Several functions, ONE Messiah! - Messiah Son of Joseph - EP 14 - Case for Messiah

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@logicaredux5205
@logicaredux5205 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely gobsmacked! “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” Daniel 12:4
@padillas4357
@padillas4357 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this series! ❤ The key is to think of different people in the Bible as prophetic Types and Shadows. People like Joseph, Moses, and David have characteristics of the Messiah.
@StrummaChick
@StrummaChick Жыл бұрын
Shalom Happy Hanukah at sunset. Got my first menorah this year. :) Yeshua the Master remembered The Maccabees. Being a follower of Him, I want to do what He did as much as possible. HalleluYah
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
Yes Happy Hanukah! iiiiIiiii 👍😉
@dailyoccasions9539
@dailyoccasions9539 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the book of Daniel, it says knowledge will increase in the last days. Thank you for the revealing it’s like water to dry and thirsty soul. With what humanity is facing today, Jesus is our only hope and our peace.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 Жыл бұрын
The book of Daniel says knowledge will increase, but it didn't say anything about the knowledge of God increasing. That is a completely different thing altogether. Considering Daniel also speaks of transgressions coming to the full in the same period, it is clear that the "knowledge" that was prophesied to increase in Dan. 12 is NOT godly knowledge.
@DebraCarey-h5t
@DebraCarey-h5t 9 ай бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 I believe BOTH types of knowledge are to increase.
@lavernekane5174
@lavernekane5174 Жыл бұрын
So glad/happy/ecstatic about this... the very first in all my 81 years have heard someone besides myself address Mary's connection to the Levites... you tied together so many quandries.. I always thought Johosphat messed up when he joined his house to Ahab's. Loved this can't wait for the next episode!😂
@marygayquigley9672
@marygayquigley9672 Жыл бұрын
WOW!!! This was BEAUTIFUL!!! Thank you for helping us dig even deeper into God's Word.🥰🥰🥰
@markimboden1958
@markimboden1958 Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome teaching! Also fun to watch Seth and Golan’s reaction to new revelation that does not conflict with their understanding but adds new dimensions to their understanding 😊
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think its having the same effect on most of us. 👍
@RaptureHead
@RaptureHead Жыл бұрын
Actually I found it confusing, and I felt he was trying to say that Joseph was also Jesus Christ s biological father, which is just not Biblical and I feel it’s like denying Christ s divinity, He was begotten of the Father, period., and a virgin, Mary, his mother.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
@@RaptureHead perhaps listen to it again because that's not at all what he was saying. Yeshua had the DNA 🧬 of Joseph and David thru His mother.
@tydy5266
@tydy5266 Жыл бұрын
​​@@RaptureHeadMaybe you simply didn't understand. Messiah son of David and Messiah son of Joseph are simply references to the lineage and archetypes of the messiahs. Ben David is to rule as King David did, Ben Joseph is to suffer as Joseph did but the Messiah is a decendant of these two
@RaptureHead
@RaptureHead Жыл бұрын
@@tydy5266 oh I am sorry if I misunderstood the guest, I didn’t realize he was saying that it was a type, or foreshadow of Jesus Christ, I thought he was trying to insinuate that Jesus Christ was more human, DNA related as his reference to Joseph being Jesus father, it biologically this wasn’t the case, so if I misunderstood I am sorry for that and as I did state I was going to watch the continuation of the episode to get better clarification God bless you and thanks for clearing it up for me Amen🙏
@crisseven1764
@crisseven1764 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting that Joshua and Caleb, the two who believed they can conquer the land, were from the tribes of Joseph and Judah, respectively.
@dellareesehartman1696
@dellareesehartman1696 Жыл бұрын
I am always astounded by how much I learn watching these podcasts. Just beautiful
@operafunopera
@operafunopera Жыл бұрын
Jesus is not just Messiah, for he's God.
@JoanoftheArk300
@JoanoftheArk300 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 💯 and Amen 🙏
@PennySmart
@PennySmart Жыл бұрын
The Bible shows that the Messiah is divine.
@JesseJudah144
@JesseJudah144 Жыл бұрын
Who is Messiah's Abba he always spoke of, prayed to. How Elohiym anointed Yahusha of Nazareth with holy Spirit and power, who went about doing good healing all oppressed of the devil. GOD ALMIGHTY anointed Messiah. Even Peter declared Yahusha the Messiah - the Son of the Living God and Messiah told Peter, flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but my Abba or Father
@btbb3726
@btbb3726 Жыл бұрын
“. . . they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him . . .” Zechariah 12:10 NASB 👍🏻
@yl5020
@yl5020 Жыл бұрын
​@@JesseJudah144Yeshua
@mariamcdaid2655
@mariamcdaid2655 Жыл бұрын
I love these insights! Thank you One for Israel. Happy Hanukkah 🕎
@jeffellenberger
@jeffellenberger Жыл бұрын
Keep this going gentlemen. God bless you all for keeping focused on His Word. How awesome our God is and How Glorious His Word. All the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in Jesus Christ and revealed to those who trust in Him, the Word that Delivers with the words from the Deliverer. May Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour continued to be honoured by this ministry and the sharing of His Good News and what He has done, is doing and will come to do. All Glory be to Him forever and ever!
