am amazed how these steam trains can be kept in such immaculate condition after all these years. It goes to show how much dedication is put into it. Congratulations to all involved.
@mickcarson85044 жыл бұрын
Yep. And then they destroy them from overloading the old girls to the bones.
@hornbytrainsets4 жыл бұрын
@@mickcarson8504 Yeah but their jobs were a lot more demanding when they were in revenue service. These heritage runs are probably nothing, all slow and sedate
@cr100013 жыл бұрын
@@mickcarson8504 That's not overload, it's lack of adhesion. Everything slips at that spot.
@michaelwebber86313 жыл бұрын
I was at Bridgnorth a few weeks ago where the drivers seemed to have the drain cocks open forever. So much so one couldn't see the engine leave the station, there was just a huge cloud of steam. The railway tracks are completely dripping with cylinder oil. I was always taught to open them, then shut them. Open for too long & the lubricating cylinder oil is jet washed out of the cylinders. Not good for lubrication, & certainly no good for traction on the rails.
@jennieanderson9714 жыл бұрын
I always loved trains when I was little... I listened to them chugging along in the night 🚂 They always had such a sad , yet comforting sound. It always amazed me at just how long I could hear them running on through the night ,still love that “train song “ in the night...🌜
@bigkiwimike5 жыл бұрын
She certainly stopped on dead centre. Sometimes even the best engines will do this. Look at the position of the driving wheels before she moved. Because the video stops too soon, we can’t see how big the train is, but the engine is not slipping excessively. The driver is just letting her walk out of the station at the speed she wants to.
@robertdblack71795 жыл бұрын
Thats fabulous control. I've seen Repton spin alot and in sectacular style too. Great filming too!
@philclarke32033 ай бұрын
Thanks
@markturner42195 жыл бұрын
It is obvious that the driver has not been able to fully release the train brake for some reason. I have watched Repton's class mate Cheltenham here on the Watercress line pull away smoothly and accelerate quickly on an uphill gradient without a hint of slipping pretty much every time. These loco's were Europe's most powerful 4-4-0's and the only UK 4-4-0 class with a class 5 power classification.
@dankerthanclanker4 жыл бұрын
There's also an incline on the way out of Bridgnorth, too.
@iankemp11313 жыл бұрын
@@dankerthanclanker Watercress line is 1 in 80 and 1 in 60!
@cr100013 жыл бұрын
This particular spot seems to be extremely slippery, just search 'Bridgnorth - slipping'. There are videos of West Countries, and a King, slipping on starting here, and a Manor slipping its way all round the yard.
@pjd73256 ай бұрын
The climb out of Bridgnorth station is 1in100. The situation was the locomotive had stuck in top dead centre. To correct it the driver set back slightly then carried on. Damp rails caused by the steam from the drain cocks made it a slippery departure. Sanders were turned on and it gained traction.
@nigelterry92996 жыл бұрын
Looks like the driver has found the dead spot. Only solution is to back up and have another go. The track is always oily here and the Schools is enormously powerful for a 4-4-0. Look how she strides away on clean rails.
@CullenRick3 жыл бұрын
Good skills from that driver. Proper control of a light loco and heavy train.
@rogercantwell36225 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good piece of driving. It's one of the hardest engines to start. Factor of adhesion below 4, so struggles on anything other than a clean dry rail.
@richarddavis77785 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about steam locomotives but that seems to be a very credible expert opinion. Contrast it with a singularly nasty comment by an earlier reviewer who is presumably an armchair expert. It seems to me that enthusiasts devote many hours to restoring and operating these beautiful machines for our pleasure and deserve our unqualified respect and gratitude.
@984francis5 жыл бұрын
@@richarddavis7778 YES! Well said that man.
@markturner42195 жыл бұрын
Richard Davis I am afraid your confidence is misplaced. Mr Cantwell's comment is bollocks. The reason why the loco is struggling to start is that the train brakes are binding having not been fully released by the vacuum brake apparatus. These locos were very sure footed and designed specifically to work on the steeply graded Hastings line. They were the only 4-4-0's to have a class 5 power rating.
