learning the rules and process of running a game is a definite curve. When ever we change to a new rules-system we always spend the first 3 games or so being cautious with rules, sometime double-checking just to be sure we're all doing it right while committing it to memory. As long as the GM is making a sincere effort to learn to rules, especially between games, then the players should be forgiving while they're getting used to it. Having players that are more experienced than you can be intimidating, and i remember when I first ran my original GM and he was very patient with me and offered advice/feedback after the session was done (He'd been playing for 10+ years and I was an awkward teen). If they're experienced and good players, then they'll help you out as you learn the ropes.
@alexy7207
@alexy7207 7 жыл бұрын
Doug E absolutely they should be lenient. If anything, your players should helps you out with the rules. My dm asks for a clarification on a rule from us all the time because it’s near impossible to remember everything and how all the rules interact with each other. At any rate, the story is more important than the rules.
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 7 жыл бұрын
If you watched Seth's videos about bad PCs, you should also look out for the odd PC who might try to take advantage of the fact that you don't know the rules very well. I've seen players not only lie about rules from one game to the next, but actually contradict their own lie to suit their needs: they said the rule worked one way in one game and then claimed the rule was completely different in the next game (in order to gain an advantage). Also, players are people and people are lazy... I've seen a player tell the GM that they "think" the rule works a specific way (because no one feels like looking it up right away, or they wanted to keep the game moving) only to find out later (when they finally did look it up) that it doesn't work anywhere close to how they thought it did.
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa 7 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between not knowing the rules due to inexperience and not knowing the rules due to laziness. So long as you can improvise a little bit to fill in the gaps, you'll be fine. =)
@guntisveiskats6053
@guntisveiskats6053 7 жыл бұрын
There may be difference if players see the GM advancing in rules lore. I have a personal issue with that, because I have hard time memorizing all the stuff - especially with the crunchy games. Even Dungeon World is not easy for me. Y'know, I got to know tabletop RPGs (contrary to most folks) at the age of half-century. Learn some stuff... just to have it forgotten a week later. Thus I love rules-light games.
@TVlord5
@TVlord5 7 жыл бұрын
Yknow the first time I saw those skits I thought they were a little cringey...but damn I've come to love them! I think the fact that it's the same characters adds a lot of charm and it gives a great example of what you're talking about, not just from some hypothetical other people but from this group we've seen that sometimes does good and sometimes does bad. I love it!
@tinkerer3399
@tinkerer3399 7 жыл бұрын
I love the bro player having a valid and viable plan.
@SneakyNinjaDog
@SneakyNinjaDog 2 жыл бұрын
The opposite of the GM constantly shifting into new campaigns are the players that NEVER want to play anything BUT classic straight Forgotten Realms D&D. They will not even consider Dark Sun, Eberron let alone different systems like Cthulhu og Traveller.
@ataraxic89
@ataraxic89 7 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel Seth. Subscribed. Great advice. I enjoy your acting scenes and your humility and the fact you dont jump to calling people who do these things bad or stupid. Several other youtube DMs are much more harsh, as are most RPG players.
@guntisveiskats6053
@guntisveiskats6053 7 жыл бұрын
Right. I like RPGs used for social improvement, in contrast to an excuse for consuming beer together. :)
@SquirrelGamez
@SquirrelGamez 7 жыл бұрын
Again with the awesome t-shirt :P Gonna say one thing about #5 though. I've had this group of players who NEVER had any sort of regular avilabilities, and I asked them every week "how about this daay and time?" and after 3 times when it didn'T work out I was like "you know what, just tell me when you're free" Never heard from the players. Two months later I'm like "so, how about that game?" Players be like "Yeah no, we got into another game cause you're not scheduling." Me "fuck you, I'm never running a game for you again" .I mean I fucking tried. >.
