Giants GM on Hard Knocks: 'This is the year for Daniel Jones,' is team making a mistake? | SPEAK

Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones react to New York Giants GM Joe Schoen saying on Hard Knocks that "this is the year for Daniel Jones" while deciding not to pay Saquon Barkley. The crew then debates whether the Giants are making a mistake by giving the keys to Jones.
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Giants GM on Hard Knocks: 'This is the year for Daniel Jones,' is team making a mistake? | SPEAK
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[@krookedletta662ms4]

Joy’s take was trash

[@sj3084]

the o line has been bad since eli so its hard to judge the giants qbs

[@Anthony-jd8pg]

Facts. And that is what the majority fail to ever mention. With no O-Line you have ZERO shot of serious success as a starting NFL QB.

[@SimeonToko]

And RB

[@RedBeardRey]

People act like a good QB can do it all alone. Look at Joe Burrow. He definitely is elite but even he can’t make it to the superbowl with the o-line he’s had which was just as bad as the Giants. Like why do we think a QB thats constantly scrambling is gonna make ANYTHING happen? I agree with Scheon. Give him a chance with weapons and protection. If he can’t compete then, then no harm no foul. He can get released next season. Give him a FAIR CHANCE

[@Anthony-jd8pg]

@@RedBeardRey Well said.

[@chez3869]

This oline excuse old, in 5 years you don't have any memorable throws 🤣 wen we see nfl promos they don't ever show a Daniel jones throw

[@kingmo6503]

He got more playoff wins than tua 😂😂😂

[@w00deey12]

So does Jimmy G dafuq does that mean?

[@javonuzumaki21]

​@@w00deey12 Yea and its not like jimmy g had a better team than Dj or anything....

[@javonuzumaki21]

​@@w00deey12 Its not like tua has a better team either

[@aharr084]

What is that saying? Tua trash too

[@w00deey12]

@@javonuzumaki21 how good were the Texans when CJ Stroud came in?

[@MrAllenVII]

I don't believe in Daniel Jones at all but Acho is right, this is more on the front office. From drafting him that high, not surrounding him with great talent and letting Saquon leave.

[@jmwasp]

A previous front office drafted him that high. Schoen is stuck with him because of the owner

[@EmperorMeech]

They literally gave him 2 pro bowl Tight ends who both SUFFERED with him

[@almonjoseph4382]

honestly saquon is injury prone so even paying him if he just gets hurt what does that do to help jones ?

[@Twiist585]

@@EmperorMeechwhat two pro bowl TE’s ? Darren Waller who is always hurt? And last made a pro bowl when ? And who else ?

[@Chosen_One215]

@@almonjoseph4382that’s what they said about CMC too now look at him

[@407kronikels.]

This was the worst 23 mins of football analysis ever

[@darrengordon5197]

@@407kronikels. I felt the same way they looking for content and jones is an easy victim!!

[@MoreNYGPlease]

@@darrengordon5197 is take your emotions out of and talk about it possible his last year. 1 of them 3 haters gotta get replaced.

[@GiggityGiggity_Jawn]

Yo is that you DJ!?!? 😂😂

[@ronniewayne4392]

Daniel is terrible lol

[@derran04]

But they justify Trevor Lawrence

[@FSamuels20]

The media like Trevor before the draft

[@ahmedegal6808]

bro trevor is 10x better than dj chill

[@vktor5730]

@@ahmedegal6808No he isn’t, they literally have similar numbers, y’all are so biased 🤡 its ridiculous

[@angelrosado5349]

@@ahmedegal6808 look at the stats buddy before you speak college ball dont mean nothing when you get to the nfl

[@ahmedegal6808]

@@angelrosado5349 watch da games lol what does dj do better than trevor plz enlighten me

[@champagnekhas]

With Saquan we barely could score 2 TDs a game last year that’s the offense?

[@MeBihhhh]

Your boy just sucks

[@SimeonToko]

Schoen can make excuses for Jones behind that line, but you guys can't do the same for Barkley? You are biased.

[@troybenson5767]

Thai offense is gonna look very different this year, with the way that this team has played offense last year that’s a good thing.

[@HorFell]

@@SimeonTokoBarkley gets himself tackled in the backfield dancing around vs hitting the gaps. The call him Saquan but he’s afraid to run north and south. The year Daboll came in and had him run north and south was his bounce back year. Last year they struggled and he got to dancing again and had a mediocre season. Singletary who the Giants signed cost 90% less with the same numbers

[@TexanEagleFan]

​@@HorFelly'all have a bad line and SaQuon was the only threat y'all WRs are trash 😂😂😂

[@AndySimmons-p4q]

Watch him this season.. he will shock everyone. Very slept on player, he had no O-line to protect him. How is he supposed to get the ball off? Be real.

[@Thecyborgman]

Year 5 of this excuse lmao. This the nfl bro, not all teams are created equally, he still hasn’t adapted. Horrible line but somehow saquon gets in that end zone consistently, horrible line but when backups come in they play better than him… bad line but he throws INTs left and right. It’s ok to admit he’s not good lol Ryan Tannehill had a bad line for years and still had pro bowl numbers. Sam Howell had an atrocious line and he was still more impressive as far as playing qb than Daniel, he just threw too many INTs.

