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[@mattyboyd4045]

Ben Affleck is like all 5 ladies on the View combined.

[@starcrafter13terran]

He has more estrogen.

[@tp3039]

lmao.. nailed it

[@Themindofreyrey]

Matt Boyd 😂

[@issacdavis3767]

Matt Boyd Whoopie Cushion and Joyless, my favorite.

[@christiannovay4343]

except for the conservative one.

[@VeganTruth]

Mr. Affleck, perhaps you should sit quietly in the corner and let the adults talk.

[@johnmcvay4403]

That was incredibly hard to get through

[@zahkj08]

Perfect example of emotions vs logic.

[@avedic]

I'm about as progressive/liberal as it gets....but I cannot _stand_ how liberals react to Islam, as though calling it out were....racist? It's a RELIGION(a religion opposed to nearly ALL liberal ethics), not an ethnicity. Religions are IDEAS...and scientifically-untrue immoral violent ideas *MUST* be criticized. Bill Maher & Sam Harris are the _only_ liberals who seem to get that. The #1 problem in the world today is *_religion._* Religion is *_by far_* the most destructive divisive violent force humanity ever invented. It's 2014...yet some people still get their morality & education from ignorant immoral ancient books!? That's *_insane_* and must change for us to survive. Religion is the antithesis of sanity morality & rationality.

[@rudymurillo9334]

***** that's not what he's saying. He's saying Islam and Muslims as a whole are bad. Yes it's okay to criticize bad ideas but to demonize a collect group, whether or not the believe in those bad ideas, is bigotry. They think this way, I believe they believe in something bad, therefore they are bad.

[@joelmcnultymusic]

B eheliit The 2 are not mutually exclusive, ya know. That said, Affleck was a clown here.

[@SleepyGeoCave-ew3lh]

How to spot an idiot during an argument ,they won't let you complete your sentence😂.

[@devpandya1715]

And he keeps on saying that he was waiting for Sam to explain

[@606ak]

Everything Ben Affleck said was right. Imagine if I said “the Talmud is the motherlode of bad ideas: it says every jew can have 2800 gentile slaves” and then pointed to the opioid epidemic perpetrated by a Jewish pharma family as part of the Talmudic values hurting our society…

[@Istrice963]

🙏🙏

[@Stitchman3875]

Bill Maher and Sam Harris both react in similar fashion when they are confronted by people who know they’re talking about. Ben Affleck is a lightweight. But when Bill Maher discussed the issue with Piers Morgan, he went irate. When it was Glenn Greenwald, Maher started the smug comments. Sam Harris in his argument with Noam Chomsky tried some painfully stupid thought experiment. In this particular theory, Harris and Maher’s position is very simple “It’s okay when we do it.”

[@606ak]

Sam Harris and Bill Maher are just two logical guys who just happen to be Jewish using facts and reason to conclude that Israel is our greatest ally and Islam is the motherlode of bad ideas.

[@thandinkosi6034]

This interview never gets old

[@devinludwig]

Ben is like "but I'm big and handsome!"

[@drew123994]

Or irrelevant. Fuck this hits hard today

[@stevefrenchize]

Ben must cringe at this daily

[@shabbydabby9976]

This aged like shit. 10 years later, now we came to know, ISIS was made by hilary clinton, Al-Qaeda was made by CIA, USA invaded over 45 countries since WW2, including Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria wars... so stop blaming muslims for what YOU have created and done. Go educate yourselves, instead of listening to mainstream media that's been pushing agendas and brainwashing your stupid asses.

[@Brocephus613]

@@stevefrenchize I'm guessing Ben still thinks he put these intolerant assholes in their place...

[@BRUH-xw3ku]

Ben Affleck should go to Saudi Arabia and call for Gay Rights and women equality.

[@OutSideDeMatrix]

John Potter yawn - ignorant comment

[@elifk.7692]

besides the fact that Saudi Arabia is certainly not a wholesome representation of Islam countries it is also quite astonishing to me that islamophobic arguments always lead to Saudi Arabia when in fact Saudi Arabia and the west have great relationship. and by the way there are people in Saudi Arabia speaking up for women's rights

[@BRUH-xw3ku]

Elif Koca Yeah right. Saudi Arabia is the most free and humanitarian country there is.

[@BRUH-xw3ku]

Nicky N True

[@mjmqubesi]

Elif Koca Does the American government know that?? If yes, why SA is the biggest alliance for the USA? What we do know that MOST of the Arabic regimes are American puppets & this is essential to the existence of Israel. Why these dumps do not discuss women's rights in the Orthodox jews????!!!! Women in this community are not allowed to show a single mm of her body, not allowed to study, to meet the one she gonna marry....etc. you have more than 300000 there in NY. If there is a religion who violates human rights, then It's Judaism... When this SOB Bill Maher doesn't discuss this issue????!!! Bcoz he knows many American ppl trust him , so it's time to fool them.. You have to know that face veil existing ONLY in Judaism but not in Quran...& there is a big argument about this topic here in the Muslim world.

[@LesPaul2006]

Islam is not a race. Genius.

[@LesPaul2006]

Scott Stapp Jews ARE actually an ethnic group. A son of Jews can be an atheist or a christian, yet is still called Jewish.

[@LesPaul2006]

Scott Stapp True that. Islam is still not a race. But Jews are an ethnic group, and some of them happen to follow the Jewish religion. Some others, like me, are proud atheists.

[@LesPaul2006]

catothewiser Why?

[@jjhollier]

+LesPaul2006 Jews have only been marrying out of their bloodline in the recent decades. Their bloodlines are highly homogeneous because of this.

[@LesPaul2006]

jjhollier Evidence?

[@reidbennett3586]

If you need a laundry list of disclaimers just to state a basic fact so as not to offend people, we will never accomplish anything in any debate ever.

[@snorgonofborkkad]

That's the point of postmodernism.

[@mznxbcv12345]

On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@FladdoT]

Almost a decade ago… and it’s crazy how much bill Maher is spot on

[@KaniAbdi-bz2db]

😂😂😂😂 USA is the problem in this world and everything going wrong

[@DC3Refom]

​@@KaniAbdi-bz2db no its shtlim

[@aquitelastraigopiter]

Can't figure out why is Ben Affleck so angry at Ben Stiller...

[@pltatman1]

Nice.

[@ashleylavergne4327]

Mulguti Lol. That's not Ben Stiller...

[@myNarrator]

There can only be one Ben.

[@luz8010]

evil ben stiller

[@kosmosbjm]

Ben seems off, way too upset, cannot talk normally and is ruining the conversation. Overly angry and It’s a huge turnoff.

[@theroseexperience]

Ben Affleck made a complete and utter fool out of himself. It's really hard to watch.

[@theroseexperience]

+TheRoseExperience I'm convinced he's on something in this appearance as well. You watch this dudes mannerisms and his actions and he's just off. He also stops making sense half way through the video, he's borderline incoherent to the other points these guys are making.

[@shiffterCL]

+TheRoseExperience Actually, if you listen carefully he was somewhat agreeing with what Sam Harris was saying, although a bit more emotionally attached to his argument and underlined it with subtle anti racism speech. Sam Harris was just adding that there are more jihadist then Ben thought and its ok to criticize the Islamic religion. :: After I posted this I continued to watch the video, and came to a knew conclusion. Ben actually doesn't know he agrees with Sam because of his rage possibly.

[@guitarfan1979]

+TheRoseExperience He made a fool out of himself when he was born.

[@drvn8]

+Alloy Brendan annnnd we went there haha

[@ladenaden3959]

He did the quite opposite actually, he's an intelligent and beautiful person. He's not ignorant like those other men, you don't judge a group of people for the whole religion. If they did that or say that, well that's on them but the majority of the religion doesn't so they have no right to judge a whole religion based on that. And If i believe that I am correct, the oldest and most correct bibles have the concept of "jihad" written on them but since you guys change the words of your lord every year by men, you guys don't know about it now do you now?

[@tieyoung8003]

2:15 I like how Ben Affleck called out "Jesus" after he was told "Islam is the motherload of bad ideas.'

[@Stitchman3875]

Ah. Sam got it wrong. US Foreign Policy is the mother lode of bad ideas.

[@purpleprinc3]

Indeed we see Jesus (P.B.U.H.) as a Prophet in Islam, it also discusses his childhood which Christians are ignorant of.

[@itsallgoodman4108]

@@purpleprinc3exactly. The scholars of the muslim world held so many secrets to life. No wonder the west wants to see persia burn

[@farcenter]

This interview literally changed my life 10 years ago. In one moment I realized holy crap I don't agree with mainstream liberals anymore.

