Glen 'Big Baby' Davis calls Doc Rivers overrated | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

He was right

[@thegoat3153]

Ohh he was sooo right

[@darnelldarden9429]

Spot on

[@MahdiKnicks]

We owe big Baby an apology. lol

[@raekwonwillis5086]

factz 😭😭

[@Vincent_63]

A big apology

[@stefenjames1172]

I'm sorry 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@moorekeicephillips]

3 years later Glen Davis ain’t looking so crazy for this take

[@ifheavenwashuman]

Another year later, he looks genius for saying this.

[@MrAntlitt2009]

@@ifheavenwashuman right now he's looking like even more of a genius!

[@bondsgoat25]

@@MrAntlitt2009 right now he’s looking like the second coming of Socrates in terms of philosophers.

[@stormb8433]

Definitely not as of right now lol

[@sundigest1121]

aged like fine wine

[@serenerelaxation3580]

Who's here after he blew a 3-1 lead with the Clippers.?

[@stefenjames1172]

I am lol.

[@jeffryrivera3562]

I'm here after he got fired

[@andyofzz]

And Yet another one....

[@troublesome96er16]

Nah, here after 6ers blew game 7 against hawks lol

[@darnelldarden9429]

@@troublesome96er16 same

[@blakbleach9696]

Who else came here after Joker kicked doc out the bubble?

[@assholus228]

I've been saying he's overrated for years, Davis seems to be the first player to come out and finally say it.

[@tabletalk33]

I've been saying it for years, too. But Clippers bloggers (many of them) attacked me for it. Their loyalty to Rivers was just irrational in my view. I was off Rivers' bandwagon early on. It's very strange how sports fans and management alike cannot think about coaches rationally.

[@torywoods5911]

Doc Rivers got fired in Orlando and no one really went crazy. He was blessed to have that 08' Celtics team

[@denswagger6386]

I’m here after DOC blew a 3-1 lead again😂

[@wendeezy32]

Lol me too

[@12345676571]

3rd Time smh

[@tonywong8134]

5 years later, this still holds true. In fact...based on the last 5 years (2017-2022) alone no other coaches BESIDES the first 15 years that Doc Rivers has coached has any other coach blown more 3-1 leads and series leads than him! This includes blowing 19 point leads and losing both games in the same series, no other coach has done this. The last 5 years he gets to play with Joel Embiid, James Harden, Ben Simmons, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, and to a lesser extent Tobias Harris on top of the other 7 HOF players he coached.

[@joncollins5809]

Ive always thought Rivers was overrated. He lucked up and had three very professional stars and won championship. Three years ago Clippers were on par with Golden State. Now Golden State is light years,ahead.

[@dqravens]

Who's here after the hawks knocked Doc out again?

[@DaOtisElevator]

He's overrated. He's a good coach but not an amazing coach that some people seem to think he is.

[@MahdiKnicks]

Good take

[@michaelss1294]

Doc is overrated

[@PopeyesBiscuitWithNoDrink]

Fax

[@AggravatedMan365]

I been saying this for years! I'm glad someone finally brought it up

[@flawlesstracks]

Doc Rivers only won 3 playoff series with the clippers. Frank Vogel won 3 series his first year

[@thechild7355]

Year 2021: Blows a 18 point lead in game 4 and a 26 point lead in game 5

[@djc2387]

Whos here after Clippers blew a 3-1 lead to Denver Nuggets in WCSF?

[@fwc9500]

Here after the game 7 loss! Wow

[@alexpena71]

He is good, he ain't no Brad Stevens tho.

[@BlackWolfSportsTalk]

Alex Pena Brad Steven's walked into the best scenario a young team with a million draft picks he's n9t bad but he hasn't done anything to say he's better

[@preethamravi5082]

I agree, give brad stevens the clippers roster, what happens?

