Wiley & Acho react to the Texans firing head coach David Culley I NFL I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

[@SpeakOnFS1]

Listen to Out of Character: sprtspod.fox/OOC

[@codywilliams102]

Thank God these brothers have this platform I’m so proud of these brother over all black analysts

[@ktcarl]

@@codywilliams102 That's the reason Culley was fired...because he was black. Or was it because he was black that he was hired? WTF does race have to do with anything?

[@codywilliams102]

Say lil bro. Im a grown man I’m not doing the back and forth especially about race.

[@codywilliams102]

I said what I said.

[@2centswanted113]

They definitely didn't hire David Culley because if Deshaun because he didn't want Cully and they didn't include him in the hiring process which is what they promised him. So its the other

[@cmj8304]

As a Texans fan, Culley just got the 💩 end of a bad situation from the jump… personally I think he did as good as he could given the circumstances… good luck to him

[@annyghhjhh5202]

I'll take the 22 mill

[@DarkDesperado25]

4 wins was a miracle, least he's getting a fat paycheck.

[@jerrywilliams3373]

They played that dude

[@greg.d.c]

It wouldn't surprise me if the Texans go after one of the other recently fired coaches, but they had to clear the space to get who they want.

[@Eyesaiah777]

Agreed brotha. Eye liked him as a HC for us. He admitted that it was different than the previous roles he's had for the successful organizations he's coached for over the past decades. He just needed another season or two under his belt to become *at least* a Kyle Shanahan caliber HC. 🤦🏽‍♂️💯

[@GG89262]

What were Texans expectations. He was without his franchise QB. He should have been given more time so you can truly evaluate whether he is good coach or not.

[@skillethead15]

That’s the thing. The Texans never wanted him to start with so they never gave him a chance. When Deshawn Watson decided to hold out they decided then to move on from Culley.

[@augustinparedez971]

He turned down a penalty to accept 4th down at mid field and punted. He lost his job right then and there. He made at least 10 mistakes just like that through the season, not to mention they cut Cunningham instead of trading him for at least a 5th or 6th rounder just to prove a point. He benched Reid just to prove a point ensuring he would not resign if Culley came back. He ended up being worse than BOB because he wanted a certain "culture". Preacherby need to kick rocks next.

[@choiyatlam2552]

@@augustinparedez971 How many time guys like Brandon Staley and Mike McCarthy messed up? To be honest, no self-respecting head coach was willing to step into this garbage field of a football team, yet he did. He had nothing to work with at the beginning, yet he lead this team to fight, beating the Chargers and almost beating the No.1 seed of AFC twice. Even if he played conservatively or do not have the ability to lead them to a super bowl, you think Houston can miraculously compete next year? I don't think they can even with Watson back. Yet, they fired the only coach willing to rebuild the team from ruins, motivate his team to fight on even with the complete lack of talent, lead his team to an ugly yet respectable 4-13 record. Everybody praised Dan Campbell for what he did in Detroit but why there is nobody giving the same praise to Culley?

[@tpeery23]

@@choiyatlam2552 Well said brotha, well said👍

[@joejones8454]

Never was his franchise QB man came at a time when the Quarterback wanted nothing to do with the organization

[@mikediao15]

I watched most of the Texans games.... they were very competitive unlike the Giants or the jets. Culley did a great job navigating through the chaos

[@jabarirawlins2602]

Facts 💯they reminded me of the Lions tbh

[@richiebee1984]

WELL MY GIANTS AND JETS ARE STRUGGLING BECAUSE THE GIANTS NEED TO FIND THE NEXT ELI MANNING AND FORTIFY THEIR DEFENSE AND THE JETS NEED TO FIND THE NEXT CHAD PENNINGTON!!

[@iwkaoy8758]

Texans was blown out inn isle most isle there games

[@aaronfarley14]

David Culley took on such a difficult job,put his balls on the line and I don’t know how anyone could’ve expected from more from him and the Texans this season???🏈🏈🏈

[@blkbluhu368]

Truth. Culley did a great job. I wasn’t in favor of the hiring but I was really impressed with that team. The team played their a** off this season.

[@aaronfarley14]

@@blkbluhu368 And he conducted himself in the best possible way and was an adult,not like what went on at the Giants!!! That was a train 🚂 wreck!!!