[@OscarUnrated]

He’s only slept on cause people say he’s awful when really he’s average. Yes he’s better than people say, no he’s not very good

[@MikeJones-zd6xi]

I’m a Giants fan, I don’t think DJ is that good but 2 things can be true. His best WR in his entire career has been Darius Slayton a 5th round pick from auburn he’s had 700+ yards 4-5 seasons. WTF do u think a weapon like Nabers can do? We’ve had 1-2 Legit O linemen in DJs 5 years he’s on his 3rd coach 2nd GM that did not draft him but did pay him n believe there was heavy ownership pressure to do that after the playoff win. So when that GM says yeah it’s time for the 40M QB to put up or shut up after another season full of injuries. With upgrades in key positions WR,OL build a good team for whoever the QB is instead of thinking having 1 really talented/good RB is a QBs best friend and will fill all of the other holes on the team. Saquon is a beast n will ball in Philly but they’re acting like we weren’t below the Eagles n Cowboys with him not to mention his injury history and high usage. Either DJ will prove his worth or he’ll get cut 😂 it’s simple but still build the actual foundation to the team OL, WR instead of making the RB the foundational piece

[@MoreNYGPlease]

Right...expected we can't draft a QB out of Duke the flop everywhere else.

[@chemdrum]

FACTS

[@MiaJiyar_XOXO]

Daniel Jones is not an elite QB but come on.... He had one of the worst offensive lines in the league. His offensive lines were getting forklifted into his lap. People are way to harsh on DJ.

[@jameshollister8294]

DJ offensive lines rankings his whole career would like to see. I know it bad but how bad. For 2019-2023 I know it been bottom of league thou

[@sgthomas1266]

One of the worst offensive lines of all time actually. Last year they allowed the second most sacks all time. 😂

[@chrisallen3333]

LMAO wait til u see him this year. He will get benched lol

[@kodyjefferson8976]

What I don’t understand when you have scrubs in front of you they expect you to pull a rabbit 🐇 out of your hat 🎩 insane 👎💯🔥

[@lildripnation3462]

@@sgthomas1266 thank you ts was hard to watch by week 5 we had 3 practice squad players starting for us

[@MatthewKenny-vm9vz]

Whos the dumber GM? The GM who drafted Jones 6th overall or the GM who gave him 40 million a year??? Think about it

[@morbidville5316]

Boff

[@traivonhearn6949]

Capital B Capital O Capital A Capital F

[@rskt555]

I always think the armchair qb is the dumbest. That’d be you Matthew

[@user-bf8um5oj9q]

Giving DJ that money is a fireable offense but there are questions whether it was him or the owner who gave DJ that money

[@mose4474]

Definitely the one who drafted him. Jones led the giants to a playoff birth and a win on his contract year, any GM would give him a second contract. This narrative that schoen is dumb for that js absurd

[@Bigp352]

It's a weird day when Acho is the voice of reason 😂😂😂

[@x1r1y]

Give him a good offense and then judge him He won a playoff game with that trash offense

[@IamBlackMagic03]

As a cowboys fan I admit if they wanna truly evaluate him you have to put something around him, but at same time 5-6 years in they're at point they have to consider moving on. At 3-4 years I can see trying to ride it out some more, but 5-6 years in it's time to consider possibly moving off him

[@dantheman8152]

If Jones flops again, the GM should be fired because according to him, its not DJ's fault.

[@troybenson5767]

I wouldn’t bet against him

[@MoreNYGPlease]

why when the owner and Eli Manning are in Daniel Jones Corner.

[@mose4474]

You have no idea who Joe schoen is. He’s definitely not being fired, not his fault

[@Greeneyes0605]

100%

[@bayodefashemi9622]

Gentleman drafted him and retired before he got fired

[@MeBihhhh]

They named a bunch of players for the bears that weren’t there at the same time 😂

[@giffondhall9214]

You know it's a slow day in sports when they talk about the giants 😆

[@captainchaosxx3866]

Honestly refreshing as a cowboys fan. Not having them talk about Daks contract for the umpteenth time.

[@that_dudemr1286]

Eh I would say it’s kind of expected I mean it’s literally a team on Hard Knocks now they tend to talk about Hard Knocks whenever it is out

[@Skeptik-pe6ze]

Yeah lol I love the giants they never talk about them

[@sonseed7541]

@@captainchaosxx3866 CRY

[@adonijahdelancy6722]

Giants low key has more superbowls than your favorite team. Keep calm and stay humble bro/ sis.

[@Stickyfingaz954]

“I play roulette or craps, people give me money & I look cute” Absolute silence from her 3 cohosts🤣😂 So cringy 😭

[@justinlawrence4658]

lol Yea I think she used that opportunity to say that on purpose because of the backlash she received from her IG posts.

[@Swaggmire215]

Yea that was really weird lol

[@JackDavidson-zg2be]

She never kno what she’s talking about 😂😂😂

[@jayhopkins3329]

Shady look 40 with that hairline, I got you JJ 😢😂

[@charliegee8878]

😂

[@ImDaJerk-pp3ti]

I didn't want to say anything but it's obviously noticeable 🤷🏾‍♂️🤣💯

[@sonseed7541]

@@ImDaJerk-pp3ti glazing

[@sonseed7541]

its actually normal but go ahead and glaze jj

[@sonseed7541]

@@charliegee8878 ur whie he stole ur girl lil bro

[@Jake_Hoyt]

Joy, Giants been beating Washington...why does that change now?