[@bigray712]

what a joker...stevens....let him win a playoff series first...doc until stevens proves playoff sucess

[@preethamravi5082]

that is a fair statement

[@poloregal]

Alex Pena Oh Yeah Stevens has done a lot

[@Thehokage36]

Came here after the clippers blew a 3-1 lead from the nuggets lol

[@back2back379]

This is aging like fine wine

[@alllbeee9633]

Doc is really overrated in my opinion.. he has underachieved big time with the Clippers

[@k3m505]

wait so Steve Kerr isn't lucky also?? he

[@savagetaestheticknight221]

k3m505 He is lucky. He's also proving to be a good coach though.

[@k3m505]

Theopolis Turtles I don't believe that we can keep calling coaches good because they have a super team or a really really good roster, I'm not sure how they would do if they coaches a mediocre team. You know which coach I say is a really good coach Popovich.... the jury is still out on these other coaches including Phil Jackson

[@lonewolfe9137]

Theopolis Turtles how ???

[@savagetaestheticknight221]

jj gg Good rotations. Good plays. He gets the best out of his guys, reinforces the culture. Always looking do improve his game. I think he is a good coach. Not saying he's the best.

[@lonewolfe9137]

Theopolis Turtles lmao any coach could do that with that squad

[@shooguy8792]

doc is overrated

[@YoungTCash]

Just got confirmed. He should be coaching hs

[@michaelss1294]

Doc is a horrible coach

[@nsmith3128]

Greg Pop is the only non overrated coach.

[@brucewayne4164]

Black Ceaser Phil isn't overrated he had mj pippen n worm that's it great with a couple stars and supporting cast

[@94mac]

J-Dog Dominguez he's not the coach he's the president of operations

[@momandbro8]

Black Ceaser put some respeck in Carlisle's name

[@razkable]

I have seen one of the greatest in pat riley win 15 games and go 15-67 20-62 and 18-64 in Miami.....the best lose too but not popovich...Pop wins no matter what..he rests guys and yet wins...he uses his bench way more than most yet wins..guys like david robinson Duncan leave he adjusts and still wins 50+ games..I think spolestra in Miami because of his 5 seasons without LeBron has a pretty good track record too not having bosh their max paid player much in the last 3 years and grooming waiters and whiteside 2 project journeymen players when you combine it with the 4 finals trips with LeBron and winning at least 38 games no matter the injuries or talent he has in 9 seasons as a coach and making the playoffs 4 out of 5 times wining over 45 games and wining a game come playoff time every season especially this season taking a 11-30 team to now 34 and 34 in the 7th seed in the east after they were 14th and over 10 games back of the 8th seed just 2 months ago is amazing.....coach of the year...Popovich and spo adjust too their talent.thats what makes them the 2 best coaches..by far...year in they compete...it would have been easy for Miami to go into the toilet without any of their big 3 especially starting 11-30 and losing due to injury for the rest of the season both their starting sf and pf in top 10 draft pick winslow and mcroberts ...no one would blame the team to tank for a top 5 pick.....mimai has been 23 and 4 since then lol ....that's called great coaching..winning 13 straight is impossible for a team that was 11-30 but Miami did it somehow beating the warriors with kd and the rockets and cavs twice.......with d league journeymen 10 day contract type youn players rookies and bums who make less than 2 million a year and never played in the nba before contriving most of their bench and team..they have 6 legit nba players honestly and only 1 guy who can score 20...they are the definition of good coaching that puts them in position to compete every night by adjusting even if they lose..

[@gustavotitus1985]

Black Ceaser and larry brown

[@willievasilli]

dude with the specs is just making noise like bro what are you talking about?lol

[@SoSickRick]

5 years later this is still 100% true

[@Jaykurosakii]

6*

[@joshcannon23]

Fred Hoiberg is my team's coach. I'll take Doc any day

[@twitch491]

fred is olay just has a bad mix of players

[@dzk6714]

The Major is one of the best coaches in the NBA right now.Bulls will make it to the finals.

