Sexual Assaults in BJJ - Official Statement

[@karryrowe2561]

It’s not just an issue for women. It’s an issue for children as well.

[@XKenny77]

Yeah, McDojo Life is full of really awful stories. It's awful to see people who should be trusted mentors to kids turn out to be abusive creeps.

[@XKenny77]

@@burnsvaughan Sorry to hear it, man. I hope you can find somewhere you're more comfortable.

[@lobsterairsoft499]

For men too...

[@TSte18]

Yes, the more vulnerable

[@palabrajot505]

@@lobsterairsoft499 😅😅😅

[@whiskeysshoothouse632]

You see what they are saying actually works in all forms of business. If you don’t speak up it not only hurts you, but it also hurts the business as a whole. I love how they break everything down to an educational level for everyone to understand. Not that some people are stupid, but people take work of mouth differently. So they say in the easiest way possible for the viewers as a whole to understand equally. I love this channel and I respect it for everything it says. Jiu-jitsu is awesome. Helps a lot of people out of horrible situations and to hear that some instructors and owners actually care about the community more than the money they pay is just awe inspiring. Love you all. Take care god bless and stay safe , happy and healthy and most of all. Have a fantastic day.

[@kagemaru259]

Rener's such a likable guy, especially with his helping bullied kids. And I've always been a fan of Eve since her WWE days. These two were truly made for each other.

[@kotic007]

I am taking their classes - they have amazing chemistry. Also very professional.

[@daniellejansen8472]

I literally just realized that’s eve from WWE

[@imsorry8236]

I was worried when I was new. But then I realized I don’t think about gender now, only size and skill. Since then I’ve rolled with women of all body types and nationalities and have been able to make friends on and off the mat. By making this effort to include everyone I think it allows women to be comfortable. If they aren’t welcomed they won’t trust the good guys to help if something does happen. Thanks for speaking about this Rener.

[@utubepunk]

Wish I could give you a million thumbs up. This is the right mindset & attitude. 👍

[@spudyaquilina3001]

This happened in my Karate school, I trained since I was 8 and then a man started when I was 17, and it was awful, I spoke out and nothing was done, I felt alone,so I left. My karate journey was over. I'm happy to say my jiu-jitsu school are amazing and makes everyone welcome and we all help each other. It's like a family. Its not happened again but I know I can speak out and will be listened to. So glad this has been spoken about.

[@spudyaquilina3001]

@Who Cares? thank you, hasn't put me off training and it's helped me to grow. Xx

[@Shindig8889]

Thank you for addressing the power dynamic between teacher and student. My martial arts instructor always hugged the female students and for way too long. He only patted the guys on the back. It was so weird and confusing to experience that because as a kid, you’d think your teacher is someone you can trust…smh.

[@JagannadhGosala]

May be he is gay? Just saying.🤷‍♂️

[@stupidandboot4507]

@@JagannadhGosala doubt it. He'd just hug everyone the same if he was gay

[@nicelypenn]

@@stupidandboot4507 or he'd hug the men longer o:

[@KentPetersonmoney]

I think it's normal for men to hug women more than men. Don't men they are a sexual predator. Also women seem to hug men more then men.

[@robertomunoz2395]

@@JagannadhGosala You have great insight.

[@OneOuttaOne]

Any powerful tool can be used for evil. That’s just the world. Glad Gracie tries to be better.

[@paulwillis3572]

Thank you, Rener and Eve, for being such important ambassadors for Jiu-Jitsu. The culture of our CTC is so important in the BJJ community.

[@Alfahombre69]

Love you Rener.. way to be a leader brother ❤

[@LogicBob]

inorite! What an ambassador! Eve too, of course! 😘

[@SarahsSnakeShop]

Thank you for posting, Rener & Eve... I really appreciate talking about this issue. ESPECIALLY the culture. Getting rid of one person to preserve the culture and the health of the gym. I still havent decided if I will return to my gym after the person I had an issue with. I got many cold stares when I went in to talk to the gym owner. But I'm glad you're addressing issues

[@nikitaw1982]

don't roll with women. Ur rubbing private parts the whole time. if she doesn't like you cause ur not hitting on her or something then she makes up some crap. Nope, don't roll with women. nothing to gain. Mike pence rule sort of thinking

[@arthurfleck8777]

I honestly think sexual predators just try and find jobs/hobbies/places etc where they can have access to people they can prey upon. Its actually disturbing to think about. Every woman should train in BJJ and carry a weapon in my opinion. And also sexual assault against men needs to be talked about.