[@sgcraig2430]

Cell Deshaun didn’t want just any black head coach he wanted Eric Bienemy

[@RawwRex]

Exactly, they pulled a “well at least he’s black” and just brought in anybody

[@tswaggcodes5]

That’s why you gotta catch them sometimes. They’re just using “grammatical gymnastics”. Everyone won’t catch that

[@TrevStoker]

They clearly thought they were hiring Bienemy...you know we all look alike to them.. 😒✌🏽

[@gaddafigiraffi7805]

Brian Flores is who he likes the most

[@renderuntocaesarwhatiscaes2300]

@sboudreaux27 I hope so dude deserves that dam job KC doesn’t have the same success without that guy.

[@truuee9016]

Maybe they think they can get a coach that will make Watson stay. Only thing that makes sense. Or they think Watson is leaving either way, so cut the coach for no real reason. Watson wanted an overqualified coach that wasn't getting an opportunity in Bienemy, he didn't want a random "black" coach.

[@LiteDnBFnatic]

Jags, Texans, Jets, Giants, Miami and Bears fans continue to suffer for no reason. This season was a complete flustercuck

[@Eyesaiah777]

I'm taking that. "FlusterCuck" 👌🏽😆

[@skillethead15]

Add the Lions to that list

[@Straightedgex34]

Jets & Lions Head Coaches are safe

[@navarthigpen3284]

Browns

[@IsMoKeDgRaPeS]

Vikings

[@Mrqq-jx2ox]

This is an extremely underrated segment it should be blowing up.

[@SmithPrime1]

Deshaun didn’t want cullet though, he specifically said who he wanted, The OC from KC

[@BruceWayne-rb1mb]

Actually DeShaun wanted those 20+ massage parlors

[@JONESIE214]

Fax

[@Jslowbro]

Thank you. He had been said he wanted EB. They threw in culley and that's it.... like no input no nun for deshaun.... smh

[@martinmcintosh5505]

Houston GM and owner figure all black people look alike and Deshaun would not notice the difference.

[@macanthony1982]

@@martinmcintosh5505 🤣🤣

[@BASHUMUPROB]

Great segment! 2 very well educated men hit this topic from all levels and break it down greatly.

[@amareharris2797]

False

[@jicadi181]

Putting the failure of the entire NFL regarding their hiring practices on the back of one player is terrible analysis. This is about the organization, the NFL and discriminatory practices. Not what Watson wanted. Culley was used. F@#$ Houston.

[@amareharris2797]

@@jicadi181 wiley is a tap dancer

[@coachcorey9574]

Man that crazy you said that lie

[@tpeery23]

@@jicadi181 That's the real truth!

[@TheNightOwl11683]

Culley isn't going to complain much simply because: 1. He got head coaching experience that he can use in his career 2. He's getting $22M for one year of work

[@Linz.Edward]

Only 2 years were guaranteed

[@TheNightOwl11683]

@@Linz.Edward Which he's getting over the next two years. They still owe him $17M

[@seyvonmouzon8799]

Hes 66 years old .

[@scottgreen2042]

@@TheNightOwl11683 they owe him for one more year. that's all. They knew last year they were only going to keep him for one to two years.

[@TheNightOwl11683]

@@seyvonmouzon8799 Romeo Crennel was coaching into his 70s. He's still with the Texans in a senior advisory role.

[@nicksalis3017]

If Watson wasn't going to play after they hired Culley no way he was making it past 1 season even with winning season

[@davecurry3153]

Black coaches in the NFL don’t get time

[@tacotacotington3638]

@@davecurry3153 Nobody cares about race, they care about success. Not one billionaire owner would choose to have a team with a white coach with a losing record over a black coach with a winning record.

[@EdgarGomez-nx2dr]

@@davecurry3153 Did you just not watch this debate? It has nothing to do with race lol

[@MaarSRT]

I really would love to know what the Texans management legitimately expected from David Culley & this team. They have one of the worst rosters in the league and still fought every Sunday. They’re just gonna hire and new head coach and probably go 4-13 again next season and then what would the excuse be?

[@TheNightOwl11683]

I think they expected him to get through this year so they could wait until the next cycle of coaching searches came around. It was pretty clear last year that any available HC prospects did not want the Texans job. Culley was a fall guy that got paid $22m just to get himself some experience.

[@gradybrown3362]

There going hire a white Privilege coach and give him 5 yrs to turn things around

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!

