Sexual Offense Laws and Constitutionality - Catherine Carpenter, CA 2013

[@whatthehell4927]

Catherine Carpenter is truly a beautiful person. I absolutely love her. She is standing up for liberty and Justus because it's the right thing to do. I just can't get over the fact that that people like her really do exist.

[@rrraaabbbqqq5755]

Yes I cannot get enough of this... it is so wonderful , powerful SUCH a breath of fresh air.

[@jayraskin]

Thank you so much for your courage, Catherine Carpenter.

[@timsvea5980]

Great presentation, Catherine Carpenter. The public sex offender registry is an affront to common sense and to human dignity. Politicians need to understand that catering to fear mongering and public shaming is no way to keep society safe. Abolish the sex offender registry!

[@NARSOL]

We couldn't agree more.

[@ratailor8062]

Yes agreed

[@stevespence5407]

Fantastic. Well done. So glad I stumbled across this. Keep it up!

[@dwaynewilliams9724]

This is the best presentation that I've heard in a long time.

[@aaronc4724]

I think that these laws suck. I hope that we are able to overturn these laws.

[@theluckiesteh9058]

I know things will change.... Bravo, Carpenter.... Bravo! :')

[@theluckiesteh9058]

@@redeemingpatriot3487 Well, I don't really know.... I'm mostly kind of busy with other stuff.

[@NARSOL]

@@redeemingpatriot3487 Our DYK videos use animation to introduce the public to issues related to the registry. But the more the merrier.

[@genehaynes416]

Someday, a very important person will be put on the registry and then, things will change (I hope)

[@amhharr6696]

My husband is a registered sex offender and he was working hard at a job he had and even told the hiring supervisor that he was convicted over 20 years of a non violent consensual sexual offense. And after he was working there for a few months and doing an excellent job he was pulled into the office and told he was no longer able to maintain employment at the company due to him being on the sex offender registration and was literally walked out in front on all the other employees. When he came home that night I will never forget the look of embarrassment and helplessness on his face. This only happened because someone at the job recognized him from being on the registry and told everyone about it and someone complained to the boss about it and said they didn’t feel comfortable working with a sex offender registrant. My husband isn’t a violent person and served his prison time and completed his probation with no violations. I’m so proud of him to this day .. he is constantly out looking for work and has never gave up. I have faith he will find employment again.. even though I know the cards are stacked against him.

[@NARSOL]

We are so sorry for this situation. Unfortunately, it happens far too often. Among the many reforms, we believe the registry should not be public for this exact reason. Feel free to check out our Connections, or social media channel for support.

[@amhharr6696]

@@NARSOL I will be sure to check it out. Something definitely needs to change when it comes to SO registration. It’s ruining too many lives and it is counterproductive.

[@barbarahampton9384]

RSOL education should be passed on to every citizen who votes in this country. They need to know the TRUTH about registry laws and stop burying their heads in the sand. Want to know why our schools have a lack of funding? 30 million dollars per year alone in the state of Texas being spent annually to support it's registry and you are NO safer.

[@shane413]

Oh Sex Offenders! The lepors of today! Justice and liberty for all ya right! More like justice and liberty for the majority! We've let our law makers break the law for too long! Thank you for standing up!

[@justinrabbitt9492]

My heart truly breaks at the thoughts of being under the insane restrictions and cruel laws against sex offenders. Having life ruined,the country turning into your prison with no chance of release, and practically limited on work so much that you can't make any headway at all. All offenders should be allowed to work at jobs that have nothing whatsoever to do with being around their crimes. Companies should allow someone with the skills to do the job needed to work especially if they served their time and maybe let those eager to learn get a chance to try. It used to be you could educate yourself or work hard at a job to rise thru the ranks while learning new skills. Yet for sex offenders it all still looks like a giant dead end cause of how screwed up the system is. I keep seeing no real change much for the better that isn't several years old as a start. As if it was started but hasn't moved forward any farther.