[@BootsofBlindingSpeed]

I understand why women want to roll/sparr with men. They're trying to simulate a real life self-defence scenario. That being said, if a woman said she didn't feel comfortable rolling/sparring with men there would be nill hesitation to accommodate her. So the same should be for men. If a man doesn't feel comfortable rolling/sparring with women, respect his space without getting political or passive-aggressive thank you.

[@imsorry8236]

I like this mindset bro.

[@utubepunk]

I'm mostly with you, but based on the comments here, it's clear too many men have shitty reasons for feeling uncomfortable.

[@d4mdcykey]

@@fiftyshadesofurban ~ Ironically you are demonstrating the precise hostile, delusional, absolutist mindset that leads to these issues. Seek counseling.

[@utubepunk]

@@d4mdcykey 100%

[@utubepunk]

@@fiftyshadesofurban No numpty. You can have legit reasons for feeling uncomfortable rolling with women. You can also have shit reasons for not rolling with women. Based on the shit you've spewed, it's clear your reasons are from a toxic mindset that keeps you from seeing women as humans.

[@aWildNelby]

Thank you guys for speaking up! It seems FloGrappling is afraid to actually take a stance on this issue and has only reposted defensive statements from certain individuals. It’s a sad situation. Thank you for bringing more attention to this.

[@rickywoods3101]

idk what happened , but I don't think we should believe everything they say because people lie..

[@vb5770]

I had a terrible experience in Rio in Atos Botafogo with the owner of the gym and the main coach (the same person). I told all story to Andrea Galvao through DM and through one of owners of Atos in Panama. But Atos never got back to me and talk to me. This guy did everything so smooth I bet I wasn’t the first who he abused. It’s all ugly and almost cost me that I would give up on BJJ.

[@shoreshidoshi]

Truly appreciate you taking the time and energy to put thistogether, address the topic head on - thank you!

[@geneharrogate6911]

Lets get it straight, sexual assault is a crime and needs to be deal with by the law, not in house. If a student has been assaulted, the solution isn't to change schools, its have the accused deal with by the authority's. And 'feelings' aren't 'truth'. There is 'the' truth, period, not your 'version' of the truth. Remember, this cuts both ways. When allegations of this nature are made, its can destroy or tarnish a persons, or indeed, a organisations reputation forever. The internet never forgets, and bad news goes viral literally at the speed of light. Some people are malicious, because they train BJJ wont change that. Any pervert / bully needs to be weeded out and dealt with in a totally transparent manner.

[@TrishCanyon8]

I didn't realize you check backgrounds of students. Thank you.

[@CawCahMilish]

Really happy to see you guys taking a stance and speaking up about this. It's really important that everyone feels empowered by bjj and we need to ensure everyone in our community is safe.

[@Sepricotaku]

See this really sucks, because usually most people who I have ever interacted with who have any martial arts background are usually very respectful controlled people.

[@jamesmma9132]

Thank you guys. We don’t need people scared to learn!

[@johnnycage2746]

Ralph Gracie wouldn't be able to instruct people with his violent conviction

[@utubepunk]

What happened? Did he assault a student?

[@mikek9297]

is it because he's only Halph Gracie ? Badum tsss...

[@johnnycage2746]

@@utubepunk 3 months in jail for elbow cheapshot at a competition

[@y200sub]

@@mikek9297 😂shots fired

[@psyience3213]

The gracies literally brag about being violent people who assault others. No rener because it's bad for business and their woke image, but they always have.

[@shoto520]

“Just don’t roll with girls”…Khabib

[@carlosrazier433]

Cool

[@mongoosekhan3079]

Firas Zahabi, coach of GSP also doesnt roll with women

[@JBrooksNYS]

I dont roll with them unless they ask me

[@dayner989]

Makes sense

[@SimonSez83]

I got banned from r/bjj for saying the exact same thing.

