Severance Season 2 Episode 2 Breakdown | Recap & Review

[@MovieFiles]

What did you think of the episode and thoughts on Helena and Cobel and who was Irving on the phone with? Also what did you think of the ending and share your theories in the comments? Help me reach 70K Subscribers! SUBSCRIBE TODAY! ▸ bit.ly/2lj413n​ Join this channel to get access to perks: kzbin.info/door/qD7CXlHe1jNemKzFjkOUlQjoin FOLLOW ME ► TikTok | www.tiktok.com/@moviefiles ► Instagram | instagram.com/moviefiles ► Twitter | twitter.com/MovieFilesLive ► Letterboxd | letterboxd.com/moviefiles/ ► Facebook | facebook.com/MovieFilesLive

[@SAPANNow]

My bet is Irving was on the phone with Regabhi. We know she's coming back from trailer footage. I really hope we see her soon.

[@raviolithedesigner3736]

Cobel is still so damn fun to HATE. She’s real and insane and angry that we dont see from any of the other villains. Played to perfection. Wanted Mark to punch her at the end.

[@Roger-il8iw]

We know Irving is investigating Lumon. Could be his boss. This is clearly an alternate universe. They all drive old cars but have new phones.

[@waitaminutewhoarrrrru]

The thing about the Helena/Helly debate is that Helena would have to have Helly's memories if she wanted to be sure the innies on the severed floor wouldn't suspect her, and I don't see how Lumon could have advanced their technology so much so fast. Last season (which was mere days ago in the show) they hadn't even cracked reintegration yet. I know they found Petey's chip and maybe they could reverse-engineer reintegration from that, but they'd also have to find a way to make sure Helena was the one in the driver's seat. And it's only been a few days. I guess it's possible it's Helena, but I really think it's Helly.

[@everythingsineffable2298]

@@waitaminutewhoarrrrru good point

[@cheetah219]

This episode felt like it was 5 mins. Insane what this show does

[@FlyGuyKai23]

Same thing my wife said. She screamed that’s it?

[@MovieFiles]

The pacing is so good

[@kasvith]

felt my innie watched it

[@AC-hj9tv]

Did you get severed

[@kangtheconqueror9545]

There were a lot of transition scenes without dialog. Kind of sped up the pace.

[@samstephan4971]

Both “fetid” and “moppet” are words that were particularly prominent in the mid 1800s and earlier. This makes the think that the “revolving” is more of a putting the og Eagan’s consciousness in the next in lines mind. Maybe that’s why helly seems so dissatisfied and has a craving for the freedom her innie has

[@megsmcra7x]

Yep I think this is it

[@AwfulLottaYea]

Yeah I don’t think it matters whether the Helly is Helena this season. Helly and Helena have more in common than either of them may know. I’m assuming their interests will become more and more aligned throughout as this season goes on

[@MovieFiles]

Great observation and I’m in same thought process with being kier back

[@francescaa8331]

👍 I'm thinking along the same lines.

[@autocosm]

I think the Kier head on a crawling baby in the new intro suggests this too

[@artistnyc123]

I love his sister she's great it's so nice to have a very levelheaded character in the storyline

[@MovieFiles]

She’s such a great character

[@louisianimal24]

OMFG what an episode holy shit It’s crazy how last season all we wanted to care for was the innies but this season it seems like the outies storyline might shape up to be even better than the innies’ first season

[@MovieFiles]

Yeah I’m definitely looking forward to getting more with the outies

[@geneinkc]

I have a small theory about Dylan. I think he has anxiety about work in general, and it causes him to have trouble getting and keeping a job. I think he got severed because the idea of a job that won’t give him anxiety appeals to him. This provides an interesting contrast to his innie, who has an overwhelming amount of confidence on the job.

[@extraterrestrialcontent]

I like the theory that Dylan got severed to forget the stress of having a family

[@mshonle]

Woah, good catch on Helena’s “don’t worry about it” hand gesture!

[@kaeseheld]

I found very interesting that in the elevator staggered scene . Everyone ( mark , Dylan , Irvin ) stepped into the elevator , the door closed and you heard a clear “ding” maybe indicating the chip being activated . Then Helena stepps into the elevator and there is no “ding” . That for me 100% secured it that she is no inni .

[@MovieFiles]

Definitely suspicious

[@shiitakehappens6194]

I thought the same. When they didn’t show her descent and face change it told me what I need to know

[@BitchMobWorldwide]

Someone also pointed out that in episode 1 the elevator sound for Mark, Dylan, and Irv are a deeper note, but when Helly (Helena) arrives it’s a higher pitched note.

