SGB Play: Super Mario Sunshine - Part 22 | Secrets Are Abound

[@Kirby2301]

16:24 Elliot may not be here now, but Johnny can still channel him in spirit.

[@hypershadix1]

Bear Lee Gaming "John seriously?!" "I activated the hover nozzle!"

[@DannyJennyArtz]

Bear Lee Gaming admittedlly when I saw this comment, I thought John was gonna make a bird noise at that moment and I was gonna reply with "Bird calls run in the family apparently." :P

[@lordkaijux5262]

He's making it harder than it has to be though like come on dude no disrespect or anything.

[@sebastiancintron29]

Damn even when Elliot isnt there, his presence is felt

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

Elliot has been kidnapped by Dr. West! Now Sabrina Taylor must rescue him with the help of the Terror Mask, voiced Jim Cummings- Ill stop now, Im sorry.

[@saiyanscaris6530]

?

[@onesonicguy]

Computer-Monster No you're not. Stop lying to yourself.

[@ZeroReaper42]

...I don't want to think of what the collectibles for that would be. ...Shit, too late.

[@Zumabdeen]

Elliot somehow became Jenny & inside the game. XD

[@no1important777]

you collect audio logs of "bird noises"

[@thephantomist7199]

The Blue Coin tally is still at 2/240, but Elliot jumped off this ship before it sank, a wise move on his part. The Red Coins in the hotel mission loosened John by a considerable amount, so the insanity meter has jumped up to a 5/10, with his ally's slowly falling and the Blue Coin apocalypse coming closer and closer, the future doesn't seem bright for John. (In all seriousness I hope you get better soon Elliot, you make up a part of SGB that just cannot be replaced)

[@LionsEatNoobs]

Get well soon Elliot

[@CraftyGaming28]

LionsEatNoobs (Mighty Lion LPs) we prey you well eillot

[@jaylincarrington6182]

Elliot Fight The Flu

[@williamwhite2568]

LionsEatNoobs (Mighty Lion LPs) Elliot's backseat gaming is soooo damn annoying

[@Plokman040]

Indeed Ellio hope you feel better.

[@williamwhite2568]

Plokman040 I don't

[@GreenShinobi70]

Maybe it's just me being used to playing it so much, but with SA2, it never seemed that troublesome when going back (especially after playing SA1 immediately beforehand). I never understood how it got so much hate nowadays. The earliest I can recall this getting more prominent (and I'm not bashing him for it) was around the time Projared made his video on the game. As for Mario Sunshine, it controls well, but it does a number of questionable design choices (such as 100 coin missions, certain minigame levels, and the fact that the 100% reward was ultimately not worth the trouble). Other than that, it's still a joy to play.

[@jdtheba9171]

Sees ric flair, suddenly hears a whoo!! In the university courtyard

[@ianbough4122]

9:10 Well Matt, there are these mystical things known as "Ladders" that he may have used to get there.

[@awesomeserghernandez6389]

Dis video too scary cause of the rick flare jump scare...

[@HubPie3]

*Mario breaks into a secret hotel room that has a Moblin showering. The Moblin looks at Mario awkwardly and vice versa with Mario* Moblin: It's a secret to everyone. *gives Mario a blue rupee* Mario: I wonder how much I can get for this... *One Rupee to Coin exchange later...* Mario: 5 coins, what a gyp!

[@LionsEatNoobs]

Hub Pie *Then an Old man barges in* Old man: Now pay me for damages. Mario: But I didn't even break anything. Old man: Well, I still don't like you. *Snatches the Rupee* Mario: Well, shit.

[@lordkaijux5262]

Link: Hey where I come from it's worth hundreds you should've kept for yourself for something more valuable better yet get more of them Mario: *(Surprised by Link's sudden speech)* Link: I mean umm....... HYEEEEEEAAAA!!!

[@Zumabdeen]

Mario "..." Link "After the CDI games, my reputation was damaged. I was lucky to fix it thanks to Zelda. Now excuse me, I must go back to HYEEEEEEAAAAAA!" Mario: O.o

[@lunarpaladin7098]

Hub Pie So would a Blue Rupee be worth a Blue Coin to those asshole Tanookie's? I'm sure Mario would be ok with that, especially for later.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

Hub Pie Hah! It's a blue Rupee! Never noticed that before.

