SEX PISTOLS & PUNK Famous Sites in London's Soho. PART 1.

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@richardfowler5163
@richardfowler5163 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video yet again. Thank you. I could have sworn that the strip club they played in was called El Paradiso and not Paradise. But you pulled up the old picture. Oh to be at those early gigs. We need a time machine. I would definitely go back. Nostalgia is such a pain. I've been reading a few Melody Maker magazines from back in the day and it seems to me the Pistols only got real famous on the World Stage AFTER they broke up. Even 1977 Melody Makers have very little coverage of the band. They have a couple of front pagers but not enough. Sex Pistols were game changers, a myth and instigators of changing minds and culture. They were the only band that mattered if you look back on it. Yes Bernie Rhodes and Malcolm had a vision, but the band themselves tried and nailed it. There is no better album than Never Mind the Bollocks. Every song is perfect and still stands up even more so today.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Richard! Wow, you said it perfectly. They were the only band that mattered. I have old NMEs and I noticed the same thing. They got some coverage, but not much. Someone like Paul McCartney or Bob Dylan got much more. I thought it was the El Paradiso too, but I think the confusion is that they did play a place with that name, but it was in Europe somewhere - maybe Amsterdam. Not many sex places left in Soho. I remember walking Soho in 1978-1980 and it was full of them. Thanks again!
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 3 ай бұрын
Melody Maker hated them. It was aimed at lovers of dinosaur bands and mainstream rock. Sounds was probably the most pro punk. NME was somewhere in between.
@mauricerevelle8451
@mauricerevelle8451 3 ай бұрын
Love it. Times I asked my sister Chrissy which venue she saw The Pistols and she always says, “Could’ve been Roxy, Nashville, 100 club, Ronnie Scotts, can’t remember exactly..” she reckons the more I’ve asked the more she can’t remember..I wish I was the first one born, not fair..😎 On another note, my dad was a Teddy Boy and he used to frequent the clubs n coffee bars around soho late 50s. 3 of us have haunted the place at different stages n times. Met great people, saw great bands. Cherished for forever. Love from North London ❤️
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! How can your sister not remember what venue? (They didn't play at the Roxy or Ronnie Scotts). I think the most frequent place they played was the 100 Club. I'll include that in my next video. Your dad must have gone to Bar Italia. I love that place - popular with the Mods and Teds - and went there a couple of times on my recent visit. Soho is still wonderful. Not the same, but I still love it.
@gilramirez1373
@gilramirez1373 3 ай бұрын
Remember 1976 was the hottest year in UK/ London!! I was 6 years old.
@storkythepunk
@storkythepunk 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great video.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@andybiddle9088
@andybiddle9088 3 ай бұрын
Another great video Maggie. It cool that The Cambridge still looks the same and Notre Dame Halls.... El Paradise is unrecognisable, but if you look up, they kept the same sash windows. Even though I only live 20 miles from London and have visited, or just walked past these places many times, your videos are great and it's good to see this history from the comfort of my armchair! 😀 Take care 🇬🇧
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, Thanks for watching again! I really appreciate it. Did you go to any of the Frank Carter shows? Just curious. Yes, Soho has changed a lot but I still love it. Still a busy and vibrant place. I'm glad some of the pubs are still there, like The Cambridge and The Ship. There used to be many more sex places back in the 70's. Now there are only a handful at most.
@andybiddle9088
@andybiddle9088 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces I love Soho too, such a great place. Unfortunately didn't get to see the Pistols at Bush Hall as the tickers sold out in a flash. But, I'm going to see them on 26th September at The Forum. I can't wait! Frank comes from the same town as me, about 20 miles north west of London.
@bas4241
@bas4241 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again for an enjoyable and interesting video!
@allsorts9909
@allsorts9909 3 ай бұрын
Another great video. I lived round the corner from the Roxy in the 90s. Great to see what these old venues are now as I left London 26 years ago..Hoping to do a quick visit in the next few weeks. I love it around Covent Garden,soho,Charing x road etc Always feels alive
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Wow, you lived in a great area! I was out in Kilburn in the 90's. I feel alive when I'm there too. Whether it's having a pint at a pub like The Ship on Wardour St. or sipping a coffee outside of Bar Italia....Soho is still a great place.