@vdoniel
@vdoniel Жыл бұрын
Amen
@changedavis4306
@changedavis4306 Жыл бұрын
Seth, I appreciate you mentioned Dr. Cole's work on the Psalter. I'm also glad to hear I'm not the only one hearing some of these things about Messiah Ben Yosef for the first time.
@yl5020
@yl5020 Жыл бұрын
I haven't even started to watch the video yet. I just have to say that I am SOOO happy to see you guys👏🏽 Halleluyah! God bless you and yours 🙏🏽💟✡️🕎✝️
@nerd_patriot_disciple
@nerd_patriot_disciple Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this. At first I was like “hold on wait a second “,but after we got the full explanation in this i find it so beautiful. He is the Messiah for all of Israel not just one tribe and He is Messiah for all the world. Also being of the tribe of Ephraim myself it’s awesome to see how my ancestors had a connection and role to play in our salvation via the Messiah.
@herinsh
@herinsh Жыл бұрын
It’s just miraculous how reading the Scripture through Hebrew eyes can open connections you don’t see when your cross references are chapter & verse not intersecting words
@JoeL-gl5ie
@JoeL-gl5ie Жыл бұрын
This is the beginning of our Jewish brothers recognizing Jesus as their Messiah. Two Messiahs, one same person. The scriptures reveal the truth in its own time.
@padillas4357
@padillas4357 Жыл бұрын
I have heard some Rabbis say that there is 2 Messiahs, and the 1st will rescue us physically, and the 2nd will rescue us spiritually. They are close, but still misunderstanding who the Messiah is and what He does. Yeshua (Jesus) came the 1st time to free us spiritually, and He will come the 2nd time to physically rule and reign as our savior King.
@marcellusdavenport
@marcellusdavenport Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget he’s going to rescue us physically 2nd as well … “harpozo”
@Natalia-nx5nu
@Natalia-nx5nu Жыл бұрын
The spirit maybe the Holy Ghost 🧐
@padillas4357
@padillas4357 Жыл бұрын
@marcellusdavenport We do get rescued at the Rapture, but that is not the 2nd coming. The Rapture happens before the time of Jacob's Trouble (Great Tribulation), and the 2nd coming is at the end of this period and before the Millennial Reign. If you look at the actions of the events, then you can see that the Rapture and 2nd coming are 2 separate events.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 Жыл бұрын
​@@marcellusdavenport Christ will physically rescue His followers, but it won't be with a rapture.
@marcellusdavenport
@marcellusdavenport Жыл бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Harpazo means caught up
@moonbeammimi
@moonbeammimi Жыл бұрын
So, so interesting!! In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter to me, because I just see Jesus - Yeshua - as The Messiah and my Savior. However, what better way to "spend" ones life than to study the Scriptures delving into the "deep secrets" of the Word of the Lord that never, ever contradicts itself!! This is amazing and so, so interesting!! Thank you for this series! Blessings to you all!! ❤❤🙏🏼🤲
@virginialowry4443
@virginialowry4443 Жыл бұрын
I have always thought of scripture as being as vast as all of the oceans combined, and even more. We all know there are huge amounts of the oceans that have never been explored, yet when something new is discovered, we all marvel and applaud the finding. I myself, and from reading several comments many of you, have only let my toes get wet in this vast ocean of God's written word. These men are at least up to their knees in studying and researching this vast ocean. They are sharing what they have learned so we all can benefit in knowing our most Holy Father. I may be the only one on here who enjoys having my mind streatched when it comes to God's Word. If I don't like what is said, usually because I don't understand, I either put it on the back burner until later, or just enjoy what I have already learned. I also ask questions for clarity, but try my best not to attack people of much higher learning and knowledge than myself. Thank you One for Israel for feeding this baby eagle until I am able to soar on the high winds.
@peterlowe6064
@peterlowe6064 Ай бұрын
I love your response! You have put into words exactly how I feel about the Word. Now there are at least two eagles soaring together!
@mattaikay925
@mattaikay925 Жыл бұрын
Thanks greate teachers for bringing us this teaching - mind boggling - Baruch Atah Adonai Eloheinu Melech HaOlam - may Adonai bless you and keep you.
@Cheapers-Vac
@Cheapers-Vac Жыл бұрын
This only gets better ! soooo grateful for this ! Thank you all. !!
@oakwoodsams2751
@oakwoodsams2751 Жыл бұрын
Thank Dr. Postell and Dr.Broshi you two are asking all of the right questions, thank you for guiding the conversation back to the scriptures. This was a great discussion I will definitely be searching the scriptures for these claims and I will be getting a copy of Dr. Mitchell’s book as well.🙏🏾🇮🇱🙏🏾
@topazblahblah
@topazblahblah Жыл бұрын
😮 YES!!! This is what the Son of Man title really means! He is the Son of all patriarchs by blood and by spirit - all things are connected to Him! All things are a type and shadow of Him who was and is to come. This is beautiful doctrine. Thank you for this Revelation, our Jewish brethren!