[@DaHobbitification]

Ben Affleck seems like a guy you can't have a conversation with.

[@DaHobbitification]

+DaHobbitification He just blurts obscene amounts of bullshit out, I've no idea why they invited him to this talk.

[@mariakatrina1509]

No wonder his wife divorced him

[@jimmyp9785]

I was thinking the same thing. He's one of those people who wants you to listen to him, but has no interest in listening to you. He's answering questions that aren't being asked, and he's reciting things he probably just read a day before. He doesn't acknowledge anything anybody else is saying. I can't stand talking to people like him...and it has NOTHING to do with his opinion; only the way he has a conversation--or should I say, the way he wants you to listen to him and only speak if you agree with him.

[@rosie811honey]

+DaHobbitification They would of invited him on because he's famous,but i think he's a terrible actor and it really annoys me that someone with no talent can get so many movie roles and paid so much,it's not as if there isn't millions of people with talent that are trying to get into acting.How does someone with no talent get the movie parts that he has had?,there has to be something behind it.

[@MsColtonJ]

+DaHobbitification Wow Ben Affleck is really stupid

[@altaris2000]

Ben is so damn triggered.

[@NotQuiteFirst]

How dare you. That's gross and racist.

[@salemabuzaid1338]

well i dont blame him theyre racist

[@djderamus56]

oh no some one tells the truth now their racist

[@emmahribar]

altaris2000 it's all an act. he's putting it on and he knows how to increase the drama by making himself look good. he's an actor that's what he's good at.

[@oldcratch]

I don't think you know what that word means.

[@queerasaclockworkorangehor1776]

I must say, Ben Affleck did a masterful job of channeling Derek Zoolander.

[@LHRPG_Official]

Why can't people tell the difference between a religion and the people who practice it?

[@philipface30]

Ben is acting like a college freshman who thinks they understand everything and nobody understands them

[@rachelc586]

Lmao well said

[@goranmilic442]

@hahagotcha!!!! It would be easy to judge if Islamic radicals are 90% of Muslim population or 0.001% of Muslim population. But when it is 20%, that's very problematic for many people, because they like to think their ideology is always correct and other side is always wrong, so they can't understand why their story is only partly correct.

[@skshrest]

Couldn't have said better. Very underrated coment

[@MR-xf8xg]

Exactly.

[@oasiscrushinglife6878]

@@davidleomorley889 I'm disgusted by American military actions in the middle East, but they aren't being done in the name of Christianity. The forced subjugation of women and gays in Muslim dominated cultures IS being done in the name of their religion. Yes, Western nations are immoral in their actions towards these countries, but it doesn't change the fact that these countries restrict the right of half of their populations based on bullshit immoral principles. Its insane how people automatically jump to hysterical claims of racism whenever people dare rationally bring up the fact that Muslim dominated countries restrict basic human rights, often violently

[@connorfitz-d6852]

Criticising religion is not Racism.

[@LiLiyan121]

Connor Fitz-D ? ?? ??? So "criticizing" color is okay "criticizing" religion is okay "criticizing" a race is okay. what a nice twist u got there .

[@sisamrai6214]

예은 :3 he’s talking about religion you utter imbecile, Islam is not a race. We should be able to openly criticise religion without having to fear for our lives, which Islam does not let us do.

[@EhsanKhan-sp6vi]

Demonising people of one religion, culture or race is racism cretin, check the definition fool.

[@LiLiyan121]

If its not urs then i dont think u have the right to "criticize" it + its still racist dont twist it and u don't hav to explain what he means i know what he means clearly without ur help go to Wikipedia then comment back if u want

[@sisamrai6214]

Criticising a religion is not demonising of its followers. They're vastly different things. Criticising a belief is no different than criticising political beliefs, it's all a matter of opinion therefore it should be able to be criticised. Also, criticising a religion is not racism, racism is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." Islam is not a race therefore it is not racism.

[@armandohenriqueramosminucc4749]

Guess who was right after almost 10 years of this interview.

[@mahmoudboutaleb6412]

I am reading the comments and noticed that 99% of people are brainwashed

[@ranjandipti]

​@@mahmoudboutaleb6412 so anyone who opposes islam is brainwashed?

[@2mch2sy]

@@mahmoudboutaleb6412Ong it’s like Ben Affleck said “most people in the United States don’t even know the difference between Persians and Arabs”

[@stenbiller99]

I wanna see Matt Damon react to this 😂

[@kidarcade]

Have you seen Team America.... I think thats how he would react ^^

[@kartikeyasharma6558]

How you like dem apples!

[@vadunc20001]

The brains of the operation knows when to STFU and let your friend crawl himself into a rehab.

[@stephenojwang5785]

After listening to Ben rant, i realized I'm kind of a genius myself.

[@piotrfraczek7772]

yes HE MADE ME FEELGOOD ABOUT MY SELF

[@thefrontporch3591]

After listening to Ben rant, I realized why he played LEGO Batman and not The Dark Knight Batman.

[@Raffini]

@@thefrontporch3591 LEGO Batman is Will Arnett. He's awesome!

[@farruholimov7216]

Ben might bot be the best debater. But This Not fair! Everybody is mocking Ben Affleck! How about Sam?! He said he is well educated in Islam. I highly doubt that. Go watch Oxford debate about Islam, you will get answers for Sam! And stop basing your facts to polls all the time. If polls were so true, Trump would never be a president.

[@maddssane]

@@farruholimov7216 Maybe if you were well educated in that subject you would agree with Sam, I was born in a Muslim family and a Muslim country and I approve of everything he's saying; That if you announce you're leaving Islam you're a dead man and that's the original idea, not just some radical interpretation. Ben Affleck is being stupid for not listening and interrupting him constantly! My advice to you is replay the video and try to understand what Sam Harris is saying if you could hear him over Ben shouting angrily and non-stop.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

Sam Harris is against all religion and rightfully he supports logic. And they criticize him for being racist? Even when religion is not a race? How dumb is this Ben?

[@jaimecastillo5677]

semih oguzcan ,extremely.

[@GokutheBlack]

semih oguzcan Because racism is a buzzword,and the majority will cheer for "celebrity A voicing opinion B on buzzword-related topic"(bonus points for acting emotional about it),ergo,Ben Affleck get easy exposure and gains popularity from the ignorant majority.

[@DrunkOfficeTea]

semih oguzcan what do you mean Islam is not a race? lol. of course it is. Are you confused? Race is not limited to someone's skin colour it includes people's political, religious and cultural beliefs also. So yes you can be racist towards Muslims no matter what their colour. Its the ideas we are at war with though, not the people. It's an attempt to make them think for themselves. Sometimes that can be mistaken for racism. Although some people racist towards Muslims do exist.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

spac3m0nkey So you mean you can change your race? I thought race is biological, such as DNA. Chinese, etc. If you call culture and thoughts as race, then yeah in your definition of race the things you say is true. I checked the Oxford dictionary, and it says it is a genetic factor. But still, all religions have to go, call it a culture, or a race, name does not matter.

[@DrunkOfficeTea]

-_DiGiTaL _- Okay then let me ask you this. If Muslims are not a race, then which group is? Some people might immediately point to Black people, and say, “that is definitely a race. Look at their skin colour.” But, to be exact, Black people are not a race either. Neither, for that matter, are White people. Okay, now you might wonder about Jewish people? Certainly they are a race, right? Science proves they aren't like Whites and Blacks are not a race either. And what about Asians? Are they a race? Nope. Asians are not a race. The Indigenous People of America, a race? Nope, not a race. You see, there is no such thing as race or races, traditionally understood. Scientists long ago proved that race is not a biological reality but a myth, a socially constructed concept. Yet, despite the data, human beings have been programmed to associate specific things to certain “racial groups”; things like intelligence, work ethic, family values, and behavior. As such, we have been brainwashed to think that some groups are inherently better than others. Race - as one of my favorite sociologists, the late Stuart Hall put it - is a “floating signifier,” meaning that it is a fluid concept which has specific connotations during certain moments in history. Races, in short, have never been exclusively biologically determined but rather politically constructed by powerful people, usually dominant groups in societies. According to Hall, there is a new type of racism “cultural racism,” which is my focus here. Racism is no longer about race (skin colour) but culture. People are bothered and discriminated against not (simply) because of the colour of their skin (or other phenotypes) but because of their beliefs and practices associated with some “imagined culture.” Cultural racism, therefore, happens when certain people perceive their beliefs and customs as being culturally superior to the beliefs and customs of other groups of people. Cultural racism, in-turn, reproduces the idea of “the hierarchy of cultures,” meaning, in the context of current affairs, that “our” Western culture is superior to “their” Islamic culture. This way of thinking is problematic because it essentializes diverse classifications like “Westerners” and “Muslims.” It creates a binary of “Western = civilized” and “Islamic = uncivilized.” Bobby Sayyid, another favorite thinker of mine, argues that Islamophobia is undoubtedly a form of racism. He regards it as a type of racism that “takes up the white man’s burden for the new American century. It is a humanitarian intervention, not a mission civilisatrice; (Islamophobia) only wants to spread democracy not to expropriate resources; it does not want to exterminate ignoble savages, only to domesticate unruly Muslims.” In this context, the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan can be treated as wars driven by cultural racism. Bush wanted to spread “democracy” and “liberate” Muslims, particularly women, among other things. Muslims, he theorized, were incapable of developing these “culturally superior” ways of life on their own, so they must be molded and trained to be more like “us,” the civilized people. If racism represents systemic oppression based upon preconceived notions (or stereotypes) of particular social groups, then the U.S. government is most definitely guilty of racism. To be specific, cultural racism.