[@treymoneyy6056]

lmaooo exactly!!!! it’s like they don’t watch giants at all like wtf.. ik daniel fake dirt but cmon

[@prestigeshogun1534]

Because Washington is doing all of the right things. Not a fan of them, but I see them sweeping the Giants with surprisingly little effort.

[@shmeet942]

Same stats as T Law and he gets 55 mil per year but DJ at 40 per year with an out after this year is overpay, got it

[@Slaughterh0use88]

Exactly they're just talking some pure nonsense

[@jaylegend4959]

They don’t do their homework just 3 dummies talking

[@davidburks4657]

DJ got his nickname, Danny Dimes, because of his accuracy. What choice did the Giants have? You guys act like the Giants had other options.

[@gmabailey40]

Hes not accurate though. A rookie qb put up better stats last year with similar attempts. NYG have the worst fans. There is multiple issues yes but Jones is not good.

[@davidburks4657]

@@gmabailey40 Let's circle back after the season

[@jordan-uo7vo]

They laughing at his pass yards but can’t name his wr who’ll start anywhere else and they tried ignoring that point when Acho made it

[@brianbrowm2630]

They don’t watch the giants fr, they watch the worse highlights and then make topics. They didn’t discuss when DJ led the comeback against cardinals but laughed at DJ when the giants were blown out 40-0

[@mikellbull]

That was the only point he had but true

[@user-qw7xq7ni9p]

hmm. I see a trend...can't draft o-line, can't draft WR, so, can't draft QB. Did draft thebno trainers of RBs with Saquon. So, whatbam I missing. DJ is just like all the other players on the GMen...not good enuff.

[@ahmedegal6808]

TYROD TAYLOR IS WAYYYY BETTER THAN HIM GTFOH

[@ahmedegal6808]

@@user-qw7xq7ni9p SO WHY DOES TYROD MAKE THE OFFENSE LOOK 10X BETTER.... DJ MAKES THE OLINE LOOK WORSE THAN IT IS HE PANICS

[@tonyfrench5450]

These guys talk like they are unaware of Cap implications, and Brian Burns was the biggest move the Giants made this offseason, not drafting Malik Nabers. A healthy Wandale Robinson along with the development of Cager and Theo Johnson at the TE position also helps. A bit surprising how unsophisticated this conversation was.

[@sonseed7541]

Keys to Daniel? Nah give him a Car seat😭

[@ahmedegal6808]

TYROD TAYLOR WAY BETTER BUT HE GETS NO RESPECT

[@cjfrm3658]

Give him a scooter 🚌

[@lildripnation3462]

@@ahmedegal6808tt was never better man got injured every other game

[@lonnellgrigsby1367]

Lmao 😂

[@lonnellgrigsby1367]

@@lildripnation3462you can’t be serious man lol

[@mikaeloliver6698]

Jalen Hurts' best season only threw for 3800 and 23 tds

[@MoreNYGPlease]

they be forgetting

[@jakelz9885]

Ok so let’s say you were the gm of the giants and Philly said right now straight up I’ll give you jalen hurts for Daniel jones as the gm for the giants you’d tell them no right? You’d say no Jalen sucks right?

[@michealjordan808]

But joy always saying don't do that meaning comparing QB's to Jalen like he ain't only have 1 good year !!!! He not Tom Brady she kills me with that !!!!

[@cblack8114]

Add the 15 rushing TDs like they do for DJ, thats 38 to DJ 22

[@Northridge]

@@cblack8114 Hurts playing behind a top o-line since he's in the league, for the most part with a good to very good WR squad, a very good TE. All things Daniel Jones never had. Not saying Jones is better, but it's just not really fair to compare them just like that.

[@sj3084]

shout out to acho for sticking to his guns...lets be honest what weapons do the giants have

[@jayphoenixBahamas]

this season his the first time they have a legit balanced attack.. it will come dow to health and online play. defense will win games, nabers johnson and robinson will show out this season

[@real7706]

It won't matter DJ sucks

[@captainbeyondfit8401]

“WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cjfrm3658]

He been in the league for 6 years I love Excuses

[@brooklyntony9082]

Ok so in those 6 years name 1 WR that would start on the other 32 teams and name 1 year where he had anything close to an O line. Barkley was great and did most on his own (after contact) make it make sense

[@MoreNYGPlease]

this is a fact 6 years with least amount of help is crazy. This was statistically proven.

[@tjr2312]

@@brooklyntony9082no excuses if you’re that guy get it done. The other great QBs get it done and show flashes of greatness every season

[@AyeeeJP]

@@brooklyntony9082There was enough talent there that if Jones was anything but pure garbage you would see some flashes or spurts of high level play. Not elite or top five but above average play, and he has never shown that once

[@brooklyntony9082]

@AyeeeJP lol just you saying that there was talent funny af my boys been garbage for 10yrs long so you can't really tell me about talent on the roster. Saquan and that is it. Jones is a backup at best and Gettleman f**ked the franchise up and it's the rebuild now so say what you want but we just now starting to put talent on the field. I'll be the 1st to say cut him if he can't win with Nabers, Hyatt, and Robinson.