@SSkorkowsky
@SSkorkowsky 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. That sucks. We can only play once a month, so we schedule them about a month out as to what day has the most availability. Full games are rare. We always seem to be missing one player, but the plan is that if we can schedule 2+ the GM the game is on. I've found that player availability suddenly increases when its approached as, "OK, after talking to everyone, we're definitely playing on X day" Then someone who was all "Oh I can't do that day," changes to "Oh...let me try to move some stuff so I can play with you guys, too" On a side note, the player that can't make a session is always the one with the PC that I was really hoping for. It's weird, but if I go, "Damn, X character will be perfect for this scenario. They're going to LOVE it," there's now a 83% chance that player will have a last-second need to skip the game. I might need an exorcist for this because my curse has caused friends to get sick, or their kids get sick, or their work to go insane, or any other host of plagues I've accidentally unleashed on my friends.
@etherealworrier
@etherealworrier 5 жыл бұрын
The last two are definitely my main GM sins, often overlapping. The main coping strategy I've found for both is one shots, especially those with a strong theme.
@lemoinegras458
@lemoinegras458 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sharing my GM story. I am new being a GM and i made a Cthulhu one shot a while back. The thing is, i didn't prepare anything, i had a vague picture of what to do but nothing else... and i was conscious it was a bad move. i've seen the game master sins videos but... it went great ! I'm not saying it was the right thing to do ! Not at all ! but my players loved it... i still don't believe it. But apparently they did. I will be making a campaign for them. i will plan it from now on of course... the thing is i thought it was not that bad... (i had to improvise like crazy but i did it). I still apologized to my players about that but they didn't mind. i've been lucky. Extremely so ! Still i want to thank you Seth. you motivated me to become a GM and it's a wonderful feeling ! i'm forever grateful for that. You rock dude !
@rottenapplegaming3008
@rottenapplegaming3008 7 жыл бұрын
A another great video man keep them coming. number 7 is the one mistake most beginner GMs make for sure.
@dartfast
@dartfast 7 жыл бұрын
Great video again. As a quite greenhorn GM myself I've found your content to be really helpful and reassuring. The first point about being too rigid about the rules is something I definitely worry about myself. We play Warhammer Fantasy 2nd Edition. Today during the session I had a player start up a tavern fight that caught me really out of the blue and he really wants to do specific actions in combat that don't really translate well to the rules themselves. "I want to grab his leg as he's kicking me and cut his hamstring with my dagger" is fun and descriptive combat but I struggle with what to allow and what I should try and rein in. The game mechanics for the combat allow for a lot of these actions but they're often quite specific instances and balanced out into things like feats and talents that you acquire as you get stronger. But if somebody wants to, say, disarm an opponent with a flourish I don't know whether to tell them they can't since it's a talent they don't have or allow it thus removing the point of having the talent system in place or to allow it with a penalty?
@fastsniperfox6250
@fastsniperfox6250 7 жыл бұрын
Never clicked a video so fast
@raptorjesues1445
@raptorjesues1445 7 жыл бұрын
ikr
@madcinder257
@madcinder257 7 жыл бұрын
I mean, I have clicked a video faster, but... only a couple videos. And mainly cause my computer wasn't loading properly so it took extra time... *sigh*
@idavisband
@idavisband 7 жыл бұрын
FastSniperfox same
@thedragonreborn9856
@thedragonreborn9856 6 жыл бұрын
#2. To be clear I haven’t committed this particular sin but in the examples of player deaths it reminded me of a challenge I threw at one of my players while he was solo. Now this was meant to be a minor challenge and he almost died, it follows thusly. He was looking for a safe place to bed down for the night and spotted a hollow in a tree but didn’t look to see if it was safe, so he goes to sleep only to be awakened by a tiny cute looking sugar glider possum thing (it was kinda also a spider 🕷) that was reaching out to touch him (its poison “fangs” were in its fingers) so as he seats it away he ends up getting scratched and poisoned by the hidden “fangs” at which point the “cute” thing stopped being cute revealed some of its hidden ugliness and fled. The player at this point decided to go back to sleep even with hints that it might not be safe to do so only to awake later paralysed by the poison and trussed in spider silk and vines anchored to a different part of the hollow tree and the tree itself was sucking his lifeforce (the spider sugar gliders were symbiotic with the tree and ate the blood and flesh once the victim died) and thus proceeded the most epic series of critical fails I have ever seen. He ended up poisoned, drained until almost dead, impaled and bleeding out and only a last minute save to take a medical pill saved him. Had he failed that last roll he would have died (I was being very generous at this point by giving him this roll and he should have by all rights died 3 rolls ago)
@ronin7997
@ronin7997 7 жыл бұрын
Been following your videos recently, which helped me get out of my DM funk and hiatus from 4th Edition (ugh). Your advice and insights for running games has inspired me to get back into the DM groove with 5th Edition. Loving Dungeons and Dragons again, so much I'm running 2 separate groups now XD.