[@MartinMakepeace]

The gift that keeps on giving. A ‘movie star’ with a closed mind debating an open minded intellectual will never get boring.

[@janabrown9251]

You could remove “movie star” and just say person who prior to acting studied middle eastern affairs for about 1.5yrs- which Ben did and it was his college major. Something he then continued taking interest in.

[@ryugakishatu6372]

@@janabrown9251 Which is no where near enough to act as a know-it-all on Islam as he is trying to act here. 1.5 Years of college studies on Islam? Are you serious?? People spend DECADES studying this and are far more credible that his closet islamist apologist.

[@purpleprinc3]

A closed mind? 2:12 ""Islam is the motherload of bad ideas" What an incredibly ignorant thing to say, and you call him the open minded intellectual? Fair play to Ben Affleck!!

[@zika9921]

It's the other way around

[@rooks4ever]

I didn't see him talking to an open minded person, just saw 2 idiots talking about a subject that he had no idea what he was talking about. He even compared a hate crime to a death penalty. Thick idiots.

[@overthrowaudio]

Affleck is used to hearing "you're so right, Ben" at Hollywood dinner parties. This was likely the first time anyone challenged him and didn't give him the celebrity treatment lol.

[@HangrySaturn]

Damn right.

[@Ilyaswashere]

OMG this is so true

[@Stitchman3875]

The whole argument could’ve ended in a minute. Ben Affleck is being obnoxious. But Sam Harris’ position in the whole is “It’s okay when we do it.” When confronted by people who know what they’re talking about, the do different versions of what Affleck is doing here.

[@peppyhydra4544]

What the actual fuck is this Why is Ben Affleck debating Sam Harris

[@Rob_Cary]

The correct take lol The whole time I was watching this I was just like "lol.....Ben Affleck"

[@howiegruwitz3173]

Experimental propaganda was a fun age in America.

[@hamzamahmood9565]

Because celebrities live in movies their whole lives

[@lolahernandez6871]

For OUR entertainment. 🤣🤣🤣

[@aaryagandre4740]

The comment we deserved😂😂😂

[@themadmathematician3]

Sam Harris: The crucial point of confusion is that every criticism with the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry. Ben Affleck: Allow me to demonstrate!

[@Stitchman3875]

As Bill Maher got upset when Piers Morgan took him to task about the Iraq War which we illegally waged. After being pressed Maher throws some flippant "Well that is the kind of stuff Noam Chomsky would say". Noam Chomsky and Sam Harris were in a beef because Noam Chomsky rightly said we are just as much to blame as they are. All Harris says is "Well what were our intentions?" scenario, and tries to use WWII as an example of how we are just the good guys. Fact is we have been stirring trouble not only in that region, but in other regions of the world as well. We make and break deals with other regions (Iran Nuclear Agreement). I can agree that Affleck was a little erratic, but without Harris and Maher acknowledging that most of this was our doing, it can easily lean towards bigotry. Especially in Harris' analysis, the conclusion will always be America is the noble, altruistic, and benevolent nation. Islam, they are barbarians. Personally I think Harris and Maher should be stripped of the liberal label and just go to the Neocons.

[@se7enhaender]

@@Stitchman3875 What?! America is supposed to be the reason behind bad ideas in Muslim doctrine...? Because that's what's being criticised here. They killed apostates and stoned homosexuals to death long before the United States were formed and "America bad" doesn't address the issue one bit.

[@Stitchman3875]

@@se7enhaender Wrong, it all began when in 1953, we staged a coup in Iran and overthrew their democratically elected leader and installed a dictator and established an autocracy. All this so we can get cheaper oil. Then we kept their money after a revolution. Then in the 80's we backed Saddam Hussein when he fought Iran, while we knew he was killing people in his country. But we looked the other way. Al-Qaeda was part of the Taliban Government who we installed in Afghanistan after we backed them against the Soviet Union. We shot down an Iranian passenger plane and then said it was an accident. We started an illegal war with Iraq searching for fictitious WND's. Even recently, we pull out of the nuclear deal with Iran even though they were following it, and then sanctioned them, preventing their people from getting food and medicine. And then we have Saudi Arabia, the biggest Violator of human rights and the biggest sponsor of terrorism. Oh but wait, they're allies with the US, so it's cool, right? We entered a weapons deal with them, selling weapons which they used to commit genocide in Yemen. Not sure about you, but to me that kind of stuff tends to piss people off and would draw out the fanatics. We try to play it off like were the noble good guys, but we have shown the world that we are a bullying empire. That's why in spite of the Islamic Terrorism, the US still ranks number one as the biggest threat to world peace.

[@se7enhaender]

@@Stitchman3875 What does *ANY* of this have to do with *KILLING APOSTATES AND GAYS* because of religious belief?

[@Stitchman3875]

se7enhaender Because we were the ones who fueled the fire for the fanatics to come out. We trained them, armed them, then turned them into our enemies. We don’t just do that in the Middle East, we do it in Central and South America too. We are in no way innocent in this matter. I mean the US backed 73% of the world’s dictators. As I said, what we have done in the Middle East will eventually draw out the fanatics.

[@gregregregregregre]

as a general principle, don’t ask their opinion to an actor, they just repeat stuffs in search for applause

[@jtizzle1142]

hold on are you speaking in broad generalizations defending Sam who is doing the same thing? ohhhh sam when i thought you were smarts

[@tristanmoller9498]

@@jtizzle1142 No. I got the feeling that Ben Affleck was looking at the audience for approval of his statements here. Sam Harris actually strongly believes what he claims here. You can listen to his Podcast.

[@georgemckeon6710]

Sam Harris: Intellect Ben Affleck: Roid rage

[@gaoxinglangblog]

Sam Harris is like Matt Damon in "Good Will Hunting" and Ben Affleck is like Ben Affleck in "Good Will Hunting"

[@dihe1392]

🤣 he went full retarded for that role

[@JustMe-xz2bz]

Minus the humility to see it, because his character did.

[@acraze2287]

Comment of the century lmao

[@willisverynice]

This might be the best comment ever.

[@dgmickley]

Best comment ever!!

[@rekunta]

Ben wasn't even listening to what was being said, he was just venting out his own strawmans. What a clown. You know someone has lost an argument when they can't even retain composure. Painful to watch. Ben, stick to what you know. You walked off the deep end here.

[@BelialsGenuflect]

yea that was the most frustrating part it's like it went right in one ear and out the other, he wasn't listening to what was being said. funny thing, he was strawmaning the argument WHEN the argument was being made, just talked right over top sam and told him what he thinks when he's talking and saying something completely different.

[@soth1sol]

frustratingly redundant response ^

[@BelialsGenuflect]

+Sol Sothis So it was worth a reply?

[@Shadeslay7]

It happens to pretty much anyone that gets to emotional about a subject, they just become kind of retarded.

[@Elcherino123]

It's called standing up for what you believe in. You should try it some time.

[@thekyyle0e719]

I like what Christopher Hitchens said to bill. “Your audience will applaud for anything”

[@Jerome_111]

Why is Ben affleck so emotional while not knowing what he’s talking abt lmao

[@stephenk1004]

He looks like he's going to explode. We must never underestimate the rage that fuels the woke...