@Rosie68575 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with Roger Cantwell's remarks - they are true and appropriate. You say the brakes are binding but there is no evidence of that whatsoever. The reason the loco appeared unable to move was because the visible crank was nearly on rear dead centre. If you look carefully you will see that it is just *behind* dead centre yet steam is issuing from the leaky rear cylinder gland showing that the regulator is open but the force is actually opposing forward motion. This is due to the "lead" on the valves whereby the inlet opens a little before dead centre to provide a cushioning effect when running. All that is necessary to do is to set back a short distance and have another go, which is what the driver eventually did. This sort of thing seems more of a problem with 3-cyl locos than with 2-cyl ones, strangely, and has happened many time both in preservation and in the steam era. The slipping is another matter entirely and these are slippy engines with only 42 tons on the driving wheels out of a total of 67 tons. You have to be delicate with the regulator - you can't just yank it full open from the off as I have seen with lesser 4-4-0's (L, D1, E1) on the Oxted line.
@iankemp11313 жыл бұрын
@@Rosie6857 Fair points, yet the Schools never had a reputation for slipping when they handled 12 coaches on the Bournemouth Belle, expresses over the hilly Portsmouth and Hastings lines, or Kent Coast expresses in their later years where Bricklayers Arms drivers often preferred them to Bulleid Pacifics. A 4-4-0, having no trailing axle, should still be quite surefooted on starting.
@Kolomna5D496 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a bit unfortunate needing to back up a little, but the wheel slip seems controlled - no violent lurching. Bridgnorth is often tricky to get away from.
@richierex5 жыл бұрын
he didnt use the sanders until 3 minutes. Schools Class worked brilliantly at NYMR and its twisty and hilly, the last place they were designed for
@nigelmitchell3515 жыл бұрын
A beautiful engine, the aesthetics of which are spoilt only by its modified tender. In my humble opinion.
@edwinholland61495 жыл бұрын
No struggle dead centre, hence setting back then nicely controlled start. Schools were light footed due to their relatively low axle loadings but very powerful for their size and great performers once rolling.
@47606odin5 жыл бұрын
how do you get stuck in 'dead centre' on a 3 cylinder loco?
@markturner42195 жыл бұрын
Schools class has a very high axle loading. Higher than all the GWR 4-6-0's except the Kings, and massively higher than the BB/WC pacifics. It is obvious that the driver has not been able to fully release the train brake for some reason. I have watched Repton's class mate Cheltenham here on the Watercress line pull away smoothly and accelerate quickly on an uphill gradient without a hint of slipping pretty much every time. These loco's were Europe's most powerful 4-4-0's and the only UK 4-4-0 class with a class 5 power classification.
@chrisberry10745 жыл бұрын
Was there myself and really enjoyed the event. Excellent video
@philclarke32034 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris
@Edyth_Hedd4 жыл бұрын
I know the engine crew thinks the slippage reflects badly on their skill, but it really is fun to watch. Such a pretty little locomotive!
@philclarke32034 жыл бұрын
Yes it is fun to watch and willing it on
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS5 жыл бұрын
No video of a 4-4-0 has ever made me this anxious before. Beautiful shot though!
@kellyashfordtrains26424 жыл бұрын
City of Truro struggled to get out of Bridgnorth in 1991, yet she moved straight away. Severn Valley Railway Magic is what I would call it.
@90050675 жыл бұрын
a beautiful loco in excellent shape
@nicko70544 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was there filming the same departure . I think maybe a glimpse of me around 3.17
@philclarke32034 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick
@geoffmoore44546 жыл бұрын
My late uncle drove that engine when he was at southern region
@PhilPage2275 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Phil, looking forward to seeing it at Bury.
@geoffmorris17695 жыл бұрын
Saw it this morning with City of Wells and Union of South Africa. Fantastic.
@IroncladInSteam40073 жыл бұрын
Lest we forget this is the most powerful 4-4-0 class in Britain and it’s still struggling
@HenrysAdventures18 күн бұрын
Great video Phil.
@philclarke320317 күн бұрын
@@HenrysAdventures thanks Henry 👍
@darekstar4 жыл бұрын
Edward: "Iv done it, were off! Iv done it, Were off!"