@morganbillings7498
@morganbillings7498 7 жыл бұрын
Every prospective game master should watch your channel.
@jcmartin1978
@jcmartin1978 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid and so on point!!! Commitment issues on my part drives my players crazy.
@danielmcgillis270
@danielmcgillis270 7 жыл бұрын
The greatist joy of a real DM is to sit quietly on the side and listen tonthe players recount the adventure in boisterous tones and laugh and kid. You know they had a fun time. And you did as well because your players have been chalenged, have overcome that chalenge and been rewarded with some cool loot afterward. The best DMs let the players run the story.
@hammond1994
@hammond1994 6 жыл бұрын
I used to always imagine I was an invisible "silent partner" in the players group. I could look at things from that point of view to keep both players and myself in check.
@MarkersandMonsters
@MarkersandMonsters 7 жыл бұрын
Great video - I have probably done all of these at least once in my DM tenure. Keep 'em coming Seth!
@ragnarrok257
@ragnarrok257 7 жыл бұрын
I like your content and I really enjoy the different player and DM tropes you role play in the videos. Great stuff man!
@TrackerRoo
@TrackerRoo 7 жыл бұрын
Had a DM that was running a module, but instead of just doing the module he added a bunch of monsters. It went from being a challenge to having one combat encounter, us heading back to town to rest up, returning to the stronghold only to have another single encounter that trip in almost the same exact place. We made no progress and the DM ended up losing interest before the next session.
@AlluMan96
@AlluMan96 6 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that my first job as a DM ended in a bit of a tragedy. I had this really awesome idea for a campaign about sky-pirates sailing between floating islands, collecting treasures and getting into trouble with the law and a number of different pirate captains. I got 5 people in, everyone was making these awesome characters that I was looking forward to exploring as I built adventures around their specific backstories and best of all, my players actually enjoyed the first session, blemishes and all. However, after just that 1 session, I realized I couldn't do it. While the social contract is something you swear an oath to, I went ahead and made it a pact of blood. The idea of being responsible for so much of the players' enjoyment just kinda weighed over me, creeping into my mind. I knew I had tendencies towards perfectionism with things that I have a passion for, but this was the first time I was losing sleep over how much I feared not living up to standards. I thought it was just being nervous about session 1 and that it'd get lifted after that, but nope. After a night of contemplating on it, I had to cut my losses, apologize for getting everyone excited and admit that all of that wasn't worth the headache. From that one session though, I can say that my greatest weakness was being a pushover. Granted, I managed to down one of my party members from max health within 1 turn-cycle, but I over-compensated on the patch-up with reinforcements and help when they got even the least bit impatient. I also realized that had I continued, that would probably have become a recurring thing.
@Intelligence3
@Intelligence3 5 жыл бұрын
Dang now I want to play Mechwarrior again.
@AttilaVoices
@AttilaVoices 3 жыл бұрын
14:32 he was so annoyed he exhaled his beard off in frustration!
