Conference: Legal Challenges to the Sex Offender Registry (Norm Pattis, 2013)

[@timsvea5980]

The public sex offender registry should be abolished.

[@Yyyyyy5]

Yep the registry is bigoted. Racist love things like the registry they love to hate people instead of help people.

[@tracysullivan3715]

AMEN!

[@deannalachelle9319]

I didn’t know how bad these laws are.... They desperately need to be revised. Someone getting more time for a picture than for actual rape of someone is absurd!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@justinrabbitt9492]

I fully agree. Low level stuff that's non physical or violent like having pictures shouldn't be even seen as a felony. It should be a misdemeanor where a fine is paid or they get probation. Yet our justice system is so screwed up and against sex offenders just because it's easy for politicians to use sex offenders to get votes. It all is insane and needs to be redone properly. Where those that haven't actually done anything,physical are let off with misdemeanors and able to rebuild their lives like others. On top of those that don't commit anything for years should be forgiven too and allowed to live a normal life. To all get proper jobs that's not part time if they are lucky and live where they want.

[@TheCc064]

Yeah, I mean the whole pictures thing could be grey area too. Like, someone had an addiction to porn and unknowingly downloaded illegal stuff, or actual pedos hacking a neighbors WiFi so they can get the content without the trouble, or malware, etc, etc. I abhor obscenity with children but there’s always a situation where it really isn’t what it sounds like

[@tracysullivan3715]

The registry needs to be abolished!!! If an offender is deemed violent, thus a true threat to society, then they should remain incarcerated, unless a comprehensive psychiatric evaluation deems them no longer a threat. Otherwise, allow the non-violent offenders and those who didn’t, in any way, commit a crime that was sexual, in nature, i.e, taking a leak behind tree, or viewing porn (not actually touching a child), the chance for redemption, after serving their time. No other crime requires this nonsense

[@tracysullivan3715]

@Rise Over here305 Exactly! This “one-size-fits-all approach is what makes these laws unconstitutional

[@TheCc064]

I feel bad for the offenders who aren’t dangerous. I feel like there should AT LEAST be an accessible path to redemption, or pardon. It would be different if this was for violent sexual predators but they put Bush pissers and Romeo and Juliet scenario people in there. It’s not right

[@kevinf3642]

Yes, it's like putting J Walker's together with cereal killers (and everything in between) and giving them all the title of murders.

[@simafarhoumand8984]

Sex offender registry must be abolish . It is so unconstitutional. Please stop this madness.

[@NARSOL]

We are doing what we can.

[@deannalachelle9319]

I had NO idea that these children are on the registry!!! There shouldn’t be a one size fits all here!!!!!!!! Smh.

[@Yyyyyy5]

Yep in 2006 they started putting children on there and yes a lot of the teens get removed from the registry but even though taken off that stigma doesn’t go away.

[@justinrabbitt9492]

All that I've seen and read pretty much shows the same. The registry, restrictions, and laws against sex offenders specifically are insane. Some need redone while others like the registry should go entirely. It all allows no ability to reenter society in any way after serving a sentence and punishes low level offenders for the rest of their lives. Making those who possessed child porn to pay for the damages when they can hardly even get a job nor a place to live is insane. Things like that should be misdemeanors at best where you pay a fine or do community service then you can still get a good job ECT to live a life. Instead humanity and the so acclaimed justice system treats all sex offences the same. Making it were a murderer, a burglar, violent abuser, drug offenses, or mobster be able to reintegrate back into society with less restrictions. Peeing in public isn't a sex offense cause every human being has done it in their lives at some point. Humanity needs to chamge the laws and make some go away against sex offenders cause they all are causing more harm,than good. Harming the families as well as the offenders longer than it should. Making them outcast anf yet all anyone sees is the name on the registry. Not the time the crime was committed, how many years have passed since then, what exactly it was, or anything. It's all just blown out of proportion by the media, fanning people's emotions, who then blindly believe all sex offenders are the same, and yet the person could have only had a few pictures that they might not have known they had in the first place yet are unable to afford a way to prove it. Or some are charged as kids who didn't know better yet society has branded them for life. Ruining any chance to become a productive member of society and turning the whole country into a prison to which the only way out is death. Even now going as far as putting on a passport that someone is a sex offender is cruel and unusual punishment since no other offense has to do that "yet". The laws against sex offenders need to be redone, some need to go entirely, and the restrictions need to go as well. It's all insane to treat human beings that make a mistake like havong a few pictures punished forever and make it impossible to become a productive member of society again. Everyone deserves that chance and everyone deserves to be happy. Let the low level offenders live their lives happily and no more under insane restrictions as well as cruel laws that really help nobody.

[@justinrabbitt9492]

@Rise Over here305 I know it's got a victim but I'm sure over time they griw tired of being in their 30s getting phone calls reminding them of something they soon realise is never gonna go away since its on the internet forever. Laws need to just accept that truth and make it a misdemeanor if that's all any person busted has. Pay a fine, serve community service, no registry, and put more effort into the physical n violent crimes.