[@XKenny77]

I see a bunch of comments saying "just don't roll with women" and "I don't roll with women because I don't want my actions to be misconstrued." That's a mistake. You should be able to roll with anyone. My gym is pretty small, with only a handful of women. If men don't roll with them, they often can't roll at all. That's a huge problem for our highest ranked women especially, because most of the other women are white belts and wouldn't give her any kind of challenge. The second point is stupid, and says something bad about you. Everyone knows the difference between accidentally touching a woman's breast when you're putting on a seatbelt and a deliberate grope. If you're respectful the rest of the time, it's very unlikely that anyone will misconstrue that. You apologise the way you would for accidentally elbowing or clashing heads with someone and move on. Women who train know it's a close contact sport and they don't get mad about honest accidents. If you genuinely can't tell the difference as a man, you're not the kind of man who should be around women, period. If something does feel awkward though, here's a radical idea: talk to the women in your gym about it! Most will be glad you care and will happily show you where the line is. Listen to them and act accordingly. It's really not that difficult to respect women, guys.

[@sbot8158]

It can literally be a biological reaction lol. Second it's really not worth the risk/effort most of the time.

[@utubepunk]

BOOM. 100%

[@utubepunk]

@@sbot8158 Then get over your hang-ups & help a fellow BJJ practioneer.

[@Zystem_ON_KICK]

It’s just not worth the risks for me, so I prefer to not roll with females. It’s the way the world is today too many creeps that give all men a bad rap and false accusations from females that scary alot of men from even talking to them in case they get miss understood

[@sbot8158]

@@utubepunk They can find help with others ready/of the same gender. Just don't bother me cause I'm a young dude and would rather not have to deal with any awkward situations.

[@austinwiebe2648]

This isn’t just bjj. This is martial arts wide, I used to train at a Taekwondo academy that heavily abused authority, one of the high up instructors that was in charge of the entire academy had been raping students over the course of 35 years. None of the students or the lower instructors knew about it but apparently one of the victims went to the higher up instructors and told them and the higher up instructors covered it up. When this instructor was charged, the other instructors when asked about where he went just said “no comment “ or “he’s behind us” when I asked questions I was told to leave. I went to a different Taekwondo school that told me everything that was going on. I was so embarrassed to have even been in that academy, not to mention that I was a lower ranked instructor in that academy . When I do start up my own academy I will be fixing many flaws that were overlooked to be “traditional “. Don’t let yourself be abused, there are other schools that teach your martial art, go train there There is a difference between you not honouring your school and your school not honouring you

[@TheBlahblah86]

I'm sorry that happened to you. I hate it when the people who need the training the most don't feel safe getting it.

[@austinwiebe2648]

@@TheBlahblah86 nothing happened to me personally, but you are absolutely right, sometimes the people who need the training the most don’t get it because of these types of situations

[@tactical_goku]

Thank you for being a voice in defense of others. Especially, voicing to defend children and individuals from sexual assault.

[@elnoviodetumamaytufuturopa7150]

Thats why i don't spar with women in boxing or roll with them in bjj. I just don't like to get in stupid problems. If You want to be a creep and get in problems it's your problem not mine. I rather be cálled " gay " than end up in jail.

[@utubepunk]

How about just not be a creep & don't discriminate against your fellow bjj practioneers?

[@robcubed9557]

This scene from the movie Hancock is very relevant: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6baf2N6m69kqqs

[@PauIdenino]

@@utubepunk Stop pressuring men, you sexist.

[@Dbunkr55]

Every time I see one of these videos it just reinforces how much I wish I could train at the Gracie Academy. All the bad stuff they describe is my gym.

[@timmorenz9838]

You both are shining lights in the jiujitsu community. Thank you for your bravery and courage. It is inspirational.

[@vincenzodimeglio2975]

If you could develop a community where people who are actively being abused feel comfortable enough to talk to someone about it, then you have developed something more than a family atmosphere. It is a blessing.

