[SFIV] Momochi (GO) vs Daigo (RY) - 3rd Set

[@DaddeGamer]

Refuse to believe how long it's been :'(

[@TheIntuitive2011]

Tell me about it. :(

[@VicVania]

Beautiful... just beautiful.

[@iniartas]

@nakikiusolang Momochi's demon flip at that moment was the hammer first one, which has very fast recovery time. If you looks closely you can see his palm come out right before he lands and starts the combo with the C MK. He used the demon flip to get to Daigo's feet before he recovered off hit stun from the air hadokens. It's not so much hard to perform as it is hard to anticipate and react off the opportunity. It's another skill that makes momochi such a competitive player.

[@sasoslacek]

This match truly shows the beauty of the game. The characters are so different that a match can not be won through sheer skill, but requires tactical thinking. Normally the Hadouken is a great tool to set the pace, close ground or make inexperienced players jump right into a Shoryuken (ouch), but Momochi uses the air Hadouken to take away the initiative from Daigo, who manages to effectively counter it only in the first round. Daigo's inability to adjust tactics finnally costs him the match.

[@Ink-Eyes88]

I just love how gouki's fire hadoukens prevented daigo from spamming hadoukens so much in the first round. Hadouken lockdown.

[@TasaKun]

Profession and perfection are two very different things.

[@R1ckGex]

i think this is like a psychological game, so when he does the air fireball he can catch his opponent offguard

[@GigaHands]

2:14 Brilliant judgment right there. Not using the ultra, instead going for a combo that raises his super meter, and winning the round as well. Well played, Momochi.

[@Super7826]

Also, I may add that a player who is zoning isn't expecting for their opponent to stay in one spot during the remainder of that match. They anticipate the opponents next move upon releasing a hadoken according to their opponent's play style.

[@telkken]

"Im AKUMA I will teach YOU REAL mean of PAIN "

[@SHONSL]

momochi is very patient not the ordinary aggressive akuma, but strikes opportunity when given the chance niceeeeee

[@fohstick]

lol. teleported into the fireball

[@alexanderegrt]

Do remember that the video was taken in 2008, when everybody's just beginning to try out SFIV, probing here and there for any linkable moves and common tactics used by opponents. I rmb Daigo was caught many times by gouki's air hadoken then. Nearer present, he has adapted to that weakness of his.

[@TrunkJunky]

Wow, Akuma teleported right into that last Hadoken in round 1.

[@SoopaMan2K]

Yeah, that 15 hit combo was crazy.

[@bluasterisk]

If you know what a zoning tactic is, Momochi was trying to bait Daigo in with Hadoukens, If you notice Tatsumaki makes you glide down a bit, so Daigo was somewhat being careful, and if daigo jumped in then he would have gotten Shoryuken'ed. You kinda need to think of what the players are thinking of and why they are doing what they are doing.

[@acabado]

Great match, nice combo from Momochi at 2:45!

[@D3STINY22]

KZbin time bar for when it ends is like a spoiler bar for me

[@xBokkiNx]

2:04 TO 2:16 Absolute domination. you can attack when I'm good and ready.

[@Deimosxsz]

the ultra demon rage

[@Cr1mSiR]

very insightful

[@jDhami6]

What he did there was he did the throw command before he got to Ryu so that it whiffed and the immediately did cr. forward xx lk. hurricane kick. So really he didn't use the actual slide. It's a pretty complex mind game setup and Momochi is godly at them when you really start looking for all the little things.

[@welkorp]

Ridiculously hard combo to pull of at 2:43. Nice!

[@sabishiihito]

I think Infiltration studies these matches.

[@KyReturns]

Momochi's Gouki is on another level...

[@Yerrr800]

dammm that air fireball is no fuckin joke...

[@AelfricLake]

its for timing if you air fireball ryu can hit you with ex fireball when you are going down sometimes which is possible for some other characters too. its about positioning.

[@MoreThanJustAShort]

I love that combo that Momochi does, I don't even need to describe it because you all know what im talking about. He did it when Daigo was dazed. Also, I love how daigo gets people with his super. He finds the perfect time.

[@Deviltriggerfounder]

Wow, Daigo is like a robot. He encountered two throws.