[@mznxbcv12345]

On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@tomnelson7474]

He was likely on steroids getting ready to play Batman

[@TheConquest88]

Virtue Signalling

[@TheConquest88]

​@@mznxbcv12345 My friend, I can see instantly that your numbers are incorrect. You give a breakdown of years between 2008 and present day which is nowhere near 161,233. The 161,233 Palestinian deaths, whilst tragic, are not from the last 14 years of mowing the lawn operations. Far from it, this number is actually all Palestinian deaths since 1948, including wars and even includes violence perpetrated by non-Israeli groups such as Black September (3,400 Palestinians killed by Jordan) and the War of the Camps (5,000 Palestinians killed by Lebanese Islamic militias). Look it up!! Yes, we can all find verses from any religion, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc which would seemingly support violence or support tolerance and peace. That is not to say that other religious, or non-religious groups for that matter, do not carry out violence, but the most important thing is their behaviour and actions which can be evidenced directly. Conservative estimates suggest the Armenian, Greek and Assyrian Genocides by the Ottomans Islamic Empire in the 1900s killed 600,000, 300,000 and 300,000 respectively. Those are conservative/lower estimates. More recently, in Muslim countries, Muslims themselves have killed upwards of 500,000 in Syria and 500,000 in Yemen. Not to mention genocides of the Yazidis, the Darfur Genocide and then the ongoing persecution by Muslims of Christians and other minorities in Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Iraq etc etc. There are many other examples and cases I could mention. I understand you may be emotionally driven and are trying to prove a point, but unfortunately your selective use of religious quotes means little in the face of evidence and your statistics are just false.

[@samann95014]

Most muslims get emotional & agitated exactly like Ben Affleck when you try to bring this point. Wondering what inspires them to get so emotional while talking about this religion of peace.

[@puzinthewise4854]

because they all know that islam is a religion of violence.

[@Chickenjuggle]

Probably because their feelings are getting hurt. Last I checked, nobody likes that.

[@Culturebreach]

This must be the same argument White supremacist say about Blacks. "Look at this violent black guy getting angry when I just called his entire race violent"

[@SolemnlyLove]

Wlamidir Puzin coming from a muslim that has read the islam book, ALL islam preaches is love.. dude the word islam is LITERALLY translated to "peace" in arabic..Do some research before generalizing a religion like that..

[@manara1906]

of course we get emotional.. how about attacking you or what you believe in?! or saying bad things, totally the opposite of what you believe in !! we get emotional 'cuz we luv Islam so much and we hate the idea that most of the people has a completely wrong idea about it... it's not fair that u Judge us, our religion, our lifestyle and clothes, from ur house and from what media shows u!! come to our country, socialize with real muslims and u'll understand what we all about

[@wayn0uk]

Can tell that Ben is not used to this sort of thing, he is clearly getting angry very easily...he thinks that it is an argument...

[@LucisFerre1]

It just goes to show that leftist retards like Affleck are alergic to facts and reality they can't emotionally deal with. Leftism has nothing to do with reality and facts and everything to do with their pseudo-religion of pretend time.

[@wyldeman0O7]

First this and now batman.. so sad :(

[@majordbag2]

I remember listening to an old Opie and Anthony clip where they more or less said Ben is used to being at Hollywood parties where almost everyone agrees with him and/or wants to suck up to him so no one ever challenges his views. He's not used to debating with someone who A) is more informed than him on this issue and B) is not afraid of telling him off so he gets pissed because that never happens to him in his day to day life. It sort of reminds me of an Adam Corolla story where Adam had a huge, screaming match with a guy because Adam, to make a long story short, told this dude "fuck you" and the dude blew up with rage because, while some people get told "fuck you" every day, this guy turned out to be a high-powered Hollywood agent who was used to people kissing his ass and freaked out when after getting cussed at.

[@Distephano]

He's pissed off at ignorance. Id be mad too if I had to waste my time explaining why you're a bigot.

[@majordbag2]

No, Affleck is pissed off because he is ignorant and while there is an argument against what Harris is saying (as the much smarter guy on Ben's side makes quite well), Affleck being an actor with very limited knowledge just doesn't the intellectual chops to make it. Again he's just a big Hollywood actor who is used to everyone just nodding their heads in agreement when he talks and isn't used to people actually arguing back.

[@dineshtosh]

And let me remind you ""He's Batman"" .... 🙃🙃🤣🤣

[@Millie.com232]

Sitting there like an angry drunk in a bar……oh wait

[@mr7wi]

Be quiet Ben. The adults are talking.

[@Varun616]

for real, he made a fool of himself

[@craigtheschmeg3253]

+mr7wi --- Ben Ben looked like he was going to cry. Poor Ben Ben...

[@khaoulamanser8510]

fuck u

[@mr7wi]

Khaoula Manser Really? Weak troll is weak.

[@mr7wi]

Khaoula Manser Be quiet. Adults are talking.

[@Macconator2010]

Ben, you're out of your league, you have to remember who you're debating here.

[@-The-Darkside]

An Author of a book who's never visited the Middle east, who will not debate Noam Chomsky in public.

[@Macconator2010]

Clee Van Leaf So for the record you are saying that Ben isn't out of his league?

[@-The-Darkside]

CyaLatte​ Ben is, but Sam Harris would be, should it be someone who knows, has visited and dealt with all religions for half a century. Sam is an equal opportunist, though he doesnt realise millions of peaceful Muslims are and have been also killed by fanatics but the numbers don't come close to deaths via Non religious and Christians in the last 100 years at least. He should brush up on his history of the crusades, and modern wars.

[@-The-Darkside]

Sam is so obviously Jewish or favours Jews, which is why he gets so much air time despite having no qualifications in anything to do with history, religion or geopolitics. He's a neurosurgeon.

[@Macconator2010]

Clee Van Leaf And what of Hitchens who has been to the Middle East, who had similar things to say on Islam? Bringing Christians and the crusades into the debate is a non sequitur. One evil act does not wash out another. The crusades were hundreds of years ago, the problem of Islam is now. This is irrelevant. Jewish? Again non sequitur. Evidence? This is not an argument. You've brought nothing to the table except blatant fallacies and baseless accusations.

[@thatsameenergy]

Revisted this gem today. Still makes me laugh.

[@shabbydabby9976]

This aged like shit. 10 years later, now we came to know, ISIS was made by hilary clinton, Al-Qaeda was made by CIA, USA invaded over 45 countries since WW2, including Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria wars... so stop blaming muslims for what YOU have created and done. Go educate yourself, instead of listening to what others say

[@mohammadfarooqi6255]

And what is funny

[@thatsameenergy]

@@mohammadfarooqi6255 that Ben thinks criticism of extremist ideology is racist. First off, criticism of a religion wouldn't be racist. It would be bigotry. But nothing that was said was bigotry. Sam was critical of Islamic extremist while also saying we need to support moderate and secular Muslims who are voices of peace and understanding. Ben trying to be enlightened and woke on the topic is one of the most hilarious attempts at woke-scolding I've ever seen.

[@mohammadfarooqi6255]

@@thatsameenergy And what about what Bill Maher said? Sam is an intellectual to some degree while Bill is a total idiot.

[@Abey608]

@@thatsameenergy nuh uh , sam and bill maher make fun of muslims as a whole , and generlizes them being extremist

[@saramahoney120]

THIS IS THE CLIP I WAS LOOKING FOR! Every other clip is someone talking over the clip or only playing a select portion of the clip that enforces their political narrative.

[@SC_17]

Ben's input in Maher's discussions is just as bad as his acting

[@xarzu]

+Sonny Chow LOL

[@paralumandiwata6629]

+Sonny Chow So true.

[@ninobrown2073]

+TheBonerizer YOU WILL............................

[@SC_17]

realscummy Sam Harris and Bill Maher never mentioned killing or punishing muslims did they? They were just criticizing the bad ideas in the Book of Islam. Ben Affleck interpreted that as racist which was wrong to begin with.

[@SC_17]

Noah Hilliard I've watched at least ten of his films and his acting was terrible in every one of them except for 'The Town', which was not bad, but not that special either. If his acting improved at all in his last two films, good for him. But i have no interest watching his films anymore.

[@bubediscuss]

This video title is misleading. It says Ben Affleck debates.

[@Quetzalcoatl_86]

Perfection

[@new-dystopia]

He's not even taking part in the same conversation as the rest of them.

[@deuelellan2446]

this comment is so funny. it needs more likes

[@dacerobertson2968]

Facts

[@SpencerJMusic]

Lol

[@PhilosophicalDrummer]

Thats why actors are actors. They are good at acting but when it comes to be them they destroy the image that people idolize them with.