[@suzanneorpen7762]

with great power comes great responsibility, unfortunately often people in powerful situations abuse this power! One can not talk about it enough, I am so proud of all the BJJ practitioners who are taking a stand and speaking up for abuse. I would also just like to point out that everyone joins BJJ for different reasons, each journey is unique. Often girls/women who have been sexually abused find the wonderful art of Jiu Jitsu afterwards on their journey in life, it is a battle on many fronts and it is the men at the academy who are mindful and willing to roll /spar and not judge that help that individuals to grow, battle her demons and often overcome and empower herself, to take a powerless situation and turn it into a situation of courage, strength and freedom. Jiu Jitsu has been the best therapy and I am grateful for the men who has played a roll in my journey, it is one of mutual respect. Awareness is powerful and speaking up ..... !!!!

[@graciescottsdale]

Awesome!

[@enlightenone4284]

Does anyone know which school this was in Florida? I currently left my school because my friend, she got sexually assaulted by the head instructor.. I was the instructor for the kids class there and left. Because I also found out he has a history of this, and he has a very powerful reputation

[@imsorry8236]

Good that you are open, it helps others. I wish you the best and hope this doesn’t stop you from training.

[@USALibertarian]

Ummm...did someone call the cops???

[@TheWorldHasChangedAreYouReady]

I have rolled with multiple females, i am 120kg and could crush some of the woman i have rolled wuth but it is about respect. When i take the back i instantly go to ground without putting my weight on their back, when doing standing armlock as the bad guy i grab the collar near the neck and not near the chest and in showing this type of respect makes it a great experience and they wont feel uncomfortable and they appreciate the oppitunity to try out their texhniques on someone 2-3 times their size and i get to know that i have helped them out. Respect woman the same as you respect a blackbelt male who is twice your size

[@acecasanova1]

Great way to take a nice video and try to make it about yourself

[@Godfrey18]

I once touched a girl on the chest trying to get her into butterfly in a comp I prefer not to roll with girls so accidents can't happen

[@mikek9297]

It happened to me too. It was kinda awkward but I'm happy to say I didn't let that split second event scar me for life, LOL.

[@Godfrey18]

@@mikek9297 it definitely has not scarred me for life I would just prefer not to roll with girls

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Next time wear Depends.

[@mikek9297]

@@Godfrey18 If that's your preference noone will make you do it. I'm just saying there's no pont tying yourself in knots over an accidental boob grab - it's a hands on discipline. Shit happens.

[@adventureswitheileen]

As a girl, I can say we understand that it's awkward for you, too. It's a physical sport and that's going to happen. If you're not comfortable rolling with women, that's totally fine, don't. But know that we understand when it's unintentional.

[@drewp1974]

Men should roll with women ! ! Stop saying they shouldn’t…. Women need to know what it’s like to feel superior strength so they use better technique! Often there are only 1 or 2 women in class. I’ve trained for years and haven’t seen one inappropriate allegation, or seen one. I think these instances are rare

[@utubepunk]

Exactly. Too many haters with hang-ups in this thread with a warped view of reality. To them, every woman is a threat. They're just waiting for them to get close so they can falsely accuse them. Such bullshit.

[@PauIdenino]

Men should only roll with women if they feel comfortable and vice versa.

[@drewp1974]

@@PauIdenino My point is, I completely disagree with these comments saying “men should NEVER roll with women” ::: THATS insane

[@PauIdenino]

@@drewp1974 I agree. Only if they don't want to.

[@graciescottsdale]

I roll with women all the time, have for years. I've never had an issue.

[@ezemeza1363]

I will share my story. I tried Jiu Jitsu because of all the advertising that it has about self defense. When I entered the dojo, I couldn't make it till the third month. It was like you starting boxing and doing sparring on the first day and feeling trash. And I did some boxing but it was too much for me. I really thought that Jiu Jitsu was just about that. Survival. But then I tried a Judo class and it was completely different (I couldn't continue because I had a long ride to that dojo). That judo class was more relatable to any of the martial arts that I have trained, where you spend a lot of time on drills and techniches. I also remember going back to my Jiu Jitsu class and doing a Judo throw. It worked even with high belts. After that, I stopped. I learned enough to protect myself. But I have found that they didn't know about solid takedowns.