@AndrewjWilson
@AndrewjWilson 3 ай бұрын
Great video very interesting thank you😊
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.:)
@TheMercianMetalDetecting
@TheMercianMetalDetecting 3 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video Maggie. Thanks for all your hard work showing us these places that are so important to Pistols and punk history.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! It's fun for me to do these videos. A labor of love.
@turquoisecapricorn
@turquoisecapricorn 3 ай бұрын
Again a nice tour and view on some historic buildings Maggy!I looked up Sos and in the chorus you hear indeed the guitar part that Glen adapted for the better! I came already looking today if you had a new video.And I was happy that you had uploaded later today this new video! Like a junkie looking forward for dealer Maggy to bring me my new dose of punk!
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the nice compliments! It makes me feel great and humbled to know that someone looks forward to my videos. I haven't listened to SOS in years. I'll have to listen to it and then Pretty Vacant. I like the way Glen is honest about his songwriting. I have nothing against Sid, but Glen should have never been replaced in the band, in my opinion.
@leeallsopp5152
@leeallsopp5152 3 ай бұрын
Another fantastic vid Maggie! I love the pubs around Soho and London
@michaelbradley6991
@michaelbradley6991 3 ай бұрын
Thanks maggie for another great video ❤
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
No problem 😊 Thanks for watching Michael!
@fraserb151
@fraserb151 3 ай бұрын
Great video - i have been to that cinema on Leicester Square a few times in the past and never realised the pistols had played those famous gigs just next door. Soho needs more blue plaques for punk rock locations to bring awareness. I had no idea the cambridge was an old sex pistols venue, yet i have been in there several times. I used to work in shaftesbury ave for an I.T company back in early 2000's. I have been in the Roxy in 2013 when it was a shop that sold swimwear lol. I was in there with a friend who was at gigs in the Roxy in 1977, and he showed me where the stage used to be downstairs, next to the shop tills. The thing that struck me was how small the shop was! It was hard to believe it hosted all those early punk gigs with so many famous bands from back in the day. Soho and covent garden were very different atmosphere back in the late 70s, before gentrification. Keep these great videos coming maggie. Ps - the three kings ( previously called the Nashville back in the 70s), in west kennsington is a good venue to visit. I used to watch sport events in it in the early 2000s. Some famous punk gigs in there, pistols etc. Also Freddie Mercury house was just round corner. Link to 3 kings below. Also hammersmith has quite a few famous locations. www.reddit.com/r/britpics/comments/ltmx4a/the_famous_three_kings_pub_in_west_kensington/ Also check out this video for its band history. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZyyZmewmr2Fi7ssi=9i7eYu30m8fC7ucN
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and thanks for the info! I should have gone inside the cafe that is now where the Roxy is located, but maybe it was closed. Yes, I have read that downstairs was small and that's where the bands played. So historic! I've never been to the old Nashville location. Maybe I'll go there next time. Joy Division also had an early gig there. That plaque where the Roxy was located doesn't look like an official London plaque btw. Not sure how those things are decided, but yes I mention it several times in various videos ..."why isn't there a plaque here?" I probably repeat that a little too much. Thanks for the links. I'll check them out!
@mikebassy
@mikebassy 3 ай бұрын
Errrr me and my mate go to mass at the Norte dame sometimes and sometimes it’s in French ha ha . Although we can’t speak French . Doesn’t matter . But that pub right next the Cambridge is The Spice of life . Sid and Nancy were in there , they have photos of them in that pub . On Tuesday evenings not too many years ago you would see Steve diggle ? The guitar guy from the Buzzcocks , him and that guy Mark ? Who wrote a book about Sid . And a few punk type people. They have gigs there downstairs , I played there loads of times
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mike! I used to go the The Spice of Life in the 80's and 90's. I love that pub. That pub and the Intrepid Fox were always full of rocknroll people. Not too many left these days! Yes, when we were there we walked through the Spice and I saw those photos and I also walked downstairs. I'm glad they still have gigs there.
