Tom Brady has had a more impressive career than Michael Jordan - Acho | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

[@SpeakOnFS1]

Who has had a more impressive career: Tom Brady or Michael Jordan?

[@Iarenzo]

Michael Jordan.

[@notappropriate6731]

MJ. Won 3 in a row twice. Also MJ played way more games (1000+).

[@fwsreal]

MJ. Goat of all sports!

[@andrewgrady8601]

this argument is dumb. there different sports. simple as that.

[@jsphblw]

Jordan was a brilliant talent who did amazing things but Tom Brady has had the more impressive career. There’s a few other guys in basketball with more than 6 NBA titles, there’s yet more with 5 NBA titles. There’s guys with more finals appearances. There’s guys with more points, rebounds, steals and assists than Jordan. Brady is pretty much head and shoulders above his peers in championships, super bowl appearances, he’s got more wins than anyone in the regular as well as post season. Holds every post season record and top three in every regular season QB record.

[@AndyTheGypsy]

these guys are a great pair!

[@jamescauseyiii9816]

I miss whitlock

[@jamesrussell5196]

@@jamescauseyiii9816 naaaaaah

[@dapperdonmilli]

@@jamescauseyiii9816 I'm pretty sure you're not black!

[@rico5527]

That's what she said

[@gregorylagrange]

They can always ruin it by thinking there needs to be a moderator.

[@TheIInWin]

We always compare another athlete to MJ - "He/she is the Michael Jordan of..." Perhaps Brady has had a more impressive career but MJ will always have had more impact! MJ is like Ali status - an ICON for the ages.

[@lamontjamison9848]

Bc he was before Brady 🤣🤣🤣

[@evergreatest8909]

Brady will overtake him. Everyone will be compared to Brady in a decade or two

[@GG89262]

Just cannot compare two greats in different sports.

[@christianhernandez1569]

Simple, which sport is harder to win a championship at? Pretty sure everyone knows football is, which makes Tom Brady’s career more impressive.

[@nicolaswalsh5651]

Why is the volume always so low?

[@ralx225b]

Acho said MJ never scored equiavalent to Brady doing his job. MJ has the highest career scoring average of any player playing 10 seasons or more, Highest Playoff Scoring Average, Most Points scored in a playoff game, and led the league in scoring 10 times, also he did all this while making the first team all defense 9 times!!! I really wish Marcellus WENT IN on the MJ argument on the court!

[@rgood1204]

6 for 6 and played 15 seasons. Those other 9 didn't exist. Jordan was about Jordan.

[@daveisaacson7887]

It is amazing that soccer players never get mentioned. MUCH more difficult to play than basketball. And if you look at stats, Jordan's stats the last three championships were not very good. Rodman was the catalyst for those teams, not Jordan.

[@forivermirin3678]

Wiley says LeBron is the GOAT, says Brady has a better career than LeBron and says Jordan has a better career than Brady. Bruh.

[@d.n.adatniccalexxx]

That’s y his opinions are irrelevant to me now

[@Ninjachickenfingers]

Rock Paper Scissors I guess 😂

[@dociebiemowie915]

To be honest, I'd take Brady's resume over anybody else's. Wins, individual statistics. He's got it covered. He's got 7 chips, he's done nothing but win wherever he was at and as far as stats.. he's not really breaking anyone else's records. He is breaking his own records and putting it that much further out of reach for anyone else. It's comical.

[@Ninjachickenfingers]

@@dociebiemowie915 breaking news: Boston fan takes Brady over other athletes.

[@reboot4357]

everybody reaching for the gawd....but ok thats how you know MJ the goat LMAO.

[@kevinodom2918]

I'm a huge fan of Brady but MJ is the 1 and only.

[@un1005]

Brady by a mile 7 > 6: Rings 10 > 6: Appearances 14 > 7: Conference championships 21 > 15: Longevity 2 > 1: Played and won in Teams/Conferences 43 > 38: Age

[@MichiganHendough]

Losses in Championship Games 3

[@MichiganHendough]

Mvp 5>3 rings 6vs 7 in 7 less years

[@un1005]

@@MichiganHendough lol, the guy could not win without Pippen. Lost every time.

[@MichiganHendough]

@@un1005 and we see Brady can't win without everything perfect MJ never lost period his impact is greater generation after generation first three SB that defense carried him facts lost to nick foles and Eli twice neither in the hall of fame It's Jordan

[@un1005]

@@MichiganHendough MJ could not even make it to the championship 10 times. He lost and then lost again. With Wizards he was a pathetic dump.

[@mixsignal91]

I can't listen to the mainstream media talk about MJ anymore. It's almost like they do what they can to discredit him or refuse to use context around his career. It's kind of crazy.

[@blackalphalion4745]

These Kings the best in Sports Talk PERIOD!✊🏿✊🏿

[@forivermirin3678]

UNC is GOAT

[@blackalphalion4745]

@ Forviver Mirin yea he is ..

[@Klatubarada1979]

Brady had the greater career, and he's not finished yet. MJ is definitely the more iconic.

[@razorramon5937]

😂😂😂😂 MJ is the main reason Bulls won EVERY TIME, Brady has rings the DEFENSE was the main reason he won

[@kev792]

@@razorramon5937Lol wow you're stupid, football is more of a team sport, plus it's much harder to win in the NFL than in the NBA

[@jplaya2023]

@@kev792 which is why you cant compare these 2 kev. Basketball players impact winning more than football players

[@marlonennis5067]

I mean mj isn't just the best basketball player ever, but also maybe these greatest athlete of any sport plus most popular so with that said Tom brady isn't even close. Tom Brady wasnt in his prime for the 1st 3 chips.