[@dirgniflesuoh7950]

I recall once when an instructor did something inappropriate during randori. The woman it happened to confronted him, and he denied it, so she did not bring it up with Sensei - but she told the other female students so that if it happened again, or had already happened, we would bring it up with Sensei, so he was sort of on probation with all the women/girls training at the dojo.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

If a female rolls with a guy, there seems to be the possibility of accidental touches and/or glances regarding certain body parts. Did this guy's touch seem to be purposeful or intentional? For context: as a wrestler, I refuse to wrestle with girls, for this very concern.

[@dirgniflesuoh7950]

@@IndianaJoe0321 It seemed definitely intentional, not something you would do by mistake in karate "free play", he pinched her n***le ( I censor bc I am not sure if something might react in the algorithms?). Blocks may turn into grapples, that may end up wrestling on the floor, and grabbing each other, wrestling is intimate, or sometimes guys punch girls on their breasts out of habit, bc on males the pecs are pretty insensitive and easy to tense to absorb hits with, while a female ... we have soft, sensitive tissue there, and actually prefer taking them on the shoulder/clavicle ... unless we use a protector, and most did not. But pinching anywhere was never a part of the syllabus.

[@santosgonzales2021]

This amazing. Thank you for this conversation!

[@ns81]

1:38 this doesn’t just apply to martial arts instructors but to any thought leaders or “gurus” who give their students breakthroughs. It’s one reason the teacher student relationship can deteriorate into cults in some extreme cases.

[@farziran87m6]

Maybe part of the belt system should include good character and conduct. I know it's implied but the whole point is to instill discipline and self restraint. No matter how skilled a fighter there will always come a stronger more skilled it's not about that it's about character

[@andrzejagria1391]

it should be part of "you're even allowed in the gym" tbh. Putting it into belts reeks mcdojitsu, what would that even mean. Good job, you didnt assault anyone for 5 years straight now

[@pepprdgefarm]

Much respect for addressing this issue in a straightforward manner.

[@allyourbase888]

Thank you for this critically important message. 🙏🏽

[@vej48]

Agreed with the suggestion Men's Class, Women's class & Kids' Class. BJJ is about self defense.....a False accusation irrespective of PROVEN innocence still ensures excommunication from the BJJ Community......AVOID the DANGER because your reputation will be tainted for LIFE.

[@utubepunk]

Can you name any BJJer tainted for life from a false allegation? You realize false allegations happen rarely while sexual assaults happen far more often, by a significant magnitude. You need to readjust your perspective. I guarantee you a woman in bjj has already been attacked or will be. Your mentality is keeping you from helping your fellow bjj practioneer prepare against future attacks.

[@vej48]

@@utubepunk Please speak to Blackmen and men of colour about how rare False Rape allegations occur....Men have a legitimate FEAR about being accused and you dismiss it as if, it was LIE. Sorry, men will not gamble with their name and reputation and if, they desire to roll with other men for safety then, they should be provided that option just as "women-only" self defense classes exist.

[@richardthomas6602]

Love your training philosophy and how you implement it in your training programs.

[@rangerjim3872]

Thank you for your leadership.

[@therealmccoy5595]

As far as background checks and regulation. You can have background checks without regulation. Most states have a form of criminal database search that you can look up anyone. Every state has Megan's law that you can see sexual crimes.

[@10Cnote]

The problem I think is the fact that BJJ has grown so much in such a short span of time that schools and instructors who maybe should be vetted more thoroughly aren’t because of the speed the art has grown. With the expansion of any organism that grows too quickly it is very hard to root out any evil within it because unfortunately it’s usually too late.

[@jirkahlavaty7878]

It’s unfortunate but it happens a lot . One of the similar reasons I left one of your locations and I was there instructor. Throw my belt in to garbage and start training from blue belt again in different place. Everything comes to light soon or later .

[@voidscreaming1012]

Men and women should not roll together, very simple.

[@utubepunk]

That's not simple. That's stupid. Women need to train for self defense. The odds are their attacker will be male. Your hang-ups aren't helping anyone.

[@robcubed9557]

This scene from the movie Hancock is very relevant: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6baf2N6m69kqqs

[@jgreen802]

How about we just dont sexually assault our training partners? Most gyms I've been to only have a couple girls in each class anyway, so girls only sparring with girls wouldn't work unless you have enough of them.

[@utubepunk]

@@jgreen802 Yes. And thank you!