[@brucewayne4164]

The Star lmao

[@TheNiners6949]

atl they did, but they fired him...Tom tibs

[@thewiseguy6750]

6 years later and Doc just squandered another lead 😂

[@ddrum705]

Never really thought about it!!!! He's a good coach but looking at him as elite? NO

[@ericgarcia3640]

ddrum705 He is an elite developer of talent. Deandre Jordan and Austin Rivers both got way better under Doc

[@ericgarcia3640]

***** Not even close. Deandre wasn't rven close to All Star level when Doc got there and Austin Rivers is definitely playing better thsn he was with the Pelicans

[@IdkLeaveMeAloneYo]

He's a top 3 coach in today's game, how is that not elite

[@TheNiners6949]

Jesus-is LORD speak for your self lol

[@IdkLeaveMeAloneYo]

TheNiners6949 He is!

[@gobear2002]

Clipp lost to denver fire him.ovrrated

[@stefenjames1172]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@moeknight6494]

See this is why u can't help everybody. Who was Glen coach in Boston, Doc. Who when no other team wanted Glen, who took him with him to the clippers, Doc. So Doc was a good coach when you had a job, but NOW all of a sudden, you think is overrated?? He wasn't overrated when he was the only coach that wanted you. And lets not act like Glen took his career seriously.

[@nighting78]

Just because someone fw you heavy doesn’t make his coaching skills amazing bro lol. Take the emotion out of it

[@dashonbillingsly1635]

That doesnt prove that he isnt overrated

[@glenardensfinest]

Doc is overrated!!! Took me some years to finally realize it!!

[@emmanueladoh4294]

2020

[@TomDelayBeats]

Big baby and Whitlock were so on point.

[@g5162]

People give coaches too much credit. The coaches with the best players win. It is as simple as that. Tyronne Lue and Steve Kerr are winning because they have the best group of players.

[@SkinnyFlackooBEATS]

g5162 EXACTLY

[@FlipNewYork718]

g5162 because 04 pistons had the best player's the 2011 mavericks had the best player's.. try again

[@zpacify]

Timothy Oliver Coaching is actually underrated. Yeah of course talent wins, but the better team wins and that's because of a great coach. Look at Pop, he doesn't have the best players, but they are always competitive.

[@UC704TV]

NBA's Mike Tomlin

[@MarquisJames245]

UC704 NBAs Mike McCrathy

[@RayMagic12192]

dumb bigoted analysis

[@Canteenboy117]

UC704 how true

[@themushybrain686]

Mike Tomlin is a good coach

[@GodBody-BodyofGod]

UC704 or Sean Payton, or any of the Harbaughs

[@aepr84]

best Doc season for me was 99-00 going 41-41 in Orlando with a bunch of nobodies

[@davidburdine777]

aepr84 tmac

[@jreel]

David Burdine Exactly, T-Mac was virtually a God on the court to carry his team on a nightly basis.

[@aepr84]

+David Burdine TMac got there for 2000-01 he wasnt there for 99-00

[@aepr84]

+JREEL CONCEPT he wasnt there yet...first season w magic was 00-01

[@jreel]

aepr84 Obviously. I'm referring to when he was there under Doc.

[@tyreeantoin4969]

Doc is not overrated, he's rated properly. I've never heard anyone call him the best or even one of the best coaches of all time. People usually refer to him as one of the best in today's game. I would concur, he's arguably better than any coach excluding Popovich. To bring up the year which preceded the Big 3 without adding context is lazy. Paul Pierce was injured most of the season and Tony Allen was possibly their best player out there on most nights, yes Tony Allen...... All coaches need talent to win, Greg Popovich teams weren't winning championships before Tim Duncan, in fact the only reason Tim was drafted by them is because Popovich team had a similar season to Doc's Celtics team. Belichick was not looked at as a great coach before Tom Brady; Phil Jackson Kobe led teams couldn't make it out of the first round before they got the talent required to succeed. A coach is only as good as the players he has, unless that coach actually has talent but never wins, which isnt the case for Doc.

[@illman300]

Tyree Antoin as far as i remember al jefferson was the best player after pierce. and dont you even dare puttin poppovich and rivers in the same sentence.

[@MikeBNumba6]

Tyree Antoin Stephen A Smith is the only guy in hear calling doc an elite coach

[@tyreeantoin4969]

Yeah, you're right, I forgot about him but tony allen did average the most he ever has in career that year because he had to. I'm not comparing them, I'm just pointing out the fact that no "great" coach is great without the talent.