@zyxaqc
@zyxaqc Жыл бұрын
A tip I got from a more experienced Game Master when it comes to referencing the rule book is to abuse the crap out of color-coded sticky notes/bookmarks. If you're still learning the rules and need to quickly reference back to something specific, marking it with a special color will help you flip open the page, look at what you need, and then jump back into the game.
@thegameoverclub
@thegameoverclub 7 жыл бұрын
Mustache Seth is the best! great video loved the skit about the revolving games that was fantastic Seth :)
@kzual1
@kzual1 5 жыл бұрын
trick for game scheduling: use Doodle. it's an shared online calendar that allows every participant to indicate their availability. once done, everyone has an easy and quick visual representation of which date would have everyone free and available. I did not know I badly needed this in my life until I knew about it.
@Finkeldinken
@Finkeldinken 6 жыл бұрын
I scheduled the first game in my campaign - since then, one of the players has taken it upon themself to run scheduling. Works great, and it's another load off my back.
@lockwoan01
@lockwoan01 5 жыл бұрын
The driving example's a funny one. Personally, I can't drive - keep failing that Test for one reason or another - but I know enough to turn the car on, shift it to Drive, and step on the gas. Of course, my uncles don't want me to drive their trucks - although in my defense, the silly thing was in reverse - almost hit another vehicle and the garage the one time I tried one of theirs. As for my brothers - they don't share with me too well. Still, I've driven a farm tractor a little!
@felipeuseche332
@felipeuseche332 3 жыл бұрын
Damnd. I felt soo called out with the second to last one. I'm always getting hyped wit the next game...
@PossumMedic
@PossumMedic 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao definitely guilty of #2!!! xD I also really feel #1! I have no problem planning and running the sessions but if scheduling is going to be a battle it's just not worth it for me! Thanks for the great tips! :D
@RobertGunn
@RobertGunn 5 жыл бұрын
Dang. I felt called out on the not scheduling thing! Lol! I had 2 internships over the summer and was only able to run 1 session. I am away at college now so I'll have to get on top of it when I go back home!
@jaymudie6761
@jaymudie6761 7 жыл бұрын
Subbed. I like your content and how you present it.
@DarrylCross
@DarrylCross 7 жыл бұрын
For a Combo bonus: Run a campaign til they reach mid-level before going for the TPK. "That's too bad! But on the bright side, I just got this brand new game we can try out next time that looks super fun!"
@swytchblayd
@swytchblayd Жыл бұрын
Idea for helping to mitigate #2: Run a one-off. If the GM is feeling bored with the current campaign, they should ask if the players want to run a single session for a different setting or game in the near future. That can give both the players and the GM a change of pace, leaving them ready to continue the campaign, or determine if players want to continue with the one-off's setting/system instead. Can work especially well if there is a temporary scheduling conflict; the player(s) that show up have something to do that doesn't interfere with the main game, and the absent players miss nothing in the main campaign.
@michaelmogar5213
@michaelmogar5213 5 жыл бұрын
"shhhhh, I'm lying". That was the best.
@fl1bble
@fl1bble Жыл бұрын
I'm about to start running an Alien RPG game with a group of friends, I've never played a TTRPG before and these videos have been very helpful.
@SSkorkowsky
@SSkorkowsky Жыл бұрын
Best of luck with the game.