[@shaexcx24]

She looked TERRIFIED. I wonder if she’s the only one that knows she’s down there

[@brendielahooha]

@@kaeseheld Thats what I said! It has to be Helena! Though some people dont agree, some are pointibg out that it is maybe even too obvious its Helena that they will probably do some kind of twist

[@gjames6366]

I feel like the pineapple comment she made had more to play off of then people are making it. As if there were something in the food along with the water and soap, etc. But the fact that they brought a pineapple to everybody’s house in the winter time says something

[@charlieneely2859]

3 years waiting well spent. Every second is filled with detail. Only 1 episode per week makes it all perfect.

[@artistnyc123]

A few weeks back I commented on Lower's Instagram page that she has the coolest strut of any woman on earth. Not having any idea that we were going to see such a long walk in this episode. She truly has the coolest strut. I'm glad to see it's not just me who thinks so

[@OgotuMusic]

something I haven’t heard anyone mention is that Cobel being assigned to ‘Severance Advisory Council’ (literally SAC) shows she is essentially sackes from the severed floor

[@amberjulia123]

Did no one catch how when Mark was going off on his sister - he revealed that he had to identify his wife’s BURNED remains?! This means that if Lumon was involved and wanted Gemma, they easily could have just kidnapped her and staged a car accident with some other random burned body.

[@MovieFiles]

That’s a great observation and I will definitely bring this up on the next theory video

[@andreadaniel8792]

Yeah! That was some good detail.

[@silosara]

Dylan’s “you poor up there” comment he made to Irving was a foreshadow to his outie life. 😅

[@MovieFiles]

😂

[@SC-RGX7]

It's absolutely torturous waiting each week for the episodes to drop.

[@CrankSick]

I don’t think Helena is jealous of Helly and her budding relationship with Mark. I think Helena was rubbing her neck angry at Helly for trying to hurt her by strangling herself and now seeing that Helly cares about something has found a way to get back at Helly for it. She’s going to mess it up. Helena told Helly that if she tried to harm herself again she was going to make her pay for it dearly.

[@jakeiteasy1]

Did you see the part where she rewound and rewatched the kiss 4 times? And later, when she watches mark through the glass? I think that as an Eagan she’s gone most of her life without real human connection, and she’s now jealous that her innie gets to experience that first with mark. Hence why she would choose to go down to the severed floor without switching to her work personage

[@MovieFiles]

We’ll see

[@zltakc]

i also think shes intrigued and shocked at it like imagine watching footage of "yourself" like that knowing its your body lol reminds me of the good place where they had those tapes of eleanor and chidi getting together in most of the life times they lived, that would feel weird as hell to see

[@Kassie0ate0a0cow]

I wonder if this means a shift for Helena’s character, because in the first season she says Helly is not a person. However she says her innie is human.

[@MovieFiles]

Good point

[@Roger-il8iw]

We know she meets mark from the trailer. I think she may become a good guy.

[@francescaa8331]

I think she feels trapped in her life. I don't think she likes her own future, is going to sympathize with the innies.

[@louisesedwards3645]

Does anyone feel a Severance junkie. As soon as the episode ends I feel the withdrawals starting!

[@LampDoesVideogame]

Bro, that elevator scene was SUCH. A. BLUEBALL. I have never felt my expectations so subverted than when they just DIDN'T GIVE US THAT REVEAL.

[@CupcakeOrStars]

I just finished it. I feel your pain 😖 like they didn’t even play the transition sound they gave us NOTHING

[@viis]

The elevator didn’t ding for Helena, hinting that she didn’t switch over to Helly

[@MovieFiles]

Definitely will be discussing that more soon

[@AC-hj9tv]

Can confirm my balls are blue

[@AC-hj9tv]

Can confirm. My balls are still blue

[@boblangford81]

I love how all the electronics in the office, all the company cars are retro to avoid modern technology such as the internet.

[@MovieFiles]

Yeah it’s meant to help the employees stay focused

[@andreadaniel8792]

Yeah. I tried to see the year on the news paper that Milcheck shows Mark, and it looks like 1983. But I don’t think there were cell phones in ‘83, and Mark & Dylan have cell phones. Hmm…

[@brendielahooha]

IT WAS HELENA. That scene they give a lot of focus to the elevator lights and dings. After going in the elevator, the green light turns red and it “dings” symbolizing that they turned into the INNIE. But when Helena went in the elevator IT DID NOT DING. It IS HELENA.

[@brendielahooha]

Watch again and notice the pattern. The camera even stays a while at the silent elevator after she leaves SO YOU CAN NOTICE IT DOES NOT DING!