[@tyreeantoin4969]

Lol...... very overrated huh? You're the one who sounds idiotic.

[@tyreeantoin4969]

I need proof, I guarantee no one was saying that... not with Phil & Pop still coaching.

[@aminsayed6244]

Thibodeau

[@twitch491]

the acl/mcl killer first rose now lavine smh

[@soppoi123]

Thibodeau playin his best players the whole game, bc he can't figure a system where role players can contribute.

[@lukesouthall8360]

"you can't fault Doc for not having a closer" "Chris Paul's a closer" "I know chis Paul is" Genius.

[@MarquisJames245]

Jason whitlock stay hating on black guys lol he's so mad he didn't make it

[@MahdiKnicks]

Hating or accurate?

[@mellowman1020]

And here we are in 2020

[@thebodyweightking6203]

Finally someone is saying the truth lol. I like Doc but the Big 3 *(KG, Pierce, & Jesus Shuttlesworth)* made him into a star head coach. He's no Gregg Popovich who actually COACHES his team rather than rely solely on stars. *Watch our videos and Subscribe to our channel...thanks!*

[@Alex18PR]

The only reason the Warriors lost that series vs the Clippers was because they didn't had a center. Both Bogut and Ezeli where out with injuries and they had to play with D-Lee at center and an aging Jermaine Oneal backing him up. Also the only difference was not only a new coach. That summer they got Livingston and Barbosa to replace Steve Blake and Jordan Crawford so the bench got a lot more deeper.

[@ErickB4Prez]

Doc Rivers is the NBA version of Marvin Lewis.

[@keybladechosn1]

Doc has won playoff games. Give him that. Lewis hasn't won in the post season period

[@ErickB4Prez]

keybladechosn1 Doc has won playoff games, however his success only came when he had 3 hall of fame players. Marvin Lewis made his name off of Ray Lewis.

[@nycbenefits]

Lewis never won a chip. More like Barry Switzer or John Gruden (When he took over Tony Dungy's Tampa Bay team)

[@keybladechosn1]

But he still one. Lewis hasn't one a single playoff game. That's ridiculous. Doc Rivers is overrated but he's managed to at least win playoff games. Give the man credit for that.

[@mikesheerin7607]

Erick Beavers Doc has a ring

[@jeff050578]

Broussard says Doc is considered a top 3-5 coach. By who? Saying Doc Rivers is an elite coach is like saying Thibs is an elite coach. Rick Carlisle and Pops are the 2 best coaches in the NBA. Steve Kerr is on his way to greatness. I know Golden State is extremely talented but its impossible to deny the improvements made from M. Jacksons team in just one off-season. Doc and Thibs are not in the top 10.

[@Reeferal]

jeff050578 it's pop, Carlisle, Kerr then doc. Lue and Brad Stevens are closing the gap. Then there really isn't anyone else worth mentioning.

[@jeff050578]

Reeferal Doc is nowhere near my top 5. All the teams he has coached have gotten worse, except when Ainge got the big 3 together in Boston.

[@xcq4947]

people forgetting about phil jackson as one of the great coaches?

[@hasanx4637]

FOH talking about Kerr. Come back with Brad Stevens gets out of the east and Lue should be an assistant. Look at the job Doc Rivers has done with the talent in LA this year. Steve Kerr and Carlisle wouldn't have won 30 games.

[@acdcrocks304]

Wayoff P just brought you here

[@DoremonUCR]

Who is the dude on the left? Get that man off the show, wtf is he even talking about.

[@fuckhaters7041]

Thienphuc Nguyen Dude is dumb....

[@reyzorramonetheuntouchable1414]

Jason Shitlock always wearing a hat like he's Michael Jackson from Smooth Criminal....More like Smoothie The Hungry Hungry Criminal

[@TheIcemanthomas]

Rey Thussein L

[@kambuibomani231]

I wouldn't say overrated bc he's developed some fine players in his career and has taken the clips to the brink of relevancy when they're healthy.