[@justinrabbitt9492]

@@redeemingpatriot3487 the registry needs to go and the laws involved also need redone better to allow more leniency. To allow them to truly have their "debt paid" and be able to move on with a happy life. Even companies need to change their policues to all become second chance places. To truly allow everyone to work who has the skills and have nothing to do with the crime.

[@justinrabbitt9492]

@@redeemingpatriot3487 where?

[@davidkennerly]

This talk was fantastic but, coming on two years now, I am wondering why we haven't heard her voice since.

[@davidkennerly]

+Jim Man No problem. Yes, Janice is a force of nature, it would seem. Pleasantly surprised with all she has accomplished and in such a short period of time. Catherine Carpenter, on the other hand, has a really insightful grasp of the position of sex offender laws within a Constitutional framework. It would be a terrible disappointment were she not able, after identifying the many vulnerabilities of these laws, to pursue their deconstruction. I understand her position as a law professor and the demands and, no doubt, constraints placed upon her but wish that her vision could lend itself to such a counter-attack. She would be brilliant at it.

[@echomoon3381]

i can not even tell you how many times i have shared this video. it's terrifying when you actually learn what all you can get arrested and convicted for and get placed on the registry.

[@Yyyyyy5]

What used to be a feel good soccer mom law of " oh look, guess who's on the registry!" Now that soccer moms biggest fear is will her child end up on the registry.

[@Yyyyyy5]

When you educate yourself about the statistics and the registry you'll find it's not that feel good soccer mom/ law enforcement tool. All the sex offender registry is used for is shaming, bigotry and hate. Time for the registry to go. I know it's gonna be hard for society but we found a way to get rid of " whites only" drinking fountain signs so I know we can overcome this as well.

[@justinrabbitt9492]

It is truly terrifying how companies promote sex to sell products yet the justice system pretty much makes it where you can't risk even having sex at all else you wind up being punished for the rest of your life.

[@NARSOL]

@@Yyyyyy5 Yes, according to some estimates, 200,000 children are on the registry.

[@cosmosius5447]

wow but how long will it take to change things

[@justinrabbitt9492]

Decades maybe at the way the world is. I fear the only time things will change is when the justice system ends up putting everyone on a registry for anything. Then people will start to realise how screwed up the whole thing is and how it doesn't help anyone.

[@justincase1919]

It is punishment. It's basically parole for life. Also, it's a way to find something to put us back in prison for if someone wants to.

[@jarrodyuki7081]

no more registry.

[@Nelsonthompson811]

This is so true not all s. That have done their time and has stayed out of trouble after he has shown that he has strived to live a normal and in trouble should b allowed off registry. Thank u so much for helping

[@jeangrunhannes2208]

Dear Catherine Carpenter ,you really speak very well,no ums no buts

[@livlifbyadrop]

Awesome video! These laws place a burden on people who have to register for life. Everyone put in this category is treated like a monster. A registered SO needs to renew their license often, so Texas bullies offenders by having them to pay more to renew their license. Offenders can't go near a school meaning no seeing your child's first day of school or getting involved in your child's education, because of limitations. These restrictions not only punish the convicted, but also their families.

[@pipeorganfan26]

Oh My Gosh What A Beautiful Lady You Are My Dear. You Are A Shinning Light In Dark Times & I Applaud Your Quest & I Would Love To Hold Your Hand In Standing Up For This & Take A Stance On This Please Let Me Know If You Have Any Protest You Might Be Doing & I Will Pass The Word Along.

[@msas6020]

The problem with this approach is the citizens that are entitled to be seen as humans, that either made a mistake or got falsely convicted, are having to beg those that swore to uphold the constitution to allow the same protections under that constitution as everyone else. Including other felons that do so much more vile acts. Everyone else has rights. Sex offenders don’t. None at all. The last group that got treated like this were African Americans. All the years of begging for them to be seen as human and not dogs deserving of nothing in life didn’t change anything. It took protest. Marches. Riots. Wide scale uprisings. The reason is people generally don’t care what happens to anyone else, not unless it effects them too. And the only way to make them change the horrible things they do is by force. They know the registry is bs. They know the majority of sex offenders are less likely to cause future problems than drug dealers, thief’s and murders. They know the false image of sex offenders are made up stories to get more and more citizens incarcerated, unarmed and voiceless in the direction of the government. They know all this and they choose to side with the hype. And nothing will change other than tiny irrelevant changes that do not fix the problem. The pariah class, the dogs of society, will stay that for another hundred years until everyone these laws hurt start standing up and demanding to be heard. Protest, marches, riots. Every other class of citizens denies rights simply because of the class they are in understand this. And they listen to them. Cause they have no choice. Can’t ignore them. People, stand up for your rights or you don’t deserve to have the rights.