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Maybe if you rolled better, they would let you.

[@tjl4688]

"your truth".....well, no, it's just the truth.

[@joshuwa3953]

Is this about Vagner and cyborg ?

[@PeteOrta]

👍🏽

[@LogicBob]

Self-regulation (the schools), education (like this video!), and personal responsibility (of students and parents) beat state regulation every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

I believe Rener was saying BJJ hasn't a regulating body. I doubt he was referring to government regulation of the art.

[@Andelani_Ikwueme]

Even though BJJ is an actual martial art, Brazilian jiujitsu isn't ran by Martial Artist who live by a martial arts code of conduct. Preditory behavior, Competition, Student Sandbagging for medal counts,Gym Owner Ego, Friends promoting Friends, is BJJ culture, instructors trying to get with students has happened a lot. These dudes all need to go to prison.

[@Razear]

The unfortunate inevitability is that there will always be bad apples, regardless of the domain. In BJJ, because there's so much close, interpersonal contact, it's easy for abuse to take place and be dismissed.

[@chrisfrank8413]

I was in a pecking order school, Little technique, lots of suffer. But i started taking Gracie combatives while i was there on the side because of the lack of teaching. As a 2 stripe white, suddenly i was tapping their blues. Lets just say the blues were not happy! lol.

[@acecasanova1]

The f*ck this has to do w the video?

[@chrisfrank8413]

@@acecasanova1 Mind you own, Jkoff! just read, shut the mouth!

[@miaranee]

I love these two responsible adults. I trusted my karate instructor growing up like I did my own dad. It wad only luck the guy was a decent human being but luck shouldn't be the reason. People should get vetted for security purposes like they are saying.

[@scottydangerh8rs]

To be honest I don’t roll with females. Not to be mean, I just don’t want to get a suit or kicked from my gym for doing a high crotch single legs or grabbing belts/pant seems.

[@imsorry8236]

At least you set your boundaries. Respect that

[@daniele.f.2963]

Wow, I ran a USJA school as a NIKYU. A former 18 y/o IKKYU came back. I noticed he was trying to recruit for the local "Brown Berets". I had to act quickly and directly, I pulled him aside and told him he had to leave because of what he had become and was trying to do.

[@torbenschulze]

Guys, this problem is not about "rolling with women" is way more than that and not solved by "just don't roll with women"

[@bryanfrye8770]

I got into trouble when I was 17/18 years old, I would hate to be ostracized out of jiu jitsu because of some dumb mistakes I made when I was a kid...

[@USALibertarian]

Did you use Jiu Jitsu to sexually assault someone? If so, do you think it is unreasonable to not be provided more Jiu Jitsu training?

[@bryanfrye8770]

@@USALibertarian most people with a criminal background hasn't trained in bjj, and I would wager most assaults within the community are done by people that don't have a criminal record...

[@Shri100percent]

If you SAd someone and don't regret and have made clear strides to repent and learn and protect the community you harmed (which you clearly havent) then, fuck yeah, get the fuck out. You're not welcome.

[@carlhewitt5958]

So I think I know what happened after listening to another video. This is not about just rolling with women. An instructor slept with a teenage student who had been training there since a fairly young age. So everyone needs to chill out about accidentally touching a woman during a roll because this is clearly not what happened.

[@MarxAlex]

Guess you need separate gender classes due to risk of a me too moment within a litigious society. Certainly there is more risk for Male students based on the metric that subject perceptions are considered fact these days.

[@seraphim_sounds]

I’ve been bullied & sexually assaulted a couple of times. I wish I had known jujitsu maybe that wouldn’t have happened. I have a bad back from a (Dodge Charger) car wreck where I was hit on my drivers side by an oncoming car coming off of the interstate. Left me with 3 herniated & slipped discs & 2 annular cracks in my spine. But my big brother, who’s a black belt 🥋 in Tae Kwon Doh, swears that this would be good for my back. I’d like to learn this.

[@kirito3082]

If a regulator body came into play, they would add a lot of bullshit that would just harm business and consumers and even take away attention from the more important issues like this one, things are better this way, just keep it up on educating the public and other instructors on how to avoid incidents and we'll be doing the best we can.

[@hunteroperves9905]

I missed the news. Is Lloyd Irvin at it again?