[@bj895]

yeah, same with the fist too. the fireballs add frames to the jump, making it slower, but ,momochi uses it to an advantage by throwing em in the latter half of his back jump arc so theyre safe. most ryus will throw ultras towards a back jump-> ex fireball on the first half of the arc cause it connects, cause akuma cant block, but on th eback half its safe and can be blocked. I've also noticed that the fist is a better option for flip cancelling because it has a hit box

[@Noizy_Katz]

that was AWESOME thats how people sould play i love Daigo

[@Super7826]

Turtling and Zoning are two different strategies actually--turtling being more on the defensive side. Zoning-you're attacking, and controlling space, but at the same time anticipating your opponents next attack and punishing. Turtling-you're basically playing it safe. Most turtles crouch and wait for the opponent to make a mistake. They aren't my terms by the way, these have been around since SF2.

[@kryptonkandor]

Dont blink or youll miss the part were daigo throws a hadouken :)

[@VinceWhoWin]

momochi step in so well.. im so jealous

[@tuber52]

damn those were some amazing gouki combos. i think daigo is struggling with those fireballs cause he is usually the one pressuring his opponents with fireballs and since gouki can do that as well its definatly a harder match for daigo

[@des9206]

Damn Momochi sure is something!

[@HolyMercenaryT]

You have to use combos to get wins with Akuma. The fireballs and demons are just icing on the cake.

[@RAEN74]

man that first round...wow

[@BirdmanBaBaBaBa]

I can't tell if Momochi is very comfortable in the corner or if Daigo is just pushing him there.

[@nastynas9000]

I never knew Mamochi was so good!

[@Jaggnathar]

Momochi eats Daigos lunch and steals his snack money in this battle.

[@WILFACTS]

massive throw escapes

[@thimy69]

To answer at the video description question, it's the game style of each player... Some are doing same tactics all the time, some are ending with a cheap finish, some are turtling. Daigo is not perfect on every aspect of the game but i admire the way he keeps going attacking and trying to put some pressure. Well Momochi seems to be good at zoning, good job.

[@Bhatch2007]

momochi has excellent patience.

[@bj895]

he canceled the flip with a grab right before hitting the ground, then c.med kick into his normal tets shrykn combo. pretty common trick. his flip to fist does the same effect if thrown late right before the ground.

[@Deviltriggerfounder]

3:00 Everyone rise for the most intense battle of all time.

[@rsaran1288]

Akuma's air fireball totally screws up Daigo's ability to attack. Plus, he is very patient, and mixes up his straight up jump with the air fireball so it makes it difficult to predict. Akuma's air fireball to jab, spin kick and uppercut is an effective and low risk combo that Momochi pulls off perfectly every time! He seems to own Daigo in this matchup!

[@Rapture639]

Team matches would be pretty sweet. Although I could also see that breaking up alot of friendships as people would blame each other for messing up and costing them alot of BP lol

[@txedo23]

wow man, thanks again lol, im learning, im learning

[@PsychMan]

@ PSTRIPPLEE when you cancel the shoryuken using the focus cancel, first you have to make sure you have something in your super meter to do the cancellation. Then all you have to do is do the shoryuken, then you have to focus cancel and dash at the same time. So, Shoryuken, Cancel by holding MP and MK, then tap forward twice while in the stance to dash. Lastly, Input the Metsu Hadouken and you have him, but timing is key. He must be at the peak of his fall to make the move connect. Good Luck

[@txedo23]

wow man lol, thanks, i didnt actualy expect anyone to answer my question

[@TypicalPepper]

1:33 SUPER OWNED

[@mannymatrixofwar2]

in certain situations it can also save you.

[@Uohz]

I love Momochi for his conditioning skills. Seriously though, when you can condition someone like Daigo to forget that you have EX Air Hadoken, that's some insane skill.

[@Mignon15]

Look at how Daigo lost the round at 3:32. I think he meant to Shoryuken but used Hadouken instead by accident (the keys for those 2 moves are very close to each other). Lost him the round, but I still think Momochi would've won either way. :P

[@Obioma1]

The arcade machines most likely produce more ambient sounds.

[@DonJuanDeMarco2]

Try scanning the Shoryuken forums for the info. I couldn't even begin to remember which thread it was in. Im guessing it varies form tournament to tournament.

[@Simonio8]

Momochi is the man! Great match.

[@pikachuu2]

epic akuma right there

[@TimBatan]

Momochi is my favorite but I love Daigo's spacing

[@namelessfire]

lol 1:33 i knew he would slide into one of those hadukens sooner or later

[@sabishiihito]

The good old days, when Gouki did actual damage and stun, and Ryu's Ultra did actual damage.

[@CarciVODs]

1:30 was pretty loltastic

[@T.xvii.17]

akuma's ability to float in midair by firing off air hadoukens is imo what throws off daigo. the akuma player executes them flawlessly just before he hits the ground.