[@zwariowanywojtek]

Johnny caught a blue coin again, he has 3 at the end of the video.

[@MrYoshbert]

13:40 - That gif of Mario rapping, by the way? It's from the Japanese commercial for Mario Pinball Land.

[@TimGaukerToons]

MrYoshbert Thats where it’s from?! I’ve been wondering what this was for 10 years.

[@blazeruby767]

The rapping Mario gif came from the Japanese Mario Pinball Land commercial for the GBA. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6OpmppjiNOnmMU

[@21gomez16]

7:41 they were literally staring at it 🤣

[@NanaKyoto]

Hey at least there's no _Green_ coins right?

[@SetoShadowVT]

Mario: DONT GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!!!!!

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

Nana-Kyoto ... Actually, no, make it only used for a bonuses; it subs as your 5 coins, and if you find enough in a stage, you can get to play as Other Characters, like Luigi, Shadow mario and Wario.

[@79bigcat]

Green coins for blue stars?

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

79BigCat ...No. characters only. Doesn't count toward the completion counter.

[@shawnfields266]

Nana-Kyoto I highly doubt the color of the coins was the main issue, though i agree. Green coins would just be tacky.

[@Maxlopes13]

God damn that cell phone ringtone scared me! I thought someone was calling my phone XD

[@MrYoshbert]

A Hotel Mario remake on Switch would be pretty neat, actually. Better yet, make that Hotel _Captain Toad_ , given its puzzle elements.

[@Chconroy]

Even when sick, Elliot can still meme through his edits.

[@kentuckyfriedsushi2049]

r.i.p. elliot

[@saiyanscaris6530]

?

[@saiyanscaris6530]

nevermind

[@onesonicguy]

kentuckyfriedsushi RIP in pasta

[@LOLManArchives]

6:38 "...Back 2 Back, do not do that" I don't know why this stood out to me maybe because it reminded that the Sonic Rush is pretty good

[@shadic1988]

John, Pinna Park is loaded with Coins in Episodes 5 and onward.

[@jamesbanner010]

After reading an article about how Sunshine's prototype was about rescuing people instead of collecting shine sprites, I kind of wish Nintendo stuck with that idea. nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-was-initially-planning-super-mario-sunshine-to-be-a-disaster-recovery-mission-style-game/

[@JMandJJ7797]

I mean that makes sense since a lot of Pinatas end up being submerged in the Magic Paint or goop or whatever.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

jamesbanner010 Oh wow, that's sounds cool! It's almost the early prototype for New Donk City in Mario Oddessy. How much more difficult would it be to program?

[@lucasmartinez5703]

That would've been an interesting spin on a Mario game. Plus, it would give me more of a reason to give a fuck about the Piantas.

[@knight147fighte4]

Ok, I was listening to this video with headphones while my phone was in my pocket. Once 13:20 came up, I honestly thought someone was calling me.

[@nicholasrosko3050]

Well at least Mr Greg is around for Elliot.

[@Skalopulton301]

FINALLY!!! He finally went back to Pinna Park and got the Secret Shinesprite!

[@TheGundamDude8045]

3 BLUE COINS?! Realy hope you dont forget coming here again for the cleanup john. 😂

[@dnrx01]

That phone sound actually startled me

[@SinisterHoodedFigure]

Every 8th mission had Johnny groaning and enduring misery. Six for six. While there is always the odd mission that ruffles Johnny, such as chucksters, you can guarantee mission 8 is going to cause pain.

[@edr8054]

The Skip Bosses article was real. It was by Rock, Paper, Shotgun. It argued that games should have skippable combat in order to be more inclusive. Personally I think that's pretty dumb, even if it would be optional because what's the point in skipping the main portion of a game's experience? To appreciate the atmosphere and aesthetics? I mean sure, but you can appreciate those elements regardless of playing the game. So what's the point of playing a game if you essentially removed most of the gameplay. Plus it seems to come from the mindset that difficulty is a barrier to a game's experience rather than a core facet of it. Like the Souls games where losing and learning from your mistakes is a big part of their charm. Or most multiplayer games for that matter.

[@StrikeTeam99]

matt 2017 in effect, all these "game journalist" are just mad they did not become film reviewers so they are trying to turn interactive video games into movies you sit and watch. Us dumb nerds need to make way for the true fans people who bandwagon on pop-culture trends and failed film critics.