[@Klatubarada1979]

@@marlonennis5067 again, Brady is not finished, and to say not close is rediculous. Nobody is close to 10 SBs and he has DOUBLE the playoff wins and the next closest. Jordan can't touch those numbers.

[@jplaya2023]

Acho needs 2 stop smoking rocks MJ was arguably a top 5 player from his rookie season to his 2nd retirement. The audacity of this topic.

[@matthewjohnson5054]

And TB12 was top 2 for more years than Jordan played.

[@jplaya2023]

@@matthewjohnson5054 lol no not at all

[@AJ-pc5ln]

@@matthewjohnson5054 See how Wiley said "Don't want to go into the Gates" 17:29 He was referring to all of those cheating scandals on Tom Bradys name Acho didn't have Shyt to say about that because he knows what's up. SpyGate, DeflateGate, SpyGate 2.0 🕵️‍♂️ will always be apart of Bradys legacy and will taint his legacy when comparing him to an ICON like MJ.

[@kwhitevuu99]

Ain't nobody rocking no Brady retros.

[@kweefsweat5628]

😂😂😂

[@ericgonzalez3423]

Alright we need to stop thinking people buy Js because of MJ. We buy Js because they’re one of the best looking sneakers ever. If anything, Tinker Hatfield deserves the recognition

[@kwhitevuu99]

@@ericgonzalez3423 who is that? And we definitely buy J's cause of Jordan.

[@Wraith3100]

Yeah like a drone. 3 dollar shoes.

[@kwhitevuu99]

@@Wraith3100 Not much choice, Adidas stops making their best shoes, Nike makes 1 shoe at a time and drives up the price, Lebrons are ugly and unstable. Really not much to choose from unless nike starts a line with just they 360 cushioning. Jordan brand this month alone is dropping nothing but 🔥

[@taleywalley]

I’ll always give a basketball player more credit than a qb just off the fact they play offense and defense. They have a greater effect on the overall game than any qb ever could.

[@bboywolf]

Harder to be the greatest QB or greatest basketball player

[@taleywalley]

@@bboywolf Greatest basketball player easily

[@bboywolf]

@@taleywalley false, there's at least 3 greatest basketball players and only 2 greatest qbs ever. everything about football is harder than basketball.

[@geronimopratt7976]

@@bboywolf only your opinion, doesn't make it fact. Your 3 top basketball players of all time ain't the same as mine. I got 3 top QBs of all time and yours ain't mine. Football is only great in North America period....

[@alisaroberts5667]

@@geronimopratt7976 fax some ppl say the greatest qb is Montana some ppl call it Brady some call it peyton

[@prlysis]

Brady plays elite offense. Jordan played elite offense and elite defense

[@forivermirin3678]

Brady played in a sport where defense actually meant defense, from getting decapitated

[@cylvaniaallen4498]

Fact

[@HinzRafael]

Alright Marcellus!! GREAT points and comebacks

[@amkobra]

The NFL is not a global brand like the NBA.

[@fatpatlives1998]

True but the nfl dominates north America more than the NBA

[@chuckembery3874]

@@fatpatlives1998 nfl is king of the us however the NBA and players are kings of the world

[@ian0143]

@@fatpatlives1998 the NBA only became a global brand because of Jordan.

[@fatpatlives1998]

@@ian0143 true but Larry and magic turned the NBA around ....the games use to be pre taped before Larry and magic

[@markbelin9869]

@@fatpatlives1998 he just that bro. Global trumps, one country bru. You sound stupid

[@nevinviner6506]

I dont get why no one remembers Jordan being unable to make the playoffs once he wasn't on the best team with the best coach, still counts as part of his career, pretty sure he was younger than Brady is now on the Buck when he played for the Wizards

[@kingspeech2240]

Two different sports stop that bro Brady cherry picked the bucs among the plethora of talent on both sides of the ball stop it bro lol they reaching for MJ Michael is still the “god” of all sports figures lol

[@DontDrinkthatstuff]

@@kingspeech2240 Nobody was talking about Tampa Bay until he won the chip with em. Sit down.

[@justland2000ify]

Both are iconic....period

[@RandomCitizen014]

Jordan was more dominant and was considered the best for the majority of the time he played, Tom wasn’t. He was always in the fight with Peyton, Rodgers and now Mahomes. MJ has 6 rings, 6 finals mvps to Tom’s 4, 5 regular season MVP to Tom’s 3, 10 scoring titles, 1 defensive player of the year. In less time played he has more accomplishments. Tom is recognized because of his longevity and winning, not because he was actually the best. In basketball MJ is both the GOAT and the BOAT. Brady isn’t that for football. I’d say he’s more comparable to Tim Duncan than MJ.

[@razorramon5937]

Shannon Sharpe Brady never was better than Peyton 😂... Bill Belichick put those teams in position, Brady is great but Peyton, Rodgers and soon to be Mahomes better at being a QB than him. They trying to pump Brady up 😂😂😂

[@steelgunner2]

Football is a way harder sport than basketball, especially as a Quarterback. And Football is 1 and done in the playoffs, none of this series stuff. Way harder to be perfect in the playoffs and not lose. And you can get really hurt in football, not as common in basketball.