[@kathleenhavens7961]

@@redeemingpatriot3487 How do I access the chat room?

[@megayonosenada]

The Texas legislature recently conceded that publishing the employer's name in the sex offender's profile is punitive to the employer, and this information is no longer published.(SB369) The legislature doesn't want the employer to suffer harassment from the public by having their name publically displayed on the internet. Can't a legal argument be made from this to prove that public registration is punitive to the registrant?If it's punitive to the employer it's also punitive to the registrant.

[@davidnavarro4363]

Nazi Germany had a registry too which resulted from emotional panic and run away legistlation. Are we headed in the same direction?

[@justinrabbitt9492]

Yes we are.

[@justinrabbitt9492]

@@redeemingpatriot3487 I want to see it fixed yet everything I see tells me that no political person would ever want to touch the laws at all to change them to allow the debt to be paid. To allow people to be free again to live and reduce the crimes down.

[@dejesteel262]

Thank you for standing up for those poor men and women who are being percecuted for even one day after they have paid for the offense if it's an offense at all.

[@NARSOL]

We believe that once an individual has served their sentence, they should be given the opportunity to rebuild their lives and make a positive contribution to society.

[@dasouth3441]

ARTICLE 4 LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT Sec. 17. Laws to embrace only one subject. No law shall embrace more than one subject, which shall be expressed it's title. Would this constitute, DOUBLE JEOPARDY: If one is summoned to appear for failure to register and takes it to a Jury Trial, while explaining to the Jury he/she, the reason why the registration has been Unconstitutionally Bestowed to them because they don't want to leave any room for SPECULATION as to why they must register. The second one explains that NOW DEFENDING that Case Again! Does that not lead to DOUBLE JEOPARDY.

[@donny38075]

Amazing clarity on an absurd situation in our country. Sex offenders are subject to asinine laws. But I fear things will never change, the fear is too great.

[@Yyyyyy5]

No one is saying these things shouldn't be punished but .....a scarlett letter for life is wrong. It's ok for some to be sorry for their action nothing wrong with that but to be honest.....at some point quit apologizing for some of this stuff because a lot of it is crap.

[@Yyyyyy5]

If its something that bad like brutal rape or something, child molesting then lock them up for life if it can't be fixed but, a whiz in public or a 19 year old with his consenting teen age girlfriend you handle different than a pedophile or a brutal rapist.

[@SergSpace]

Very intelligent speech. I wish she could make real changes.

[@deannalachelle9319]

Time to REVISE this law.. No a one size fits all. A picture looked at one the web should not be longer than a rape. Just twisted !!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ Smh. Wrong is wrong.

[@jerryspann8713]

Something needs to change fast. Did you know that the state of Missouri has passed a new law. Effective January 1st 2017, if you were convicted on or after August 28, 2006 for a sex crime you have to wear an ankle bracelet for life with GPS monitoring, and lifetime probation, and pay a $30 a month fee. This law is retroactive, meaning if you've already done your time, and completed your probation, or parole, you have to report to probation and parole and be fitted with a GPS ankle bracelet, or face a class D. felony. You will also be back on probation for life. This also applies for people that's moved out of state. This is exactly the definition of punitive. Hopefully this will be the Achilles Hill to the registry.

[@davidkennerly]

Loved your talk! You're fabulous! This video should be promoted, linked and blasted as far and wide as possible. One disagreement: children engaging in sex play are not being "inappropriate". This sort of politically correct Oprah and Dr. Phil puritanism needs to be directly confronted. If you believe in children's & adolescent's rights, you need to revisit these widely held yet baseless assumptions which do not withstand critical scientific or civil libertarian scrutiny.