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 3 ай бұрын
I think Led Zeppelin used to go in the Spice too.
@jasonaxell4920
@jasonaxell4920 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info on the Notre Dam Hall/ Leicester Sq Theatre. Been to a few comedy nights there, including seeing Ricky Gervais only a few weeks ago.
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 3 ай бұрын
20:55 Soo Catwoman sat on table at the back.
@sbendigphoto
@sbendigphoto 3 ай бұрын
thanks you should have more veiws
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Vinnieman70
@Vinnieman70 3 ай бұрын
The March 21st Gig at the notre dame hall was recorded by NBC as part of a Punk Documentary ie “Old Elizabethans”
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I just read that. Apparently, only about 50 people were in attendance. Thanks for watching and for the info!
@gilramirez1373
@gilramirez1373 3 ай бұрын
In N.East Midwest, sipping my pg tips tea & biscuits 👍
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching in the Midwest.:)
@TheeHitch
@TheeHitch 3 ай бұрын
Hi Maggie, yeah great video, they should do punk tours of London (or maybe they already do!). There was another club called The Vortex, not sure if the Pistols played there as well
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching again! There is a really good tour called The Original Punk Soho Tour. I believe it's once a week. A guy named Aiden does it and he's very knowledgeable . When I went on it, I already knew the Sex Pistols places he visits (Denmark St., 100 Club etc) but he also has other stops, like an area in Chinatown they used to have record stalls like RockOn Records. He's old enough to have gone to The Roxy in 1977 so it's a good tour. I have The Vortex in my part 2. No, I don't think the SP played there either, but I think Siouxsie did.
@paradave2484
@paradave2484 3 ай бұрын
You are very interesting I love the Pistols. I’ve served 24 years in the Army and been a closet punk for years. I wish the Pistols come up to Yorkshire
@RevStickleback
@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын
Before reforming, their last ever UK gig was in Yorkshire, in Huddersfield.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yorkshire is a beautiful place to live.
@GazBobTalks
@GazBobTalks 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos, do you know much about The Ruts? a very influential British band to American bands It seems, Henry Rollins actually fronted the band on their last ever gig.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
I really liked The Ruts. I remember that brilliant song Babylon's Burning. I don't think I saw them live unfortunately. Never knew Henry Rollins fronted their last gig. Interesting!
@GazBobTalks
@GazBobTalks 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces yeah Rollins is crazy about The Ruts.
@paulcawdrey6543
@paulcawdrey6543 3 ай бұрын
Gonna go to the Cambridge next time i go to london
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's still there. So many pubs have disappeared over the years. Have fun!
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 3 ай бұрын
10:00 at the back. Soo Catwoman & Linda Ashby.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! It might have been Glen sitting to the right of Steve, but I wasn't sure.
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 3 ай бұрын
The Pistols didn't play at the Roxy but Lydon and Vicious definitely went there. None other than Led Zeppelin were seen at a Damned gig there in early '77 and Lydon met Robert Plant then. Crass played there and got banned hence their song Banned From the Roxy.
@MariaRamirez-nq4is
@MariaRamirez-nq4is 3 ай бұрын
Kool "inside stuff" that you share👏🙌👍👌
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
Thanks honey. Allways great to watch you have extensive pistols knowledge.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mark! Thanks so much for tuning in again.:)
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces your welcome, ive been to a pub were the pistols played 1976 norfolk, only knew after getting back from a family holiday, and buying day by day sex pistols book which has every gig they played 1976- 1978 and photos, the pub is called village inn west runton norfolk area. Also i live 2 hours away from burtonon trent where they played 1976, 76 club, i also bought a bootleg there from that gig.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
​@@markgreet3543I love the Burton on Trent live album. My favorite.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces 76 club has long gone, but many locals still know the pistols played there sept 1976. First bootleg i got was live and loud which is winterland with extra cheers and been mixed sounds good, then i got burton on trent with three songs not on it, you can get cd and vinyls now with full show, stepping stone, satillite, sub mission, dave goodman rip did a great job on pistols bootlegs.