[@LampDoesVideogame]

If you want to go that far, the only person it actually made the "severed change" sound for was Mark. No one else.

[@MovieFiles]

Will definitely have to discuss this more

[@brendielahooha]

@@LampDoesVideogame No. it made the ding clearly for all three of them. Except Helenas turn. On hers you just hear silence and the elevator engines of it going down. No ding. Like, you dont see the light change on Dylan and Irv but you HEAR it. Just watch it again, you will notice that they give a lot of focus to the pattern. Its like a pattern. Clothes, badge, card in slot, enter elevator, close dors, ding. It repeats this pattern 4 times, except the last time it is incomplete. NO DING

[@sverrg]

Wow, Drummond is actually a famous Icelandic actor called Ólafur Darri. Can't wait to see more him in this role

[@d4l3d]

Glad someone else noticed this. It would be an insult (but a well paid one) if this role doesn't broaden.

[@MovieFiles]

I’m very excited to learn more about him

[@DallasCrane]

He’s like an anti-Ricken

[@emeowmoew]

I remember him in secret life of Walter Mitty! (By Ben stiller!)

[@AC-hj9tv]

​@@DallasCraneanti Rick and Morty

[@neecysmith7119]

Elliott, you are nuts! Why is your head in the balloon? Anyway, great episode and great review as always. I'm all in! I don't believe we've seen the last of the new hires and something is up with 5x. Great work!

[@MovieFiles]

The photo in the balloon was taken for my first day at Lumon lol

[@Bren]

Maybe Helena is reintegrated so it’s BOTH Helena and Helly down there…

[@LM-zp7fb]

Mr Drummond looks like he could be related to Mark's brother inlaw

[@MovieFiles]

There’s a similarity for sure

[@zozeeb]

Just some thoughts I had after processing the episode! I thought it was really interesting how we got that small moment of Mark FINALLY replacing the light in his apartment when lighting is a huge part of this show- (wonderful writing that the outies are totally “kept in the dark” on everything that has to do with a solid 50%, or arguably more, of their lives, only having time to exist as outies when it’s dark outside, post work hours. Not to mention “Kier” being a translation for ‘dark’ and “Lumon” for ‘light’). I might be reading into it, but I thought it could metaphorical that since Mark has decided to quit, he’s going to start moving on and feeling his grief for Gemma. Fixing those dead bulbs. Milcheck’s dialogue following interrupting Mark’s task of replacing the bulb made it all the more interesting: when asking about his happiness, and mentioning that “it’ll make it’s way up” from Mark’s innie after directly confronting Mark about his grief, it’s clear that Lumon wants to keep him in the dark, down in the basement, and that Mark is central to ‘Ms. Casey’s’ file. Can’t wait to see why her file is so important and if the theories on resurrecting Kier himself are true! A phenomenal show!!

[@iangill5784]

The light bulb change perplexed me too. It is no accident that he is changing it at that point but why? Your assessment may be correct but it is clearly also a reference to earlier in S01 when Mrs Selvig comments on it.

[@MovieFiles]

That’s a phenomenal observation zee

[@BLessed758]

Very interesting observation about Ricken and his friends . Rewatching season one I’m noticing in the scene where they’re all kind of grilling Mark about Lumon, there’s a wide shot of all their water glasses on the table in front of them being full to identical measures … as if to imply they are all the same , or somehow a part of the same club … Lumon ambassadors perhaps?

[@AnthonyMunguia]

Mark said that he identified the body and said if Ricken burned he would feel sad etc. (i think this implies that she died burned in the car crash) which could explain how Lumon managed to swap bodies or something

[@MovieFiles]

Good catch

[@AnthonyMunguia]

@ yooo i just noticed that in S1E9 at the 11:50 minute mark you can see the creator of the show making a cameo. Holy shit

[@hbeachley]

Helena and Helena are both very tough women. It’s definitely a core personality trait.

[@secretpoo]

Solid breakdown. You noticed a lot of the little nuances I missed. Thank you for making this! Liked and subscribed ✔

[@MovieFiles]

Thank you so much for the kind words and for the sub! Welcome to the community ❤

[@Onechance_ngl]

They did a great job of connecting in and out. I can’t care about one and not the other and I think that means the writers did their job very well. It’s a compelling show for sure.

[@mzmendy]

Now I see why Dylan isn't getting his full props for being a Muscle Man with the Strength of 2 Men! Yes he held that position on this switches for 39 ENTIRE minutes! And he would have given them more time if MilkShake hadn't cut through his favorite belt and tackled him!