@vdoniel
@vdoniel Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating and illuminating. Thank you all. May God continue to bless your ministry, thereby blessing us. Thank God for giving theml such a spirit to study and share. From Georgia USA
@user-464
@user-464 Жыл бұрын
This series is such a Blessing ❤
@peterlowe6064
@peterlowe6064 2 ай бұрын
These four videos with David Mitchell must be the best at least for me of all the One for Israel videos La creme de la creme!
@deesharp7677
@deesharp7677 Жыл бұрын
I’m humbled by your knowledge. Thank you for these new insights.
@TheBackyardProfessor
@TheBackyardProfessor 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I just found David Mitchell's website and his book is on its way to me. So thank you for sharing these interviews. You are wonderful people!
@ayeshajanejr5-c660
@ayeshajanejr5-c660 Жыл бұрын
I'm proud of myself I am Jesus Christ follower❤
@lawrencefox9225
@lawrencefox9225 Жыл бұрын
I think that John chapter 1: 45 alludes to a position on the Messiah son of Joseph. "Philip found Nathanael and said to him, 'We have found Him of whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the prophets also wrote: Jesus the son of Joseph, from Nazareth!'”
@simonewilliams7224
@simonewilliams7224 10 ай бұрын
Amazing, after the first episode I studied in several bibles and the Torah to follow your progression of thought and it’s just in your face right, there is the truth of it. And it’s always been. Thank you so much. I was always taught to read the Bible and never stop reading it, you will discover or someone will show you new things. And there is so much interwoven themes and overlapping you cannot learn all the nuances.
@JesseJudah144
@JesseJudah144 Жыл бұрын
Messiah is making intercession for us even now before his Abba and God, even our Abba and God .......... Jesus said to her, “Do not touch me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” John's Good News the Twentieth Chapter
@dentonhahn2907
@dentonhahn2907 Жыл бұрын
His last statement is my thoughts exactly, i cant wait!
@sara6961
@sara6961 Жыл бұрын
Woah so good I have goosebumps!! Our Lord is so AMAZING!! I’m in awe the more I know, I realized how idk anything. 😅
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
Great testimony! And yes the more you know the more the scriptures will amaze you! To God be the Glory! Amen🕎✝️
@vdoniel
@vdoniel Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@angelasoderstrom3736
@angelasoderstrom3736 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely surprised by this. Thank you for your spiritual insight about the Messiah Hamashiach Looking forward to hearing more. God bless you all🙏
@sandypratt8951
@sandypratt8951 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is Lord.🙏👍
@lonestarstate6570
@lonestarstate6570 Жыл бұрын
This was great! Excited for part 3
@jimmybones8452
@jimmybones8452 Жыл бұрын
Everybody needs to read his books, called Messiah, Ben Joseph, and his book called Jesus the incarnation of the word. So nobody misinterprets what trying to be said, they know very well that Yeshua is GOD
@silverclouds3725
@silverclouds3725 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the heads up!! I didn't want to get deep into this video only to find that One For Israel has been led into heresy. That would be heartbreaking!! On the other hand, it's the times in which we find ourselves. Thanks again!
@lydiematumona6235
@lydiematumona6235 Жыл бұрын
​@@silverclouds3725 i had this concern as well after watching the first episode. But they know what they're talking about. There's only one Messiah, and He is God in the flesh!
@annaduffy2344
@annaduffy2344 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, continued unveiling of Messiah (Jesus) so good we cam always learn. Thank you dear brothers.😊♥️
@wyldchild346
@wyldchild346 Жыл бұрын
PSALM 149 : 8 - 9 To bind their kings with chains, (DNA) and their nobles with fetters of iron; To EXECUTE upon the judgment (WRITTEN): this honour have all (HIS )saints. Praise ye the LORD. (i.e. fetters- foot , bondage, bond) I been studying in Psalms for the past 7 months healing my broken Ribs I was writing this psalm down while listening to this video. This PSALM says it all. Also Hebrew letters hold a frequency while singing Psalm. I am on a deep deep dive. and just to give you another MIC Drop! EVERY WORD OF THE BIBLE can be SUNG. I have done it ! just open up the book! Start singing. THESE are musical note's forming a sacred geometry. Just look into or through the window of Chartres Cathedral. This was how it was built by patterns of the bible. Peace be with you! Jennifer
@terryhardaway3285
@terryhardaway3285 Жыл бұрын
Shalom Aleichem, Thank you for these enlightening teachings. Messiah Ben Yosef is the Servant King, and as an archetype parallels the life of Yeshua as the Redeemer. Messiah Ben David will come in the clouds; however, the Chasidics are still waiting for the Redeemer to arise from their midst. Isaiah63 is the Ezekiel38 war of the Zechariah14 event. Am Yisrael chai! Baruch HaShem! Be well and be Blessed, A fellow sojourner
@Tom-cv7sf
@Tom-cv7sf Жыл бұрын
Keep the Feasts of the Lord by the Spirit once for all time becoming a Temple Made without Hands ❤
@addie109
@addie109 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining further in Part 2. Part 1 left me so very confused It's clearer to me now. Hopefully Part 3 will help explain even further. Praying for your ministry and for the peace of Israel
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 Жыл бұрын
Revelations 3.21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as l overcame and am set down with my Father in his Throne. It’s Joseph all over again. 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO
@lonestarstate6570
@lonestarstate6570 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear Dr. David Mitchell confirm the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as “Yehovah” and not “Yahweh”. I’ve put a lot of research into that particular topic, and have come to the same conclusion. I would love to see a study on how we know the vowels “Sh’va, Kolom, Kamatz” do not belong to the word “Adoni”
@lydiematumona6235
@lydiematumona6235 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I like the pronunciation Yahweh better
@arkenautgundlach2498
@arkenautgundlach2498 Жыл бұрын
I have not heard it like that. Thank you for this channel
@joshmacwhirter8221
@joshmacwhirter8221 Жыл бұрын
Happy Hannukah and thank you Yeshua for your atoning death.