[@REHANKHAN-en5zn]

The first time I heard this I supported Ben, but now I have matured enough to understand and support Bill and Sam.

[@DavidAdarmases12]

Lol. So you got dumber as you got older?

[@phamnhat2925]

Bill Maher: *makes list of core liberal beliefs* Sam Harris: *discusses rational criticism of Islam as a religion* Ben Affleck: *appeals to emotion* MUH RACISM MUH REFUGEES MUH PHOBIA *loudly interrupts other members of the panel* MUH HUMANITARIAN MUH DICTATORS MUH CONFLICTS

[@sophiejackson5763]

+Pham Nhat No Ben Affleck was just explicit unlike Bill and used common sense and morality.

[@phamnhat2925]

+Sophie Jackson Tell you what, if Trump doesn't belong in the White House because he's a celebrity and he's only good for entertainment, then someone who makes a movie as bad as Gigli shouldn't belong on a political debate panel.

[@sophiejackson5763]

Can't compare Trump and Ben. IMPOSSIBLE!! BEN AFFLECK IS UNCOMPARABLE!!! Especially to a douche who wants to kick out all Muslims and is racist as f*ck!! And Trump doesn't belong to the White house not because of his crappy NOT GOOD entertainment but he is an absolute idiot. Where should I start? Who the f*ck wants a racist and discriminatory President?? And just because someone is a celebrity doesn't mean they are property/objects that can't speak on political issues!! They ALL have the right. The only thing I'll stand up for about Trump is that he has the right to express whatever he wants but I'm against EVERYTHING he says! Ben Affleck I stand up for whatever he has to say + I agree with everything he says!! DON'T SUPPORT TRUMP I MEAN COME ON IT'S ALMOST 2016 AND PPL STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND EQUALITY, ONE OF THE BASIC ASPECTS OF LIFE!!..... BTW WHERE THE F*CK DID DONALD TRUMP COME FROM??

[@patrick4220]

+Sophie Jackson Ben Affleck got famous because he looks good on film. Sam Harris got famous because of his intelligence. Affleck is no more qualified to comment on political or religious issues than you or Trump. And BTW Saint Affleck cheated on his wife.

[@sophiejackson5763]

+Patrick Sam Harris got famous because of his controversial ideas. Nothing intelligent!! Same like Miley Cyrus. The only reason you probably worship the bastard is because he is discriminatory like Trump. And Ben can say whatever the f*ck he likes to. It's your opinion on whether you think Ben is a good actor so let's put that aside. Now tell me what "qualifications" do you have to have to comment on political issues?? EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN OR NO ISSUES WOULD BE RESOLVED BY SILENCING PPL!! WHO THE F*CK IS SAINT?? IF YOU MEAN BEN THEN THAT'S HIS PERSONAL LIFE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!! AND BTW MOTHERF*CKER YOU DON'T KNOW ME SO YOU JUST PROVED WHAT A DUMB ASS YOU ARE BY SAYING I'M DUMB AS DONALD TRUMP. THE ONLY THING I SAID WAS BEN IS RIGHT IN THIS SCENARIO AND THE OTHERS ARE WRONG!! NOW KINDLY F*CK OFF!!

[@DamianSAAAN]

Seriously Ben you couldn't understand that. I hate every person that clapped for you. It's ideas and beliefs that come about because of Religion that are poison. I had to breakup with my ex girlfriend because I wasn't Mormon. Another ex girlfriend when expressing reasons why we should break up was because I didn't believe in her imaginary God. Now I don't have to hear them talk about their goals and aspirations and pretend like I care but that's not that point and we always get that stupid line, "But they're not fundamentalists." Ideas are poisonous, Yeah only a few people fly into buildings but where did those ideas come from? I'm glad most people don't actually practice their Religion correctly because otherwise tons more people would be killed.

[@gavindanaher5430]

"I hate every person that clapped you" you hate? Why do you hate? I stopped reading the comment when i saw that line

[@gavindanaher5430]

***** you are nitpicking. That comment was on the made on the spur of the moment

[@gavindanaher5430]

***** oh and Sam Harris said "Islam is just a motherload of bad ideas" wtf is he talkin bout. It doesnt sound like he is "educated" on this topic

[@gavindanaher5430]

*****​ hav a friend from sudan who is a very strict muslim

[@DamianSAAAN]

Gavin Danaher Islam is the motherload of bad ideas. If you disagree you haven't read the Quran.

[@kokonut6215]

how very slowly we learn.... 9 years later, where are we?

[@halaamin2499]

What about Assange??? Where is the freedom of speech...hypocrites

[@Folma7]

It’s not that Affleck isn’t listening. It’s that he hasn’t the ability to understand what is being said nor the capacity to think for himself.

[@_greenrunner_]

AfghanHearts sure bro

[@Heycollege2010]

@@AfghanHearts So if someone hits you, it's okay to just hit them back? That's the correct response in our society today?

[@davestuddaman8127]

Afghan, A+ trolling. I mean you’re a fkn idiot. But still, good trolling

[@RLamberton1]

AfghanHearts ok. But they are there now, right?

[@AfghanHearts]

Dave Studdaman i wasn't "trolling". i said the truth you loser

[@kopolojoyono]

my goodness, Ben Affleck's brain is a chaos

[@bobddddubixxlina1797]

+kopolojoyono No wonder he said okay to that BvS Script.

[@Varun616]

+Bobddd Dubixxlina Lol

[@floriswazza]

+kopolojoyono Ben affleck is a white guilt riddled man. look up that video about him trying to pressure a company to hide the fact that he had slave ancestors

[@Flyingtart]

+kopolojoyono He gets agitated and loses the ability to argue. An ability he otherwise would have had if it were not for his little sphere of Hollywood celebrities cirklejerking their opinions rendering him unable to face different opinions. Most people are like that, honestly.

[@dcupmusic]

+kopolojoyono cocaine is my guess

[@munray805]

This clip has aged like fine wine😂 Western chauvinism 'Murica *chef's kiss*🎉

[@gnbman]

He should have known mot to invite the Batman on his show. Bill for sure thinks he came out of this exchange looking like he was in the right lol.

[@nathhenn8966]

why was Ben Affleck even here? He literally acted like he knows more then the people who are doing their jobs.

[@craigtheschmeg3253]

+Ramble Onward --- Ben was there for Bill Maher's weekly HBO sausage fest.

[@rawrxd6985]

Do you actually think bill knows shit about Islam? He said Quran is the book of hatred. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard

[@moh123456789egypt]

Doing their jobs by not knowing anything and speaking on behalf of muslim even though they know nothing about it.

[@mahmoudfuad1868]

exactly

[@mahmoudsayed9294]

Nath Henn, Some Muslim army leaders were as young as 17 years old, many things has changed. Plus the young woman you're talking about (عائشة - 'aisha) she was still alive years and years after Prophet Mohammad died (PBUH) to answer all people's questions, he married her for a purpose. Please read before you say such things, read about Islam to prove yourself right or to know what's right. It's all there, there's no excuse.

[@EpicMRPancake]

Affleck doesnt seem to understand that Harris and Maher aren't condemning a whole people based on the actions of some extremists, but rather condemning Islam itself for the bad ideas inherent in the religion, which is supported by the large majority of muslims, not just the extremists.

[@ATW5O3]

I think you're spot on. But! Just some food for thought... I also think the bigger point to be made is that there are bad ideas inherent in all religions. I think the point that Harris should make is that 'we' shouldn't have to protect the moderate voices in Islam -- cause, honestly (in my opinion), people should just be better than this. However, the western world did have to create laws in order to protect minorities. These laws were created and past although at the times in which these laws were first coming into being there was a lot of opposition to them -- even violence. The Civil Rights movement is a prime example and that was only 50 years ago, and when Abraham Lincoln signed a certain proclomation declaration into law against the will of a large portion of the population of America. I think Ben is alluding to this idea but is unable to see it. My point that this isn't just a Muslim problem (nor would I say it is just a religious problem, though religion is often the tool used to justify these atrocious feelings and actions) but that it is a people problem, as even the liberal western world had to pass laws and make policies that prevented people from harming/exploiting minorities. Overtime we've come to understand these laws as morally sound and justifiable from a humanistic aspect but there's still is hatred and bigotry even in the most civilized countries -- not nearly as extreme or violent (anymore), but it's still there. We should not forget these lessons and ultimately the "Christian" and "Secular" Western World can not impose our morals onto another religion without consequence because Islamic countries must be changed my Muslims; or, should I say, countries must be shaped and changed by the peoples of said country. And, unfornately, history has shown this is a long and violent process. However, I am not saying we shouldn't help, nor am I saying we should leave the moderate voices of Islam to fend for themselves. What i am saying is that it is a far more complex issue than Harris and Maher are making it out to be and a problem that all of us are subject too. In conclusion, do I think Islam or any other relgion is the problem? in this case I do not. People have been justifying the mistreatment of other people by any means necessary for quiet sometime, it just so happens that religion is an excellent platform to preach prejudice but these prejudice tendencies run far deeper than scripture.