[@morganyu812]

You know its a weird episode when Acho start making sense

[@jeanhoyos7497]

They deadass just hating,he bad but they draggin the hate,shady a bum

[@travisjohnson9066]

Absolutely

[@bd3707]

Change Daniels race and I bet you at least 1 of them changes their opinion 😂😂😂😂

[@nikeguy2]

@@bd3707You don’t need to change his race, Jones’ stats are comparable to Lamar Jackson’s…. If this was about Lamar, the desk would be soaked in spit when they finished.

[@Dipset415]

@@nikeguy2the game is bigger than the stat sheet jabroni 💯🫵🏿😭

[@tyleraviles4518]

@@nikeguy2nah Lamar stats and the eye test tell much more . Dj can’t touch Lamar’s jock strap and I’m a giants fan

[@adriantucker5593]

they cooking DJ right now 😂😂

[@Anthony-jd8pg]

@ 3:13, Acho uses logic & reason to make his point, Shady is just emotional, yapping for shock value and NEVER addresses the points that Acho made and never has. Well, WHY is he trash McCoy??? Schoen even said Mahomes couldn't survive with the line Daniel Jones had last year, facts.

[@CaVa2026]

Shady is a hater, point blank! SMH

[@kevinstewart8054]

Schoen will be looking for work in 3 years. Mahomes wins 10 games with this roster. He went to a Super Bowl with a bad line against Tampa.

[@Anthony-jd8pg]

@@kevinstewart8054 Stop it. Did you truly follow the Giants last year? Of course not. You think Mahomes would win 10 games last year with practice squad linemen blocking for him & no TRUE #1 wideout? A franchise record 76 sacks allowed last season. 10 games??? Put down the drink buddy.

[@Nick-zs1kx]

@@Anthony-jd8pg People think Mahomes is superman. Dude Lost to a 45 year old Tom Brady but he is the GOAT already lmaooo.

[@Twiist585]

⁠@@Anthony-jd8pg84* sacks

[@rich9536]

If daniel jones doesnt play well we already fixed the oline and a much improved wr corps. We are not doubling down on our mistake we are setting it up for the the next guy

[@rizzo8896]

As a giants fan, hearing this convo hurts but it's all true. However I think they forget to talk about how the salary cap plays into some of these decisions

[@modestomouso1234]

Other teams make it work with the cap though… there are a ton of teams that are loaded on both sides of the ball that operate under the same cap

[@michaelpecorale3202]

@@modestomouso1234lmao yall r stupid we couldn’t cut him until after this year upcoming it doesn’t help the cap to keep paying him more in the future then to eat it this year listening to this and agreeing with them shows u how little ball u know

[@jameskropp8033]

How do you build around your quarterback if you don’t have weapons and an offensive line to help him out? 3 people on this panel don’t even think about that.

[@coachjames5952]

I swear there is some selective hearing. They saying it's the same team but the Giants got o line help, Nabors and the younger receivers on the roster will grow. However, this is Daniel's last chance though 😂

[@Slaughterh0use88]

Agreed

[@andresdixson1779]

Agreed

[@ajkareem5685]

😂😂 seriously. But then will turn around and say lamar needs more, allen needs more, MAHOMES needs more. These “elite” qbs always seems to need something when they are losing, even mahomes..

[@avimohan-ram3946]

The only thing crazy is Shady’s take.

[@lawrenceturner5882]

All his takes are crazy

[@lebdvusa]

And his hairline

[@Jake_Hoyt]

@avimohan-ram3946 that guy so disrespectful...he forgot he rode the bench on the road to them rings.

[@Slaughterh0use88]

Shadys take always stupid af. Dude rode the bench for his 2 sb rings and thinks he can talk the way he does about people. He wasn't even needed to win a title! 😂😂

[@RiioTzZHD]

​@Slaughterh0use88 that's my only beef with him, lol yeah he was an awesome running back but he talks way too crazy and is too prideful for literally riding the bench to two super bowl rings

[@Willie68wr]

The Daniel Jones hate is real!!

[@randomanton]

and reasonable

[@Osmosis-jy6xp]

The daniel jokes slobber and excuses are even more real

[@itsabulldogsworld]

Put jalen hurts on the Giants and DJ on the eagles let's see how good Jalen Hurts is..

[@James-cq5sy]

Shii put any qb behind that line we’ve had for 5 years with no weapons 😂

[@tjr2312]

Burrow played behind trash Olines, let’s not blame Oline for DJ he’s not the guy let’s be honest

[@James-cq5sy]

@@tjr2312 and what does burrow have ? All pro WR in Chase, 2x 1,000 yard 6+ TD Pro bowl snub WR in Tee Higgins, Tyler Boyd, Joe mixon pro bowl in 2021 burrow was drafted in 2020 Burrow situation despite a bad o line doesn’t sound comparable! Next QB !

[@randomanton]

u think ur saying something 🤭

[@CultureofExcellence24]

@@tjr2312stop it! Jamar chase and T Higgins.

[@theonlytashab]

They’ve been so whiny lately 😅

[@gabbs140]

This was quite harsh on DJ. There's criticism, and then there's kind of chatising, which doesn't help anyone. Whether right or wrong on the topic, I'm just glad that Acho was respectful to DJ in this segment.