[@kazimcmorris6125]

Whatever excuses make the new white coach look good

[@tpeery23]

@@TheNightOwl11683 He only made 8 million bro

[@Bodhi594]

This went off the rails very quickly once it was realized why Culley was hired in the first place.

[@marlinmalcolm4451]

It was a stunt hiring Culley.

[@Forgemno]

Culley still get all 17 million over the next 2 years....token cost money

[@MR.ROBOTVOLTRON]

As a Texan fan I can accept that. I actually respect Caserio even more if he has the sack to come to the same plan as we all think it is.

[@sjchac]

@@MR.ROBOTVOLTRON This dude is dope. All the local media is salty as fck because he won't tell them sh!t. Zero leaks

[@Joja19]

The only excuse I can see that would make sense is, they think they have a chance at an upgrade at HC ( Flores, Harbaugh,Leftwich,Daboll...etc).

[@DariusClarkWallace]

They would be FOOLS to want that job. Worst coaching job in the league by FAR

[@derricklacy8829]

@@DariusClarkWallace The Browns, Detroit, Jets and Jacksonville got something to say about that spot lol

[@DariusClarkWallace]

@@derricklacy8829 Browns have a top 7 roster in the league, Jacksonville has Trevor Lawrence and a ton of cap space, Jets are in NY with a ton of cap space, and Lions have 13 million more in cap space than the Texans and at least know who their QB is lol.

[@demond7l3]

@@DariusClarkWallace Jags by far, they have a clown for an owner, a bust 1st overall pick QB and its the jags 🤣🤣

[@danielburdisso1483]

@@demond7l3 how is he a bust?

[@acephas3]

They were ALWAYS going to do that, as if ANYONE who watches football actually blames Culley instead of the leadership and the personnel.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly! We knew this from the jump.

[@cannonthedeveloper2255]

Yep, he threw himself in the fire on that one. Business is Business just like any job. We have all been dealt a bad deck of cards. Sometimes you just have to pass on an opportunity like that.

[@metalgeartrusty]

@@cannonthedeveloper2255 tbh he got headcoaching experience and some money, im going to assume he has a genuine love for football, so maybe it was worth him taking this job, even if he could tell by the contract it wasnt long-term

[@tacotacotington3638]

Exactly. It’s either him or the GM, and the GM gets the power to fire the head coach, so its very obvious what the GM is going to choose to do to save their own job.

[@Nyabennah]

@@cannonthedeveloper2255 For 22 million......there was definitely a discussion on how this would go.

[@4TFInfamous]

Another great topic handled by the best on TV to me facts 👏

[@DennisKing7979]

Marcellues left some things out...this goes back to the hiring the GM..who Deshaun didnt want. Also some other key factors that are being left out. He wanted Eric Beinnamy... They hired Colley at the end to try and make up for the misses

[@CUTSUMIN78]

Thank you…. He didn’t say he he wanted a black coach he said he wanted Eric Beinnamy….

[@speen8862]

I’m all for giving beinnamy a chance at head coach and all but people need to remember he’s the offensive coordinator with Mahomes at qb, kelce, and hill. Is it really beinnamy or do you just have exceptional talent. Because the first two years Mahomes was in the league he lit it up like crazy. But remind me what made him great and what all hc said about Mahomes. He’s great for the play that was never called. He was great at extending the play and making some other play happen that wasn’t even called. Just sayin

[@amareharris2797]

Marcellus is a mascot thats why

[@bernet10j]

@@speen8862 So we can say that about every offensive coordinator that got a head coaching job or defensive coordinator. To even to get considered for a head coach. You have to have good players to run your offense or defense. Look at all of the head coaches that got jobs. They come from winning teams. Probably had some dam good players on that team running their offense or defense. Let's look at Dan Quinn. Got fired from Atlanta. Why did not have very good defensive players, so his scheme didn't work. Well, he gets to Dallas. Now he is a genius. Why? Look at the players that Dallas has on defense. So, to say it's the players. That's a dumb argument. It's always the players. You just take chances on coaches that happen to be running or calling the plays at that time. You don't see them hiring OC's or DC's off of losing teams.

[@samadams329]

Any black coach that would think about going there needs to have their head checked

[@brizzoke]

Culley has been coaching for a minute. He was on Andy Reid’s staff as WR coach in the early 2000s.