[@user-iu4ws6vh5s]

I think the existence of the overtime contingency is proof that the innie / outie boundaries can be controlled. So Helena (posing as Hellie) can return to the severed floor to collect data on the others . I think Helena is emotionally cold (remember the way she spoke to herself after her innie’s attempted suicide?) so I think she’s only mildly amused by Hellie’s romance with Mark. It remains to be seen if her character will evolve this season and merge with Hellie’s innie personality. For now I think, her objective is the same: Kier and her father’s approval and Lumen’s continuation.

[@KriticalThinker137]

So smart, so comprehensive. I love your recaps/reviews.

[@MovieFiles]

Really appreciate the kind words and supporting the video ❤

[@EleaticStranger]

Good discussion, TY. I'm really liking S2. I had thought that the writers painted themselves into a corner at the end of S1, but I really like the direction it's going in S2.

[@lindenbiwer48]

Something has to happen with that apology right? Milchik told mark and the sister that it was the overtime protocol but basically told everyone else it was because she was drunk, it wouldn't make sense that they wouldn't put the 2 together

[@MovieFiles]

They need Mark to complete cold harbor

[@paulclementyonkers4604]

15:10 You bring up an interesting point regarding the closeup of Helena's eye. In the closeup, we see her pupil isn't very big...if she were feeling romantic at the sight of the kiss, her pupils would have dilated: clearly not the case. So she is more curious than enamored at the sight the two innies kissing.

[@MovieFiles]

Good observation

[@moonlike19]

I think Mark died in the accident and he is the first one who has been allowed to go and live outside the severed floor

[@MovieFiles]

That’s very interesting 🤔

[@Charmask_creation]

Nahhhh I don't think so

[@AC-hj9tv]

No

[@waanaabe-4795]

@@Charmask_creation Devon would know

[@moonlike19]

@@waanaabe-4795you don’t know what you are not told, Devon doesn’t know about Gemma.

[@FrankHavok316]

26:40 the elevator did the little noise (ding) for all the other members except for Helena

[@SaiScribbles]

10:22 Helena seems to smile too big in some kind of duper's delight when she doesn't really believe what she's saying.

[@MovieFiles]

Definitely

[@exzisd]

Also notice the strange cycle between every single character moving up and having very similar occurrences happen from season 1 with slight variations while being clear call backs connecting to s1. Ok I’m done, this show has got me hyped af. I can’t help it! I wish I could pay for the whole season rn.

[@ebonihinton2809]

lol great episode even though I was looking forward to seeing Ms. Huang😩😭😭🤣🤣 That young lady is talented and great for this show. Lol

[@emmawatson1484]

Great episode, but left us with so many questions haha

[@MovieFiles]

🤣 it’s only going to get crazier

[@mzmendy]

I'm a character, so I was a fan of the USA channel for a good chunk of time. I wonder if the pineapples are a wink to the show Psych on a meta level.

[@iangill5784]

I don’t think it’s a big secret that Dan Erickson’s innie worked for a door company when he was developing the idea for Severance. 😁

[@Scroteydada]

One thing I’ve not seen brought up is how strange it is that the first functioning model of what would become the brain chip had lights on it. Suggesting it worked outside the body as maybe a collar or ankle bracelet - and all moving it to the brain did was make it permanent.

[@markuslanggeng]

Helena really did the youtuber sigh at the emd of the apology lmfao

[@MovieFiles]

😂

[@thedivinemessenger]

MAN THIS SHOW CRAZYYYY 😩😩😩🔥🔥🔥

[@MovieFiles]

Best show on tv 📺

[@PapiJoJoe]

@@MovieFilesEASILY!!!

[@exzisd]

I need days if not weeks to break down these episodes but I’m making connections in my severed brain the whole way through. I can’t stop thinking about this dang show, I watched season 1 nearly 7 times through! I have Severance Fever! Anyways I appreciate the breakdowns to hear what others thought and see what perspectives and details I may not have picked up on or to verify the things I did. Can’t wait for season 3, 4, 5, 6, 7…we might be on season 5 right now. What if the last 3 years they were just filming and bluffed about the delay. I have some evidence for this from interviews with some new characters who claim to have filmed their s2 debuts in 2020 which is odd.

[@MovieFiles]

You are definitely not alone! I watch multiple times as well and catch something new every time.

[@sticky4158]

Sidelining 101: stick them on a pointless committee...

[@PapiJoJoe]

It was about 2:30 in the morning in a pitch black room watching this episode. And let me tell yall, the scream I almost let out when Cobel tried to run over Mark 😨😳😅

[@MovieFiles]

😂

[@gamerkazin15]

This was an amazing breakdown. Thanks

[@MovieFiles]

Really appreciate it!