@John14-06
@John14-06 Жыл бұрын
This study & discussion is a DEEP dig. It is interesting, provocative & confusing! But, it does not alter my basic definition of salvation. That is that Christ lived a perfect life, died a horrible death, and rose from the dead as a propitiation for my sins (and, ALL who believe in HIM), and, now sits on the right hand of GOD until that great day when HE snatches away HIS BRIDE!
@SeeNoEvil777
@SeeNoEvil777 Жыл бұрын
Maranatha ✝💕
@phillipzabukovec6690
@phillipzabukovec6690 Жыл бұрын
Ezk 37:17 Then join them one to another for yourself into one stick, and they will become one in your hand. Ezk 37:18 "And when the children of your people speak to you, saying, 'Will you not show us what you mean by these?'- Ezk 37:19 say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand." '
@warneachothereverydayheb.3406
@warneachothereverydayheb.3406 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing! The Jewish people of Jesus time on earth must not have been taught about Messiah son of Joseph! They weren't expecting him, only son of David!
@lydiematumona6235
@lydiematumona6235 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! The last video got me a bit confused... But now, everything makes more sense. Can't wait for the next episode!
@stormchaser9738
@stormchaser9738 Жыл бұрын
This is breathtaking
@MAruGGs
@MAruGGs Жыл бұрын
You guys are back at it ! 🙏
@-Sun327
@-Sun327 Жыл бұрын
Great knowledge of God's Words Stay Blessed ❣️💞❣️😇🙏👍
@J0HN_3_16
@J0HN_3_16 Жыл бұрын
Happy Hanukkah. Let's not forget YESHUA's 2nd coming will manifest very different aspects of HIS character than HIS first.
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan Жыл бұрын
1) Priestly Messiah: anointed righteous priest (if it's Jesus then he's like and is greater than high priests, Melchizedek or Joshua, the Levite) 2) Prophet Messiah: anointed righteous prophet (if it's Jesus then he's like and is greater than prophets, Moses or Elijah) 3) King Messiah: anointed righteous king (if it's Jesus then he's like and is greater than kings, David or Solomon) 4) Warrior Messiah: anointed for righteous war (if it one day will be jesus then he's like and is greater than warriors, Joshua or Gideon, of both tribes of Joseph: Ephraim and Manasseh respectively)
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan Жыл бұрын
I think if you have conquering king and suffering king as two separate people... you may want to see if you can see it as the following: You have one suffering king (clearly king Jesus, king of kings), that is: 1) 2) 3), which is Prophet Priest and King... and then you have one conquering king, that is 1) 4) 3), which is Priestly Military King...
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan Жыл бұрын
If you can see it this other way in terms of spiritual vs political messiah, you might see it as one political messiah, that might be best seen as 2) 3) 4)... whereas one spiritual messiah, that might be best seen as 1) 2) 3)..... just to give you something to consider.......
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan Жыл бұрын
If it’s locked in your head that Melchizedek is the righteous priest and Elijah is the prophet, then the other two are the end of time king of kings, messiah Jesus, and the one anointed for war, Joshua.. each of the two are like Moses, Joseph and David in their own regard.....
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan Жыл бұрын
I think I see various layers to the idea of “return of the king”.... David returns to separate the lean and fat sheep... the return of David’s throne... Jesus returns to separate the sheep and the goats..... one, a symbol for the messianic king, David, who leads to the next symbol for the messianic king, Joshua the Levite, who leads to the next somewhat definitive Christian messianic king, king Jesus, who raises debates and questions that you happen to be faithfully and dutifully debating here from a Jewish perspective, who prophesies about a future end times messianic king, who could be seen as Joshua son of Joseph, anointed for war, who either leads to or is the return of final definitive messianic king, Heir of David. I think the Davidic covenant can show how a Priestly Military King paves the way - even in exile - for a Prophet Priest and King who could be seen as a symbol for the next Prophet Priest King who prophesies the coming of a future Priestly Military King who then conquers and establishes a) a Davidic throne physically or symbolically on our hearts, b) a messianic/heavenly kingdom of saints and perhaps c) a new earthly/heavenly temple before the return of messianic age of the Messiah, the Prophet Priest and King......... One may put it this way: one "son of man" being the forerunner for the other "son of man" who is then paving the way for the return of the one "like a son of man" coming next........