[@4dog1977]

“KINDLING” IS WHAT BLACK FOLKS WHO HAVE WORKED IN THE CORPORATE ENVIRONMENT CALL IT. THAT YOU ARE PUT INTO A POSITION TO KEEP IT HOT, FOR THE NEXT PERSON IT COME ALONG, THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOU. WE ALL HAVE SEEN IT OR EXPERIENCED IT. KNOWING THE HISTORY OF THE ORGANIZATION, WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

[@ryandennis8366]

Well ur take is wrong rn cuz reports coming out that Texans are going for jerod Mayo as HC, who is black….

[@aaronhugz4277]

@@ryandennis8366 his take isn't wrong as a whole, that's the history but hopefully you're right in regard to the upcoming black hire.

[@ryandennis8366]

@@aaronhugz4277 lmao we ain’t talking bout history we talking bout today day and age lmao, also lmao there plenty of black coaches in the league at different positions just not as a head coach like that lmao

[@aaronhugz4277]

@@ryandennis8366 isn't that the issue??? 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@ryandennis8366]

@@aaronhugz4277 lmao it shouldn’t be, that league is helping out hundredths of young black kids be millionaires having generational wealth having majority of the league being black but y’all worried about the head coaching jobs not being majority black, that’s corny and it make it obvious y’all reaching for something to be a victim, not only black young kids becoming football players but there are ALOT of black coaches outside of head coaches who is making ALOT of money , shows ignorance and greed

[@martinmcintosh5505]

Remember two things can be true. David Culley was set up to fail. However he was never going to get a head coaching job. He was in the league for 40+ years, and never sniffed a head coaching job. I am actually happy for him. If you look from Culley perspective he actually won this situation. Nobody blames him in anyway, which is fair. He got a 17 million dollar golden parachute for retirement. This situation is crazy. Houston as an organization sucks. Its starts with ownership then management. But i am glad he got his gold parachute if he chooses to ride out into the sunset

[@EdgarGomez-nx2dr]

Shoot I would of taken that job if I knew I was going to get fired after 1 year but still get 17M 😂

[@Whoa_dummy]

Marcellus has it wrong. Watson didn’t want a black coach. He wanted 1 black coach and that was Bienemy. They did want to hire him and hoped that hiring Culley would make up for it because they had a good interaction at the pro bowl one year. They never wanted Culley. They knew they were gonna fire him the minute they hired him.

[@soda8736]

Why didn't they hire Bienimy? If they were just going to hire a black coach

[@morrays1996]

Deshaun didn’t want Culley, he wanted the chiefs offensive coordinator Whiley, they hired Culley because it was what the advisor who used to work for the patriots wanted. I remember the stories all off season last year. He completely mischaracterized the situation. In fact Watson demanded a trade after they hired Culley, come on bruh….

[@kick-face3558]

Big facts . These guys didn’t do their research

[@tonylyons1692]

Facts and they lost on those facts

[@jeremyrobinson2978]

Acho was cooking in his opening arguments 🔥🔥🔥🤫

[@Raven.Bloodrot]

So instead of simply letting deshaun go cause he ain't gonna play for you and you're still paying him you let go of a coach who did what he could with what was given to him. Honestly he did better then I expected him to.

[@EdgarGomez-nx2dr]

Because they’re using Deshaun as leverage. They can still get picks or a very good trade for Deshaun. You can’t trade coaches back they just went ahead and fired him. Texans didn’t want him in the first place, they just wanted to satisfy Deshaun.

[@Raven.Bloodrot]

@@EdgarGomez-nx2dr except they had a whole season to trade him and nobody wanted to trade for him for what they were asking.

[@geraldcolvin8668]

Watson to Pittsburgh…if I was Pittsburgh I’d give away 3 first rounds and 2 second round picks.. I’d be all in on deshaun

[@tpeery23]

@@geraldcolvin8668 I think Broncos should be all in on Watson.

[@barryfeinstein1212]

Culley turned lemons into lemonade. Everyone thought they were going 0-17.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

With the third string quarterback!!! Culley should get an award for that alone.