@philclarke32034 жыл бұрын
And so he did ,in the end
@ronrandall87835 жыл бұрын
It was fine once the driver found how to work the sanders.
@c27574 жыл бұрын
Severn Valley Railway. Phil Clarke, struggling to spell Bridgnorth ,23rd September 2017, (Sorry - couldn't resist).
@philclarke32034 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks, wish I had a pound for every time I have been corrected! It's one of those words I can never remember which is right spelling :-)
@Stefan_Boerjesson2 жыл бұрын
That driver knew the job as the wheel slip was really soft, controlled. Well done.
@philclarke32032 жыл бұрын
Definitely 👍
@jonsmith46695 жыл бұрын
Thats what I call a Choo Choo, clean lines, immaculate and powerful, a work of art.
@MaxxD863 жыл бұрын
That’s the same loco that went to the USA hence why it has a higher tender than the others. Love that wheel slip
@timratnett42435 жыл бұрын
It was not 926 struggling , it was the driver. The schools were built to work over the Hastings line. They had to start away from numerous steep locations.
@MK.51983 жыл бұрын
loathe to call that a struggle. Kept good control of it the whole time.
@Hugofreddie5 жыл бұрын
These engines were built for fast work on light lines . So were prone to slippage but once they got moving were amazing
@markturner42195 жыл бұрын
No they weren't They have one of the highest axle loadings in the history of UK steam. They were built as 4-4-0's due to short turntables on the Hastings route for which they originally designed. Bullied light pacifics were built for working light lines.
@Hugofreddie5 жыл бұрын
@@markturner4219 indeed perhaps I should have worded it as lines with restrictions as the hastings line which had a tight loading guage as well as short turntables hence the round topped firebox instead of the belplair planned.They were renowned from new as "needing careful handling when starting " (they slip)Eastleighs words not mine as with an axle load of 21 tonnes they were extremely powerful and were the only 4-4-0 to be rated to 5p
@charliemoir55917 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened 363 days earlier than this with flying Scotsman...
@steventhornton47165 жыл бұрын
Would the wheel slip not indicate that theres too much weight behind the loco I'm sure the Renton used to pull much shorter trains?!
@welsh_Witch4 жыл бұрын
@@steventhornton4716 no wheelsip is down to multiple factors like weather, loco condition and weight of the train
@steventhornton47164 жыл бұрын
But how did it explode like that over pressure in the boiler or something?
@vishwajitpawar40765 жыл бұрын
How much coal is required to overcome 1,10,100,1000miles? If diesel burner is provided to run steam engine, then how much diesel is required for same distance?pl inform. Thanks.
@tracynation2395 жыл бұрын
1 pound of coal + 1 gallon of water will move 1 ton of freight 1 mile.(Ton miles). ♡ T.E.N.
@Rosie68575 жыл бұрын
A typical figure for an express steam-era train is about 35 lb per mile though it could be more if the route is a bit mountainous or the coal is poor stuff. An oil-fired steam loco doesn't use diesel, it uses thick black bottom-of-the- barrel stuff sometimes known as Bunker oil. The amount used is about three-quarters of the weight of coal.
@paulnash76302 жыл бұрын
Repton looks in amazing condition Phil, got there eventually. .
@hornbytrainsets4 жыл бұрын
Why did it have to roll back at the beginning? I thought the crank pins were offset by ninety degrees to ensure that wouldn't be necessary?
@highdownmartin2 жыл бұрын
120 degrees
@haroldpearson60256 ай бұрын
Yes but it's still possible to have one crank on dead center and there will not be enough power to take it over DC. The driver will then "set back" taking up the free slack in the couplings.
@johndavies58265 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why it took the driver so long to realise he needed to use the sanders.
@ldb2815 жыл бұрын
not surprised with that load on, beginning to feel for the old girl.
@VulcanBomberxm6554 жыл бұрын
Theres a few videos of a few engines struggling out of Bridgenorth, i think it's a up hill on a bend departure, which is never good.
@tracynation2395 жыл бұрын
Premium Video, Great Loco. ♡ T.E.N.
@e-mananimates22745 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! An engine fit for Sodor! The livery and shape are not unlike Henry's!