[@ItsFlamoFTW]

i agree even though acho he not a fan of Daniel jones he knows that daniel jones hasnt had the best help in his career. this is my personal opinion. daniel jones rookie year was promising because he had 24 tds and 12 interceptions and lets be honest who was on that team other than him barkley and sterling that helped jones. And i agree to acho point if you pay someone 40 million dollars you want to make sure you think what he is by putting the best cast around him and after that you can get a fair assesment on him. With all honesty I really feel daniel jones can be a starting qb in the NFL, im not sure if he can be ELITE, but i do believe this year is the best balance team he had in his career and i will say to you guys if he performs the way he has in the past especially with this team this year, then i have no problem letting him go becaus eno i can say he is definitely not a good qb even with a competing roster around him.

[@supasmiley1]

HE SUCKS

[@waveteamgang1911]

@@ItsFlamoFTW I TOTALLY AGREE LIKE DANIEL JONES I DONT THINK IS AMAZING but now with this kind of roster around him lets see what he does and if he underperforms, let him walk, no more excuses its time to shut them up or be shut up

[@brianbrowm2630]

It’s like that every time they “discuss” Daniel Jones, they should all be ashamed for the meat riding they do with other QBs like hurts but be so harsh on QBs like DJ

[@gamingboii8697]

@@supasmiley1 you are the ingnorant fcks that were born yesterday like you dont see shii u just hear based off the media, you a follower make your own assesments

[@franknoneofya9585]

If she thinks the best thing he does is run, how the f is she being paid to give an opinion?

[@Slaughterh0use88]

Right!! She gets paid to run her mouth with nonsense coming out!! 😂

[@andresdixson1779]

Just to be controversial, get people to watch that trash. Acho I apologize, but your crew are trash

[@KingQ-ht6wy]

I think Daniel Jones gonna shut them up this year

[@danbigblue7422]

Man i hope DJ shuts every one up dont need to be pat mahomes but just be top 10-15

[@future2995]

What they don’t understand about the no help , how awful the whole team has been. The giants have been bad for the last 10 seasons . Finally DJ has something to work with. All these other top QBs have multiple weapons and a defense to bail them out.

[@RedBeardRey]

These are people who clearly don’t pay as much attention to the Giants. Eli at the end of his run had a terrible o-line. Then we had major coaching and GM issues. We finally got a competent GM and HC but had inherited the terrible decisions of the front office prior. This is the true start to the Scheon/Daboll era. 2024 I believe (correct me if i wrong) is the first season where Scheon and Daboll pretty much built this squad. Its going to be an interesting season for the Giants

[@Osmosis-jy6xp]

No help he was no help . Yall trying to throw everyone and under the bus like theyre the sole reason he sucks. Wild

[@future2995]

@@Osmosis-jy6xp he literally hasn’t had a receiver get him 1,000 yards , last year the giants gave up the second most sacks in history. All these other qbs have elite guys all around them. Us makings the playoff a couple years ago wasn’t even expected. Daniel jones deserves blame for why the giants haven’t been good but not all the blame is his responsibility. I dot know if you watch giants games but I do buddy. You see him throw picks where receivers slip or the pass gets batted up in the air , it’s bs to blame DJ for everything. Saquon had been running behind a terrible line his entire career. Imagine he had been running behind a cowboys line instead of zeke , saquon would’ve been a multiple time pro bowler. The giants have been bad for a long time and it’s gonna take a lot more dawgss to get this team right

[@Osmosis-jy6xp]

@@future2995 the wrs havent had a qb to get them 1000 yds lol.

[@jaylegend4959]

3 dummies n Acho 🤨

[@nafisstewart8306]

Jalen hurts hasn’t thrown 25 touchdowns yet what are we talking about

[@jrcrit8843]

Jalen Hurts made it to a Super Bowl and outplayed Jones so what’s your point clown?

[@flyparks3224]

But Jalen went to SB and showed out.

[@joelcarlisle1389]

And had almost 4K yds not barely clearing 3k 😂

[@bobbysbreakdowns]

Jalen is clutch and can lead a team to victory ya boy DJ could never bro

[@lildripnation3462]

@@bobbysbreakdownscheck dj 2022 season he was the definition of clutch and ya boy Jalen hurts has never been clutch dawgs a choker

[@mikeymike2524]

people love to bring up the 80m... i mean just look at what t law is getting and then compare his first 48 starts against danny's. They are nearly exactly the same and tlaw is getting double LOL

[@darrengordon5197]

im sure they hope this ages well.

[@christianarredondo4153]

They all gonna eat those words mid way through the season lol

[@Christian-xr7hc]

funny joke

[@dannyduds1058]

Daniel Jones year 6 breakout 😂😂😂 you a clown

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

It’s a pair of two-year contracts-one guaranteed and the other outfitted with a trap door. Plus, he got a playoff win. Yes, this may be his last chance, but we’re focusing on building the team around him to better his chances. He’s my QB until he isn’t.

[@miketyson7189]

The Giants should have never paid DJ. Just move on cut ties he has never showed you any flashes of being him.

[@brianbrowm2630]

@@miketyson7189 Vikings playoff ? Cardinals 2024 ? Rookie season ?