[@cjroberts7022]

right. he coached up a crapy roster

[@jumocat]

Love the analysis by Wiley and Acho...you 2 guys make this show great

[@jeremiahseavey5959]

You guys are fighting with one more duo for the top spot on TV, it can go either way every week, you guys are always on your A game and we thank you for making great content. You guys are the pinnacle of your genre. Thanks for giving me spring to watch when football won't do it for me no more... I'm a Ravens fan 😆 🤣

[@kazimcmorris6125]

"Everywhere you go, there you are" Soul talk

[@abdulmah72]

Excellent breakdown gentleman. Thank you

[@jabarimccoy8764]

As a Texans fan and someone that lives in Houston and is close to the madness going on here with the team I have to say that Wiley is wrong on his take. I know you all have researchers but they may have fed you some misguided info

[@jdduval14]

He should not have fired, i thought he did a wonderful job with he had to work with. I also feel they set DeShawn Watson up.

[@soda8736]

Please.. not this again

[@terryjones662]

Tell me what the best coach ever could have done with that roster? Maybe won two more games? Should have never hired him if that was the case... they set him up to fail...

[@KNByam]

At most Belichick would've gotten 1 more win out of that team on football knowledge alone. No other coach would've gotten more done.

[@adgee5401]

Marcellus Wiley loves toeing the line of bootlicking. Trying to throw blame at D Wat is weak no matter how you tried to package it.

[@promotechs2540]

Yeah he’s sounds dumb. If Watson was available he would make sense but he can’t play for any team right now. So how is this mostly his fault when the GM chose to use Cully as a scapegoat

[@thatkingbk]

Great perspective by Marcellus.

[@Donth8onme2]

"I wouldn't have hired him" ... "I'm mad they fired him" in the same segment. . . Yall Wilding.

[@saxking101]

Not really. The initial reaction was being upset about the firing due to what resources he had to work with. But then when they assessed the reasoning for the hiring, it wasn’t based on his coaching ability but because they thought it would make Watson happy. Outside of making Watson happy the Texans wouldn’t have hired him so that means it wasn’t a quality hiring in the first place.

[@juliangarcia8090]

Nice to see Acho having a realization that equity is disingenuous.

[@ronniepratt8710]

The coach that should get fired is that disaster in San Diego. Going to waste at least 2 to 3 more years of Herbert's career with that coach at the helm.

[@showapower3991]

Culley is better off with a payout and not working for Texans, life is all good y’all

[@carlbeatty3386]

22 million I'd say bye Felicia too

[@AveryB.0]

This is like that saying goes... "gotta do twice as good to get half as much". Culley did a good job with tough circumstances but didn't do AMAZING therefore he is gone. Same thing with Brian Flores in Miami. Very small margin for error for black coaches in the league.

[@goosefromHTX]

No longer a Texans fan. This the only coach we ever had that I liked.

[@37wester]

We got room on the Cowboys Bandwagon bro

[@demond7l3]

Good riddance, bye Felicia🤣🤣

[@shamirgrant]

@@37wester that's a good one 😂

[@soda8736]

Obrien got yalll to the playoffs..lol. and the media made yall turn against him lol

[@Inspirational68]

This segment was well discussed; this is a great example of how two intelligent adults can disagree and still have a productive discussion. That being said, I believe that focusing on the skin color of the coach as a leading point of contention is very short sighted ( Wiley pointed this out) and does not allow the listener to get full context. The NFL as an organization employs players at a minimum salary level of 660k (per google) and 78 percent of them are black. The Texans were most successful during the tenure of Rick Smith as GM and took their drop to the cellar when he had to leave. Ozzie Newsome was a tremendous GM in Baltimore for a long time. We need to use these forums to allow all listeners to benefit from them and not alienate any one in the discussion. I believe Wiley did a great job on this topic, although this topic should include the broader context as I discussed above. In the end, there are several considerations that go into decisions like this; if Wiley is correct, then the Texans should not have placated to Watson in that manner ( I am a Texans fan and live in Houston). Unfortunately, the one that has the gold makes the rules and hopefully after the Bill Obrien debacle as a GM, the organization will take a step back, examine themselves and move forward in a positive way. I for one believe the Texans are and have been 'diverse' for some time; the Dolphins actually fired a head coach with pedigree over obvious politics (idiots). Culley is not a victim, he was paid to do a job (like most of us in the US) and will collect the remainder of the guarantee on his contract (unlike most working people because we do not work under contract). If the goal is to reach the Super Bowl, then Culley is NOT your man; he is respectable and did his job to the best of his ability which is all he can control.

[@K1ngCheek]

Very good statement you wrote here brother. I too appreciate the open conversation these two were able to have, if we could get this a lot more then we’d be better off.