[@thomasguice5119]

It is unfair. I'm a sex offender and I've done my time! The law uses this against me. I am 57 and I can't put my life back together. I've even though about suicide!

[@NARSOL]

@@thomasguice5119 We are sorry that you have considered suicide. Know that you are not alone. Consider joining NARSOLs Connections to connect with other registrants. And watch some of the DYK videos--there is hope.

[@deku3i]

It can be inappropriate when a child is sexually abusing another child which happens often (child on child sexual abuse) & should be punished.

[@rojack1947]

If one looks at the sentence that a sex offender gets and the life long harassment that they go thru, has it occurred to anyone why there are so many dead kids found? It seems that a perp. would be better off killing that child. It is one hell of a thought but it is a reality. Even murderer's are treated better than a sex offender even though the child is at least still alive. I do realize that a child goes thru some very odd changes from sexual molestation. I am wondering if that is why my life was so messed up. I never got treatment because during my childhood in the 50's and 60's I never heard or read about anyone being charged with a sex crime. I think these people now-a-days are so closed minded about this crime. The People that offend a child after they have been imprisoned are very few. Recidivism with sex offenders is very low and almost nil. But the Politicians don't look at it that way. They go by what the majority of people want. Although not everyone even knows or wants to know what the majority of sex offenders went thru. As someone said, this is a modern Salem Witch hunt. I can't see these laws changing unless we as sex offenders go to DC and put the fear of God into these closed minded Morons. They are there because of we the people. Well we are people also. So lets get there and do it. Too many restrictions are on the books now and it has to stop NOW!!

[@robertmiller5735]

7 yrs no registry for simple murder

[@ogre706]

This was a wonderful presentation. And it's been ten years ago now. Very little has changed. The problem is that the registry is a political construct, and in politics, it's not intelligent logic that makes progress. You have to take away the political power politicians currently have, with regards to the registry debate, by winning the emotional battle.

[@MarkSmith-jp6cr]

We love you.Catherine Carpenter.

[@archerzzy]

she is my professor!!!!

[@barbaraparr1007]

Catherine! You are a jewel...💕

[@Danman-wz4fw]

So if a person has a sex crime that was not or had nothing to do with a child how come they have to have there lifes destroyed wrecked by the registry.................

[@phoque4611]

The registry is a complete violation of human rights.

[@NARSOL]

Thank you for your support.

[@jamesstepp393]

I Have been on since 2004 I met my victim at 24 he was 17 he went on an adult chat line and lied about his age admit it in police he lied and am a sex offender

[@NARSOL]

This happens sometimes. What happens even more frequently is law enforcement pretending to first me an adult and once they have established an emotional bond, claiming to be "underaged."

[@JadeMicheleGriffin]

I think some of those young kids that did those acts were abused and their parents should of been investigated.

[@bornofsource9419]

maybe but those acts are all over television. in music. in evesdropped adult conversation. its all over the internet.. its in a dvd in your parents closet. everywhere... kids mimic everything

[@Rob-rs5rn]

Bravo Professor Carpenter! You're right, this registry is completely immoral. I know other countries have registries but they're not open to the public - police and law enforcement use only. I would be okay with this type of registry as long as the punitive aspects such as residency restrictions, etc. were re vamped.

[@Yyyyyy5]

Only English speaking countries have the registry. It is a total of 7 countries.

[@NARSOL]

@@Yyyyyy5 Unfortunately, many more than 7 countries have a registry. One difference is that most countries keep their registries for law enforcement or on a need to know basis.

[@williamowens6995]

im a sex offender. Ilive in a world of hell. when i got out of prison i was told i had to register once a year for ten years. now i have to register three times for life. the problem is im the father of three kids. my question is why can i have my kids if im seen as a monster? i have had people kick in my front door and beet me in front of them. i just want to know WHY?