[@PaceBreaker]

Seems Johnny's still subconsciously suffering from PTSD brought on by the Nintendothon run.

[@ShadyKnight9]

And so Matt and Johnny continue to apply the sins of only a handful of people upon the entire species.

[@OathKeeperRiku07]

Con flu.. I still miss AWA 2017, which Johnny was there, never saw him

[@kel2502]

Mario ivades the privacy of the hotel guests by barging into their rooms in search of red coins

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

I found it funny how Elliot chooses *Pennywise* possibly before the IT trailer was a thing.

[@canadienogre]

I know its not much but the reason why people got mad about the skip a boss idea for cuphead is because if you were to have that feature the game would be pointless. The reason for this is because if youre not playing the game for a challenge then mostlikely youre playing the game to look at the beauty of the animation but if there was a skip function youd lose the abilty to see the thing you bought the game for.

[@StrikeTeam99]

There is a skip gameplay option it's called watching let's plays.

[@selder_7]

with SA2 it's definitely not that it was bad back then, it's just suddenly deciding it's bad because everyone did after one guy did

[@onesonicguy]

Scott Elder And everyone jumped on the bandwagon like the sheep they are. How sad.

[@thephantomist7199]

I prefer SA1 personally but I can definitely see SA2s strengths and I don't hold it against anyone who enjoys SA2 over SA1. Though that may be because my first Sonic Game was SA1, but I see its problems clear as day.

[@Zumabdeen]

What about the aging process? As in, at the time it was good. But then after time & better games, it didn't age well. Like the controls for Super Mario 64.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

I never thought it was that great and always thought it was one of the more really overrated Sonic games. I personally prefer Heroes over both Adventure games.

[@ActuallyTragic]

Scott Elder Who was that one guy anyway? I always thought it was IGN, giving their track record.

[@AlmightySmorg]

If those Shine Sprites are so secret why do you know about them?

[@MRfunnyordie3]

Internet.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

AlmightySmorg Uhh... Internet? ...sh*t, someone beat me to the Nickelodeon joke.

[@graybilljunker8199]

11:04 Now I'm reminded of Moneybags.

[@donkeykong75m]

a distinct lack of bird calls i didnt know you guys were doing weekend RPGs early this week

[@Kelis98]

Sunshine and the Galaxy games are both/all great games.

[@Master-of-Cancer]

SGB Play: Super Mario Sunshine - Episode 22 | Jump-Cuts-a-Plenty

[@jamesgriffin7962]

Penny wise and ric flair in a mario video that’s how you know your watching sgb

[@bambanmangaka8034]

Elliot has a case of SplatterHerpies.... I'll see myself out

[@minionman123]

13:43....Does anyone else hear a scream of terror coming from the right??

[@Iamfavor1987]

I see Johnny have trained himself to speak like Bob Saget on TPIR

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

6:08 Random guy in the background: (that's bullshit!)

[@SuperGamerman98]

Mario REALLY needs to find something other than red coins to fuel his pacemaker.

[@pure1846]

7:41 and that's where Johnny's biggest fuck-up happened. That red coin right in front of his face.

[@HerosHelper]

The hidden stages in this game slowly get more and more bizarre in terms of looks.

[@LegendOfSolidus]

Red Coins in the Hotel isn't that bad. It just takes practice to know where to find all the coins, then you can beat it with no problem. Definitely not a bad level. The only level in this game that I DO think is absolute bullshit is the pachinko level because the controls are horrendous.

[@jjc4924]

But it's still stupid though.

[@wumbodude1125]

Get well soon Elliot. We miss you

[@sneshadow]

Happy Canadian thanksgiving Sgb and get well soon Elliot

[@iownalx23]

the secret is that there seems to be no spoopy boo kingdom in odyssey. which is odd since it releases near halloween. and so it has people a bit dissapointed.

[@PhoeniksStorm]

Also johnny you were so close first try, had you ground pounded on the different coloured tile in the room you shot water at the poster to make the whole, you would've found the last red coin

[@matiasrivas1692]

Or if he wasn't so distracted that he missed the red coin that spawned right in front of him at the start of the mission.