[@LeesaLilHop]

Yall better like every one of this mans videos. I need it.

[@MovieFiles]

I appreciate you 👏🏾

[@warrick3w881]

Maybe its nothing but it stood out to me that the security guard only speaks to Mark. He greats him as if he is happy to see him but he says nothing to the others. And there was no "ding" when Helly entered the elevator

[@exzisd]

The basic theory about Mark’s fishes goes along with the basic color theory of the show AND The Matrix. He has to Beta fish which need to be divided because they will kill each other if not. One is red (like the red pill) and represents the truth and one is blue representing sleep, dreams, lies, and delusions which may be easier to stomach. This color theory is seen all throughout the show including Hellies earrings from s1 and into s2 especially with Season 1 finale into season 2 ep 1 & 2 where her earrings change colors on the same night she spoke to friends of Lumon and also she has different earrings which as blue and briefly but specifically highlighted for a moment in the new Break Room. Helly is severed in her own way even if her chip was all a publicity stunt. She’s tied to her family and must do what they say or die/suffer or she can embrace being “severed” and try to find love with someone who won’t know she exists the majority of the time. I’m excited to see what develops between her and Mark as well as the rest. She’s in a moral quandary where there’s no clear right decision. She’s clearly in power but also under more control. Her feelings for Mark and MDR maybe genuine but she’s tasked as being a spy at a threat implanted deep in her memory.

[@MovieFiles]

Very interesting

[@rika7625]

Great observations. In the opening credits Mark is dressed in red as his outtie and what appears to be a blue (or black) suit as his innie. They seem to be in a battle with each other too.

[@tanderson1368]

Watched about 5 reviews prior to this so far but I really enjoyed yours! Love the edit of this video too! You really put in work 🔥 New subbie 📍

[@MovieFiles]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. Welcome to the community and looking forward to seeing your name more in the comments of future severance videos.

[@ANALOUEMMA]

Thoughts on first watch: -Plot twist : Helena falls in love with Marks innie -What the heck do you make about Rebecks comment about not punishing the baby because it wasn’t “it’s” fault? What!?? This means something for sure -Irving is the creator of all the artwork on the severed floor. -The town of Kier is not an ordinary place but an elaborate experiment where all residents are/were part of some Lumon experiment -Lumon might exist in a parallel universe-a reality where Kier, PE resides in a unique political entity within a world of 206 countries.

[@MovieFiles]

A lot of incredible theories and I’ll make sure to mention them in my next theory video

[@Viscro]

I'm pretty sure some things are just there to add to the weirdness of it all. It also fits into how Rebeck was introduced in season 1.

[@andreadaniel8792]

The part about the baby… I found the friend’s comment interesting, but chalked it up to Reiken’s (sp?) friend’s just being weird. BUT also, I noticed in the kitchen scene, you never see the baby’s face. Devon is holding the baby, she passes the baby to her husband, you see the form of the baby, but they don’t show the face. That was kinda strange to me.🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ajtheronin]

It is very interesting that only Mark and Helena greet the security guard when they arrive. It is a small detail but it is a small politeness that both share even when they don't know each other.

[@MovieFiles]

Good catch

[@401felix]

Was it me or did it seem Irving acted a lot like innie Irving when he said “oh god what did I eat in there”. It seemed like he was trying to put on a front and be nice, gives more credit that innies and outties are more tied in personalities.

[@401felix]

Also is it me or does that guard and Ricken look very similar, just me?

[@moonlike19]

I think Irving is glitching, I think he gets flashbacks when he is outside

[@MovieFiles]

Should he be experiencing what petey did?

[@waanaabe-4795]

No I think he was being VERY clever there with that answer... trying to lighting the mood away from deeper questions

[@benjaminjenkins394]

I’m starting to think that outtie Irving is a huge part of the resistance movement. He seemed very aware of Milchick’s bullshit and went as far as lying about his innie’s whereabouts. Like if he were really down with Lumon he would have disclosed that information w/out hesitation. I would even go so far as to saying that Irving may in fact be the leader of a resistance cell and funds the movement as well. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Just my take.

[@queenp4578]

I feel they implanted mark way before he thought he was. And that accident was a memory they implanted

[@MovieFiles]

But what about the people like his sister s acknowledging her death?

[@benjaminjenkins394]

I’m afraid that you all are humanizing Helena a bit too much and or too soon. Helena has only shown us that she is cold, calloused, and manipulative. She isn’t jealous, she’s not going to fall in love with Mark, she is one of the cult leaders…she serves Kier and all that entails.