@studig
@studig 3 ай бұрын
Great video again
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@PaulJakubiak-u2p
@PaulJakubiak-u2p 3 ай бұрын
another cool video, will definitely check these out on my next trip to Londo, except for that club at 61 Poland, looks like it's a wanker
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
I didn't like the looks of it either. I was going to say something negative about it while I was standing on the street, but I like to keep my videos positive. But it's hard sometimes because things have changed so much. Thanks for watching! At least The Cambridge doesn't look like it's changed. Have a pint there.:)
@PaulJakubiak-u2p
@PaulJakubiak-u2p 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces thanks, watching your videos now religiously
@roypartridge2350
@roypartridge2350 3 ай бұрын
Hi Maggie, hope you are well. Thank you for another great vid. Never managed to get a ticket for the Bush, but have got one for 02 forum sept 26. So looking forward to it. From what I’ve seen on u tube, Frank Carter looks to be doing a great job. Thanks again for the vids. Roy x
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on getting a ticket! I would have tried if I lived in England. It's be a great experience.
@BrianMarcus-nz7cs
@BrianMarcus-nz7cs 3 ай бұрын
@@roypartridge2350 did you get a spare ticket ?? 🍺🙏👍
@roypartridge2350
@roypartridge2350 3 ай бұрын
Surprise gift from my eldest. If I had a spare you’d be more than welcome bud 🍺🍺🤘​@@BrianMarcus-nz7cs Surprise
@shureybutchers
@shureybutchers 3 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for part 2 👍
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
It's coming. Thanks for watching!
@paulmerritt5096
@paulmerritt5096 Ай бұрын
Love this channel ! I met Frank Carter at his studio recently and they're already planing dates for next year.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the compliments. I thought they'd probably do more dates. I see that Frank has "suspended" The Rattlesnakes so I'm not surprised. I'll go see them is they come near me in the US.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
Hey ❤ really good to watch, your a big pistols fan write a book?
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
No, I don't think a book is possible for me, but who knows!
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces oh you never know, i take it you have gavin walsh god save the sexpistols collector book? Or Mal sex pistols book both are superb.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces mal one, sex pistols book is called world ends, ithas amazing attention to detail well worth a read.
@BrianMarcus-nz7cs
@BrianMarcus-nz7cs 3 ай бұрын
🐤. Hey Maggie, got in the gig budd , , better than expected,,,, no fkn kin funnn ,,, 🤣👍
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
You got to see the show? How fantastic!
@BrianMarcus-nz7cs
@BrianMarcus-nz7cs 3 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces yeh waz gudd I stayed until the last show/good sound I'm sure lucky to have gone, cheers 🐦👍
@AlexanderLaurence
@AlexanderLaurence 3 ай бұрын
WIRE played at the Roxy.
@123pilpil
@123pilpil 3 ай бұрын
Wire were the first band I saw in 77 at Hammersmith odeon
@leefr76
@leefr76 3 ай бұрын
In an earlier video you said you saw and met Joy Division. Can you do a video on this, would be great to hear what it was like. Thanks
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for remembering that. Yes I will do it, probably soon, if I have to gear myself up for it because it still makes me so sad that Ian Curtis died so suddenly. That was an awful shock for the fans. I mention them in my Punk Soho Part 2 because I saw them at the Marquee. Thanks for watching my videos.:)
@belmontbutty4143
@belmontbutty4143 3 ай бұрын
Glad you included the Cambridge. Not strictly Soho as it's in Cambridge Circus. It's one of the few pubs that hasn't been ruined by gentrification. Sadly Soho is not what it was, not because I'm a dirty old man in a mac, but through the elimination of so much of the area's more interesting pubs and cafes. If you want a good pint in a decent pub, try the Old Coffee House on Beak Street. They still occasionally play the Pistols. And thanks for another great video. All the best from London town.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for commenting and enjoying the video! Soho has changed so much. I remember walking around there in the late 70's - lots of strip clubs, dirty video places, women upstairs with a sign saying "model available." Those were the days! There's still a couple of video places left and that's it. The same thing happened to 42nd street in NYC except that gentrification is actually worse because it's full of bland chain stores now. I may have walked into the Old Coffee House. That sounds familiar. I did walk into a pub near Carnaby Street that had lots of old rock photos on the walls. Even though Soho is a shadow of its former self, I still love it. I had a coffee at Bar Italia a couple of times on my trip. So glad that place is still hopping. Thanks again!