[@NolaVenice]

There's no debating that Michael Jordan is the most complete athlete of the century combined with a brilliant mind and an individual drive who has single handedly led his Chicago Bulls to 6 NBA championships. Then let's talk about the off court, out of the gym Jordan who approaches life with the same aggressive acumen that resulted in his billion dollar business ventures. Tom Brady? A good football player who was surrounded by good teammates, good coaches and has a knack for being in the right place at the right time. Love 'em both but there is no comparison.

[@jamieduncan3066]

MJ had Scottie Pippen for all 6 championships. Scottie is arguably one of the top 5 players of that era, and they always had a knockdown 3 shooter: Hodges, Paxton, and Kerr

[@nevinviner6506]

Shame no one brought up how both Brady and Jordan did with different teams and different coaches

[@desmondjohnson4686]

Not even close you talking about MJ who was also one of the greatest defensive players at his position as well brady is just a offensive player mj mvp and defensive player of year and affects the game on both sides of ball

[@matthewjohnson5054]

Yet Jordan only has to motivate 11 guys. Brady 52. Of course Brady didn't play defense but I remember many times Brady kept offense on field to keep manning and others limited time of possession. Keeping him out of rhythm. Kinda like they did the greatest show on turf. So keep trying to build a narrative that doesn't quite ring true

[@AJ-pc5ln]

Exactly he doesn't even play defense you can't compare him to someone like Jordan who dominated on offense and defense.

[@matthewjohnson5054]

@@AJ-pc5ln all yall miss the point in question. More impressive career. The are people with more rings, points ect. Brady has doubled championship appearamces and rings. When he hangs thwm up he will have a good chumk of records too. Just compare them to their peers. There are people that will not say jordan. But after brady accumulated more rings than any NFL franchise. Almost doubling next QB. And he embraced a chance at a ring without the deck stacked in his favor. Jordan folded like a lawn chair when he wasnt gonna have a team that won over 50 games without him and added another hall of famer in rodman. He wenr to a team that didnt make playoffs before he walked in. That woulda been like jordan wimning chip qith wizards.... but that was far from what happened.

[@AJ-pc5ln]

@@matthewjohnson5054 For Tom Brady to be considered better than Michael Jordan he would have to beat MJ Finals record 6 for 6, 6xmvp thats extremely difficult to accomplish. MJ is undefeated in the Finals no one has ever beaten that record Brady didn't go 7 for 7, 7xMVP

[@AJ-pc5ln]

@@matthewjohnson5054 Six NBA Finals appearances, six titles, six MVPs. Whenever anyone questions Michael Jordan’s status as the greatest ever, it is usually this record that ends any and all arguments. Because, in other ways, other players are able to surpass Jordan. Bill Russell finished with more rings, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar finished with more points, and (sacrilege alert!) LeBron James might be a more dangerous all-around player. And, as James seeks his 11th straight Finals appearance, it can be debated that just getting to the Finals is an enormous accomplishment in and of itself. But what cannot be debated is, that each and every time Jordan made the Finals, he not only won, but was named MVP every single time. 6 for 6 6x MVP is nothing to sneeze at, thats extremely difficult to accomplish, and that record may never be Broken. For someone to be considered better than Jordan they would have to go 7 for 7, 7x Finals MVP. Perfection

[@mozdaboz]

MJ played both ends and he excelled on it winning defensive and offensive accolades in his sports while Brady only played as an offense guy... Basketball players are also more skilled and they play more games than football players there shouldn't be any debate on this even if some thinks it's apples and oranges...

[@Jonluis_]

This show is the best! No hate just debate and good humor.

[@vasquezeli19]

Mj is a legend Soccer players in Europe even wear his gear.. even teams promote his brand.. he is global

[@jamesrussell5196]

Just wait dude avocado ice cream is going world wide lol

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@jamesrussell5196 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣

[@icouldhavebeenyourfather8840]

Jordan has a better brand for sure

[@HamzooPineda]

Pliability is the new It thing.

[@andrewzabinski2205]

Their chemistry is wonderful. Who cares if they didn't actually come a winner of the debate.

[@kevinzhao5578]

I love Tom, he is GOAT in football, but MJ is on an other level, when he is playing, not a single player is better then him, at least half of Tom’s career you can argue there is someone better then he is at QB position, Payton, Rogers now Mahomes, plus MJ change the culture of basketball, not just NBA, I don’t think there will be so many Internaitonal players as today without him.

[@edwinbowles2]

Man you spoke facts!

[@yung007jr]

Y’all keep bringing up Jordan’s shoes like that matters😂..They talking about on the court and on the field

[@yung007jr]

@Mr. Nyce Guy that was so wack lol. And they not asking who better,they asking who had the more impressive career

[@robertsnell9404]

@Mr. Nyce Guy Except Brady is a better passer than Jordan was a shooter... Truth is?.. They are the same value to each league in different ways.. Jordan 6-0.. Brady 4th Q game winning drive in all 6 W"s.. Both are the greatest clutch players in their league.. Jordan had Pippen and Jackson... Brady had BB leading the D..