[@derran04]

And get know who jameis Carr jj McCarthy

[@daquaylenavie3740]

@@brianbrowm2630Vikings defense was terrible and nobody believed in them anywayz.

[@africasupreme3]

You see now ya say that but when was pay Saquon vs Jones everybody brought up Saquon jury history.

[@brianbrowm2630]

@@daquaylenavie3740 13-4

[@user-lr1ng7xy8w]

That was a waste of time. Shady and Joy literally refused to answer every question Acho asked. Turned it into another one of their Daniel jones hate videos. When the question was supposed to be about judging the move and thinking process of the GM

[@HorFell]

Exactly. Shady is mad because he’s a retired RB. Don’t know Joys beef. But Shady can’t handle that the Giants didn’t want to pay an injury prone RB on the wrong side of 25 who still barely helped their offense last year 12+ million. For Barkley Giants got Burns, Runyon and Olumenor. And a RB with Barkley numbers the same year.

[@shawnwilliam1802]

Joy’s ego is gross

[@MoreNYGPlease]

very

[@theguardian1142]

No lies told

[@Slaughterh0use88]

🎯 tired of her being on this show

[@ericcuevas4497]

It’s hard to “make a play” like they’re saying, when there’s NOBODY to make a play to 😂

[@mrs.romansdelight4091]

I wouldn’t even say all pro 😂😂😂 Shady be hilarious 😂

[@bigltrainworldtv4836]

😂 I love this show

[@ajkareem5685]

ACHO STANDING ON BUSINESS!!! RESPECT🔥🔥

[@future2995]

Tell her get on the field if she so good , that jacket already look like she got on shoulder pads

[@projectp24]

The chiefs led the league with dropped passes from receivers this year by a land slide and still won the Super Bowl

[@MoreNYGPlease]

Kelce, a defense, Baby goat and Andy.

[@projectp24]

@@MoreNYGPlease 😩😩aching said wide recievers that’s why I referred to worse recievers 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Nick-zs1kx]

@@projectp24 kelce is a wide reciever playing te dont get it twisted

[@TheRealfan1]

@@MoreNYGPlease Do you remember how Andy Reid choked in big games before he got Mahomes? Mahomes hides Reid's flaws and takes over when Reid thinks about bad play calls.

[@kamarimoorehead6922]

Did acho just sneak diss Stephen A Smith about there are people on TV asking for 20 million per year lol 🤣

[@SatAttack]

I caught that too 😂😂

[@mariogallego5513]

bro that was totally a sneak diss lol I loved Joy's response to that tho. "But those people are putting up numbers year after year after year" lol

[@Twinjay123]

“They playing fantasy football in there.” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@chuckroach1485]

Schoen didnt draft Jones but he paid him! Is that even worse?

[@JohnPArgueta]

That last point by Shady tells it all. He’s mad that running backs are the valued. Cranky Old heads

[@NathanDean79]

Acho what you are saying about Daniel Jones and the Giants is misleading. Yes he didn’t and doesn’t have any Pro Bowl offensive linemen but he has something even better. He has an All Pro left tackle. Andrew Thomas was an All Pro in 2022. And in 2021 and 2022 Daniel Jones did have a Pro Bowl WR in Kenny Golliday. Kenny was a Pro Bowler in 2019 with the Detroit Lions. Also Danny Dimes had Evan Engram who was a Pro Bowl TE while with the Giants.

[@xavierbarrios2418]

Oh please please please shut up you sound dumb asf 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@gloxkswolf0962]

You mean butter fingers Evan Engram that costed us games left and right??? Kenny Golladay post hip surgery knowing he wasn’t going to be the same receiver but yet Dave Gettleman still signed him? Andrew Thomas is extremely good but he’s literally the only one on that offensive line and when he’s out the offense and even saquon can’t do anything without AT. Bro be serious

[@HiQuis]

@@gloxkswolf0962you already know that dude did not watch games and is looking at transactions

[@Slaughterh0use88]

Aww you tried lol

[@Slaughterh0use88]

​@@HiQuisyo foreal!! 😂😂😂

[@davealexander5268]

I think the absolute worst part is , spending almost 24 minutes talking about Daniel Jones. 😂😂😂

[@anthoneykarimbey6156]

Lamar has never had a probowl wide out

[@jdtalks8023]

Shady said it a lot of GM's are playing fantasy football

[@charleslongwell645]

Why is it when Jones puts up 3200Passing 15TDs 5INTS 760Rushing 7TDs it's a garbage season for a QB Hurts in 2022 3701Passing 22TDs 6INTS 760Rushing 13TDs and that is Elite the numbers are not that different and Hurts had the leagues #1 O line 2 pro bowl WRs a Pro Bowl TE the #1 Defense Jones had the #30 OL and was throwing to Richie James you think if Jones had the guys Hurts had in 2022 he wouldn't have been able to put up another 500 yards This season 2023 Lamar Jackson was the MVP 3678passing 24TDs 7INTS 821Rushing 5TDs thats 500 yards and 7TDs more than Jones in 2022 and again Lamar had a top 5 O LIne the #1 Defense and a Pro Bowl TE to throw to his numbers are not much better than Jones had in 2022 and Lamar won the MVP while Jones 2022 season is considered sub par make that make sense Lamar has 1 playoff win Hurts has 2 and Dak has 2 Jones has 1 playoff win Jones as a rookie had several 300+ yards and 3+ TD games with only Tate to throw to in 2021 Jones had a 350 yard 2 TD game that Slayton dropped a would be TD in the endzone the Giants lost the game 30-29 on a last second FG is that Jones fault the Giants have lost several games on last second FG including like 4 60+ last second game winners how is that on the QB finally they talk about the record but they fail to point out that most of the games lost was in games where Saquon was out with injuries the 1 season where Saquon played in 16 games with Jones the Giants won 9 games and went to the playoffs

[@bosephusn7190]

That turned into a Daniel Jones roast!