@dashboots376
@dashboots376 4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely 100% guilty of not scheduling, I'll admit that part of it is because I'm never enthusiastic about anything until the moment I start and I spend most days prepping to run my session while at the same time dreading it, feeling like it's going to be a disaster and at the last minute (An hour before the session) I just send a message to everyone to ask them if they are coming, if they are we move on and most days we end up having a really good time and it works out, sometimes it doesn't because I don't think I'm a particularly good GM, especially since despite extensive prep I'm very likely to just improvise instead disregarding all I had prepared and that definitely doesn't work 100% of the time, and there are times it's pretty noticeable that I'm making it all up as I go along while some other times it isn't. Like for example I spent months planning this murder-mystery CoC campaign that was about investigating the death of a loved one, and the day of the session I happened to read an article of a terrorist attack that happened on the 1920s and was never solved and I decided it was going to be about that instead, however I was at work and had 0 time to prepare as the session started about an hour after getting back to work, so instead of doing the reasonable thing which was using what I already had prepared and finding a way to link it to that event at a later session (Would have worked since it was in the same city anyway), I just started there, on the event making everything up as I went along and getting a lot of shit wrong because I didn't have time to do all that much research other that what I was able to google at lunch break and while going on my ride. I mean we had fun but that was definitely poorly handled on my end, that being said running a game that is not D&D is so much more my style, it comes much more naturally and is way more enjoyable to me, it's a shame that most of the people I play with aren't willing to try new systems since I've realised that I don't particularly care for D&D, but I'm very much guilty of having a wandering eye, I'm already trying to convince people of playing a Cyberpunk homebrew campaign and we've just started CoC around 2 Months ago, which is unfortunately on hold due to the COVID-19 thing but nothing can be done about that.
@quaz_zee
@quaz_zee 5 жыл бұрын
I just started a new group with some friends after the previous one got put on hiatus due to a player moving out of state and another buying her first house an hour away. We did our session 0 and then scheduled our first session. Two of the four players bailed less than two hours before that session with...reasonable excuses. Now it’s been over a month and I haven’t bothered scheduling the next session. Don’t let pride stop you from having fun even if you do as much prep as I did, which was about 12 hours on Curse of Strahd. As disappointed as I was, I feel like scheduling our sessions now and hope they don’t half ass it. If I do my part, it’s on them to meet me somewhere halfway, right? Lesson: don’t give up AND GMs schedule your sessions.
@nickdalton8850
@nickdalton8850 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a new GM (dnd5e) having only begun my first campaign, and played 6 meet ups for it(36hours), in reference to the sin on changing campaigns to regularly I adopted a way around it to keep the same campaign running and allowing for style switch ups as we play. Allowing myself the GM and the players to not get bored of the same old same ol. I began building a world around a pirating/maritime adventure depending on the alignment the players chose to pursue and then the ghosts of salt marsh content was released which I got and adapted and am loving. However I have my players a ship via beating a intro big baddy and my way for changing up rules, play styles and so on is I let the lore for the world be that as they adventure on the high seas they may find their way through planar portals or dimensional rifts or even secret lands and when they enter I can use the worlds magiks to for example say all form into goblin versions of themselves where I make them roll new PCs based on their current pc and run a few rounds or a one shot that way. Another way I can implement it is say I decide to pick up pathfinder or sci-fi tabletop or anything really I can make the players take on temporary new identies which I provide the ruling around and when the adventure closes the xp gained and story they experienced is transferred back into the original dnd 5e campaign and items found may or may not translocate with them depending on the adventure. Also it allows for players to swap out GMs on occasion so I can take the role of a player and let my players explore their more creative sides in creating instead of just reacting and adapting to my imagination. It was my way of creating a scenario in which the world is truly endless and can always be adapted too. Of course it will eventually come to a close but I built for long term play and it’s working really well so far. Without much play experience previously only played dnd 4e back in high school maybe twice I listened to countless hours of live play podcasts, TAZ, CR and others. For other new GMs I’d say listening or watching live play is the best prep you can have outside of actually playing for picking up the reins as GM.
@rubixman7x7
@rubixman7x7 6 жыл бұрын
I've had troubles with scheduling games but not from lack of effort. There were a lot of times when I've asked quite a few friends who were interested when they were available, figured out the only day that a minimum number of players could get together, and then have them be unavailable at different intervals. At the time, that was probably just the people and how everyone was in college, but I've still had troubles with that.
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