[@vertoxz123]

he also uses it to charge his super gauge

[@thimy69]

2:37 nice air fireball to prevent FADC to ultra.

[@LoyalSol]

In SF4 it is harder to actually get that move to hit. You usually have to catch someone when they lag. I haven't seen any reasonable way to combo into it.

[@lildrummerboy65]

Momochi is like a robot

[@Sephlock]

@floeticdeath No the Jiro thing was unrelated :P.

[@LilevilWC3]

I beleive he uses hammer fist to get in then he does a low foward into the combo since he was close enough to hit it after the low foward.

[@Maraxusofk]

he also started maining go after alex valle (best US sf player ever btw) beasted with ryu and showed some amazing new techs.

[@ilbknight]

2:11 rare footage of daigo stunned

[@DonJuanDeMarco2]

Yes i apologise, i was reffering to HD Remix.

[@iam7617115]

that was funny the awkward pause at 1:20... but this was a good match...

[@FkNSRS]

LOL always good to watch lol

[@pongking]

epic match

[@flushes]

I have never seen anyone kick the shit out of Daigo like Momochi does in that second round. Ouch.

[@Killcycle1989]

Stupid mistake at 3:33. That weren't professional, sorry.

[@Deimosxsz]

yeah, im starting to think the same thing. he is an excellent player.

[@yode24]

anyone know why at 3:25 akumas red hadou gets canceled by ryus single hadou?

[@Reason_over_Dogma]

@Sephlock haha, wrong comment for wrong video, I removed it. Sorry

[@Jaggnathar]

hmm that would have been a prime opportunity but guess it wasnt necessary. as fast as these guys are on the stick/button daze opportunitys probably dont last long at all so its probably sounder strategy to finish fast as possible.

[@Fuidama]

I actually think it's the coolest looking link but I guess that's just me. Such clean execution...

[@Deimosxsz]

the impressive thing , is that momochi never uses DR.

[@ASlopedRoof]

3:00 for hadouken battle

[@Umi_Pumi]

yeah, he is.

[@PsychMan]

I don't want to make this sound offensive, but doing an Ultra Raging Demon while your opponent is stunned seems to be more of a noob move someone would use to end the match, and Momochi clearly isn't a noob. He plays Akuma so effectively that he doesn't really need to use an Ultra. Its there for him when he needs it in other situations but from what I've seen with him in this match and others, and in those videos, I haven't seen him even attempt it.

[@DonJuanDeMarco2]

Akuma is officially out of tournaments anyway.

[@Nekros4442]

Daigo actually played it right in this set imo, He tries to zone kill Akuma (Zoning is a classic strategy where Shotokan characters "Ryu,Ken" continually use hadokens to control the horizontal space and shoryukens to control the vertical space against a character like akuma 1 mess up would've been destructive but seems Momochi taught Daigo he has to work on his Zoning Strategy

[@mcyashi]

damn only momochi can time raging demon perfectly

[@arsonne]

@ZigZagRunner This video is of SF4 Vanilla. Akuma loses to Ryu 6-4. Daigo has since figured out the match and he and other Ryu's like Air never lose to Akuma. Daigo himself says the match is 6-4 in Ryu's favor.

[@Riot_Van13]

i know man but it doesnt take away any credit away from momochi.... Daigo is top notch and he got owned this match

[@DonnyZofChaos]

Best part of the match.

[@WuMingTV]

sure if you do it after a short combo it gives +80. But mostly it might not be worth it unless you have the ex advantage. Ie. vs Ryu it will bother u a lot if enemy gets super while you got only 0 or 1 bar after you've done that combo. But with ex adv &/ finish it's a very nice addition.

[@socillizt4life]

momochi is a demon akuma.amazin'

[@xKanye]

3:30 to 3:35 is pure ownage

[@MoveLegacies]

Basicallly, all u guys fell in love with Daigo in that K v C-L match. I think 3rd round of that match was a little 2 flashy on D's part, Justin went 4 a careless guard crush tactic as Ken's hp was like 1,btw I say careless cause of the distance between K and C-L wen he did it. Honestly Daigo could've easily leaped over C-L and done his thing but decided to show off with it...

[@Thisez]

I thought exactly the same thing, thx to express it in words :P

[@nakikiusolang]

@iniartas thanks! i thought he was using the slide!

[@realkhumanbean]

actually it does matter, i tested it out today. You can't juggle with akuma's medium and hard shoryuken.