@JathnielChan
@JathnielChan Жыл бұрын
If you can accept it, during the time of Jesus, John the Baptist is anointed priest and prophet Elijah. During that time, Jesus could be seen as both Joshua son of Joseph and zerubabbel son of David. In the end times, we know that there are two witnesses who are golden lamp stands - one a priest and one a prophet... then there’s a ruler, a male child...and a conqueror... possibly four distinct figures, if you can accept it! (Revelation 11, 12, 19)
@deesharp7677
@deesharp7677 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for part 3
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 Жыл бұрын
Psalms 87 the son of Joseph comes with music 🎵 to be born in Zion Judah & Ephraim all my springs are in thee 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO
@dblocal1
@dblocal1 Жыл бұрын
💯
@bryanwells6474
@bryanwells6474 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath, When I was a child God told me something I never forgot. Something Is coming in from space that will give men heart attacks and no babies will be born. Now I know it as men impatient with fear . Praise God
@NonyaBusiness-j3n
@NonyaBusiness-j3n Жыл бұрын
Wow. I had to listen twice just to be able to follow thinking about multiple messiahs. I've done in-depth literature study & loved it, but never this deep in the Bible or with the materials available for you, gentlemen. I'm jealous!! 😊 On the lineage of Jesus Christ: I was always taught that 2 gospels give the parental genealogy: His legal father (Matt.) & also His mother (Luke). Joseph's lineage was Matthew 1:1-16. Luke 2:4-5 states simply Joseph was of the lineage of David, but then in Luke 3:23-38, Mary's lineage is given past Abraham, back to Adam. There are major differences in Luke & Matthew's linages, which is attributed to the differences of Joseph & Mary. I will watch the 1st podcast and then relisten to this 2nd one. Both with my Bible open!! Thank you, gentlemen! Excellent discussion. I pray for peace in Jerusalem. I pray for y'all. Many blessing from the Lord upon all of you! I stand with Israel! ❤
@davidmitchell265
@davidmitchell265 Жыл бұрын
Luke doesn't give Mary's genealogy. He gives Joseph's genealogy from Nathan. If you want to know more, read "Jesus: The Incarnation of the Word" (2021)
@NonyaBusiness-j3n
@NonyaBusiness-j3n Жыл бұрын
@@davidmitchell265 Thank you, David. I do want to learn more. I'll look up the book & read. Appreciate the suggestion & off of help.
@lydiematumona6235
@lydiematumona6235 Жыл бұрын
​@@davidmitchell265 i heard of a possible explanation to the different genealogies, which really made a lot of sense to me. It says that Solomon probably had relations with his brother's (Nathan) wife after his death. This would be possible following a levitical law, that says that if someone (a man) dies without leaving any descendants, the brother of this person (that died) is supposed to sleep with the person's wife. That would then mean that Solomon slept with Nathan's wife to give him descendance. Like this Yeshua would be biologically from David's and Solomon's line, but legally from Nathan's line. This makes a lot of sense
@lydiematumona6235
@lydiematumona6235 Жыл бұрын
​@@davidmitchell265 is it possible for you to give us a brave summary into what the book says?
@NonyaBusiness-j3n
@NonyaBusiness-j3n Жыл бұрын
Definitely needs a deeper study. I've grown up being told both parents lineage were presented since the father is the legal line, but in Jesus case, being a virgin, Mary's line would be important to be included. Some of the great modern theologians hold this view. But I've looked up the book & asked my library to send for it. Again, thank you!
@WisdomCalls
@WisdomCalls Жыл бұрын
This has opened my eyes to so much in the scriptures! So many pieces are falling into place. It explains why Gen 37 and 38 intertwines the stories of Joseph and Judah. Now, the Lord had been showing me there was something special about Ephraim (son of Joseph) from Jeremiah 31 ““They will come with weeping; they will pray as I bring them back. I will lead them beside streams of water on a level path where they will not stumble, because I am Israel’s father, and Ephraim is my firstborn son.” I was wondering about how Ephraim could be the firstborn son. It seemed like a messianic title. And Ephraim is Joseph’s firstborn son. So if Messiah is Ben Joseph, then Ephraim also typifies Messiah! Then when God tears part of the kingdom away from Solomon he gives it to Jeroboam the Ephraimite the houses of Joseph and Judah are separated yet their stories are intertwined through the Kings. Then in the Messianic passage of Isaiah 11 it says this “12He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth. 13Ephraim’s jealousy will vanish, and Judah’s enemies will be destroyed; Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah, nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.” Messiah will unite both houses of Judah and Joseph because he is the son of both, I believe. I feel as though I have just scratched the surface but it’s so exciting because I was just praying for answers this week and here they are!!!! Glory to God!
@marianowa6360
@marianowa6360 Жыл бұрын
Mariam! The Blessed Virgin Mary Mother of Yeshua ❤ I have been waiting sooo long to hear Her sweet name here 🙏🙏🙏🙏 God bless Israel, dear Brothers and Sisters 😊😊
@lydiematumona6235
@lydiematumona6235 Жыл бұрын
She's not a virgin anymore tho...