[@hichamchivu3468]

What r these bad ideas ?

[@ATW5O3]

wail chivu you're kidding, right? have you read the Qu'ran or the Bible. they're full of bad ideas.

[@syndiccalls6993]

wail chivu If you want to know the ideas read the books.

[@khaliladam9952]

EpicMRPancake wtff do u think u know islam? all of u r just barking here thinks they know everything ,, go check and read about islam not just picking and repeating poeple's talking.

[@shanehall8606]

6:07 Affleck is quietly pissed as hell

[@frank9253]

This hasn’t aged well for Affleck.

[@mostafabashir7660]

Do you really believe that the Islamic world and 'Egypt' want to kill other people and Islam is a religion of bloodthrust and war?

[@yonatanmedvedev]

The audience are just a bunch of people who enjoy clapping

[@parkervarin]

underrated comment

[@Cambrandreth]

On an episode in which he was a guest, Hitchens referred to the audience of Real Time as "The clap anything brigade"

[@estebanuno4103]

The audience is the worst part of the show.

[@connorpratt4874]

Made a comment similar to this but not as clever lol

[@viveka_r]

Nope

[@CNRhKXtreme]

I lost a great deal of respect for Ben Affleck during this episode. He tried to bully Sam Harris and got just shut down. He's basically saying we're not allowed to judge bad ideas if the ideas are Islamic.

[@DarrenSemotiuk]

The bullying attempt happens once his subconscious realizes his position is not rationally defensible. Ego results in Cognitive Dissonance results in overly emotional response (verbal bullying here, whereas might even lead to physical violence if on the streets with thousands of other emotionally fired up ideology-mates). Scott Adams analyzed this in Feb.2017: blog.dilbert.com/post/156857834926/sam-harris-induces-cognitive-dissonance-in-ben

[@kuman309]

interesting.. thanks.

[@DungeonFreak79]

Darren Semotiuk thank you for that link! Fascinating.

[@ph0ngLP]

Ben Affleck was trying to white knight. The commentators were discussing the pervasiveness of culture and poisonous ideas. Something most americans can probably identify with after the last election on both sides. But Affleck wanted to go back to this thing about 'a few bad apples'. That's not realistic. It's systemic and it's in the culture. To act that way, and turn a blind eye, hurts those trying to make changes internally. To ignore it, and take some sort of vacant high-road, helps no one. Acknowledge the problem and then understand the problem... We aren't even at the acknowledgement step, let alone the understanding step or even the glimmer of a solution, but as long as we Affleck and dig our heads in the sand, things are worse for all parties.

[@thesuns4298]

there isn't bad islamic ideas

[@anachronistofer]

I hope Affleck now regrets his ignorant behavior in this segment. Firstly, Islam is not a race, Ben---it's a religious belief. Being against Islam does not make one a racist.

[@hafsahhaq8371]

Kinda interesting why they didn’t have any Muslims in this debate to actually talk to you about the topic that concerns them. Since it would help bring in a lot of educational points in regard to Islam and so on.

[@craigthurlow9308]

They’d just SPEW isLIEmoSUPREMACIST TAQQIYA like the FILTH they are🤮🖕👊🏿

[@majamomajamo3917]

Irrelevant. They’re discussing women and homosexual oppression within the group as a whole. Your point is just what Ben was making, and it’s so irrelevant if you are actually aware of the topic at all.😅

[@anismca2581]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@majamomajamo3917 irrelevent to what exactly! ben was realist so what point YOU are trying to make here?

[@muditkhanna8164]

Mind that its an "intellectual debate"!

[@majamomajamo3917]

@@anismca2581 I would suggest you learn the fundamental fallacies of debate.

[@2HRTS1LOVE]

Ben Affleck seriously thought he could take on Sam Harris and not end up looking like a total fool? That's some hubris and ego, my friends! Lol, and I'm a Christian! That's what happens when all your friends are your employees and no one ever calls you on it when you say something monumentally stupid. You start to think you're as smart as Sam Harris.

[@ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204]

Good post!

[@cbbatista]

WLC... LOL.

[@mr.rancor4875]

batfleck thinks bank balance means a higher IQ

[@soth1sol]

sam harris thinks a lack of proof of god is evidence of a lack of god. burden of proof goes to whomever lays claim. a-theist = NO GOD!!! literally, etymologically. that's their PHANTOM BULLSHIT line in the sand. yet, there is zero proof that god does not exist. so.. ... so much for the IQ of sam harris (and all self-proclaimed a-/theists for that matter) ...nnnnnnnnnnnnnext!

[@akilliez]

Movie Jimmy 777 we all do respect if you were to ask that question we can go on and on about who created the bigger God and so fourth. Or we can accept that our God is eternal. The alpha and omega the beginning and end. On the other note I respect Sam Harris he is an intelligent human being and gets down to the root of everything. As for his theory of Gods non-existence it is only a theory of course have you looked at the bible how many facts, astrological facts and historical facts.

[@jcc7508]

The audience is the most annoying person here.

[@manpreetsabharwal1492]

How?

[@JohnathanCamien]

No Ben wins that. He was showing what a part of the democrat party is today, he would not shut up so there could actually be discussion. He was trying to shut everyone else down that he didn't agree with by talking over them. That's not how you have civil discourse.

[@musiclaboratory9694]

@@JohnathanCamien well that sounds like a very republic thing to do if you base it off our current presidents average press briefing...

[@JohnathanCamien]

@@musiclaboratory9694 oh ok. If you say so.

[@CaukyAsian]

No Ben is by far.

[@TheRigomoni]

ben was on a hangover during this interview

[@PiepoSweet]

Who invited Ben to the big kids table?

[@deadeaded]

At 1:10 "The crucial point of confusion is that we have been sold this meme of islamophobia, where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry towards Muslims as people." And then Ben proceeds to spend the next nine minutes proving Sam right.

[@valhala56]

The meme of Islamphobia was created by Islamist to be sold to Liberals which licked it up like it was a double chocolate Baskin Robbins. and no I am not conservative I am as far left as you can get but I was not sold on lies.

[@cpob2013]

valhala56 bullseye

[@LewdConnoisseur]

"The meme of Islamphobia was created by Islamist to be sold to Liberals which licked it up like it was a double chocolate Baskin Robbins. and no I am not conservative I am as far left as you can get but I was not sold on lies." You sound like one though. More like a conspiracy nutjob at that.

[@LewdConnoisseur]

valhala56 Insulting people doesn't further your argument.

[@deadeaded]

***** Glad to hear that you don't think insulting people accomplishes anything. It makes me wonder, though, why you decided to call him a conspiracy nutjob. How about you both refrain from insulting each other unless you have something interesting to say.

[@BlackHowl1]

6 years later and this doesn't get any easier to watch...

[@uhohhotdog9150]

Right? I come back to this video every now and then and it is never any less painful

[@jeffreypearce9572]

So true and every time I see Ben afflict in something this is the first thing I think about it’s burned into my brain

[@masongalioth4110]

How did Ben Actually convince himself that Sam Harris of all people was trying to be racist? It just blows my mind.

[@binal-flecki2387]

Islam is the elephant in the room we all try our best to avoid but must eventually acknowledge.

[@masongalioth4110]

Bin al-Flecki have you also noticed how many people are scared that this is a racist attack on the people? Its crazy. This is simply a battle for the ideas that are holding them. I suppose it only makes sense given that when Criticising Islam, Middle Easterners consider it an attack on them as Brown people, in the same way that when Christianity was being criticised for the first time, Westerners considered it an attack on White people.

[@LeithYearwood]

Ben needs to have the difference between an idea and people explained to him in a script he reads to appear to finally get it.

[@Damian-cd2tj]

This is why Ben is an actor that says what other people write

[@michaellombard3524]

Why is Affleck even on this panel? He's so out of his depth the pressure is crushing his lungs.

