SF3: All Known OTGs

Sorry if it's loud. Notes:
General: OTGs are caused by certain knockdown animations not fully removing the opponent's hurtbox. All of them are character specific, and most of them require frame perfect timing. They require specific knockdowns caused by certain throw animations, and quickstanding the throws will cause the OTG to whiff. Note that because you cannot prevent the opponent from quickstanding a throw, most of these are useless in competitive play.
1. Twelve neutral throw, SA1 and instant air SA2. Only works on Hugo, but works anywhere on the screen.
2. Twelve forward throw, SA1. Only works on Oro, only works in the corner.
3. Shoto forward throw, DP super. Only works on Dudley. Applies to Ryu's SA2, Ken's SA1 and SA2, Akuma's SA2, and Sean's SA2. Ken's SA2 and Akuma's SA2 work anywhere on the screen, all the others are corner only.
All of the above OTGs cannot work if the opponent quickstands, as I demonstrate with Sean and Dudley.
4. Oro air throw, SA2/SA3. Only works on Dudley, works anywhere but follow-ups are easiest in corners. Once Dudley is thrown, he cannot escape the OTG. Additionally, Dudley is incentivized to jump out of the corner rather than be subjected to an unblockable from Oro's SA2, and the combo leads to Oro's semi-infinite, so Oro's SA2 is actually quite practical for a real match, albeit highly specific.
5. Akuma Raging Demon, SA2. Works anywhere on the screen. Haven't tested character compatibility, due to the impossible nature of this combo. Requires 3 super bars while Akuma can only store 2, so this combo can only be done with infinite meter in training mode.
An emulator was used for save states and hacks to allow infinite meter, but all of these OTGs exist in the base game. The hacks I used I got from Furitiem's youtube channel. Check this video out for more: • SF3 Third Strike train...

[@sweatysunder4681]

Dudley gets OTGed a lot because a true gentleman is never down

[@miaouew]

"What are OTGs?... Wow he hit him while he was still on the ground...on the...ground...Oh." - me

[@martianparadise]

I think it started with the marvel games?? Could be wrong, but there's very few in street fighter so it's always cool to see

[@duke3250]

i had to google it

[@AJRomeroCCS]

ahh yes, 3rd Strike, the game that keeps tempting me to play but will never be good at it

[@LucasJasche]

such a fun game, shame it's gone. I never got to enjoy it at its glory.

[@blackhairedgoon8218]

Lucas Jasche You can play it on Fightcade right now...

[@Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr]

@@blackhairedgoon8218 yep I'm still on there

[@KageNage]

Don't gotta be the best to have fun

[@sf3testvids]

I know the feeling... love the game but oh boy does the game not love me..

[@kappancrvnch]

Dammit, now I want to play 3rd strike again. Better than SFV in my opinion.

[@blackhairedgoon8218]

Miguel Gonzalez Of course it is lmao, pretty much every mainstream fighting game is better than SFV , it's the worst SF game in quite some time

[@ShortFuseFighting]

why would you ever STOP playing 3rd strike to begin with?and why in gods name would you BUY street fighter 5?by giving them money is like saying its "ok" for them to release that horrendous ,watered down,former shell of itself abomination of a "game".every time they start with the "back to the roots" bullshit,you already know its gonna be some shallow,casula crapfest .back to the roots is game developer talk for "we are destroying the skill gap and removing all complexity in order to make little Jimmy "adhd" McFuckface feel like he can play fighting games without having to pay his dues first"

[@breck8668]

@@ShortFuseFighting because you find the game fun

[@curtissnellings1421]

Short Fuse lol

[@ForeskinTim]

@@ShortFuseFighting Jimmy McFuckface lmao

[@cmnights5158]

0:35 i gotta be honest, i didnt even know ken had this as a super

[@Julian-um2om]

yeah shinryuken is pretty bad you don’t see it ever

[@JacksonParodi]

i was curious about these just last night, haha. this is sick. thanks for showing them off

[@Hadoukenspazam1]

SF 3 rookie here, are there strict timing to these? or are they as simple as much as i think they are. This seriously blew my mind.

[@Bafael]

as I noted in the description, most of them have 1f timing, and almost all of them are useless competitively since the opponent can quick stand to escape it (which you can't prevent)

[@Hadoukenspazam1]

Ohh okay thanks, i couldnt read a description cause i was watching it on my xbone and went straight to my phone to comment without think to check here haha

[@cheetoschrist5685]

@iron ore he quit :(

[@Nice_Boy_555]

@@cheetoschrist5685 oof

[@industrybxzo]

@@Nice_Boy_555 rippp rookie

[@SpockShirtleB3rri3s]

Finally some new Akuma tech- demon into super XD

[@SuperSuccessfulTroll]

wut u mean new they land that in every tournament

[@Vininsky]

...every tournament? You must be trolling

[@NeloGTz]

much of them are dudley only

[@swarthybullxxx]

Twelve having OTG’s isn’t enough.