[@MovieFiles]

I thought we saw more of a vulnerability to the character in this episode

[@andreadaniel8792]

In this epi, Helena seemed to be the one in control of the Lumon administration, calling the shots of sorts. And when she’s told she has to go back to the team as Helly, I sensed a bit of resistance, maybe? I’m not sure she really wanted to go back, like she prefers her commanding nature in the above ground Lumon world. Just a thought.

[@extraterrestrialcontent]

The “arm rash” is referencing the cut she got from her innie cutting her arm on the glass

[@pmbuthia4210]

I am surprised Milchick could hold back his thoughts on Ricken's Novel. I was hoping he would sneak in a backhanded compliment once he saw it on the table

[@MovieFiles]

That would’ve been funny

[@ianw0ng]

personally i dont think the show has given us any reason for helli being helena. people are hinging it on the lie, the computer button, and now the elevator ding.. all these can be easily reasoned away. watch her in ep1 when she said "mushy" or when she talked about how she didnt owe her outtie shit. she said it with disdain for her outtie. she had a tiny spirited outburst there. that's helli. also, lumon needs mark to finish the project cold harbor. that's top priority. to achieve that, drummond said the board needs "Helly R" to be back, because mark wants her back. and when drummond said her name you can see his sympathy for her, followed by helena's resignation to the board's order. switching helly with helena does not serve the project's interest.

[@iangill5784]

“Also, Lumon needs Mark to finish the project Cold Harbor”. Surely that’s the point? If it was Helly R then she could hinder the project completion by persuading Mark to sabotage it in some way. They need Helena there pretending to be Helly to ensure Mark can be convinced that finishing the project is the right thing to do.

[@ianw0ng]

except in ep1 helly already said to mark she will help find out what happened to his wife. you also forgot that helly helped to reach the team's quota in season 1. are we now to assume helena can also do helly's job? helly just needs to be helly for mark.. she will make him be at ease and thus efficient behind his desk, despite his occasional wanderings.

[@iangill5784]

@@ianw0ngBut look, Helly R needs to know why she’s there (on the severance floor) and that is to make sure Mark steers the project to completion. She can only do that if she is Helena - IMO 😀 We shall see, eventually…….

[@ianw0ng]

​@@iangill5784 yea i heard there's a big reveal in ep4. maybe we'll know for sure then. cheers!

[@mamam5315]

Helena is certainly not aware of the very dark side of Lumon's activities. She must also be a victim of Lumon's lies. I remember in season 1, episode 1 and 2, when she had joined the team and she found herself several times in front of the exit door because her innie wanted to leave the building... She then wondered if she rejected her integration. But Milchich was forced to lie to her, not to scare her and make her want to go back... I also think that all the rearrangements, supposedly made for the innies, were made for her to hide the dark sides of Lumon . The break room is no longer what it was and Milchich has radically changed the way he treats innies. I think, it is mainly because his/the boss is there. I even think that Helena's integration among innies will be a great help, not only for Mark and friends who are looking for answers and the truth, but also for Helena who is obeying a protocol without knowing the meaning and consequences of of all this...

[@Roger-il8iw]

Told y’all that Helena wasn’t spying. It’s definitely Helly r.

[@MovieFiles]

I don’t know, the elevator not making the ding for her but the others is interesting

[@timmytimmyturner1]

Dude she literally says “we are not the same” to mark in episode 1. It can’t get much more clear than that. Unless I’ve been played

[@Roger-il8iw]

@ she’s showing genuine hate for Helena and genuine affection for mark. She also makes up a dumb story, proving she’s definitely not Helena.

[@codeknox4632]

Are you even watching the same show bro?

[@DavidBucuco]

​@@Roger-il8iwshe's doing the exact opposite she couldn't even fully hug Mark and snapped at him when he said they were the same, also when they turn on their computers during first ep they automatically go for the button and she struggles like she's not sure...Helley R. wouldn't struggles cause she's worked there for quite a bit

[@henrysarson7417]

A part of me wants to re watch the episodes in chronological order

[@MovieFiles]

Yeah I rewatched leading into this new season

[@henrysarson7417]

@@MovieFilesI worded it poorly I mean watching these two new episodes of season 2 in chronological order.