[@anthonyedwards6307]

@Mr. Nyce Guy so much harder for a great player to win a Super Bowl than nba championships

[@built2jzlexus496]

Tom Brady’s degree of difficulty was a lot harder tho. There are a lot of ppl with more NBA titles and appearances than Jordan. Nobody have more of neither than Brady

[@razorramon5937]

Built 2jz Lexus you sound ridiculous, Brady has won many SBs because of defense and a FG kicker... Jordan is the main reason he’s won EVERY SHIP (6 FMVPs)... Brady had playoff runs were he didn’t throw a TD 💀... chill bro

[@jplaya2023]

Brady only impacts 1/3 of the game. Football is the ultimate team sport you cant compare these 2. Jordan did it on both ends tom didnt(cant)

[@built2jzlexus496]

How is what Jordan did so hard when it’s ppl with more titles than he has? Nobody can say they have more SB than Tom

[@TheIInWin]

Brady gets the nod for more consistency over longer years - 6 superbowls going into his 10th at age 43 at a sport where you cannot have 1 bad game is amazing. However, MJ gets the nod when it comes to dominance in an athlete's prime - MJ arguably achieved more than any other team sport athletes achieved in a shorter career span - 13 years (11 full seasons with the Bulls) and won 6 rings - TWO 3 peats and would have won 8 rings in a row if he didn't decide to go play baseball.

[@matthewjohnson5054]

@@jplaya2023 but Brady impacted the defense probably more than any 1 defensive player by keeping people like manning on the sideline keeping defense rested and opposing offense out of sync.

[@ian0143]

Clearly MJ had the more impressive career, the Bulls were trash and he made them relevant, the team was built around him and won titles because of him. Toms career is also highly impressive(to say the least) but when you are 1 out of 53(1 of 24 starters) and the teams success was built around defence and Bills coaching.

[@DontDrinkthatstuff]

"and the teams success was built around defence and Bills coaching." - Early on it was. After 2005 it was all about Brady. Check Belicheap's record without TB12. It ain't pretty. Look at the Pats now, they're mediocre whereas they were elite every single year with Brady. Look at Brady, already won a title with the Bucs & made it look easy.

[@gavynncoca9722]

I know dam Phil Jackson and their d were trash

[@rbueno55]

Football is a more dangerous and hardest sport than basketball...BRADY...period...

[@shawn3638]

Jordan was more impressive and was never accused of cheating like Brady..

[@alexj1176]

🗣🗣🗣

[@MsPamelajones]

Just stop, please. The cheating arguement is old and stale

[@dave607]

Comparing an athlete who plays 82 games to 20 is a no contest. The NFL could expand the season by 6 games and two months and add a third and fourth bye week, shorten preseason to three weeks, training camp to 3 weeks. Players would earn more.

[@maliksamarijones9304]

The only problem Tom Brady has, is that when his "Last Dance" documentary comes out, he's gonna have to explain how Eli Manning ended up beating him twice, following which Eli really stunk up the league 😬

[@bboywolf]

Eli beat 3 other teams to get there... his defense was all time great

[@alexpoda7907]

I mean he did have a last 2 minute lead in both games

[@benderbendingrodriguez8945]

Don't you mean Bill Belichick and his defense?

[@benderbendingrodriguez8945]

Also that run with Eli was insane

[@ebozion32]

Such a apples and oranges question 😂. MJ all day! I don't care what qb it is! They'll will never be a star qb on par with a basketball star imo. QBs don't play defense, sidelined half the game and are protected when playing for the most part. If Brady got on the field and played defense for some plays, then we'll be talking. That's why I think Deion Sanders is the football 🐐. Hats off to Brady for being the greatest at his position though.

[@df6148]

I would say this about basketball. Lebron said he was _just a kid_ from akron. Well that kid was 6 ft 8. KG said a similar line at his HOF speech. Some guys are just built for the game. Being that tall and athletic in the ancient days meant that you were taller than the grass reeds and able to spot lions and tigers. It’s a hunting trait and also a warrior trait that could be used to your advantage if you know what your doing. Brady doesn’t have any of that. The only thing he had was his work ethic and the basic build of a body he was given. I’d say that Brady has done more with less. Yeah you play 2 ways in basketball so imagine how much harder it is to *LEAD* teams in football when you don’t even play on their side of the ball. It means you have their respect. Brady has done this over and over and over again even now with a new team. I honestly put their achievements in a very close proximity. I would say Brady is a very close number 2 due to the fact that Jordan has never ever lost on the grand stage. Also because he 3 peated TWICE one coming off a break from the entire sport itself. Like guys do not realize how *DOMINANT* Jordan was and I believe that pure *DOMINANCE* is what gives Jordan the edge over the two who are neck and neck in *Greatness*

[@ihabunnis262]

MJ did things that no one will ever dream to do

[@calvinvindor1697]

Making a fool of themselves in baseball? xD

[@matthewjohnson5054]

Like?

[@BamaShanks]

Never understood penalizing Brady for losing Superbowls. Like losing in the first round is better.

[@razorramon5937]

BamaShanks it is foolish, people like Skip Bayless convinced people that that is logical 💀😂... the point is to make to the championship and try to win 💯 I give Brady and LeBron credit for that. The difference is basketball shouldn’t be compared to football (way more variables)...

[@MRkriegs]

It's the worst argument in sports lol

[@pmodi1104]

Tom Brady is greater than Jordan. I am from Chicago and I can say that Tom Brady is greater than Jordan

[@RoninBgk]

Sure he is😕😒

[@eddieballgame]

Great discussion, thanks guys.

[@freddykruegar5616]

The refs cheat for both so quit it.