[@britbloc123]

I thought Affleck was the dark knight but it turns out he's a white knight. :(

[@ZiplineShazam]

He's on the Roids

[@MMacAttack]

Bens used to spouting at Hollywood dinner parties and feeling smart vs. Sam Harris. This ain’t that Ben

[@FunWhiletubing]

100% the reason he was getting that upset.

[@michaellombard3524]

I laughed so hard when he started off about "just wanna go get some sandwiches..."

[@stefspin3057]

Can someone tell Ben Islam isn't a race 🤦‍♂️

[@late8641]

A good definition is that a race is something you cannot decide to be part of or leave. But wait, most muslims can't leave islam because of the threat of capital punishment, so I guess they are a race after all. Maybe I should point out just in case that the latter was a joke.

[@late8641]

@@tomasp3394 Did you read the entire comment? I said it was a joke.

[@late8641]

@@hakarva2584 No, it just makes you a bigot.

[@zub41r75]

Islam - African/Arabian Judaism and Christianity - European/White Constantly attacks Islam and not the other 2 and says Islam is not a race to seem not racist. You racists are getting dumber everyday

[@late8641]

@@zub41r75 Holy shit your comment is ignorant

[@jimmym02]

would be nice to revisit this convo

[@gooddognigel9992]

Ben’s problem: no script

[@satoshinakamoto7253]

He's a modern day court jester - what do you expect?

[@mrbass1310]

hes thinking what the hell am i doing here. I wish they would talk sports

[@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut]

Sam Harris' problem itself is no brain, which is even worse.

[@antiracistbaby1085]

@@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut Okay Ben Affleck fangirl,

[@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut]

@@antiracistbaby1085 What's wrong? Your idol Harris gets called what he is (a brainless snake oil salesman) and you resort to name calling?

[@Collectorp123]

Observing the clapping and applause of the cleverly crafted points of Sam Harris and Bill Maher and then the immediate shifting over to the unintelligible and idiotic whims of Ben Affleck exhibits a kind of schizophrenic mania in which the audience will ignorantly give approval of whatever "sounds nice"...

[@Chrono337]

+Collectorp123 Only Chris Hitchens could put then in their place!

[@jameswayton2340]

+Collectorp123 I hear you mean. I stopped listing to this (converstation) because: People always think to much in black and white. Almost everything in the world is a mix of the two. THIS, is right and THAT is wrong. Thats how they talk to each other.

[@mickeyO95]

+Collectorp123 i genuinely thought u were being sarcastic when you started that comment. I'm really glad mr. Affleck said something to these ignorant ass people

[@SpencerNeutron]

+Collectorp123 It is, however, entirely possible and more likely that only a portion of the audience clapped for their Maher/Smith, and then a wholly different portion clapped for Affleck with little overlap between the two. Without seeing the audience on-screen, it makes more sense to choose the one scenario where we don't assume they're all manic schizos

[@jameswayton2340]

DIE People should make up there own mind. Don't get ourselfs exited like a bunch of monkey's. And blindy following opinions of others without thinking first. I thought people where not this stupid bu have learned most of the them are. Okay stupid is the wrong word. But you get what i mean

[@williambamann1845]

I still can’t believe this was 9 years ago

[@MegaFlorest]

5:31 "I'm too stupid to debate any of the points you just made...to be honest I wasn't even listening to them. Hopefully the guy on my side is smarter than me."

[@garypCronshaw]

Tonight we present Ben Affleck in his role as an uninformed actor

[@clemalford]

More like an opinionated Batman (I have a lot of money so I think I am god)

[@ag4137]

clemalford wow, solid comment 🤙

[@0xsergy]

@@clemalford and steroids cause of the batman movie filming being when this podcast was done. plus, i'm thinking coke lol. He is CONSTANTLY sniffing, putting his fingers to his nose and so on. I'm not a coke dude but that to me says something is up.

[@aseelanza]

@deusEx horninn kjemnr They were ganging up on him

[@stevenpoole7235]

Clearly Bruce had a tipple before stumbling into the wrong studio.

[@goktugblack]

Sorry but it is simply unfair to put Ben Affleck against Sam Harris on such a complicated discussion. Sam Harris is one of the top living elocutionists today and intellectually FAR superior to Ben Affleck. The prospect of Ben Affleck wins this discussion is more improbable than Sam Harris outacting Ben Affleck in some movie... Regards

[@BelialsGenuflect]

I agree but really there is no debate to be had anyway, I mean the things they're talking about are well documented and cemented in data. No matter how intelligent you are, if you say Islam doesn't have any problems worth worrying about, you'd have to be delusional.

[@goktugblack]

Well put. Because of his sheer ignorance, Ben Affleck is incapable to grasp that this is not a matter of discussion, but a matter of facts.

[@ycland]

What Maher does is put people on from different walks of life, even if they are all traditionally wealthy or pseudo-intellectuals. Ben's problem is is that he couldn't fathom that anyone would have a different or more informed opinion than himself and was using the classic mistake of just trying to talk over everyone else to make it seem like he was the authority. You see this all the time, unfortunately it is one of the more effective means of getting your point across to the general public, regardless of authenticity or truthfulness.

[@mr7wi]

Ben learned that there is a difference between a sound position based on reason, thought and a understanding of a difficult, complex subject and thinking you're awesome at theatre sports. Much like +Quesa, I think this was the first time Ben realized that good looks and charm only work in Hollywood.

[@usnate1]

Well it's not fair, and no one ever talks about it, but genetics is genetics. Sam is educated on the subject, but I have a feeling he is simply naturally more intelligent...

[@hope1416]

Ask a woman who grew up in Iran how she feels about radical Islam. She will side with Sam's views.

[@RememberingWW2]

Now I know why Bruce Willis didn't trust Ben to blow up the asteroid in Armageddon.

[@evanfitzpatrick8919]

Good one :)

[@benchcg]

...now I know why jen left him

[@TR-sg9jc]

Nik D'Agostino he's a soyboy

[@perrymatwishyn2506]

that's funny!

[@samaliraqi7324]

Nik D'Agostino I like that very funny lol

[@nickg0261]

Affleck is so lucky that the late great Christopher Hitchens was not on this panel.

[@brianjoe1425]

NickG 02 agreed!!!! That would’ve been epic.

[@michaelangeloright704]

Bennifer would cry if Christopher Hitchens was on that guest panel. .. So true

[@1982romit]

Haha can't agree more. Sam is much more compassionate in criticism than Hitch who would have minced him..

[@michaelangeloright704]

Listen at 2:10 Bennifer realized what he is going to say. . We are Endowed by Our Creator That All Men Are Created Equal. He stops himself to then say We are endowed by our Fore Fathers... Rich guy Bennifer what has happened. Aka Sj.snowflake now. Relax bro don't do that to yourself Bennifer. .. Well the damage is done.

[@strangerdanger1271]

Sam is great but Hitch would have not stood for any bullshit from Batman.

[@kevin71127]

dude... Affleck is a waking nightmare in this clip

[@MikkaBoii]

I wonder if Ben Affleck realizes how bad he looks in this video.

[@youneism]

no he looks great

[@jimboucher8871]

Idea: Invite Justin Beiber on to offer his thoughts about ancient Mesopotamia. It makes about as much sense as asking Ben Affleck what he thinks about jihadism

[@valgehiir]

excellent suggestion! Beebs knows whats up, and unlike Ben here, maybe even not high on coke

[@jul9cuz]

I wonder what my car mechanic thinks about the Earth being flat? Wait, no I don't. I have my own life to live.

[@labaguette2728]

It makes about as much sense as asking Ben Affleck about how to be a good actor.

[@rockvoorhees7724]

i could also tell he was really high on coke - he wasn't even listening to anyone but himself

[@sagnikmondal4058]

Eyad Jaara Listen to his talks.

[@papillonvu]

I now understand why it was Matt Damon who played Will Hunting!

[@Gcarse]

And Ben was just basically playing himself.

[@beautifulfeetpreachingsc]

Affleck is definitely not wickedly smart

[@markatom7913]

Damon sucks politically too. Writing Will Hunting is not being Will Hunting. They are both Affleck's character... - Great actors and writers though!

[@heydudewhatsup]

Hahah made me lol at work

[@Locateson]

smaaaaat

[@Stefson2003]

Funny how @7.00 he talks about brave souls to speak out when 3min in the interview the guy on the left said he's friend got shot for doing this 😂

[@gkbhai8962]

Ben should not have done cocaine that day.