[@Dmitch1408]

These two boys keep it real and that is why they are the best all-around sports debate show.

[@justaguy5915]

You forgot Freddie Kitchens as a one and done coach.

[@bobbycain3719]

Brian Flores to the Texans. Watson reworks contract. All those women get paid. Watson stays put.

[@dwil8621]

And fire Easterby

[@darrenthomas9810]

Thank you for this segment

[@samuelrivera5611]

It is reported that the Texans owe him 17 million over the next 3 yrs. One season as head coach for the Texans has earned Culley 22 MILLION. I would not call that a failure. Mr. Culley understood the deal and walked away a winner. Do not feel bad for the guy. Most humans could only dream to make this kind of money.

[@cortezwatson9212]

I agree but there is another point here. The Texans owner is racist

[@AndyTN64]

Culley was living in his dream in Houston, and still get paid $4mil for the next 4 years.Culley didn’t feel sorry for himself.

[@gaddafigiraffi7805]

Could the Texans be trying to hire Brian flores to potentially get deshaun back on the field?

[@TheNightOwl11683]

That's my guess. Remember, it took 3 more days after Flores was fired by Miami for the Texans to fire Culley. I don't think they fire Culley if Flores wasn't available right now.

[@gavinsgamingworld5979]

I'm thinking the same. Last year Watson input for coach wasn't heard so maybe they making up for it tis around? 🤔 hope he stays tho. Go Texans

[@cB-pu5dn]

The owner is White the GM is white .. Deshawn is done in Houston ..

[@TheNightOwl11683]

@@cB-pu5dn Quick, name an NFL owner that's not white. I'll wait.

[@Nyabennah]

@@gavinsgamingworld5979 lol....just a garbage franchise.

[@Vargumedo24]

Acho be throwing intellectual bars

[@igotyaa5012]

As an Atlanta Braves fan and Deshaun Watson fan, I can understand how the city of Houston probably feel’s 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@akaslowsayone]

The fact that the Texan’s gm is still there, just baffles me.. sorry to the Texans fans

[@nne-nneabanobi]

Culley walks off with $22 million in his 70s. That's a pretty good retirement package. 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@thetarheel2010j]

🔥🔥🔥🔥 Wiley and Acho be on point!!!

[@MrMenace3210]

The quagmire now for the Texans, is whoever they hire next has to go 10-7 or be one and done. The optics will be atrocious if they do anything else.

[@starttheconvopod]

Great, fair discussion on this topic. Good job guys!

[@brianbacon6719]

Culley has 20+ years of experience. He was more than qualified. Acho didn't do his research on this.

[@soda8736]

Qualifications don't matter as much as he thinks it does. Mike Tomlin wasn't qualified.

[@factsovertheyfeelings5303]

🗣️THEY JUST GIVE THE WORLD REAL LIFE FACTS OVER FEELINGS😤

[@deonpowe9259]

Wiley is awesome and knowledgeable with the shuck and jive!

[@Middle-FingerAt-U]

But look how long it took Cal McNair to fire Bill O Brien... actually Cal made him GM and OC. Bob McNair is spining in his grave. Cal has no interest in a football team but to fill the stands. And listening to Easterby. He should just sell the team.

[@tacotacotington3638]

He shouldn’t have taken the job, plain and simple.

[@josetorojr4148]

Normally these guys are spot on but they have no idea what went on in Houston at all. You can tell that they've never seen a Culley press conference or his awful game management. Plus he's got 22 million retirement package.

[@brandonjackson9464]

Tuff being a head coach now today, guys like Brian Flores, Caldwell and others shouldn't been let off . Too much pressure and bad for the owner going from coach to coach changes if things don't work out. Some of these owners/gms don't know nothing about football, if you get the right guy, have to work with him and let him do his thing to turn the franchise around. All about trust and respect between a head coach and the owner 💯

[@JonathanMerlinSymmank]

The main reason why Culley was hired in the first place is because NO ONE wanted to coach the Texans!