@AlexanderLaurence
@AlexanderLaurence 3 ай бұрын
People who are against the Sex Pistols have to get a life.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
I agree.👍
@RevStickleback
@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately a lot in the USA, in particular, completely swallowed McLaren's retelling of history, where he created this myth of himself as the great music industry svengali, creating a band and stage-managing everything, to the extent that many there believe they were a kind of punk version of The Monkees.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
@@RevStickleback and the uk, ignore the hype be pistol proud they are legends.
@GordonKegg-g8w
@GordonKegg-g8w 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thanks!
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@GordonKegg-g8w
@GordonKegg-g8w 2 ай бұрын
@@WhyNotGoPlaces I have a ticket for Manchester, I am really happy about that. I must visit London and locations, not been for ages.
@voxxclamantis9668
@voxxclamantis9668 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if Lydon signed off on his replacement, much like the recent miniseries reenacting sex pistol history with actors based von Glenn's book, I believe, Lydon is probably " Pissed". I think it's ok just so long as people know they take poetic license on these films. "Sid and Nancy". is one of my favorite films even though not much of it is factual only in a general sense, Lydon hates that film too.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. I think they bill it as "Frank Carter and former Sex Pistols members..." so he probably can't go after them. If they billed it as "Sex Pistols" he would probably try to sue them. That's my guess anyway. I'm sure Steve, Glen and Paul have lawyers checking everything they do live to protect themselves.
@user-gw2bm3vx4p
@user-gw2bm3vx4p 3 ай бұрын
Maggie, I enjoy your content. My only complaint is you pronounce PIL wrong in one of your other videos. It’s pronounced as pill.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! For some reason I always say "P-eye-L". I always spell the 3 letters and don't say "pill." That's just me. Either way, I love the band. :)
@gilramirez1373
@gilramirez1373 3 ай бұрын
Sept isn't that jonesys and cookies birthday days???
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
Yes sept is steve birthday.
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 3 ай бұрын
Paul cook late july.
@jamescarr7148
@jamescarr7148 3 ай бұрын
Still have negative thoughts about all this ....😂 Makes you embarrassed to wear a Sex Pistols t-shirt. Last time I saw them was in Manchester 2007 I think and they crap even with Rotten
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
I know it's weird without Lydon. I'm happy for Steve, Paul and Glen because I bet they love playing together again.
@jamescarr7148
@jamescarr7148 3 ай бұрын
Mick Jagger on vocals ? 555.
@airconditionersexposed
@airconditionersexposed 3 ай бұрын
I thought John was the coolest guy ever when I was younger, but it's obvious he is just insufferable to be around, and he seems to get worse with age. Too bad he can't mellow out a little and realize there's 3 other guys in the band and it's not all about him.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
I don't think they ever got along with him. It's so sad they don't speak at all.
@andreacolombo9441
@andreacolombo9441 3 ай бұрын
I think John lydon is a great man brilliant and very intelligent while cook and Jones although good musicians don't have much to tell and Matlock is just that old mod pensioner he was never a real punk in my opinion and sid was the ultimate fool all into that self-destructive sex and drugs and rock and roll bs and who is this "new" frontman he looks pathetic to me
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 3 ай бұрын
He's become a truly awful person! I'll leave it at that.
@mariusbabii
@mariusbabii 3 ай бұрын
if you are doing a pistols docu, why not have like a big sex pistols button on your coat or blazer, to look more punky than a preppy, you are still a punk rocker right,, i hope so,.......marius(punk rules).
@WhyNotGoPlaces
@WhyNotGoPlaces 3 ай бұрын
I have loved the band since Anarchy came out, followed them on the American tour in 1978, and I still listen to NMTB almost every day. I'll always be a fan.
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