[@andreadaniel8792]

I think I know what you mean. Like epi 2 fills in some of the blanks in epi 1.🙃

[@exzisd]

With Dylan going to a place called “Great Doors” it is such a play on words on top of when one door closes another one opens. In this case it sounds like several doors have closed for Dylan and based on his short term employment sounds like he took severance to support his family bc he couldn’t do it…BUT “Great Doors” is like removing “The Great Outdoors” and meaning it’s an in door job (in several layers - inside, making doors, big opportunity, etc). I found the professional kickball comment odd and it made me think of the red ball game from MDR. There’s also many layers as to why his Severance could prevent him from employment including an inability to hold a job without control as well as Lumon keeping tabs on “fired” workers. They are imbedded in the politics of the place they live and clearly control a ton like Proctor & Gamble and Apple combined into a company that controls information globally. Man I could rant endlessly about this and would love to chop it up in a discussion podcast but this comment is already long and I tapped it all out letter by letter on my iPad. Nice recap and analysis. Oh last note: when Dylan is in his old van after his failed interview at Great Doors you can definitely here the OLD iPhone lock/unlock sound which is a distinct nod to Apple (the creators of the show) as well as throwing a wrench in the time theories ans chronology especially matched up against all the old terminal computers and jank cash for clunkers cars parked outside Lumon.

[@MovieFiles]

Incredible observations my friend

[@jillbachelder924]

Great analysis!! I’m curious, what do you guys thing happened during the blackout (after mark s. makes contact with the board)? To me that seemed significant but I don’t know what to make of it

[@MovieFiles]

When Milchick sent him home?

[@exzisd]

Why do they always hide the faces of the babies? What is the severed logic? I still don’t think severed people ever leave work unless their whole families are dead or they decide to leave their families.

[@MovieFiles]

That’s interesting 🤔

[@garyseven777]

So did anyone else notice the impossible view from Mark’s window in the reflection? Aerial view of the Lumon Building? Mmm

[@MovieFiles]

He lives in Lumon housing which isn’t far from the building.

[@exzisd]

What part of the episode? I know in season 1 when they showed the tilt shift overhead shots of the neighborhood they revealed a large graveyard immediately next to the house which has furthered the “living dead” theories.

[@KeithA-c8v]

The traffic circle like area in Mark's complex. (above shot )is also the lumon logo "drop" like the pins they wear.

[@KeithA-c8v]

@@MovieFiles fun fact, the Lumon building, aka Bell Works in real life. Was a in development housing that surrounded the building like a circle. We're talking massive though like 4 connected neighborhoods. When this building was chosen as Lumon, it would of been pretty freshly completed. prior, the area was woods and like a dirt lot. So it's a cool parallel to real life. if you worked there you could drive all of 2 min and be in a development where you live without ever really leaving the property.

[@KeithA-c8v]

wasn't a aerial, mark lives in a mountain esq area by season 1's settings. freeze framing and knowing the building in real life. We see the water tower, the entrance road and building. it's only slightly elevated. the water tower in real life stands maybe 100 foot tall or so? in the shot the top of the water tower is only slightly pitched. so marks prob 30 min away up a mountain judging by the pitch.

[@KeithA-c8v]

As someone who worked in the Lumon building in real life for multiple years and while season 2 filmed. It's def surreal to see what parts were used and what was CGI. Something that might be in your next video that was skipped. In the new "intro" marks car is in the icy lake as if he crashed. I wonder if this is foreshadowing about marks wife or him.

[@amirshayanmoghtaderi5840]

The car was Cobbel's not Mark

[@MovieFiles]

That’s awesome and yes I do mention the car in my breakdown of the new intro

[@timmcneil6966]

I like how milchick called everyone by their last name

[@sifuweber1478]

Felt like a tear almost happened on Milcheck after firing Dillion.

[@MovieFiles]

I didn’t catch that

[@samsaek666]

I think milkshake firing Dylan was essentially just firing him for biting him (him being the aggressor). It’s not that much of a stretch. For Irv he’s being fired for being a rebellious baddie. That’s why everyone gets a different excuse. They could’ve easily just told everyone “poor performance” lol it’s not like they know what the hell is going on

[@MovieFiles]

Yeah it’s crazy that they would never know the truth

[@manuelrojas7843]

How did you have this up so fast wtf

[@MovieFiles]

Thank my innie for working overtime

[@InfiniteUmbra]

You missed that elevators dinging for everyone but Helena as the elevator closed.

[@MovieFiles]

Definitely a topic for my next video 👍🏾

[@grasking]

In season one episodes 1&2 when Helly goes through the exit door she reverts back to Helena and vice versa. There is no ding. The ding doesn't matter.

[@KeithA-c8v]

I just put something else together. they say should i fire them? follow Keir, the painting says "Keir pardons his betrayer's" the painting in season 1 basically jabs at the innies. Even Dillon stepping off the elevator says "I wasn't sure I was coming back" that hints at him being fired. Heli is a weird one, the only subtle nod, is that her music changes stepping on the elevator. if you rewind, we only get to see the clock at dillion and mark's check in and a minute elapses between that time. we don't get to see time at all when Irving or Heli gets in the elevator. While assumed, we don't actually know what time we are watching everyone check into work. it might not be day 1.