[@SolidMikeP]

God I love this show

[@ybmsimba2410]

Deshaun wanted out before we ever even knew who the coach was gonna be. He requested the trade after the GM hire. He was promised some input on the coaching hire as well as the GM hire.. They even hired a search firm that they paid 500k and when the firm came back with 3 qualified candidates (two of them minorities) they were just like oh wait that New England guy is available? Yeah let’s go with him 🤦🏾‍♂️which is just another in a long sad history of this franchise hiring Patriot castoffs hence the “Some things never change” tweet from Watson. NOBODY wanted Caserio. As a Texans fan it’s extremely frustrating that it appears as if somehow our front office thinks the whole “Patriots South” nickname people sometime use to describe our organization is a compliment. It’s a meme they’re literally insulting our organization yet we keep signing former patriot players, hiring former Bill Belichick assistants, and now even GMs that were formerly apart of their organization. The crying out loud Ryan Mallet and Brian Hoyer used to quarterback this team.. both former Brady backups 😩🤦🏾‍♂️ and this has been going on for about the last decade now and we’ve only been around for 20 years… literally half of your existence you’ve been employing this strategy and the most you’ve gotten to show for it is a few 2nd round playoff exits. Definition of Insanity man.

[@XavierWorthyfan]

None of this has to do with his race

[@Hail2daChief]

DeShawn Watson asked for Eric bienemy..he never said I want any old black coach..he asked for a specific one

[@edsheppard7201]

You keep talking about what Watson wanted. and he caused collateral damage. You have to keep in mind that yes he may have wanted a black coach but not just any black coach. He had someone in the pool not Culley and they said NO, so then when he decided not to play they went out and hired Culley. To me that was a spit in the face. It was obvious they just did it to get Watson to play. So the bottom line he still didn't have a say in the hiring process ,

[@soda8736]

So why did Houston want Culley and not Bienimy?

[@whitewhale9012]

No QB picks the head coach. Watson's entitlement is a joke. Guy signed a big money extension AFTER the team dumped Hopkins, regretted it after a bad season, and tried to force his way out. Everything else is for show. If you dont want to be there, dont sign the contract.

[@Chartlaub5]

These 2 men are great representatives for males. Uber intelligent

[@squests3139]

Black coaches gotta stop taking bs coaching jobs.

[@ReneParada]

As much as I want a black head coach to succeed, but there certainly is something more than just race that simplifies this decision. The GM and owner may have seen a better coach to hire this year than what they have in Culley., maybe Flores since Caserio is a former Pat as well.

[@cortezwatson9212]

Mane ✋ please they are hiring a white coach

[@maynaa2]

Preach Acho…….”Didn’t deserve to be fired, but didn’t deserve to be hired as well”….PREACH!!!!

[@tysonmoree3915]

Stay focused Acho .. don’t be the messenger, be the change , you’ll are amazingly gifted! Where’s Joy ? Lol

[@Samsos609]

this my new favorite duo

[@michaelhenry7246]

Did you ever think that the Texans just didn't like his coaching philosophy.

[@soda8736]

It is possible

[@spawn2414]

I already knew not to watch this when they brought race into this

[@quesodagod8840]

There’s only one Latino coach The league needs more coaches from La Raza

[@ifheavenwashuman]

Acho loaded the clip, early.

[@fantilldeath528trajectory]

7-10 with our this year honestly wasnt that bad and literally met forecasters predictions during preseason so I ain't mad with our coach.

[@DesertEagleSam]

Coach Culley still got the 💰,he got that 22 mil GARENTEEE

[@RobertCone]

About time somebody said it. Culley was hired to appease Watson, it didn't work, so he's out. He got paid $8m on a gamble, so you can't feel too badly for the man. As far as the Texans go, he might have only been fired when Flores became available. But remember, Culley was hired as an "unqualified candidate" because no qualified candidate meeting Watson's criteria would put themselves in that situation. We'll see if Flores will, or if he gets a Watson return guarantee first.

[@rightawayinsurance6541]

Did you do a 3 minute google search to see what the man’s experience was before calling him an unqualified candidate he has 2 decades 27 years of nfl coaching experience and over 40 years between collegiate and nfl this is either an unqualified comment or a racist dog whistle

[@RobertCone]

@@rightawayinsurance6541 LOL. It was in quotation marks because it was a direct quote from the hosts, whom you just called racist.

[@johnsumner3031]

If you listened to the hosts they were also waiting for further information on his resume and didn’t know about his experience as acho kept saying I am waiting for you guys to get in my ear with his resume and I’m just going off the top of my head with his experience you on the other hand are not live on air and have the luxury of Google to avoid making and idiotic statement.

[@RobertCone]

@@johnsumner3031 You need to finish watching the video apparently.