[@kagesong]

If you still get notifications here. Yes, it is illegal to create ex post facto laws (retroactive) IF they are punitive in nature. However, the supreme court has ruled in all but 2 cases that these laws are not punitive (this means they believe they are NOT punishing us). So when a state changes it's registry laws, it now affects all registered people in that state. Where I live, thousands were removed from registry by one law, then placed back on it several years later.

[@kagesong]

Here's another fun one. I am about to get a job in another state. Their laws are different than my state. I will have to register there, simply because I work there. I may have to place sex offender placards on my car, even though my state DOES NOT require it. I may even have to place them in my yard, BECAUSE OF THE LAWS OF A STATE I DO NOT LIVE IN. "So get a job in your state" you might say. I have been denied employment for 1.5 years due to criminal background checks automatically denying me. If a company will hire me, I have to jump through hoops to survive. I am supported by my 92 year old grandmother, because the states laws have made me unable to provide for my self. Tell me, what do I do when she's gone, if I don't jump through hoops?

[@kagesong]

+Jim Man Sadly, you only describe one state, and only in cases where the laws are retroactive. Neither would apply to me. How can a law be punitive one place, but not another? How in fact, can I be placed on a S.I.S. probation (no official conviction) and have to register as a felon would. Moreso, seeing, obviously, that these laws are indeed punitive, how can I be sentenced to 5 years in prison, serve the entire sentence plus being beaten and molested multiple times by other inmates, and be serving a LIFE sentence, after my "debt is paid". That is why they were made non-punitive. If they were punitive, they could not be upheld.

[@jarrodyuki7081]

1. Sunday to Thursday 2. Air conditioner!!!!!! 65 degrees 3. 10 am - 9 pm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Yyyyyy5]

So what your saying is they believe shaming will help people who are getting that second chance?

[@patriotfighter8694]

Keep up your work up going on and on. I have a fiancée in the Philippines who I want to bring here.

[@dejesteel262]

I wish you had a website my neighbor could join you for the ending of the registry.

[@NARSOL]

Those who are friends or supporters of reforming the registry are welcome to join us at NARSOL. Laws vary by state, so reform is often done at the state level. Does your state have an organization aligned with NARSOL's mission?

[@dejesteel262]

@@NARSOL I don't know if we here in Michigan have a chapter, I will certainly try and find out.

[@NARSOL]

Here is the registry information from our website regarding Michigan registry laws. statewiki.narsol.org/doku.php?id=michigan

[@genocanabicea5779]

Its been 9 years...nothing has changed!

[@NARSOL]

The overall concept of a registry has not changed. There have been both losses and wins. We appreciate our supporters as we continue the struggle of working with the laws nationally and in each state.

[@genocanabicea5779]

@@NARSOL nesara is coming along with common law. They will be letting many out of prison and probation so too these who we speak of now.

[@paulkonitzer624]

Treated live a less humans

[@amhharr6696]

Sex offender registration is not only unconstitutional it’s a multimillion maybe even multibillion dollar business.. each individual on registration has to pay a annual free to be on registration and if you do the math it isn’t hard to figure out that it’s a money making machine. It’s all about money! These individuals are forced to pay a fee to be on a unconditional registration list.

[@NARSOL]

Unfortunately, the courts have ruled that registration is not a punishment but a civil regulation, like getting a driver's license. The real cost is lost income due to people not being able to be productive members of society once they complete their sentences.

[@patriotfighter8694]

What can we do to change the laws?

[@Yyyyyy5]

Do like the proud Rosa Parks during the civil rights era. Go to a park with other non violent registrants sit and enjoy the day! Refuse to move until cuffed. Sounds crazy but this will start educating people. Of course you can't use violent offenders because pretty sure none of them are running the street.

[@Yyyyyy5]

It's ok to regret your actions but quit apologizing for it! Quit putting up with the bull shit!

[@jamesstepp393]

I would like to speak with you I live in az I want to do a movement here

[@mrcleanisin]

Fight fire with fire by including adultery, prostitution, and failure to pay child support ----how are these not sex crimes?

[@NARSOL]

Although that sentiment has some merit, our mission is to eliminate the registry. Adding additional conditions won't accomplish that.

[@deku3i]

How is failure to pay child support a sex crime?