[@slimballs9650]

If only he had 12 ways to do that.

[@ghostlywind8106]

Twelve is useless

[@awkwardcultism]

Twelve isn't good, but he's not useless. He has very little going for him, but there are some reasons why you would pick him over another character, as opposed to Sean, where there are close to none.

[@henriniemela1746]

Twelve is named after how many times he’s placed top 1 in evo

[@GodRookie]

@@henriniemela1746 That doesnt sound right

[@transformer01]

I'm guessing it's probably too slow, but would Tool-assisted make it possible for Akuma's SA1 from the air possible?

[@GodOfFunk25]

could you give some tips on the weird cross ups that can happen in the corner? like when oro tengu stones and his foward+strong puts him on the other side?

[@Bafael]

+GodOfFunk25 Just block away from the corner. If you block a crossup but then the stones hit anyway then it was an unblockable lol. Oro can easily get crossup unblockables in the corner with SA2 or SA3 against any character he can jump over. Don't get cornered.

[@GodOfFunk25]

That's good to know. I've definitely had that happen before. In the corner its hard to tell because I don't expect stuff to cross up.

[@Darkmage1293]

Oh sure Ryu gets a Throw into Shin Sho but Q can't Deadly Double. I see how it is.

[@hopalongcassidy4260]

very nice video dude I think this is the only sf3 video like this

[@Ilovevidgames123]

Would it be possible to get a video explaining the combo damage scaling system of Third Strike in detail? I've been trying really hard to get good information on it, but I just can't find anything comprehensive. I've taken to trying to use algebra to figure out how multi-hitting Super Arts' internal scaling works, and I can't seem to get the right value for x (if it even can be formulated with a single variable) or even how to set up the equations.

[@Bafael]

I'm not aware of a single resource that accurately lists how DAMAGE works, let alone scaling.

[@Ilovevidgames123]

*sigh* I feared as much. 3S perhaps isn't a great example since it was before the beginning of the age of hyperconnectivity between computers and knowledge being disseminated to the FGC writ large via websites, but it feels like the FGC is really bad about collating complete and accurate information about a particular system in a particular fighting game in one place. Thanks for your reply!

[@irvinempacgroup7088]

I remember way back in the day working on this. Lifebar = 161 points. When lifebar turns orange there is damage scaling up to 20% There is a damage bonus for hitting crouching characters, but this causes a mess because some supers/specials will stand characters and some won't (like hadoken). (This is why I called Ryu the low parry king, because shinkuu hadoken doesn't stand, so a low parry into c. mk into super did like 70 damage) If I recall, the damage toning isn't just from the number of hits, but also from the type of hits. So hence how short short super can do same or more damage than c. mk, fireball super. I never thought of using a formula, i just made a combo list of the most common combos and wrote down their damage. If I recall, what was optimal or not was often very surprising because the game uses modifiers and percentages instead of modifying the lifebar. Hence, if you low parry akuma and get full crouch counter, it does silly amounts of damage because it's multiplicative.

[@CarInMyAss]

@@irvinempacgroup7088 also counter hits, and a bunch of weird stuff like Dudley's cross counter certain people recovering from a taunt or 12 recovering from his super

[@Haliburt868]

How tf do dragon punch supers hit OTG but Makoto's Super Art 2 doesn't?

[@Darksaige]

Dudley can also do the throw into upper super (correction...... Dudley cannot form that setup)

[@Bafael]

Find me footage of this please

[@Darksaige]

@@Bafael I hereby stand corrected. I went back to the video I thought I was referencing which showcased throws into uppercut supers and Dudley would f+mk into that super. The video is old as KZbin. When you replied I had to immediately remember what his forward and back throws were which leaves him nowhere near the opponent. Good catch.

[@Voodoo_monk]

will this work on any port or arcade version of the game?

[@Bafael]

The last one is training mode only because it requires infinite meter, but I believe they're preserved for all ports, yes

[@Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr]

I thought Sean other super works like this too.

[@Ziruno]

If you use aegis reflector and grab someone into it, the aegis reflector otg's them. That's an otg right?

[@davidbielsa5188]

No, they get hit before touching the ground

[@cleangoblin2021]

I'd consider that an otg as well. They already hit the ground during that

[@bluewolf8873]

Whoa... this is a game changer...I didn't know any of this

[@SC4RF4C310]

Is this all by hand or were mods being used?