[@izishillboldon6036]

Great debate and great show.

[@keithwoods4415]

Joy had me up until she started praising Dak and said he wins playoff games.. Daniel Jones has 1 playoff win and Dak has a measly 2

[@yahircisneros9900]

Let’s not pretend like this dude didn’t just get 2nd team all pro and was a top qb in all statistics like yes playoffs dude just isn’t good but overall he is actually a very good quarterback but with DJ even his regular season just isn’t good now I actually agree that the giants did and awful job at even helping him with players but his best season even that season he was just ok

[@vktor5730]

@@yahircisneros9900And let’s not pretend like the Cowboys haven’t had all star talent in nearly every position since Dak got there and STILL can’t make it to the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP let alone the Superbowl yet gets LESS criticism and outrageous hate than Daniel Jones

[@yahircisneros9900]

@@vktor5730 can say the same about the ravens and the bills and the eagles and many other teams

[@Somdeb10]

@@yahircisneros9900ravens made the afc championship game last season, I’ll give you the bills but I already knew they were overrated anyways, and the eagles went to the Super Bowl a year ago so what exactly is your argument here?

[@yahircisneros9900]

@@Somdeb10 Lamar is 2-4 and dak is 2-5 in the playoffs there isn’t much of a difference there.i don’t think dak is top 5 at all but u do think he gets overly hated because of the team he plays on because if we take away the name and look at his numbers since he got in the league the dude has insane numbers. Now ofc his playoffs stats just aren’t good understandable in the playoffs this dude just isn’t good at all but we also can’t just throw anyways everything else he’s done I mean pro bowl second team all pro leading in touchdowns his accuaracy amongst top of the league his yards are amongst the top of the league now again I’m not saying he a top 5 qb or anything but he gets over hated and doesn’t get the respect he deserves for how good he actually is

[@kanecunningham7779]

I’m with acho on this one

[@bigmyke5858]

This is one of those segments where someone has to sacrifice their true sentiment just to make the show better. Ocho was the sacrifice here. Absolutely no way he believes what he is saying in this clip 😂😂😂

[@AsBlueAsItGets]

He knows someone has to... The whole panel can't call DJ terrible or his psycopants will throw a hissy fit. 😂 Clowns want to socialy engineer a terrible QB into not being just that. Hahah. Waste of $160M

[@captainchaosxx3866]

Everyone with a brain knew to not pay Daniel Jones like wtf.

[@theodoreturner7084]

Acho is going down with the ship

[@vktor5730]

Acho is the only sensible one there, wtf are you talking about?

[@michaelvisconi7338]

If he balls out this year you would still hate

[@ericruffin3899]

I hate everytime Joy speaks. Dak wins playoffs games? Sometimes? He’s won 2 his entire career 😂😂😂😂

[@WYF999]

Saquan was not our offense smh 😒😒 at this point he is just a name.

[@therizza3704]

Joy adds nothing to this show.

[@denk664]

Adds a screechy voice and being clueless. I don't mind a women discussing sports but put one that knows what she talking about. Joy is 0.

[@DrezzyDre]

"4 accountants and a financial advisor!!!"😂😂😂

[@jdjdjeieuudididd]

This is straight up comedy 😂😂

[@757CitiesReppa]

The difference is Hurts show signs when he came in for Wentz and in his first year as a starter he took The Eagles to the playoffs with Jalen Reagor as WR1. JALEN REAGOR!!!

[@nasinicolopoulos9557]

Daniel took the giants to the playoffs with Isiah Hodgins as his wr1

[@brooklyntony9082]

And he had an o line, you can't play QB in the NFL with no line and no WRs to throw to.

[@xavierbarrios2418]

​@@brooklyntony9082do you watch football? Or have you ever played? Cause it's clear you don't understand the game

[@lildripnation3462]

@@757CitiesReppa they never beat any team over .500 that was not impressive compare that to the giants playoff year dj carried the whole team on his back plus we had a practice squad player as our number one

[@brooklyntony9082]

@xavierbarrios2418 watch plenty of football played college, you normally prove your points with insults? You ever play? And I mean more than just Madden

[@mylesbrew5410]

Shady is straight SPITTIN. I’ll never understand how GMs are so bad and so weak when it comes to contracts. When they get the qb money situation fixed... I think it’ll fix half of it tho

[@Slaughterh0use88]

Shady spittin...he spittin garbage as usual

[@mylesbrew5410]

@@Slaughterh0use88 😂😂🤣yall be hatin on bro for no reason lmao. He’s definitely better than he used to be. I used to think he had wild/bad or horrible. Takes a couple years back though.