[@TheBlahblah86]

I love the idea of doing background checks on instructors. Sad that some offenders can get plea bargains to get out of registering as sex offenders, but not every offended does. I also love treating students as equals which make the hard talks closer to easy.

[@graciescottsdale]

It all trickles down from above.

[@gs2919]

It is tricky because I understand the comments "don't roll with women," "just have separate men's, women's and child's classes." However, if you goal is self-defence for life and say one day someone attacks who is a man and you have no experience in defending yourself against men, that is going to be a problem. I suppose humans and these kind of situations are just tricky 🤷

[@spudyaquilina3001]

I love rolling with the guys as like you say I more likely to get attacked by a man than a woman and I want to be prepared. I learn so much off the guys and we have a great community. The men that I would refuse to roll with would be the ones on here talking about boners and making a mockery of it. But then they wouldn't last long in my school 😆

[@spudyaquilina3001]

@@ddwfw you don't roll with women because they'll choke you out more like. And If you read the comments I was replying to someone saying men get boners so I am not the dillusional one that would be the one that made the comment in the first place

[@AGuy-s5v]

The women come to the gym to train meaningfully against men. The usually want to learn how to defend themselves and figure bjj is the way to go. Based on the female population size at any given gym, if every man said "no" or "I don't feel comfortable" then the women in the gym either can't train meaningfully or at all. Arizona Silverback says for that reason, if you don't roll with women you get kicked out of his gym. They are paying members at your gym, a team member.

[@spudyaquilina3001]

@@AGuy-s5v that is so well said 👏 xx

[@museme6309]

Every single women on the planet should know this.

[@Drwcorner]

How about this: get more females leading courses and schools. The more female BJJ leaders the more the empowerment mindset begins to grow

[@utubepunk]

That's part of the solution. But this fear or rolling with women needs to be tapped out. Women need to train against bigger opponents. Their next attacker will most likely be a man, so men need to step up & help their fellow bjj practioneers be better prepared.

[@Whtwlsn]

What happened that this keeps coming up?

[@jojojaykay]

Anyone have a link to the story?

[@ns81]

3:55 again - plenty of other contexts besides bjj. Sales floors, music school, kitchens, to name just a few. Airplane cockpits until crew resource management became widespread.

[@jvergara84]

If these allegations or any other allegations are proven, anyone assaulting sexually anyone should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, not just frowned upon or spoken against in social media. It is very easy to "speak out" or "raise awareness" against any alleged crime and get a few pats on the back. I don't think anyone out there condones or favors sexual harassment on anyone.

[@franklinnanai2745]

Rener you are a good man.

[@NIGHTMARE-hv2vu]

I kinda miss the Eve Torres her and Maryse feud are one of entertaining and funniest feud i've seen.

[@ProperName24]

What a random comment on a video like this 🤣🤣🤣

[@Chid-y9e]

Your a special human master ❤

[@KentPetersonmoney]

If I was a martial art instructor and my student sexually harassed someone. I would tell them to get the fuck out. If they pull out hundred of dollars and try to bribe me I would say get your money and go I'm not training no rapist.

[@jeremyhanson9646]

Thanks guys, another great video

[@rasalghul9331]

I am so glad this conversation about creating a healthy culture in bjj is being brought forth by the Gracie's. Even for some grown men, it can be very intimidating in a bjj school if it feels the culture of the school is about being tough and a bully.

[@azothony8509]

Hello I’m a student myself still. My goal is to become a master. I personally don’t like to roll with women simply because I’m cautious of the times now days that of to not put myself in situations that will compromise my name.

[@azothony8509]

But my question is… am I wrong for this

[@fabianh.5848]

then men and women should train separately to protect them from each other

[@KentPetersonmoney]

I disagree. Women need to train with men to get an idea of how strong they are to prepare themselves to defend themselves against a violent man who attacks them.

[@AGuy-s5v]

If we separated the men and women not only is that sex based discrimination, but more importantly: there are too few women at any given gym for that to work out. Take note of how many women are in your gym. I've only ever seen 2 at mine, and usually it's one at a time. You might see them train together on one day of the week, but they don't have the same schedule. If we segregated based on sex the women would never get to roll at all. Then they would all quit because Jiu-jitsu is an expensive sport on top of "being useless" because they would never get to roll.