[@Bafael]

They're not hard to execute by hand but I had to use cheats for infinite meter to show off the Akuma one at the end.

[@SC4RF4C310]

Yeah I could tell but I’m having a hard time with the grab front throw into super in the middle of screen with ken and akuma

[@Bafael]

@@SC4RF4C310 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eILVdaF7gJ2Ynqs this video I made will help you do it every time. It doesn't work if dudley quick rises though

[@baudrate-7577]

How do you play this game on PC, this game looks so fun to play

[@Clouds4Cheap]

look up "fightcade"

[@q295]

Lol you can go to any cheap emulator website i use retrogames.cc

[@egmusic1925]

not sure about the frame data but I don't think 1:23 is an otg. Baf is the Oro king so your probably right tho.

[@bowskiaws5432]

It is. I counted the hits.

[@GlacierWolfeRockee]

What does OTG stand for.

[@Bafael]

Off the ground or on the ground depending on who you ask. It just means hitting someone when they're knocked over, which is not normally possible in sf3

[@GlacierWolfeRockee]

@@Bafael indeed I haven’t seen that possible outside of 3D fighters. Except for ground bounces.

[@WillFizzy]

Dudley has an OTG that you can find in his trials. I think it's forward throw into super (don't know which).

[@Bafael]

+WillFizzy He has no such thing. Ryu has a forward throw into SA2 on dudley in the trails, but dudley has no OTGs at all (that are known). Dudley's trials can be seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGarnJ9up6uofJo

[@WillFizzy]

Ahh my mistake, got him and Ryu confused. It's been some time since I last attempted the trials.

[@Bafael]

:] nbd easy to misrecall

[@CarInMyAss]

The ryu on Dudley you're talking about is literally in the video you're commenting on lol

[@nyodesu]

I have a feeling most of these would be accidentally discovered before some would deliberately try and land them. Tried doing them online in respective matches and got no results. I got the Ryu Shin-Shoryuken one by freak accident because I was mashing to do regular DP in a combo (I use a Switch Pro Controller on online, I'm literally hot garbage at using a stick), and I ended up getting the Shin-Sho. My question is, how many times in tournaments have these been landed? 🤔

[@Bafael]

If the opponent quickstands they literally can't work and you can't prevent the quickstand, so they're basically impossible against a good opponent

[@nyodesu]

@@Bafael Yeah, considering the randomness on the skill of those online players, I won't even bother. 😕

[@CarInMyAss]

I've seen it happen in pools before with someone forgetting to quick rise a lot in a match and he got nailed with the shinsho. I don't think anyone has kept records on how many times it's happened though

[@NickZGames]

If Twelve could do that on anyone he'd at least be slightly better

[@trubb225]

imagine if twelve had that OTG shit on everyone. he'd be wack as hell.

[@donovanchilton5817]

never knew. heh. more 3s baf!

[@DDRUTOU]

OTGs????

[@SuperSuccessfulTroll]

original thailand guru

[@DDRUTOU]

@@SuperSuccessfulTroll real cute....

[@foxypotato3094]

you forgot the Ken throw into dp on q

[@Bafael]

Please show me a video of this.

[@CarInMyAss]

Yeah that'd be new to me

[@TheBasedNinja]

I never knew demon into reppas was a thing, but holy shit fuck that lol

[@danielkruger7589]

+Shinatako At least it's not usable in a real match.

[@DioRando98]

Demon into demon upper.

[@CelsiusZero]

Poor dudley

[@dbgr9875]

Lmao just tech

[@alvaropelaez2827]

This guy in practice mode. Let me see that in a real bout

[@sadetwizelve]

What the fuck is an otg? You explained everything except what it stands for. Thumbs down and flagged!

[@ArkyHeartless]

Off the ground.

[@HasekuraIsuna]

1:02 Is it just me or does the dp whiff?

[@ArkyHeartless]

Actual whiff.

[@adonailr9667]

Sean moment

[@HasekuraIsuna]

So is it actually an OTG?

[@xOceanx99]

@@HasekuraIsuna If you notice, it’s the exact same thing as in the previous clip, except it didn’t work this time because Dudley quickrose out of the setup. The clip is included to show that Sean’s OTG, as well as just about every other OTG in this video, only works if the opponent doesn’t quickrise.

[@HasekuraIsuna]

@@xOceanx99 Oh, I see. I just stumbled upon this video while watching his video about bad balance, and truth be told I've never played any SF so I neither know moves or any mechanics outside the basic, so I completely missed that. Thanks for the explanation.