[@tracysullivan3715]

@@justinrabbitt9492 Exactly! This registry is not only inhumane and insane, it’s a waste of tax payers money and a waste of law enforcements time that should be focused on the truly violent offenders

[@huddrr]

Pattis is the kind of man, with the kind of mind, that gives any battered citizen hope that democracy, and some sanity, might triumph. Daring, clarity, reality: the only combination that has every spoken truth to power and made any difference.

[@chrishenniker5944]

Pissing in public should be considered a public order offence.

[@kevinf3642]

Had a drunk piss in the parking lot of a Gallagher concert once, right in front of me, my wife and kids. I almost didn't see him in time to keep from walking through the stream. Yes it was rude, but definitely not a sex offence. I just directed my family around him and we went on about our business. Didn't call the police. Didn't make a big deal out of it.

[@SoulforSale]

Ten years and no progress. Recession even.

[@NARSOL]

It can seem that way. Overall, registry laws have not gone away. There have been victories in some states but no progress in others. The fight is not easy or cheap.

[@SoulforSale]

@@NARSOL it's not a slight to anyone's efforts but a statement about the progress.

[@NARSOL]

Thank you. It was not taken that way. We appreciate your support.

[@davidkennerly]

I would really like to hear the parts that were edited out. He's a dynamite speaker. He's the real-life Saul Goodman ("Better Call Saul").

[@tammielawson6423]

I wanna thank you for your talk. Your an excellent speaker!!

[@badcappincarrot8085]

And in North Carolina if you plead innocent. The D.A. is allowed to keep adding charges until you break. My two became 24 after 3 not guilty pleas.

[@NARSOL]

This is a typical practice that is sometimes referred to as the "trial penalty." It's unfortunate but commonplace.

[@patriotfighter8694]

How do we change those laws??

[@justinrabbitt9492]

No idea but some need to,just be gotten rid of entirely while others need redone better. To limit some crimes to misdemeanors at best. Those that are non violent or non physical should be misdemeanors at best not felonies.

[@bigblackrod12]

wanna team up and figure out how

[@lidacirry9625]

the laws r out of control.ee need to reconsider certain laws

[@RJArens]

Norm, You the man!

[@dwaynewilliams9724]

Excellent speech.

[@kencousens6417]

i enjoyed the video

[@bigdaddi1629]

Yes!!! I love this guy!! “More sex offenders in Robes & Legislation positions than we will EVER know” LOL

[@dem4822]

Sex is not a sin. Sex is morally good. Does no one know the meaning of the fruit of the Tree?

[@johndo_good6562]

Thank You RSOL EVERYONE NEEDS TO REREAD HAWTHORNE>>>THE SCARLET LETTER

[@kevinf3642]

This attorney seems to be very intelligent, but doesn't bestow much confidence, nor gives us much hope.

[@SuperSaddles]

Norm, was listening to your speech for the RSOL group and like my dad use to say if you can't say anything good about someone don't say anything. While I know the sex registry is full of holes and you are trying to use your talents, if you call them talents, you are going at it the wrong way. And yes we are all sex offenders. I even have an article on that one. The thing of it is some of us just haven't gotten caught. While I have to look at the good, bad, and the ugly of life there is a better way to your judicial discretion.

[@jameswaid4234]

No one was left standing. ♥️♥️

[@jamesbeemer7855]

Um , I know about farms and farmers . And him refusing to register is ludicrous because he just admitted to doing a (supposedly) exposition of himself . But guess what ? He’s also a lawyer . How many lawyers do you see go to jail ? NONE . So his points are not relevant . CONGRESS IS FULL OF LAWYERS ! They band together to enact laws . This is good . Right ? But how many lawyers will go back on themselves and tell everybody else , that this is a very bad idea . I hear the supreme court’s argue AFTER THE FACT . And by that time it’s too late . Now what ? You can’t abolish that law . No one will . People get crucified over this subject ! So I have given up .

[@NARSOL]

We have separation of powers. Legislation is passed and courts rule it constitutional or not. That can affect some people negatively, but our political system is built on three separate branches of government. It can be frustrating, that is for sure.

[@jamesbeemer7855]

@@NARSOL what , don’t you think I know that ? But as setup the way it is , some branch of government is supposed to check it out before it moves to the next branch . Someone is not doing their job !

[@NARSOL]

Unfortunately, many politicians pass laws and then hope the courts will find them constitutional.

[@jamesbeemer7855]

@@NARSOL so these lawyers pass the responsibility to the court . Um , in away that could be a good thing . The lawyer is let off the hook . But what if the law procedure wasn’t supposed to work that way to begin with ? Wouldn’t that be an abuse of office ? I believe it is . And you tell me why it isn’t .

[@NARSOL]

I guess one could say they want to see what they can get away with. And they would only do so if the voters won't punish them for doing so.

[@tracysullivan3715]

I ❤️ him

[@michelledeutsch2395]

He ate his children???