[@TempeSoldier123]

Doc is well liked and that has made his life easy. He's had the best talent in the west, next to GS, for the past 5 years and he hasn't accomplished anything.

[@jimbertido7762]

If Celts had a btr coach they would've won a 2nd ring. Phil Jackson outcoached him the 2nd time around. Doc burnt out his starters in game 7. Doc was a likeable guy though, very charismatic & professional.

[@Mikalnasif]

I agree Doc is overrated.

[@NebraskaPoliceDepartment]

Who’s here after last night game 7 loss ?

[@wintersouljah8437]

nobody is luckier than Phil Jackson & Steve Kerr.

[@jessicasims2853]

He said a baby grand piano. I died LOL

[@3base2222]

yes he is overrated!!

[@christcathedralministriesi8256]

I agree, I've been saying this for the longest

[@TheeRomantic]

Big Baby is laughing hard still

[@jayvang5076]

Who here after game 7 against the nuggets lol

[@pootypotputt]

Guy on the left needs to catch the boot. What are you talking about?? Prepare an argument BEFORE the cameras start to roll

[@chealivanputten6857]

he hit it on the head doc having he's son on the team no chemistry

[@maxanime1990]

Almost every team would love having doc as their coach.

[@YOURMINDMOTIV]

Here cuz the clippers blew a 3-1 lead

[@edwardgutierrez8844]

As a celtic fan since 04 I have to agree.

[@samuraijack10]

The only reason he won that chip against the Lakers was because Bynum got injured

[@dylanceko]

Samurai Jack lol, smh it was like saying that the golden state lost this year w/o green, bogut etc. 08 celtics is clearly the better team w/ or w/o bynum

[@anthropologistjb4926]

Samurai Jack that is not true, what about the Lakers, they won 2010 cuz Perkins got injured and missed game 7. Also, Celtics would have won the NBA Championship in 2009 if KG did not get injured and missed the entire playoffs.

[@lilprincekilla]

Only reason the Lakers won the following match up is because Kendrick Perkins got hurt.

[@edwardmcneil9240]

LilPrince Killa Kendrick Perkins now you're definitely overrating his importance

[@lilprincekilla]

Edward McNeil Same way you're over rating Bynums importance......

[@jackjelf5986]

most overrated coach in the history of the league. don't even deny it. he's good, but he's nowhere near a top coach in the league now, let alone all time.

[@michaelss1294]

Agree. Doc is overrated

[@yayafitini]

For me, the best coach will be Pop. 3 generations still at the top. Phil , just a lucky coach.

[@daygosfiness760]

Déjà vu all over again 😂

[@Aj6711]

Typical media always trying to discredit anything anyone done . I guess every coach has a ring

[@chrisscott1776]

Truth Hurts

[@geesworld]

Glen "Big Baby" Davis is one of my favorite from 2008 Celtics squad. But c'mon with this harsh talk, Big Baby. This guy said he wished he took his carer more serious then throws rocks at Doc Rivers. GTFOH

[@jazmenwilliams6239]

Yes. I could coach that Celtics team to a championship. He had 3 amazing players, also role players like Tony Allen. Big Baby, Eddie House, Rondo. Is he horrid? No. But hr is in the middle to me. Popovich and Carlisle are the best. Steve Kerr isn't great. But the players are.

[@josephhan4750]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS Austin SHOULD NOT BE ON THE TEAM

[@unpredictablejustice7107]

Doc made Rondo, Perk, Tom Thibodeau all successful even though they are not. He brought culture to the team and won a title with only two all stars joining that were at end of their careers. If it wasn't for injuries and bad luck he should have at least 3 rings!

[@undistake8505]

He's right!

[@jethroarmand7068]

Still holds up today

[@mrhoward19801]

I actually agree

[@sociallyawkward9633]

All he needs is a new big 4...

[@nycbenefits]

No that was 2012. You need a new big 5 and a reserve point guard, who can be a starter on any other teams.