[@mrcleanisin]

Unless you're Mary all humans were penetrated to cause a pregnancy. Most states have fornication laws that criminalize any sexual activity unless married to each other --- male to female. Logically, illegal intercourse caused the woman to charge the male for having sex resulting in a child that must be fed.

[@mrcleanisin]

The only legal sex in South Carolina is to be legally married to a person of the oppositive sex. So, if you are paying child support for an affair you had and was not married to that person at the time of impregnation then that makes the fornication a sex crime. Also, if the female was less than 16 at the time of impregnation that's usually a sex crime also. Note: I don't really believe it's a sex crime. I'm just trying to show the absurdity of the law and the registry.

[@specialgamerguy4693]

when will there be a change to the laws we need a change in 2023

[@NARSOL]

There has been progress made, but legislative action requires people who are willing to spend a lot of time, and judicial action requires money to pay lawyers. However, we do appreciate the many ways people support us in our efforts to overturn unjust laws.

[@davidshore954]

How can a law be a civil law til you violate the same law? Doesn't the same law become both?

[@martinkaye6397]

i am starting an international petition to start trying to change this crazy system to make it a more sensible and my petition would be glad of your signature my file can be found in : "reform sex offenders law for a much more effective system" - change

[@Overthetop242]

Yeah...all these poor people who have had concession after concession after they abused and damaged an innocent person who will wear those scars for the rest of their life. Just look at the stats for reporting rates, arrests made, prosecutor acceptance of a case, plea bargaining, pre-sentence hearings and sentencing with options for deferred and suspended sentences, and house arrest. Every step of the way the perpetrator is given a small escape route to minimize her/his crimes and by the time it is all over with, they sometimes even get to walk away scot free, often times in the name of budgetary constraints within the State's coffers. All the while this is happening, some man, woman or child who has been scarred for life is suffering in the darkness of their own lost time on this planet. This is not a heroic effort to right an injustice by this speaker. It is a myopic point of view that she can never understand until she or a family member has to suffer the consequences from the actions of a broken human being who can't stand being broken by her/himself, so she/he has to find someone else to break too. While there may need to be a greater discussion on mental health inputs for offenders, the answer is NOT to give any of them another escape route that disallows accountability for the choices they have made, to the disaster and detriment of other innocent beings.

[@NARSOL]

Your response makes several assumptions not grounded in facts. First, few offenders walk away "scot free." Secondly, a good number of people on the registry have committed victimless crimes (for example, in cases of entrapment where law enforcement pretended to be a teenager). Third, NARSOL does not believe that offenders should escape accountability. Our mission is to create rational laws not a draconian and arbitrary system but registration laws that are based on research and that serve the original intent of those laws so when an individual has served their sentence, they aren't governed by those laws which are unconstitutional.

[@notbornyesterday2767]

One of the the various problems with using sex-offender registration to protect victims from the genuine predators who "might" reoffend, is that it is unconstitutional; I get that; however, how do law officers/legislators deal with predators who do reoffend? There IS an abnormally high rate of recidivism among genuine sex offenders, so do they get "revolving door" punishment, possibly on and off, for the remainder of their lives? I would imagine these multiple incarcerations would cost tax-payers mega-bucks. Complex issue all the way around.

[@bornofsource9419]

yeah but when they say recidivism, or reoffend.. it doesnt exactly mean a sex offense. nobody is going to want to rent to you so alot become homeless which is a failure to register. which can be considered recidivism or reoffending. that among many other things related to the restrictions, especially on parole/probation lead to some kind of charge or violation. so technically yes, There IS an abnormally high rate of recidivism. its the language they use.. *shrugs*

[@jeangrunhannes2208]

why not have everybody in the USA (340 million ) register as sex offenders ,crazy,crazy

[@fans-ed1td]

I would like to hear her view on people who download child sexual abuse material. Should they be on the registry for life?