[@johnsumner3031]

@@RobertCone I did finish watching it that is why I know that acho was waiting for his production team to update him with culleys experience regardless of what two former athletes with concussion history’s or cte may be able to come up with off of the top of their head you and I can Google before Labeling someone unqualified and I didn’t call you a racist I said this comment is either unqualified meaning you didn’t take the time to research what you were about to say or a racist dog whistle I assume it’s the former not the latter again a quick Google search will show that Culley was an assistant nfl coach for 27 years and had another 15 years coaching on the collegiate level that spurns qualified to me.

[@semtex234]

Culley got 4 wins with that squad. Pretty impressive if you ask me. Imagine what he could do with a talented team

[@yetanotherbeliever]

Great segment and real talk.

[@8thaccount535]

Has it ever occurred to you there is only 1 black coach for reasons that aren't racism? Of course not, you guys are never responsible for your own failures.

[@jaybird8192]

Best thing that happened to David Culley! He's free from that 💩 organization!!!

[@dadgonegamer2654]

Culley was always meant to be a placeholder hire. He was never meant to be the long term solution for us and everyone here knew it. They either want McDaniels or Flores.

[@selfrelience9384]

Wiley always seems to be the voice of reason. Question for Acho…why don’t they draft more white players? Why is race only brought up for the coaches? Is it no racist for Watson to want a black coach?

[@philwade]

Place blame in it's proper place, there were multiple coaches available that would have satisfied both the requirements of providing the QB with input into the team that he plays for thus creating a sense of ownership, "you work harder for yours than you do for someone else's". The second thing is that the Texans passed over all the best candidates like Leftwich, Solis, Bieniemy and others were virtually passed over and a crony system was further entrenched by the hiring of Nick Cesario into the Texans organization thus ignoring the results of the consulting group of Tony Dungy, Jimmy Johnson, Ron Graves, R.C. Buford and our own Andre Johnson for the single opinion of you know who "Jack the Easter-bunny Easterby". Until the Texans rid themselves of this non-football influenced crony they will be the worst destination for top players, coaches and results.

[@ericgraves251]

Two grown me talking real issues. Can’t find that on espn.

[@OL_TONE]

I don't feel sorry for someone who's walking away with multi millions after one year of work. Coach got that bag, salute.

[@squests3139]

What, did he really just blame the 1 black player that had the ball to demand a black coach. I bet he did not demand a black coach.

[@mitchellajieroh]

he didn't... he wanted EB so idk where Cel got that from

[@puchovasquez1577]

How you bring up race and then say leave race out of it 🤦‍♂️

[@randylouissaint1636]

Race was always a part of it. Deshaun wanted a black HC

[@soda8736]

@@randylouissaint1636 imagine if Big Ben said he wanted a white coach

[@randylouissaint1636]

@@soda8736 If 80% of the NFL was White, with 100% of the owners being black and 99% of the coaches being black and Big Ben said that, there would be no issue.

[@soda8736]

@@randylouissaint1636 yes there would even in your scenario.. Black people are allowed to be racist..

[@randylouissaint1636]

@@soda8736 Everyone is “allowed” to be racist. It’s not illegal (unless violence is involved). Whether you are black or white, if you say a racist slur at work, you’ll likely get fired.

[@noles9998]

Says to remove race from the conversation while simultaneously pushing race into the conversation 😂

[@alberttate8198]

I think he should’ve gotten two years considering the roster he had. He most likely shouldn’t have been hired. Jim Caldwell, Marvin Lewis, and Greg Roman we better options. But he took the job and too many people exceeded expectations To one of Marcellus points, I think there are plenty of qualified black coaches and former black players who want to coach. One of the issues is the people doing the hiring for position coaches may not bring in more black coaches. Most coordinators come from being a position coach.

[@tylerwilliams0037]

David Culley was just sacrificial lamb he wins 4 games with this roster with no franchise QB and you fire him this showed me that they wanted him to fail because when you don’t have a first, second, or third round pick how can you build a roster like come on Houston it’s a dumpster fire franchise

[@Drg1304]

jets jaquaurs lions giants those are dumpster fires at least the Texans and dolphins are competitive

[@tylerwilliams0037]

@@Drg1304 that’s true they were competitive they won 4 game

[@khareembruce8832]

Great segment

[@hume1234561]

Wiley was on point and Acho knew it.