[@royalace2271]

Also the biggest problem with the Clippers is the mindset that they have a top 3 PG, a top 5 PF, and a top 3 Center would automatically translate to success. At the end of the day, if you don't have a true system, an identity, a direction, you're not going nowhere. Their top three players doesn't seem to enhance each other skills and make each other better. Just because they are all top 5 in their position, doesn't mean they will be successful. The Clippers problem is their top 2/3 players are way too flawed. They don't have players who create mismatches. They don't have versatility at all. Their entire team is one dimensional. They have one sharp shooter and the rest are just streaky volume shooters. They don't have a legit scorer. And they play too much one on one and relies too much on CP3 to create something

[@fred-shieh]

people don't remember all the great after timeout plays they ran throughout his Boston years, granted the veterans knew how to run it... but the plays he called was amazing to me at times and how they pulled it off so frequently

[@Half_Full-Since96]

Fred S that's not the only thing that makes a good coach

[@fred-shieh]

that's true~ I think he's too old school, no wonder the legends worked well with him, but the young guys could never get along with him...

[@riccardoferrazzo8283]

Who is here after he lost with ATL having probably 3 of the top 4 players in the series in his roster?

[@iTyom]

Phily was beaten by Atlanta in seven games. Atlanta Carl! Rivers has the most seventh home game losses in playoff history. How many more antirecords he must set, before teams owners will understand, that he is a dullard.

[@josefromtexas]

"Doc doesn't have a closer" WTF, does this guy even watch basketball???

[@Heysuess97]

I know this doesn't help the Clippers' or Doc's argument but Blake is a top 2 pf.

[@mattjg74]

Erik Spo>>>> Doc Rivers

[@bradmason8334]

Eric Davis on point

[@mus31]

doc rivers is the doc rivers of coaching

[@piyorimax9906]

Keep the Black Man divided.......

[@scrapcuz8370]

Steve Kerr inherited the warriors doc put in blood sweat and tears his years in Boston

[@nicktovey2809]

Triple cheese burger is not overrated.

[@mrbtbrown84]

Seems to me like Doc is the ultimate players coach who allows his star players to run the team. In Boston it worked because you had strong personalities with heart that guys wanted to follow. I don't think the stars playing for the clippers have the same demeanor.

[@L0ngstrip]

Only one person made good sense out of this. Pop haven't coached players with their own identity. Not saying that T-Mac was at his best when he got to SS but you could see that he was sidelined by Pop because of his personality. Doc has had to coach less talent than a lot of the winning coaches. Besides Chris, JJ and Crawford who are the scorers that he has. Just get Blake to settle for midrange jumpers and he is done. As much as Phill helped MJ it is safe to say that the made each other. No matter how great a coach is not having the pieces to execute your plan will not bring you wins. Doc has to deal with major injuries every year, I think the people that can give you a good assessment of Doc are players like Paul, Kg and Ray. Just think about this, one of the differences between Kobe and Lebron is that Lebrons team mates embrace what ever role that had to play where is with Kobe there was always a few team mates who showed resistance. As for GW, Mark Jackson built a foundation that Kerr built on. The team never had a superstar personality until they started to get real good and all the players have accepted their roles on the team, even Draymond

[@darnelldarden9429]

Had to spin the block after Doc just blew 26 and 18 point leads and lost in the second round to the Hawks

[@bloodcuz6199]

Stevens is the next pop... Facts!!!

[@SmarWaterGuy16]

I agree with Davis..Doc is overrated finally someone said it

[@mikeclarke3990]

Pretty confident the big 3 didn't need a coach. The Truth & The Big Ticket run that team.

[@shantalgreen3789]

Steve Kerr is overrated

[@andrelawson8043]

Shantal Green thank uu that's why he turned down that Knicks job he was going to have all them players before they traded them and he turned them down and went to a Warriors team and added some what of the show time Lakers type of play with them but instead of Dunking they are shooting 3's and playing physical on the Defensive side and doing a very good job of hiding curry from the best pg's

[@dontevertouchmyhat1169]

He was COACH OF THE YEAR in Orlando

[@Jikjuka]

Yes, doc is one of those good coaches that will have your team winning and getting into the playoffs, if not winning a couple rounds consistently, but he does get outcoached when he gets deep in the playoffs. He needed a super team to win the championship.