[@scottaznavourian540]

Brady easily had the more impressive career simply cause no one thought he'd even have a career. Jordon came in with high expectations and lived up to them. Brady came in not even expected to make the team and is now the king of his sport.

[@willieanderson8570]

Its Brady. And I'm a die hard Steelers fan.

[@jplaya2023]

Your a die hard football fan

[@looechange7966]

Coming in second just make sure the most memorable loser of the remaining teams! Does mindset that it's okay to lose which was ushered in by giving participation trophies that are just as big as the winners trophies has got to stop

[@daggadagawhd4742]

We are talking about the greatest not the regular players! In that case let’s talk about Jim Kelly

[@penguin6196]

It’s Michael Jordan and that’s no slight to Brady. Jordan plays both sides of the ball.

[@jsphblw]

The question is better career, not who’s the greater player. Brady’s accomplished are unmatched in football. The only category where Jordan still #1 is points per game.

[@penguin6196]

Yea but what Jordan did in the short period of time is unmatched in basket ball. 10 straight scoring titles? Two three peats? Dpoy? Lead the league in steals multiple years. Roty... he accomplished all that in 13 full seasons. He dominated the entire league.

[@anthonyarmstrong1423]

@@penguin6196 I love Brady but I laugh at people who try to downplay what Jordan accomplished lol it can't be disputed no matter how they try😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@calvinvindor1697]

@@penguin6196 And Brady has as much titles as an entire franchise, never mind super bowl appearance and everyone and their grandmama knows NFL Playoffs is infinitely harder than NBA playoffs. There are guys with more rings than Jordan, NO ONE has more rings than Brady.

[@maxwelldewinter]

You're comparing a SB which is the hardest Championship to win in team sport in America to an NBA Championship is stupid! Playoffs in football are one & done vs playoffs in basketball are 28 chances to win a Championship! Brady is the bellwether, gold standard, benchmark & the most accomplished in his sport! Jordan doesn't come close! There are 7 players in NBA history who have more rings than Jordan! Oh by the way Brady ain't done yet!

[@maxwelldewinter]

@UCQrJ6GkpBqo3DFh3D37-LtA Duh! Really - just like the Browns beating the Steelers in the playoffs ?? The better team had a bad day! If they played 3 times the Steelers would most likely win twice! If you're going to upset a Nadal or Federer the chances are greater in best of three sets. Best of 5 is almost impossible! The more a contest lasts the better team or player will win 90% of the time! Got it?

[@matthewjohnson5054]

@@maxwelldewinter who's side u on in the arguement. If Brady played best of 7 in superbowl he would have 9 chips soooooo??? If nba was one n done Jordan wouldn't have 6....do u get it??

[@maxwelldewinter]

@@matthewjohnson5054No he wouldn't ! Jordan lost the first game of the "91 Finals to the Lakers!! Jordan also lost the first game to the Jazz in the '98 Finals ! Yeah I get it! Jordan would have 4 rings!🤔 Go Bucs!

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

Superbowls are harder to win but a qb in football has less impact on the outcome of a win then a star in basketball. Besides keeping the offense on the field for as long as he can, he doesn't have any impact on what the defense does. In his most recent superbowl wins he had to hope his defense were able to make a stop against seattle, that his defense was able to shut down the Falcons in the second half, that they were able to hold the Rams to 3 points.

[@maxwelldewinter]

@@dominiquerobinson8888 Agreed! You need 3 stars to win a Championship! Not in football - you need several. To your point who was responsible for that Defense? No other than Coach William Stephen Belichick! Listen at the end of the day the most "ACCOMPLISHED" professional team sport athlete in the last 50 yrs. in the U.S. is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.! Full stop!

[@willy.b.b3427]

Not saying whiley was wrong. But he didnt make a point to put MJ ahead of brady, not one

[@calvinvindor1697]

Wiley was wrong and a buster, he says Bron is goat, brady had a better career than bron and jordan had a better career than brady. He a straight up buster.

[@chrisstockwell9235]

Jordan had physical ability to achieve greatness coming out of highschool and to add to his greatness college and dream team should be considered but for brady to accomplish what he did with a combine photo like his not even knowing if he'd get a starting gig out of college in my mind should be posterboy for chase ur dreams

[@colebear257]

Fantastic as always fellas

[@gregorylagrange]

Another dumb thing they do is with a sport like football credit so much of a championship to just one person.

[@cronacross2778]

Very hard to compare the 2 sports but i would go with brady because its harder to win a superbowl i feel like.

[@matthewjohnson5054]

Correct. Numbers don't lie

[@razorramon5937]

Imagine Jordan winning a SB without scoring like Tom 👀😂... stop it, I’ve literally watched Tom get carried to the SB by great Pats defenses, ask Teddy Bruschi (Pats Legend)

[@matthewjohnson5054]

@@razorramon5937 and I've seen the bulls carry Jordan in a knicks series from going down 0-3. So his first superbowl he just had to manage game then take them for game winning drive as a rookie..and that same team without Brady had like a 5-11 record year previously. And was 0-2 (with Bledsoe who was quite a qb himself) till Brady took over. 6 championships in leauge harder to win chips in. You leaving out the scrub receivers he's carried to many chips. U wanna rely on 1 year of a 20 year career? Do better kid

[@jamieduncan3066]

Basketball can get physical, but Jordan never stood tall in the paint with a 300 pound monster coming at him with the intent to take his head off his body before throwing a perfect pass to his teammate for a score just before that monster hit him in the mouth with the force of a train, then being driven to the floor with that monster landing on him with the full weight of his body.....then getting back up to do it again 30 seconds later. Gimme a break with “Jordan played defense!” Gtfoh