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 Жыл бұрын
Revelations, 14.9 The Loud cry his is message to the world before Jesus comes back 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO
@dblocal1
@dblocal1 Жыл бұрын
@FrankPCarpi
@FrankPCarpi Жыл бұрын
I think that there's another distinction between Joseph's suffering and David's; whereas David suffered due to his own sins, where Joseph suffered without a cause of his own.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 Жыл бұрын
This is false, and here's why: Psa. 105:19 says God tested Joseph while he was in prison. He wouldn't have done that unless there was a character flaw that God wanted to weed out of Joseph before making him the prime minister of Egypt. Joseph had a bit of a pride problem, and it shows itself in Gen. 37:5-10, 40:13-14. That is why God made the butler forget about him for 2 yrs.
@SouthDFW
@SouthDFW Жыл бұрын
Thank you guys, I love your channel.
@putragabriel2716
@putragabriel2716 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for youre teaching, Gby. ❤
@John14-06
@John14-06 Жыл бұрын
I am back two days later to ensure that I'm getting it! I am still trying to make sense of it all. I'm looking forward to more teachings, Though, not Jewish, I see myself as a son of Issachar, as I am daily searching for current information as well as scriptural inspiration!
@kevingoode521
@kevingoode521 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful!! Peace in my spirit to hear this because I have known for some time this truth.
@alephtav7344
@alephtav7344 Жыл бұрын
JOSEPH STORY WAS ONE OF THE BEST IN BOOK OF JASHER COMPLETES THE MISSING SUMMARIZED STORY IN BIBLE
@Richard_Paradise
@Richard_Paradise Жыл бұрын
This is very powerful stuff. Great guest. Thanks guys.
@Yondu5093
@Yondu5093 Жыл бұрын
i love this podcast 🎉❤❤❤
@annakristine6118
@annakristine6118 Жыл бұрын
I see Josephs suffering, in solitude, rejected by his brothers, prisoner/slave to foreigners in a foreign land, like a picture of the Lost Sheep of Israel who are still in exile/diaspora. The ones who have been rejected by their own (like the Messiah also), beaten up and left for dead, sold into slavery, "eaten by the wolves" etc.. BUT Abba upholds him (them) with His strong hand, his rightous arm and turns the evil to good, setting him (them) up in a high place in safety - as with the Messiah 🥰
@alchemenergyacademy6231
@alchemenergyacademy6231 Жыл бұрын
Many could be considered messiahs or saviors of the temporal welfare of others… but only one Messiah/Savior Saved our eternal souls from separation with the Father.
@Revelation2219
@Revelation2219 Жыл бұрын
So so revealing son of David and son of Joseph. And Mary is from both, the Kings side and from the Priest side. So Jesus is both KING AND PRIEST. SO TRUE AS PER THE SCRIPTURES 🙏🏻❤️
@Rebecca-oz9fu
@Rebecca-oz9fu Жыл бұрын
Very insightful teaching. Thank you for these insights. Praying for Israel and the peace of Jerusalem.🇺🇸❤🇮🇱
@Logic807
@Logic807 Жыл бұрын
Ezekiel 37:19 is a good one. But I will not describe it as marriage. The marriage of the lamb is the body of Christ (bride) and Jesus Christ.
@Youngster12_
@Youngster12_ Жыл бұрын
I love it my ninja , Jesus coming back!!! Let it rip my ninja🥷🏿🥷🏿 twin brothers from Judah!!!!! Oh, this is gonna be good!!!!
@kathleensanford1950
@kathleensanford1950 Жыл бұрын
Very, very rich insights. I really enjoy the teachings that come to us gentile followers of Jesus from One For Israel
@jamespayne5570
@jamespayne5570 Жыл бұрын
As we were separated in our rebellion, shall we not be woven together in obedience.
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 Жыл бұрын
this Bible study 📖 on Zechariah 12.10 might open your eyes on what l am going on about in the Bible study Ephraim the son of Joseph like Isaiah 11.9:14 Ezekiel 37.1:14 the vision of dry bones in the valley and Ezekiel 37.15:28 The parable of the two sticks of the house Judah and house of Joseph the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel 🇮🇱 his companions: this means they will become one again 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO Jeremiah chapter 30 and 31 this the new covenant Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that l will make with the house of lsrael : After those days . Saith the Lord l will put my law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts ❤️: and will be their God and they shall be my people. Jeremiah 30 to 31 Look 👀 how many times ✖️ God mentions Ephraim ? Then you have Genesis Abraham Isaac and Jacob and Joseph and the blessings promises from God to them all Genesis 48 to 49 Genesis 49.1 and Jacob called unto his sons and said Gather yourselves together that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days. Isaiah 11 is a last day prophecy. Ezekiel 37 is a last day prophecy and Jeremih The new covenant is a last day prophecy. ? And I’ve got plenty more scripture, 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO
@dblocal1
@dblocal1 Жыл бұрын
@brightbite
@brightbite Жыл бұрын
I think I could better follow along with this presentation with a visual aid such as a chart, as I am a visual learner.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
I can understand that. Visual aids are always helpful. This teaching on Messiah "types" is rarely if ever discussed among Christians. Its very easily misunderstood as a few of the comments indicate. Its a blessing to be able to listen to a video like this over and over until those wonderful 'ah hah' moments come. I don't know if you know this but you can click on the transcript and read the words being said. The closed caption program that types the transcript can get a word wrong occasionally.. but you'll get thru it just fine. Its not visual but it's might be the next best thing for you! check it out 👍
@darleneholtrop4532
@darleneholtrop4532 Жыл бұрын
YHWY be praised! I knew that the Gospels in the NT reveal Yeshua as Messiah King, Suffering Servant, Son of Man, and Son of God. Now I've learned that Messiah is shown in the Hebrew Bible through Joseph (Sacrifice), Moses (Prophet), Aaron (Priest), and David (King). 😃❤
@ChosenAndUndone
@ChosenAndUndone 10 ай бұрын
I have learned much from these presentations! This is my 3rd time watching through it! But I wanted to share something that I'm not sure I have commented on just yet. I believe these Scriptures make the Messiah Son of Joseph becoming the Messiah Son of David ever so clearer. Please bear in mind, I did not go searching for these texts. This just came up during my devotional reading one morning, and the timing was perfect because your first video on this topic had just come out!!! Please note the following prophecy: Ezekiel 37:15-28 (KJV) "15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 24 And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."