@thestolenmhrproperty21023 жыл бұрын
Lazerjet fooled me!!!!!! 😡😡😡 It doesn't sound like breathing at all!!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@errolkim13345 жыл бұрын
Saw it in sheen the other night
@mikesanders54337 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks!
@smokey323234 жыл бұрын
Excellent throttle control!!!!!!!!
@ivortomana4 жыл бұрын
Very nice steam locomotive !
@will_levitt9263 жыл бұрын
I agree, Repton is a beauty
@johnjephcote76365 жыл бұрын
operate the sanders as you back the engine onto its train....
@SimonTog3 жыл бұрын
Very good Phil :)
@philclarke32033 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon
@terryhutchinson65033 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of driving that.
@andrewheale47387 жыл бұрын
Passengers had to many cream teas.
@markdullaghan8473 жыл бұрын
Would experienced drivers back in the day struggle like this ?
@robertwilloughby80503 жыл бұрын
It could catch out even experienced drivers - the Schools were fantastic machines, but slipping was their vice, even giants like Driver Hooker (more famous with his work with Merchant Navy and West Country/Battle of Britain pacifics) could be made to look foolish at times.
@sydneymartin69412 жыл бұрын
@@robertwilloughby8050 Hi Not the experienced drivers No They would make sure they operated the sand before stopping there so they would be standing on sand and thus prevent slipping
@andrewmedina5 жыл бұрын
*Severn not Seven!
@F1lbertf0x5 жыл бұрын
And there should be no 'E' in Bridgnorth either.
@TrainsBoatsPlanes5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@dvddale1115 жыл бұрын
Severn Valley, isn't it?
@will_levitt9263 жыл бұрын
Yup
@daro22625 жыл бұрын
Oil the tracks & a lot more steel to how much it will before the thing is on it's way to the moon. The crew can always jump ship before she goes up
@mattseymour86376 жыл бұрын
They are prone to slipping and light on their wheels. What was the reason though?
@1701_FyldeFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Crap driver that's all.
@jma79305 жыл бұрын
Due to the large driving wheels it means it does not have much weight on them meaning it slips easier
@richierex5 жыл бұрын
@@jma7930 it has the same weight on the wheels, no matter what the size. big wheels affect the "gearing"
@Rosie68575 жыл бұрын
They have only two driving axles with a combined weight of 42 tons on them which is rather low for a loco of their power. A 4-6-0 of the same power would have typically 56 tons so it would be less prone to slipping.
@richardgrant51055 жыл бұрын
Good driver, stop the maniac fireman putting more coal on , though !
@djmpvae270919785 жыл бұрын
A 4-4-0 is an American Wild West locomotive ( U.P.R.R. & C.P.R.R. )
@977chrisv4 жыл бұрын
@Tabourba THe wheel arrangement is called "American" like "Pacific"" Mikado " etc. Nothing to do with country of manufacture
@paullangford81795 жыл бұрын
Why aren't they using sand at the beginning? It seems to be OK later on.
@ScaniaVabis5805 жыл бұрын
It was stopped dead centre so starting off again was never going to be straightforward, he still should have used the sanders after he managed to roll it back
@47606odin5 жыл бұрын
@@ScaniaVabis580 you can't stop dead centre on a 3 cylinder loco
@ScaniaVabis5805 жыл бұрын
@@47606odin well it appears dead centre, two cylinders of which are pretty much useless... The third cylinder (not dead center) would not have been able to move the loco and train combined
@47606odin5 жыл бұрын
@@ScaniaVabis580 really? on a standard 3 cylinder loco such as this, with one piston at the limit of its stroke, the other 2 are still under power. the cylinders are 120 degrees apart, so always at least 2 cylinders pushing. the issue will be dead weight from a standing start combined with drag on the wheels due to curvature and gradient. squeeze the coaches together, then effectively lift one at a time which is what the driver did. he done an excellent job. could have just opened the regulator more and spun the wheels i suppose
@ScaniaVabis5805 жыл бұрын
@@47606odin i have known sir keith park and scotty do exactly the same as this, both are 3 cylinder Locomotives.
@de-de44015 жыл бұрын
Ale cudny parowóz!
@wernerdanler27423 жыл бұрын
Why is he venting all that steam before trying to get going?