[@NARSOL]

This video is about constitutional issues and the registry. Is it cruel and unusual punishment to have someone on a lifelong registry? And once you do that, where does it end? Should a murderer be on a registry? What if it is self-defense? Where would registries end? More importantly, how is it effective to have someone on a lifetime registry, or a registry for that matter? We think the kind of material you are describing is wrong, and people should receive an appropriate level of punishment. But, just as with most other crimes, once they have completed their sentence, they should given a chance to rebuild their lives and become productive members of society.

[@logicalmorality4646]

Do you reply to questions on here?

[@GodSmacked75]

Im.the only one in my huge neighborhood thats on sex offendee registry. Nobody has ever confronted me, protest outside my house, etc. Thats because im not a SO. i was maliciuosly set up by messed up law enforcement.

[@NARSOL]

We are sorry that you were set up but glad you have not been harassed. Others who are in a similar situation regarding false accusations have not been so fortunate.

[@TTTT-cy2dg]

my girlfriend was convicted of a sex offence served 12 years for being forced by her husband by a knife to watch two teenage girls strip dance and two boys ages 12 to 15 and she had three small children of her own to try and protect two 18year olds were there who were the girls boyfriends who did not get arrested my girlfriend was originally since to a 10 year registry but when she was released from prison was told she had to register for life and took the sex offener treatment program twice she severed her time has been out for four years with no reoffending but we have no murder registry how is this fair her name is holly live in Mayfield ky

[@TTTT-cy2dg]

plus holly had a horticultural degree and a carpentry degree and can not get a job she has two grandchildren she can not see and all because of a demistic violence that her family or police would not help her it's a witch hunt

[@robertmiller5735]

the skinny dipper was tried and convicted in 1979, It is a violation of double jeopardy, to and registration to his sentence at a later date .

[@GirlofNicky]

The Constitution is being completely ignored

[@patriotfighter8694]

Well I am a RSO and I have a fiancée in the Philippine's who is in love with me. We want to be together. I was not trying to break the law.

[@DavidThomas-me6pi]

she cares about the people who have "paid their debt"?

[@Yyyyyy5]

And the children who are or were required to register as children.

[@Greg-hg9cs]

She does care. Wonder why more is not talked about those who have been convicted and innocent of the crime for which plead too. These are the easiest to accuse and hardest to defend. Law enforcement ho to great lengths to convict. Unless you have the means. Money for actual defense. You will be held in custody offered years or manipulated in to pleading. How many innocent are suffering because no DNA to exonerate them? Then the actual reoffense rate for like crime put out to the public. Our families targeted the person who has done the time. Went through the evaluations to get out of prison. Then low risk and forced to be subjected to conditions during supervision which have zero Nexas to the commited offense. Then targetted by some in the communities followed . Innocent normal healthy behaviors twisted to fit their unjust beliefs.

[@mrcleanisin]

Professor Catherine Carpenter's main issue is that the sex registry puts people on there who should not be mixed in with real sex offenders and she lists "19-year-old having sex with 15-year-old girlfriend, public indecency, skinny dipping in hotel pool with girlfriend" which sounds to me like she wants to show the registry has gone too far. Well, let's take it further in that direction so society can really see the absurdity. Let's include fornication, adultery, prostitution, pimping, pandering, 3rd degree criminal sexual conduct, assault and battery, preforming abortion, failure to pay child support.

[@NARSOL]

Perhaps suggesting that some of these actions be added to the registry could lead to honest conversations about the purpose of the registry and its effectiveness.

[@mrcleanisin]

I believe you finally understand it. You might want to lobby that the central child abuse registry be open to the public just like the sex registry.

[@NARSOL]

Since we are against registries, we would not want to see more.

[@mrcleanisin]

@@NARSOL It's the same logic, you put every crime on the registry, and it takes away the stigma of the registry. Do I really have to spell it out for you?

[@phoque4611]

The registry is slavery. Slavery: a person who is bound to an authority, Institution or system for life. Chained or unchained, forced labor or not, with the threat of incarceration, violence or death.

[@phoque4611]

Once bound, the person becomes property of the state and no longer has any rights to freedom.

[@NARSOL]

@@phoque4611 Although we appreciate your support, we do not agree that the registry is slavery. It is unjust and people on the registry sometimes have draconian restrictions, they still have many rights that enslaved people do not.