@equinetherapywithact
@equinetherapywithact Жыл бұрын
The 4 Messiah's might be the 4 different gospels to look at the Messiah as in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?
@ThomasFuchs7
@ThomasFuchs7 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. But they represent Mattei Lēwī: Lion, King (eternal havenly glory) Yōchānān Markus Ox/Steer/Kerūb, hard working Animal and Servant or slave (temporal earthly glory) Lukas human, true human (halfeternal, temporal glory) Yōchānān eagle, true God from the heavens, overlook from above (eternal glory) Written by 2 Apostles and eyewitnesses and 2 Prophets, who where no eyewitnesses. At least 2 or better 3 whitnesses at a Court, especially for a deathsentence. We have the minimum doubled and squared.
@4loversofchrist
@4loversofchrist Жыл бұрын
I love discussions like this!! Check out Isaiah 53:4-8 which also states that the Messiah was afflicted. The Tractate Sanhedrin, the commentary by rabbis regarding Isaiah 53 says: …”Surely he has borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did ESTEEM HIM A LEPER; smitten of God, and afflicted.” He is SO despised and outcast, He is considered a leper. Interesting. To me, this takes His rejection to a more extreme level. Taken outside of the walls to be crucified, rejected by His own people in a such a repugnant way….He did not come first as the KING… what they wanted…to rescue them from Roman power….He came to bear their sins and was crucified…hanging on a tree, accursed. His disciples fled (except for John). It was thought prior to the resurrection, that Satan had his victory but we know Christ had the ultimate victory!! He took the punishment also mentioned in Joshua 23:13…He bore the scourges and thorns promised to them as their punishment for disobeying God.
@WisdomCalls
@WisdomCalls Жыл бұрын
So just like in Zechariah he said the imagery of David and Joseph is in a single character I would say that could be why Moses intertwined the stories of Joseph and Judah’s progeny with the story of Tamar and Perez. They are linked
@chuckporritt6958
@chuckporritt6958 Жыл бұрын
I had never considered the idea of 'Messiah ben Joseph' before. Thank you. And truly Jesus is Israel's 'Joseph'; a brother turned over to the Gentiles long ago, and who the majority of the Jewish people today believe is dead. This all corresponds to the 'woman' of Revelation 12, whose symbolism points back to the second of Joseph's dreams. Now the nation of Israel needs to be told that their 'Joseph' is not dead, but working behind the scenes (through current events) to bring His brethren to repentance. This message may not be popular with the Jewish people. OFI may even be accused of wishing hardship upon Israel. But it's the word of God, and He will use it to save souls.
@fabianapimentel6114
@fabianapimentel6114 Жыл бұрын
The woman who delivered a baby king was Mary, not Israel. While Israel keep not humbling themselves and still think they are the center of everything they will stay blind to the truth. Jesus came to preach to the people of Israel, be rejected by them and save the whole word. He built his church, not with Israel but everyone who believes him, there is no Israel as people of God today, but a Catholic (Universal) church who is not only his people but his bride and his body. I know one day people of Israel will stop listening to those rabbis and listen to the Messiah God Jesus, becouse it is a prophetic word for that, until there any jew or non jew that wants to be saved will have to humble and join the body of Christ through faith in his death and resurrection.
@danielhertz7266
@danielhertz7266 Жыл бұрын
AMEN! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🧎🏽‍♂️
@thehopeofisraelministry4182
@thehopeofisraelministry4182 Жыл бұрын
Wow my mind has just been blown! Thank you! Also, remember that the only two who entered the promise land from the ones that came out of Egypt were Caleb and Joshua. Caleb comes from the tribe of Judah (his father was actually a convert) and Joshua comes from the tribe of Ephraim which is from Joseph. These two were the only two who entered from the original ones that came out, everyone else was born in the desert.