@RobertdMacGregor Жыл бұрын
Cylinder Cocks, ejects condensed steam/water from the cylinders to prevent hydraulic damage to the cylinders
@haroldpearson60256 ай бұрын
@@RobertdMacGregor Also the driver can use the drain cocks to change the torque aspects of the way the power is delivered to the wheels.
@raisagorbachov3 жыл бұрын
Wheel spin says the driver needed to apply sand
@grayman9994 жыл бұрын
Repton losing her feet again a regular event on the Bank up to Gothland NYMR!
@tomhouseman94834 жыл бұрын
only when driven wrong
@Gary-cvr23Ай бұрын
The group of voulnteers im with at the nymr call her slippy repton beacuse shes known for slipping even on flat track or light engine
@paulcaswell28134 жыл бұрын
Bridgnorth is hardly 4-4-0 territory to be honest!
@cr100013 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know how many carriages she was hauling.
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf3 жыл бұрын
8
@cr100013 жыл бұрын
@@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf Thanks! Eight is a pretty good load in that location, it seems to be a notorious spot for slipping.
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf3 жыл бұрын
@@cr10001 1 in 66 from the platform end. Can be tricky yes.
@cr100013 жыл бұрын
@@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf Thanks again! That's useful information. I in 66 is, again, a quite stiff gradient to start on, though it isn't visually obvious in the videos.
@pradipkarmakar48295 жыл бұрын
Which country
@philclarke32035 жыл бұрын
England, UK
@pradipkarmakar48295 жыл бұрын
@@philclarke3203 , I am indian but I love England and English culture
@1701_FyldeFlyer6 жыл бұрын
These must be the drivers from the NYMR because they do exactly the same and have it struggling out of Grosmont.
@bobcornford36373 жыл бұрын
No sanding.... no traction.... simple.
@RobertdMacGregor Жыл бұрын
stopped dead center. traction had nout to do with it
@enquirer19566 жыл бұрын
Wasnt this engine overhauls not that long ago? It cannot pull more than 7 coaches unaided. On the NYMR it couldnt get out of Grosmont a few times and needed a shove from another loco. Last time it stalled just over the crossing. Very funny to watch but with all the wheelslip, you'd expect the driver to release some sand!
@AndreiTupolev6 жыл бұрын
Nothing is allowed more than seven coaches unaided on the NYMR, except perhaps Tornado which might be allowed eight. Anyway, Tornado made a pretty slippy departure from there in the recent gala, it's a very tricky station to get away from with the gradient and the curve.
@dominiquedescottes83145 жыл бұрын
C'est avec nostalgie que je regarde cette vidéo A savoir que l'Angleterre et La Belgique ont étés des precusseur,des innovateurs,et qu'aujourd'hui ils sont par mis les moins valeureux....
@popcorncolonel7265 жыл бұрын
Come ooonnn! Come oonn! Come on! Come on! Come on! We’re going to town! We’re going to town! We’re going to town
@AndreiTupolev6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that was the same driver as on Taw Valley here,who had exactly the same issue? kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3zdg4Goea1od7c
@cr100013 жыл бұрын
'Everybody' has that issue at this spot, apparently. Even a 'King' kzbin.info/www/bejne/npDLhIRvf8R2ers with just eight on. Taw Valley in that video had ten on - heavy load.
@ZalMoxis4 жыл бұрын
4-4-0 that's a big load for a little engine....
@paulcaswell28134 жыл бұрын
Little in physical size only. The 'Schools' packed a heck of a punch in actual fact!
@matmotor75725 жыл бұрын
Its Thomas..... Howdy, nice meeting you love.
@ianjones41163 жыл бұрын
Driver to Fireman ' do you think anyone noticed'? Lol. Driver ' we are low on steam pressure' Fireman replies ' we weren't, ya bloody idiot, you just wasted it all, trying to go backwards with brake on' lol Drive ' knew we should have took the Western ' (Diesel) Nice vid Pete. Shows it's not as easy as it looks, driving. My Dad would have howled at that . Take care mate . 👍😎🐢
@philclarke32033 жыл бұрын
Great 'conversation' Ian! thanks
@tunefultonyjohnson41006 жыл бұрын
Is this what's called "letting off steam...." ?? :)
@sretensaric44265 жыл бұрын
Ok super, super...