[@UncleOpey801]

The entire town is severed that’s why the older vehicles.

[@UncleOpey801]

That’s why pips the restaurant

[@craiggoodman7]

Fantastic breakdown! Thank you.

[@MovieFiles]

Thank you so much Craig!

[@sol1angel]

28:17 oooh I like that idea 💡

[@easyxyg]

That actually might be it, also gives merit to the intro having cobel car in water.

[@MovieFiles]

Appreciate it

[@TimeTravelingBunnis]

Mark Scout can be such a jerk, I forgot from season 1.

[@MovieFiles]

🤣 he’s grieving still

[@TimeTravelingBunnis]

@@MovieFiles Of Course. I feel like hes pretty unfair with Devon though. Come on, Mark Scout.

[@AC-hj9tv]

He's neurodivergent

[@masteragency5239]

Howww??? How do you see them early? They are scheduled for Friday and everyone starts posting on Wednesday...

[@MovieFiles]

Every single episode for every apple shoe releases Thursday night at 8pm ct

[@petezess]

Helena did not take off her watch. Her elevator did not ding.

[@MichelKok]

Now way it was only a weekend. Now way they made that whole stop motion Lumon animation in a weekend.

[@samsaek666]

The Eagan bodyguard man looks exactly like RICKEN. Is there something there?

[@MovieFiles]

I can see a little resemblance

[@megsmcra7x]

I think Helena is alone and yearns for freedom from her duties as an Eagan and likes to see an alternate version of her life while staying loyal to her company. I think it is Helly in the first episode since she showed a lot of empathy with the group, asking about them and if they were okay and noticing what was different. I just think she doesn't want them to know who she is because they wouldn't trust her. She sees her outie as a villain and repulses her for what she did and what her family created. She also seemed genuinely jealous of Mark and his wife, and genuinely angry about not owing their outies shit. If it had been a jealous Helena, she would've pursued Mark and deflected the Gemma topic and made him get back to work or something. I don't know, I just think sending Helena would be too risky. They would know it wasn't Helly and Helena herself knows that. There's also no point in sending her since they're recording everything they do and say.

[@MovieFiles]

Yeah Helena definitely seems jealous of her innies life

[@unstablepoker330]

He's a fan of innie mark because he read and praised his book

[@exzisd]

When Devon talks to Mark in the diner she asks what his “innie meant” confirmed by closed captions but they 100% meant it to sound like “intimate” to add further confusion to the bizarre sexual sibling tension between them. Worth note that in season 1 when Irving is reading the handbook at the party you can clearly read a page that says Kier was the product of incest and that may have been part of his motivation for getting into medications - this is also reflected in the artwork of the man stirring a pot of red liquid as a woman looks on nearby him.

[@CrankSick]

Or inmate?

[@MovieFiles]

I hope not lol

[@jakeiteasy1]

Bizarre sexual sibling tension??? What show are you watching bro

[@moonlike19]

Was that a huge mansion Dylan was living in that they showed from above?

[@nobodyexceptme7794]

Oh snap ol girl from Nurse Jackie gonna show up? She was great ik that show. So glad i jumped on this show just before season 2.

[@MovieFiles]

Yeah she’s such a good actor

[@kiaj9117]

Helena definitely jealous her inner self is fearless not doing what is told

[@mzmendy]

I didn't recognize Zoe's voice! But she's a good fit for this kinda show. Based on the things I've seen her in, she's just good in the roles she plays. Kinda like Character Actress Margo Martindale. Merritt Weaver is a good character actor.

[@boblangford81]

I think Mark was driving and hit Miss Sobel which killed her granddaughter, and is why she said Mark must be punished. They grabbed his wife made it look like she was killed, etc. Something along those lines.

[@MovieFiles]

Granddaughter?

[@grazitamuller9802]

Who is Peggy?? 🤔

[@MovieFiles]

The main character from the Lexington letter that Ben stiller wrote as canon to the show

[@nicdude21]

This episode was incredible!!!

[@MovieFiles]

Agreed

[@producer-topic3737]

i just love this show

[@MovieFiles]

It’s incredible

[@pip3rcat]

Devon mvp

[@MovieFiles]

Agreed

[@jmarquiso]

The name Ricken sounds like an Eagan, as does the odd way he speaks. Would the baby be an Eagan then? What about severence during childbirth?