[@RoninBgk]

He did 👎

[@swagmoney5075]

Im taking tom. Getting to and winning a superbowl is harder than the nba finals. Also shoes made by nike have no effect on the greatness of ones career

[@jsphblw]

@Mr. Nyce Guy - You need to read the question again. It’s who’s had the greater career, not who was better. None of what you listed matter for that questions. It’s just about the final analysis. You can’t compare the two sports but you can compare their accomplishments in their respective sports. There’s nobody even close to Brady in accomplishments in football. There’s other guys with more rings, more finals appearances and more personal records than Jordan. Lastly, I guess you didn’t watch Jordan play. He got all the calls. If he picked up 3 quick fouls, the refs wouldn’t call one on him the rest of the game.

[@jplaya2023]

What about the player who impacts the game on both offense and defense

[@Statute387]

Brady can’t touch Jordan’s impact on the NBA. #23! Jordan all over the world!

[@Jake-mx7fi]

Brady was born in a system with the greatest coach of all time and a great team Jordan was born in a horrible franchise at the time and led them 6 championships and never lost in one of em

[@Dontgotomyyoutube]

Lost like 8 first rounders first though lol

[@salvatoresultana4058]

@@Dontgotomyyoutube Man lost in the first round like 3 times bruh.

[@VIi726]

You for real? Lol. MJ has the goat coach as well, in an offense that won like 11 chips and had 3 top 50 players of all time. Don’t act like Jordan wasn’t on the patriots of basketball

[@christophergraves3113]

Please tell me what was the patriots before and that goat coach also

[@coollibra3644]

@@VIi726 phil was a nobody before MJ

[@widowsson8192]

Mj was the single most famous person on planet earth in the 90s.

[@tharealg.2728]

It’s not that you just get it, it’s how you get it. Jordan was a more exciting player to watch and could shoot in more spectacular ways than Brady could throw. If Brady had Mahommes or Rodgers skill set, then he would be in conversation with Jordan..... Lebron could never be in conversation with Jordan cause Jordan had more dynamic moves as well as titles....

[@gavynncoca9722]

One quit, one did not, one does not play a stupid series, it’s do or die every game, one played like mvp for longer than the other. One was washed up before 40 one wasn’t. One has 7 and plays the hardest position in sports, and so TB is The Goat of Goats!

[@chiecheung25]

Micheal won 6 out of 15 seasons. Topscorer for 10 seasons. Brady won 6 out of how many seasons? How many times did brady led the leaugue in yards, passing TD. Im not even talking about mj being one of the best defenders EVER

[@jamesmorton5017]

Tom has had a greater career than any athlete that comes to mind. He is not the greatest QB. He is the greatest winner in sports. Championships and longevity tell the tale.

[@mauricemoultrie7362]

Not Michael Phelps and Bill Russell

[@jamesnelson5618]

@@mauricemoultrie7362 or Yogi Berra.

[@mauricemoultrie7362]

@@jamesnelson5618 the referencing cartoons ay?

[@mauricemoultrie7362]

Tom Brady is the greatest QB, there is no debate . End of discussion James Morton Rick Morty

[@jamesnelson5618]

@@mauricemoultrie7362 he's a new York Yankees player that win 10 rings.

[@ShaunHensley]

Hard call to make but legit topic of convo

[@widowsson8192]

6 championships, 10 times scoring champ, 5 mvps, 6 finals mvps, dpoy, 1st team all defense 9 times in 13 years. I probably missed some things. Please. Quite!

[@nael2770]

Tom has a more impressive career because he has more Superbowl runs and also on playoffs, he played basically all game 7's from a wild card to the superbowl. Imagine the pressure of playing all game 7's for more than 10 years.. as he has gone to the playoffs more than 10 years..

[@goldentime1418]

Jordan more iconic, but I'm more impressed by Brady. We are more likely to see another Jordan than to see another Brady. Brady got as many rings as any franchise in his sport, and will have more rings than any nfl team if he wins this Sunday. .. that's super impressive

[@semionjohnson1351]

We will never see another Jordon don't lie to yourself

[@robg8203]

At least we can say that these two are the undisputed GOAT’s in their respective sports. But I gotta give the edge to MJ because of much of what Wiley stated and he was the best player on the court. Tom Brady wasn’t and isn’t always the player on the field. Like this Super Bowl, Mahomes is the better player, at this moment, in this game. When the Patriots played the greatest show on turf(the 2001-02 Rams), Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner were the better players in that year. But Tom did play better than Kurt in that Super Bowl, which is why they won.

[@jamesnelson5618]

Yeah That Because He Won 14 Win and Got to the Super Bowl and Mahones will still be a better player very Tite with Aaron Rodgers when they play each other in The State Farm Bowl at Arizona because it one of the Most favorite grand stage of American game that everyone is dying of wanting to see so bad and It will be Epic.

[@sethchandler4170]

The answer is Tom Brady. The question is who has had the more impressive career? Tom Brady because it is significantly harder to dominate in the NFL. 1 super bowl is worth more than a NBA championship. Tom Bradys playoff records double up on his next closest competition. The NFL is significantly harder than the NBA. There are a lot more moving parts. The physicality and inclement weather alone make it more difficult. I love MJ but he played in a climate controlled arena where weather was a non factor, with significantly less physicality, working with much smaller rosters and a chasm of difference between strategy.