@brianpacos40723 жыл бұрын
Think of how much less tractive force thete would be without that massive guy in the cab...
@struck2soon7 жыл бұрын
Forgot the 'L' plates?
@1701_FyldeFlyer6 жыл бұрын
They never use sand for some reason.
@984francis6 жыл бұрын
It was stuck so he set back. Correct thing to do. He controlled the slipping beautifully. What's your point?
@Bigaid5 жыл бұрын
he did towards the end of the video
@jma79305 жыл бұрын
@@1701_FyldeFlyer actually what he did is correct as other have said. putting san down can cause drag on the coaches
@grahammoizer43885 жыл бұрын
Known on the Moors railway as 'RECTUM'
@grahammoizer43884 жыл бұрын
@@will_levitt926 Yes. I know.
@pasoundman5 жыл бұрын
Severn Valley rather than Seven of course. Nice engine.
@ernestoguevara89305 жыл бұрын
Forgot where the sander lever was! sorry. And most of the other important controls!
@frankanddanasnyder32725 жыл бұрын
Needs more traction wheels..
@markturner42195 жыл бұрын
No - the driver just needs to release the train brake fully. ;-)
@robertotrezza80775 жыл бұрын
Capricho
@bonkeydollocks18795 жыл бұрын
No wonder diesels took over
@davidantoniocamposbarros75283 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@bonkeydollocks18793 жыл бұрын
@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 in your opinion maybe
@mattyrallye7 жыл бұрын
Dead centre I'd say.
@billcobbett92595 жыл бұрын
but with cranks spaced at 90° or more one side will always be able to push or pull, surely?
@47606odin5 жыл бұрын
@@billcobbett9259 3 cylinders not two
@adamwoodward20036 жыл бұрын
Dead centre
@47606odin5 жыл бұрын
not on a 3 cylinder loco
@ericc44385 жыл бұрын
be a good time for a little sand
@v8pilot4 жыл бұрын
If the fat guy stood on the engine's footplate instead of on the tender, the engine would have enough grip to get started.
@nymrfootage4 жыл бұрын
The so called 'fat guy' is the guy who overhauled the loco and if you ever get the opportunity to meet him, you'll find he ain't so fat!
@jonsnell47515 жыл бұрын
Pity about the driver!
@mickcarson85044 жыл бұрын
Doesn't that indicate to you that the train has too many overloaded cars, or is it the first time the driver/s have experienced this? Overloaded trains struggles the locomotives towards an early death, and that also means early replacement of both locomotive components, worn out wheels and tracks. Dont they know this? And they call themselves engineers? LMAO! 🤣
@garthhentley88703 жыл бұрын
What utter drivel.
@ianjeffery67446 жыл бұрын
What a miserable display of bad driving and firing. These engines used to pull out of Tonbridge, from a standing start at the platform, and get up the bank to High Brooms with no trouble at all (and a full head of steam). The Schools were not prone to slipping, though Bulleid's Pacifics, alas, were!
@AndreiTupolev6 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the SVR's drivers who'd probably never set foot on one before, you have to remember that they don't have the chance for long periods of familiarisation if they arrive a day or two before
@Steve14ps5 жыл бұрын
I assume you have fired and driven locos yourself
@ScaniaVabis5805 жыл бұрын
It was stopped dead centre so starting off again was never going to be straightforward, he still should have used the sanders after he managed to roll it back
@richardgrant51055 жыл бұрын
How the hell can it be a bad driver if the wheels are slipping on the rail ??
@vaneiderosendo93815 жыл бұрын
ian jeffery
@ces43995 жыл бұрын
Big Boy nor Challenger wouldn't do that. Those English twins are wimpy.
@markwaldron16795 жыл бұрын
They're not twins there 4 cylinder locomotives. No disrespect but they look so much nicer
@catman3515 жыл бұрын
Mark Waldron Beauty contests don’t move freight.
@dankerthanclanker4 жыл бұрын
"An engine designed to move a shitzillion tons of freight would have started the train easier" No shit, Sherlock. Now put it on a fast stop start service.