@thehopeofisraelministry4182
@thehopeofisraelministry4182 Жыл бұрын
And I also I believe Moses (from the line of Aaron) also entered. Hear me out before you make a decision…when God tells Moses to go up the mountain to see the promise land, God tells him to look in all directions. Think about it, if your up on a hill and you’re looking at all directions, then you are standing right smack in the middle of the promise land.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
Very illuminating!... mind expanding.. blessing! 🕎✝️
@WORTHYOFITALL
@WORTHYOFITALL Жыл бұрын
Elijah comes before the great and also the terrible day of the Lord
@alexleal9941
@alexleal9941 Жыл бұрын
Zechariah 12:10 also speaks of Messiah son of Joseph with regard to His suffering?
@michaeljenkins8330
@michaeljenkins8330 Жыл бұрын
My question then is: Do the four gospels present Yeshua as each type of messiah individually in each separate testimony, but as a unified messiah over the course of the four books?
@emurre4976
@emurre4976 Жыл бұрын
Now i understand the relation between Elisabet and Mary. I was always wondering.
@returntoyehovahthelord6185
@returntoyehovahthelord6185 Жыл бұрын
Ohh. Just had a thought while listening. The multiple promises about what appear to be different messiahs is like a couple of the feasts. We all connect Yeshua’s death in the cross to Passover. However, there are so many elements of Yom Kippur that seem to directly link to His atoning death and the forgiveness of sin. People would argue Yeshua didn’t do anything on earth during Yom Kippur. Maybe in the heavenly realm he carried his blood into the temple above and completed the Yom Kippur rituals there. I just see that there is a similarity with this and the separate messiahs. Very good discussion. Thank you gentlemen!
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the 7 Feasts and their literal fulfillment. Jesus fulfilled the first 4 feasts.. the next 3 are yet to be fulfilled.
@returntoyehovahthelord6185
@returntoyehovahthelord6185 Жыл бұрын
@@rapturebound197 - Yes. That’s the standard belief. When you look at what is done by the High Priest on Yom Kippur, you can sure picture our High Priest, Yeshua fulfilling these in the Heavenly Temple. Does that mean he won’t do something on earth to fulfill it when he returns? No, of course not. He could do both.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
@@returntoyehovahthelord6185 👍 see you in Glory.. until then may the Lord bless your efforts to reach the lost! 🕎✝️
@returntoyehovahthelord6185
@returntoyehovahthelord6185 Жыл бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 - You are basing this on what? It has been repeated over and over but it is just an assumption. We don’t know that based on anything in the Word. As far as what I said, it is also speculation. You can’t consider it as a possibility because you have this idea that it ‘has to be fulfilled in the Fall or when Messiah returns.’ So much of the imagery of Yom Kippur is very much what we believe Yeshua did with his sacrificial death. It would have been in the Heavenly Realm not in earth. I’m surprised you can’t see that.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 Жыл бұрын
@@returntoyehovahthelord6185 The Day of Atonement has NOT been fulfilled yet. You are trying to sound more knowledgeable by spiritualizing this festival's enormous importance away, and you're only exposing how little you actually know. The work Jesus is currently doing in the heavenly temple is for _Christians_ , not the whole world(1 Jhn 2:1).
@michaellugo3732
@michaellugo3732 Жыл бұрын
Now that an argument has been made for 4 types of Messiahs, transfer seems to be the missing component. Priest to Christ seems to happen with John the Baptist. who is form Aron's line. The Prophet to Christ on the Mound of Transfiguration. The transfer form Joseph to Christ seems to happen in Psalm 78, which does close a lot of gaps left open for Joseph's tribe by way of Gen 49:22-26 blessing by Jacob. Thank you and I look forward to comments. Cheers!
@salmanabawi1916
@salmanabawi1916 Жыл бұрын
Loved it Great insight Book of numbers 13/16 , and Moses called O’Shea the son of Nun Jehoshua
@Mel-zu6xy
@Mel-zu6xy Жыл бұрын
It seems to be important for jesus to be the messiah of both the northern kingdom and the southern to have the bloodlines for both. IT also seems to me that it would be hard for the southern kingdom to accept a messiah from the north.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 Жыл бұрын
The Bible does not teach this anywhere, and whoever takes this scholar's word for it is a fool. The genealogy traces Christ's heritage specifically to Judah. Christ is prophesied to sit on the throne of _David_ , not Jeroboam. Ppl are allowing themselves to be deceived by that guy's reasoning because he sounds knowledgeable, but he's a fool who also think that there are other Messiahs.
@Mel-zu6xy
@Mel-zu6xy Жыл бұрын
@theeternalsbeliever1779 The point I believe he is making is that these things are fulfilled in Christ. They are types and Shadows of our Messiah Yashua. He is from the tribe of David, and although he didn't sit on the throne, he will when returns, he will rule with an iron Scepter.
@canonfodder808
@canonfodder808 Жыл бұрын
On the edge of my seat
@Maxfr8
@Maxfr8 Жыл бұрын
There is only one Messiah.
@WORTHYOFITALL
@WORTHYOFITALL Жыл бұрын
The word "Messiah" (mashiach) comes from the verb mashach, which means to smear or anoint with oil, usually for the purpose of dedicating or consecrating something (such as a temple vessel) or someone (such as a prophet, priest or king) for the service of Adonai
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 Жыл бұрын
No one said otherwise.
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