[@cylvaniaallen4498]

Football play 14 games. NBA plays 82. NBA plays offense and defense. 😂😂 Football you have one job most of the time.

[@iradhill81]

I will never miss whitlock again

[@alexreyes5959]

Tom Brady Easy, More success,

[@OneLuv777]

Marcellus argument is funny about the number of players that don’t make it to the NBA when the topic is predicated upon the actual players that’s in the league. That’s like saying you can’t say your a great driver for not having an accident cause there’s millions of drivers, then he say wait that doesn’t count cause there’s multiple millions of people that don’t have a car and aren’t driving and ride buses and trains lol Point goes to Acho

[@NwoFresh]

Jordan he has the most trophies (22) in nba history and the 2nd closes is 17

[@kantenpayne7011]

Brady has more trophies by himself than any NFL team *drops 🎤

[@natetete1379]

Jordan played in the '80s and 90s and still has not been surpassed by teams that shoot 50 3 pointers a game. It's just ridiculous. Jordan had 2 hall of fame careers Brady has had 3 and is going for 4. Can we say equal. They have had equally great careers.

[@JXL21]

Jordan's peak is higher, Bradys is longer successful. But Brady needed that 3peat like Dallas did to reach the same peaks. Remember Dallas is still living off that as no1 Franchise in the league for 30yrs! That's the Jordan peak , Twice. Also Patriots failing on that perfect season in the biggest game, that's not good

[@jsphblw]

Dallas didn’t 3peat and Brady did that exact same thing as Dallas (3 out of 4) in the 2001-2004 run. By the way, the question is who had the better career. It’s easily Brady. Nobody’s done anything close to what he’s done in football. There’s guys with more championships than Jordan.

[@matthewjohnson5054]

Bad analogy. Brady has more rings than any NFL franchise. Jordan has a third as many as 2 NBA franchises. Had almost double next best QB in chips. Doubled conference championships. and pretty sure will finish 1 in TDs and yards. NBA marketed their business on names and faces. NFL doesnt. That means analyst, cameras, referees all get their check from those people. So it made the little kid in u fondest moment leave logic in ur toybox. Jordan was asked who better kobe or bron.. he said 5 is better than 3. 7 is better than 6 also done in a sport that does not have another dynasty post salary cap.

[@alexpoda7907]

The NFL is designed to negate people from doing what Tom Brady has done. Withe the one game elimination playoffs, EVERYTHING post season wise is so much more impressive in football. Brady has the LeBron playoff stats with the Jordan playoff success.

[@northernassassin6056]

I'd absolutely rather win 7, I can't believe this was brought up. Seven is better than six.

[@jeffduncan7381]

Brady’s accomplishments are RARER for his sport.. Jordan doesn’t have the most titles.. most points.. etc.. Jordan went to 6 finals in 15 seasons.. Brady been to 10 SBs in 20 seasons.. but the answer is Jordan taking into consideration cultural impact, no one in sports is even close..

[@moltenfiya]

Dayuum, Ratings down? Serious subject to contemplate. Not. Jordan scored all his points, Tommy has had a lot of help...wink,wink!

[@josephberry4348]

When coming in second place a win nobody remembers that. Who came in second place don’t believe this.

[@chrisw.robertson5478]

Michael Jordan never cheated

[@jamesnelson5618]

Neither does Wayne Gretzky but Even Baseball Got so many Cheating team in the League all Over like The Houston Astros.

[@MrSmithgobucs]

Watch Tom Start Making Shoes

[@matthewjohnson5054]

This convo isn't even close. Brady has more rings than every NFL franchise except Steelers and they r tied.

[@razorramon5937]

Matthew Johnson 👀😂😂😂 delusional

[@matthewjohnson5054]

@@razorramon5937 I live in chicagoland area. Marketing of the NBA made yall believe he was god....somehow he just gets credited for 2 titles for quitting on his team (mind you they made it to conference finals without him while TB12s team didn't make playoffs without him).... delusional

[@lockyer0061]

Dun think shoes and money should go into a sporting careers legacy.

[@tika3721]

This is the first time I ever agreed with Marcellus. But your Clippers still lost by 51

[@randolphmichel]

Preach

[@WumbMasta]

The biggest and most obvious argument that everybody ignores: the NFL has a one and done playoff format. The NBA does not. If there was somehow a 7 game series in the NFL playoffs, the patriots would've won 9+ superbowls. It is so ridiculously hard to make the super bowl because of this and other rules set in place to keep parity in the NFL.

[@jamieduncan3066]

No. The Rams certainly would’ve have won the next 4 games in a row in 2001

[@nandog2597]

Brady can’t play defense so Jordan

[@williamgirard2412]

There are more players in the NFL but there are also more positions. You have center, guard, tackle, corner, safety, QB, WR, EDGE, D tackle, RB, TE, LB. Wow! If we divide, it is harder to be All NBA than All-Pro. There are 10 All-NBA slots. 1 for every 75. There are 22, about the same about 1 for every 75. But there are 66 total NFL and only 30 total NBA, or am I wrong?

[@MRkriegs]

What about regular season MVPs? Super bowl MVPs? What about taking over a game? Way harder in the nfl.