[@USALibertarian]

They don't need to be segregated, nor forced to roll together.

[@AGuy-s5v]

@@USALibertarian In order for women to defend themselves they need to roll with men. If you have a condition or psychological disorder that makes it impossible for you to roll with women, talk to your professor. Otherwise. If everyone else has a training partner already and the female notices you and figures that she can learn greatly from rolling with you, and you say "sorry, I don't feel (comfortable/interested/safe) rolling with you", you can't just waste her valuable time training to defend her life and family over someone's comfortability. That's messed up.

[@fobekpaulino1]

What happened in Florida?

[@spudyaquilina3001]

Maybe it's just my club but no one minds rolling with the women or vice versa. We all support each other and get on. As a women I love rolling with men and I have a lot of advice to offer as I'm small I have to learn the technique as I can't use brute strength. Nobody gets boners and certainly no women gets turned on by rolling, we're not grappling whores. It's a sport, a family and life long friendships are made .

[@Shri100percent]

Good for you! Where is this? I wouldn't mind visiting lol 😆 but also I don't think that's what they are talking about tbh.

[@TheSonOfJohn117]

Great video. Thank you.

[@bassblaster162]

What happened? Anyone have a reliable source/info?

[@rickywoods3101]

I have never had anything happen and I have never seen anything at my gym

[@Tianshanwarrior]

Sadly this happens in other martial arts sports, schools etc...

[@kennethcurtis1856]

This happens in life.

[@robertomunoz2395]

Any instructor who acts in this manner has to be removed from BJJ in all capacities. Complete lifetime ban.

[@shindrithargriethrat8408]

I had to unsubscribe from BJJ on Reddit because 95% of the posts were re-hashing this same stuff over and over. My school doesn't do this, I don't do it, my instructor doesn't do it, so I'm sick of hearing about it.

[@hapyharyhard0n581]

Thank you.

[@enlightenone4284]

We need to know which school this is. This could be our school.

[@f0cus2021SOT]

Fight sports miami

[@BrikBeans]

If it was your school u would know bubb

[@JohnnyJitsu11]

In my opinion, i think that part of enrolling in any course even in BJJ. There should be background checks for EVERYONE.

[@Bears9McMahon]

Link to story please

[@aaroncrothers3603]

I’m a huge fan of Rener and Ryron. In all of my time at multiple schools I’ve never seen or been made aware of this type of behavior. It’s my experience women are treated very well and many upper belts are fairly protective of them. I’m not sold this unwanted behavior is pervasive and happens at all schools eventually. Keep the content and conversation going. Keep it playful! Congrats on the HBO GST piece!

[@adventureswitheileen]

Agree. It's an important thing to discuss and be aware of, but I was disappointed that they seemed to imply that non-Gracie schools are all about power. I train at a non-Gracie school and every single person is super respectful and the atmosphere is very friendly and comfortable. I've never felt unsafe around a single guy (or girl) at my gym.

[@ironmikehallowween]

I like this couple for many reasons. They are very good ambassadors for BJJ.

[@michaelflentge6484]

I’m only at 3:32 into the video and this is amazing.

[@elijahdeluna9187]

I only roll with other men. No women or children. I don't want to feel uncomfortable and I don't want anyone else to feel that way.

[@black9897]

If anyone has a problem with rolling with the opposite sex, then it's probably best you don't do jits at all. Yeah, it's a very close contact sport/marital art and you're going to be in weird positions, you will accdently touch butts, legs, boobs, etc. Who cares? You know how many times I've had some other dudes (and girls) butt/ groin in my face? I don't care. We're rolling The guy who had sex with his student was wrong due to the power difference. Teacher/student

[@utubepunk]

Exactly. Say it louder for the haters in the back.

[@urbansamurai261]

10 times better than the drivel I heard from vagner in 2 mins. Thank you Rener

[@followerOfJesus723]

Stop abuse of power. Instructors have to stop being all knowing, bullies who can demand people to instruct your classes for free.

[@brazenjim]

Said the guy who married his student... 👍🏻 Rener

[@rjreliv]

Great job guys!