[@smicksmookety]

"let me unpack this for you" Ben: "please do" *Unpacks it* *Ben cries internally*

[@danielanderson2716]

The chicken Sam Harris has been running away from debating experienced Muslims & Christian apologists for years now! 😆

[@markh1011]

@@danielanderson2716 Yeah you really got Harris good with that post... Harris has done the debate circuit... he did it years ago. Get some new material.

[@danielanderson2716]

@@markh1011 You're only spamming how Ben Affleck humiliated chicken Harris with his bullshit's in front of millions. Cry up harder, kiddo. Hehe! 😛😛😛

[@markh1011]

@@danielanderson2716 Harris calmly dismantled a man well out of his depth... It must have really hurt you... because you've cried about Harris all up and down the page.... The emojis represent your tears.... lol

[@danielanderson2716]

@@markh1011 Affleck humiliated Harris in front of millions & that stings you. Try to cope, kiddo! 😛 You may commence the crying now! Hehehehe! 😜😜😜

[@danielcadwell9812]

Ben Affleck is an emotional child.

[@DZ-hh5dw]

Well it's not surprising, it's difficult being around bigots and keeping a level head

[@hermieproductions6665]

@@DZ-hh5dw oh shut up

[@MICHAEL_MAY8]

@@DZ-hh5dw let me guess...a Muslim??.

[@DZ-hh5dw]

​@@MICHAEL_MAY8 Me? No, atheist my entire life.

[@MICHAEL_MAY8]

@@DZ-hh5dw hmm interesting. Sounds like you and those "bigots" have something in common!

[@TheBeNnY5565]

The most annoying thing is when someone who is clearly not very well informed, Ben Affleck in this case, just speaks over the top of people who are well spoken, well informed and extremely knowledgeable on this topic. It’s just extremely frustrating and hard to watch.

[@Ben-jitsu23]

You mean Islamophobic people ridiculing an entire religion with 2 billion+ people

[@purpleprinc3]

So what's "Islam is the motherload of bad ideas" mean? Could you give an example?

[@zika9921]

The others bgts are a bunch of ignorant fc.ks

[@mariaaqm]

I love how Bill Maher says we should stand up for liberal ideas such as freedom of speech and religion but then goes on to condemn a religion.

[@Peatopher90]

Are you incapable of comprehending that there might be nuance to the idea of freedom for anything? Like maybe we draw the line for freedom at when you cut peoples heads off in public for having opinions you don't like, or because of their religion or sexuality or political affiliation being different? I don't really understand how people defend Islam as if it's not an objectively more violent and oppressive religion than whatever the rest of the world practices. You should study a bit of history too, it's not necessarily new. Not saying Christian societies haven't imperialized the world and committed genocides etc, but it wasn't religious doctrine to do so. When the muslim world took over large swathes of western civilization a thousand years ago, they treated all non-muslims like animals. They've always been intolerant barbarians. The world is a worse place because of them.

[@Yetaxa]

Most religions, especially Islam, is about as far from 'liberal ideas' as you can get.

[@Alan_Page]

Good lord are you having cognitive difficulties? How many times do they have to say that they're condemning the extremely illiberal things in the religion, like the violent subjugation of women, the violent persecution of LGBTQ people, the violent punishment for engaging in free speech, etc.? These things are in Christianity but presently, in part due to the religious doctrines used to guide followers, they are much less extreme. And these same people are critical of these things in all religions, including Christianity. But you are a flat out liar if you try to claim that Islam isn't worse currently in leading to theocracies that implement these terrible things. And it's in good part because the doctrine itself is more extreme and violent.

[@jh047o]

@@Yetaxa Lmao so you don't talk about Judaism or Christanity which are obviously both more extreme then Islam but only specifically criticize it.

[@zaineridling]

Affleck showed his ass here. Let Harris talk and learn something.

[@96rorrim]

Affleck revealed his ass? Don't you mean he revealed his thoughts....oh, DUH. So obvious, I couldn't figure it out!

[@danhamakua9757]

96rorrim Revealed that he's an ass.

[@moemunny4903]

96rorrim Well, his thoughts are coming from his ass, so same difference...

[@dennisj6384]

Ben Afleck is not in the same intellectual league as Sam Harris. Mr Afleck is simply being politically correct & regurgitating statements that people make when they are uncomfortable talking about religion, specifically Islam.

[@ulmo5536]

Fuck, now I will think about all of this ignorance by Ben Affleck when I watch his Batman...

[@seratoninabuse]

Point Your head

[@krabz9390]

GMOATILLIATA they are all the same in a way that they all believe in a fairy tale ghost god. They all follow a pedophile murderer.

[@Emitts_Official]

Cry more

[@som9097]

Islam permits its followers to lie to "non believers ". Christianity teaches " a lie is always Sinful in itself " A huge chasm between the two belief systems. Very troubling.

[@iqroyussuf5324]

Lol lets zoom out a little, Islam also talks about lying is a sin, but can lie about your religion to nonbelievers who want to kill you for being a Muslim you can do this to save your life and God always knows what in your heart. Wow see the difference…. Let's not cherry pick verses. And plz lets not even go to chrsitanty which is full of contradictions, and hate… can't compare two religion one that is man made and one that is the truth

[@jh047o]

?????? The first thing is not even correct where did you even get it from?

[@adamgrimsley2900]

Legend has it Ben is still staring into the middle distance looking for his pount.

[@thunderbirdizations]

Ben makes some very interesting points. He should become an actor.

[@johnalred6086]

This made me spit my milk. Damn you.

[@JerseySlayer]

LOL

[@toughsoft321]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thunderbirdizations]

Hate to explain punchlines, but It’s a play on words, since Sam Harris is known to look very similar to Ben Stiller, in an argument with Ben Affleck. I was referring to Ben stiller

[@filmmekker]

He needs writers.

[@kateson6986]

“A fool takes no pleasure in understanding but only in expressing his opinion.” Proverbs 18:2

[@MineSomeCraftPoo]

@nabil chowdhury too bad the Qur'an is the literal word of god

[@B.P._]

@nabil chowdhury I can't tell if this is satire but if its not then I guess you need to stop proving yourself wrong by literally proving the comment you replied to absolutely correct.

[@Ephesians--zs6pv]

Amen!! When you see the son of men coming down from heaven you will know he is lord

[@typicalsweg5290]

@nabil chowdhury for the 20% thing, i think sam is referring to shia muslims which are the bad ones. sunnis represent the rest

[@tyndaleverwer4509]

@nabil chowdhury I can see where you are coming from people completely overlook the Good qualities of this culture brotherhood,hospitality e.t.c but you are not naive enough to think that jihadists are just blood thirsty maniacs .....whatever they are they are also passionate about Islam you can say these 20% have interpreted it wrongly but don't say they are fake or they don't believe ...we can do better ...we can all agree that the study and CRITIQUE of the quran/Islam is not encouraged enough

[@avrilelight]

A really good “Spot the Fool” video.

[@rjsmcl1]

Ben Affleck as Batman is like he is on Bills show

[@EGstill85]

This is the result of having a culture that believes celebrities intrinsically hold some higher wisdom which they should be given a platform to impart on the rest of us. We are literally watching a debate on the moral virtue of 1.5 billion people between a neuroscientist and Batman...only in America

[@leahg3926]

And they believe their own press

[@ferbyfurben9640]

HAHAHAH. well said.

[@ronmullick253]

Did you even understand what Ben was saying. You think it is OK to stereotype 1.5 billion people based on their religion. When the fact is that Muslims have hundreds of different interpretations of their religion. Where was Ben wrong?????

[@ferbyfurben9640]

@@ronmullick253 That's exactly the point. Sam Harris isn't against people, he's against bad ideas. Read a few chapters of the quran (in context) and you will find it's full of awful ideas. Most muslim countries have little respect for freedom: blasphemy is punishable by law and the scripture supports this. The quran and hadith are medieval books with any number of justifications for bad behavior, from wife beating to child marriage: unfortunately, large masses of the islamic word accept this.

[@leahg3926]

@@ronmullick253 You didnt get Harris's point either!

[@salsajames01]

Ben just shooting blindly, he should've kept his mouth shut...... He made himself looked stupid in this conversation

[@salsajames01]

+JamieLan2011 LOL, that's a good one

[@nah.4798]

Are you delusional? Lmao. Did you even watch the video??

[@salsajames01]

+Nah. Did you? Did you see Ben debating without even listening to Bill or Sam? That's just like you !

[@anarchycastro]

"you are the stupid he is talking true" ---- haha, is this a parody?

[@AK-fm5ck]

he is batman so fuck u if u hate him..douchebag