[@williamgirard2412]

@@MRkriegs not if you are a QB. But that isnt the end all be all, and if it is, you still lose the argument. Because Brady doesn't even reach Jordan's ankles in that argument. It isn't doubly difficult. And even if it were doubly difficult, he still doesn't stack up.

[@williamgirard2412]

@@MRkriegs and how many games did Brady take over? As you say? Very few if any. He didn't play defense. And the Pats almost always suffocated opposing offenses. Brady didn't even have to take over games. He had his moments. But taking over a game? He got his kicker into FG range. He scored enough points to beat offensively stymied offenses. That isn't taking over a game. Jordan did take over games on both sides of the court. He would shut down the best offensive player and still drop 50 on you. You are right about it being more difficult to take over a game in the NFL. That is why few RBs or WRs or LBs have ever won MVP. Take over is what Von Miller did for the Broncos. I don't even think Mabomes took over the last SB. And I am a Chiefs fan. But he didn't take over the game. He played well enough to win. And even then his MVP is arguable.

[@MRkriegs]

@@williamgirard2412 very few if any?!?! LOL ok ima stop commenting.

[@bryanjones4444]

Jordan was far and away the best player in the league and he was one of 5 players on the floor. Brady is one of 11 who play 45% of the game. Brady was not even the main reason for the championships that his team won. It was the coach and the 17 top 10 defenses.

[@PhilPeeVa]

LeBron has nothing to do with this conversation but clearly one of these guys is bought by Klutch sports

[@blackwind6317]

Uhmm because Lebron was use last week as a comparison to Brady.

[@argeshagan7407]

These dudes actin like they aint seen the last dance. c'mon man how u gonna compare MJ to TB, its not fair. MJ is on a another level. I just tried to get the new jordan 1 last saturday and sold out in minutes.

[@9doggie12]

Brady is on a complete different level than Jordan. The reason Tom Brady is on a super bowl in a physical sport at 43 and Jordan could not make the playoffs at 39 is because Brady is a different beast

[@beandip9824]

What does you not being able to get the new Jordans have anything to do with this conversation? Last time i checked selling out shoes dont make you a better athlete or have a better career

[@anthonyarmstrong1423]

@@9doggie12 the reason Brady still has his noodle is because you're not allowed to smack this dude let's be real here. Brady hasn't taken a legit hit since Ray Lewis' Ravens he wouldn't have seen 40 let alone 43 and I'm a lifetime fan but truth is truth.

[@anthonyarmstrong1423]

If you compare legacy/careers it's Jordan. But why not compare Brady(6) to bill Russell (11)

[@9doggie12]

@@anthonyarmstrong1423 everything you just said is complete nonsense for two reasons. Brady grew up in the football eras before you couldn’t hit people in the head and was still winning Super Bowls second the same would apply to QB like Brees manning rivers Eli and Ben who all played later than Brady and nowhere near the conditioning or longevity. There is also this stat called sacks and QB hits Brady is middle of the pack just for reference

[@widowsson8192]

Haters. The only reason they say Brady is because they believe LBJ is better than MJ. So to say MJ, is to say that LBJ is better than Brady. Mj was the single most famous person on planet earth during his peak. So please, shhhhhh....

[@incubus4132]

Acho be like Brady..... Nevermind that the Patriots & Brady himself were caught cheating

[@iaspireothers]

Twice!!!!

[@justing1789]

I mean i wouldnt be surprised if the only difference between the two in that aspect was only brady ever got caught. Plus from the MJ Doc. It sounds like Jordan wasnt that great of a teammate

[@Himmelstor-AS]

What Jordan did is biased because not every person can be 6"6 but everyone can play football which makes the NFL more competitive year in and out.

[@threezysworld8089]

Brady easily. Reasoning? You can't compare accolades in NFL 'one-to-one' to accolades in the NBA. In the NBA one player can change everything, one player can completely dominate. Not so much so in the NFL. The difference between NFL and NBA in this case is that the QB is the most important position (to his team) in all of sports. So that makes Brady's championships that much more special. Jordan has six rings, that isn't even the most in NBA history. Brady on the other hand is head and shoulders above the next guy. You can't say "oh well Jordan has more MVP's" without looking at the other MVP's, and how dispersed they are. In the NBA way more guys have multiple rings and multiple MVP's than in the NFL. It goes back to how much of in impact one player can make in the NBA. There is ZERO GOAT argument in the NFL anymore, there still are some in the NBA though- that should tell you what you need to know.

[@looechange7966]

Ocho is wrong. Tom Brady is number 2 in yards number 2 and touchdowns did Drew Brees

[@looechange7966]

So let me be clear on this. It's really not even close. First two Super Bowls Tom Brady was a game manager! Lackluster Super Bowls therefore he won Super Bowl MVPs! The last two Super Bowls that Tom Brady played in + won he was not the Super Bowl MVP... Every time Jordan showed up he was the best player on the floor! Jordan dominated and 8 year Span in which he won six years of 8... Which happens to be the six years that he completed seasons! Michael Jordan is the last athlete to be the Undisputed goat for a better part of his career! Michael Jordan is a cultural icon... So much so that LeBron James fans will hate on Michael Jordan and try to tear down his legacy while wearing his shoes! Michael Jordan hasn't played in 20 years and is still a cultural icon and phenomenon! Even in the years that he did not win Michael Jordan was dominant to his respective game! Michael Jordan was never beaten on the final stage and Tom Brady was meeting on three separate occasions by inferior competition being Eli Manning twice and Nick Foles! Like I said not even close