[@phoque4611]

I am facing jail time even though I have not committed a crime I just didn't report in time. I feel like a slave. My human rights are being violated and this is in Canada.

[@NARSOL]

@@phoque4611 We are sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, registration stipulations are another way the registry is not rational.

[@phoque4611]

@@NARSOL how do we change this irrationality?

[@Mark67450]

yes it hard on young sex offender.finding known place to live.counting on friends.in-witch they have kids.and if your not open to your friend about it.upset they my pursue charges on you.remember Your freedom is more important .the law system set me up to take a fall.You known A cop out.the system they go as far to pin on you.Did that ever happy to you.because of a small prier record.and this happen over 20 year a go.The system suck.it side its happen to our generation.in-witch where was the worst. and that the past.

[@MarkSmith-jp6cr]

And if a releted crime your DON.And you did not do it.The system. man law.And they play you right in it,.I have made a commitment to make changes in my life. But as life has its up and downs and as humans we all make mistakes. Even people in higher positions in life make mistakes. For those people who don't get the full a extent of the law. But as if there was supposed to be a change for the better laws. It would it have been sooner or later. I say sooner so that we are all educated. its like waiting for the world to catch up with the past, like the saying make love not war. We still can't make change on that . So we are only human for which we all have good intentions to make change for the better. As long as it a good avenue to start a new one, reform.

[@mrtwister9002]

Yeah, well... ain't shit gonna happen, but get worse. I appreciate whats being said, but in the end it doesn't matter. It isn't gonna change a thing.

[@planetbenji1493]

Mr Twister....I beg to differ. Keep raising a stink long enough, and you'd be shocked what can happen.

[@Yyyyyy5]

Mr Twister calm down!!!! This is the EXACT same thing society did to black people during the civil rights era. They will get it over time.

[@bigblackrod12]

here's an idea unify talk with states lawmakers, about amplifying treatment, and getting people who are low risk lifetime offenders, and help offenders not only reduce risk factors but maybe AND THIS IS A BIG ONE get them off the registry and Expungment or non disclosure seal that, LAWMAKERS LIKE MONEY AND PETITIONS do that not only will it save money but helps people learn to redeem themselves.

[@mrtwister9002]

@@Yyyyyy5 If I sound bitter. It's because I am. I don't have an excuse.

[@Catherine-l2m8z]

9th amendment you can not hinderer any right previously guaranteed this is a 1st amendment protected infringement i have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness the is a clear infringement on that right

[@NARSOL]

Unfortunately, it is not that simple. There are many regulations we as individuals must follow. For example, to drive we need a license. Is having to get a license considered infringing on a right, or part of the civil regulations we have to follow? Courts repeatedly have (wrongly) ruled that registry requirements are not punitive but civil regulations.

[@stevematson4808]

She has sympathy for the devil.

[@planetbenji1493]

Steve Matson....Uh, clarify, please?

[@Yyyyyy5]

You Steve have sympathy for hate! Way to go!

[@dasouth3441]

ARTICLE 4 LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT Sec. 17. Laws to embrace only one subject. No law shall embrace more than one subject, which shall be expressed it's title. Would this constitute, DOUBLE JEOPARDY: If one is summoned to appear for failure to register and takes it to a Jury Trial, while explaining to the Jury he/she, the reason why the registration has been Unconstitutionally Bestowed to them because they don't want to leave any room for SPECULATION as to why they must register. The second one explains that NOW DEFENDING that Case Again! Does that not lead to DOUBLE JEOPARDY.

[@dasouth3441]

ARTICLE 4 LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT Sec. 17. Laws to embrace only one subject. No law shall embrace more than one subject, which shall be expressed it's title. Would this constitute, DOUBLE JEOPARDY: If one is summoned to appear for failure to register and takes it to a Jury Trial, while explaining to the Jury he/she, the reason why the registration has been Unconstitutionally Bestowed to them because they don't want to leave any room for SPECULATION as to why they must register. The second one explains that NOW DEFENDING that Case Again! Does that not lead to DOUBLE JEOPARDY.