[@Slaughterh0use88]

@mylesbrew5410 his takes are emotion based that's all lol and he's incredibly bias when it comes to the eagles and Chiefs

[@mylesbrew5410]

@@Slaughterh0use88 I guess.. But lmao. Most of the time (like now..) he’s not talking about them

[@kevinjohnson4711]

My favorite description of Daniel Jones is "he looks like the guy they'd cast as Eli in the Peyton Manning made for tv movie"

[@luc9002]

I love this show man. No, I don’t agree with all their emotional biased takes sometimes but this show is entertaining asf idc what anyone says. Shady is made for tv, the comment section proves it 😂

[@drewgsp]

Y’all actin like jones ain’t come back frm the cardinals in week 2 he showed flashes

[@GrandPapaCap]

"Flashes" in his 5th season?? He played 1 good half of football in 6 appearances...He needs to be consistent and they're absolutely right, he is not a difference maker period

[@MoreNYGPlease]

@@GrandPapaCap Lets see decent 1st year with a proper offensive minded coach. 2 bad years injury years with terrible coach worst than urban Meyer. We're nuking Tlaw's first year, right? We wipe 2 Joe Judge years, ugh, we even hire kitchens and Garrett. 1 playoff year with his leading Wrs Barkley and Richie James (aka the guy who could not help Patty). Another injury with Minimal games behind the second worse line in nfl history. Maybe if we traded barkley we could have locked in that top 3 and draft a QB. Until it's Jones until March 2025. Between Jones's lack durability and Giants bad hires/draft picks. Here we are.

[@GrandPapaCap]

@@MoreNYGPlease you make some good points ngl...my thing with Jones is that he's inconsistent and the last time we saw him he is extremely gunshy...ppl say he doesn't have time to throw it further than 5yds but I disagree...he pump fakes at it a lot, possibly afraid to turn it over...he needs to let it rip, trust his guys and live with the outcomes imo

[@James-cq5sy]

@@GrandPapaCaphow can one be a difference maker with no play makers ? Since 2020 the giants offensive line has ranked at BEST 28th in the league. Hes had an Darius slayton as WR1 who’s at best a WR 3 on 25 other teams , 31 year old Shepard, a saquon that never played a full season, and im sure you couldn’t name our tight end up until Waller this past season. And then Waller only played in 12 games ..

[@GrandPapaCap]

@@James-cq5sy these are just excuses...Good/great players elevate other players games...Jones just doesn't...Slayton and Wan'dale are both good receivers mo matter how you slice it...Jones doesn't do well with pre-snap adjustments, he doesn't do well with post-snap reads...good players play above the x's and o's not just blindly following what a coach says he should do (think about it)...if a play is breaking down, very rarely does Jones extend to make something happen, he tries to tuck and run...no matter how you slice it, that won't cut it ijs

[@0492panda]

finally a honest convo about the giants.. shady cooking lol

[@vktor5730]

3 clowns spewing hate and nonsense and 1 person providing actual facts = an honest convo about the Giants? Yeah, your a causal and don’t know ball🤡

[@AQANVISUALS]

Shady be keepin it a whole bean 😂😂😂😂 💯

[@Blaze_srt]

“He’s had 5 years” broooo what help on offense has he had, Darius slayton is a wr at best who was the #1 wr, one of if not the worse oline in the league, but let’s overlook that part

[@royalmoneyentertainment5542]

Shady preaching 💪🏾💪🏾

[@Jake_Hoyt]

Acho...thank you. This guy won a playoff game with his roster. Get him some players.

[@VincentMartins-v3c]

No pro Bowl O-lineman?! Thomas is top 2 left tackle in the league, come on….

[@RaulGarcia-cj5vt]

The running no longer matters in the nfl

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

How many phantom sacks is Jones good for this year.

[@brooklyntony9082]

Maybe if he had even 1 legit WR he wouldn't take as many sacks & after free rushers get at you for 17 weeks most would see phantoms

[@user-hr9jp5xh5x]

Acho is by far the smartest person on here and its not close

[@MeBihhhh]

Look a DJ fan 😂

[@vktor5730]

@@MeBihhhhLooking, a missed DJ hater that can’t use logic and common sense😂😂

[@MeBihhhh]

@@vktor5730 as a giants fan, our fan base knows he’s trash. You must be a relative or his burner. Cope harder

[@MasonVr758]

The Jones hate is real, they don't use facts. Jones is a better pure qb than hurts, just doesn't squat as much. And there's plenty of games that Jones had to put the team on his back, smh foh

[@VincentMartins-v3c]

Joy calling someone trash doesn’t sit right with me lol

[@drb369]

I’m an Eagles fan and I’m not convinced Hurts is better than Jones. If you put Jones on the Eagles and Hurts on the Giants I don’t know how that would play out

[@lildripnation3462]

@@drb369 probably would’ve won a Super Bowl by now

[@itsabulldogsworld]

Exactly

[@andresdixson1779]

Jones not Hurts, right?

[@andresdixson1779]

After giving up 84 sacks, not even counting how many hits the QBs took playing behind the Giants Online do you really think Hurts would have played the WHOLE season? Maybe the first QB with 2000 yds on the ground 😂 running for his life

[@yankeeallday8166]

You just wait. This won't age well...🤭🤣