[@Bluedino152]

Isn't it great how a single hidden shine that's entirely optional and easy to miss ends up being the only foreshadowing to how to beat the final boss? Sirenna beach also has a respawning 100 coin method via slots, but it's slow as hell, and gelato beach has the watermelon (either by breaking them, or pushing the smaller ones to the juicer) I have galaxy 2's normal stars, but I still have only the green stars of world 1. So yes, I never experienced the hell of grandmaster.

[@Zumabdeen]

I found it amusing that this hidden sprite was the method to beating Sunshine. Also 100 coin missions SUCK.

[@lazyc0mmander277]

3:03 Holy shit bullet bills are brutal in this game.

[@blackfox4138]

Elliot, you're such a good brother!

[@zachgamemaster3329]

Ok, but seriously. Galaxy 2 is what you get when you say "lets make Galaxy 1 more tedious and less story." I don't blame Greg for not wanting to finish Galaxy 2. It's still a nice game in a way, but if you really want to have fun, you play through it once with as little stars as you can, and don't worry about replaying every stage for the green stars or playing the extra world.

[@williamwhite2568]

I agree with you.

[@Pinkanator]

WOO

[@smashmaster521]

Things Johnny Did Wrong #67: Not waiting for Elliot to get better before continuing the playthrough. Things Johnny Did Wrong #68: 4:17 = FAILURE! Things Johnny Did Wrong #69: 7:42 = Why did you walk away from the FIRST Red Coin? Things Johnny Did Wrong #70: 16:03 = Hey! I saw that jump cut! Nice try, but...FAILURE! Things Johnny Did Wrong #71: 16:09 = There we go...FAILURE! Things Johnny Did Wrong #72: 16:27 = Wow...you were doing a lot better WITHOUT F.L.U.D.D. in this level. Things Johnny Did Wrong #73: 19:02 = Hey! I saw that jump cut too! Stop cutting out inevitable deaths and embrace your FAILURES with dignity. Things Johnny Did Wrong #74: 20:10 = You're not one to call Sunshine speedrunners cheaters, Johnny, consider that you cleared the Pachinko and Lily Pad levels on your first try, a feat many have been unable to do, and CHEATED by clipping your way to the Shine Sprite in Episode 3 of Sirena Beach.

[@willy24able]

Red Coins in the Hotel-Another infamous mission. The place that the Red Coins is way too big and the Red Coins are far away from each other. What's worst is that this place is so maze-like making this place so confusing without using the guide. Do I forget to mention that there's an arbitrary time limit as you would expect from the Red Coin Mission that's worst than 64? Secret Shine in Sirena Beach is also another infamous mission. SERIOUSLY! FUCK RED COIN MISSIONS!

[@PhantomShadow224]

I'm sure it's possible to get 100 coins on any stage. yeah, I know it's easier on some stages more than others but you just have to be really careful (and know where all the coins are. Simple ^_^)

[@spartanq7781]

It's still a pain in the ass. I hate 100 coin missions in this and Mario 64. I'm glad they have been fizzled out of Mario games.

[@flyingfist4203]

Does anyone know if it's possible to get that secret shine sprite before the lighthouse appears (via defeating that goo monster)?

[@PuyoProto]

From what I read, the thing with the AssCree game was that they were adding in a history mode sort of thing, where there wasn't really any gameplay, and some sort of cutscenes? But then there were legitimate articles advocating for games allowing you to skip bosses and such... using that as an example. One article in particular bashed Breath of the Wild for being great to explore, but having bad bosses that you have to fight. Even though those bosses are optional, and you can explore to your heart's content without having to do any story. You won't be able to beat the game, of course, but shit, if you can't handle the easy bosses of BotW, be real, you're not going after Ganon in the first place. I'm of the mindset that if you're going to get a game, you have to realize that there's going to be challenge. It's not like a movie or a book, you are actively doing something. Yes, there's nothing inherently wrong about an optional invincibility block or a skip capsule if you die too many times, and I've certainly played my fair share of games in an easy mode. The issue, however, is that there are these people clamoring for accessibility in games that already teach you what you need to do. Git Gud is a common response, but it is a pretty good one in a lot of these cases. If you're playing a game, and you want it to hold your hand the whole way through... ...Well, you're Arin Hanson, to start off with, and nobody wants to be an Arin Hanson. But you're also probably just not part of the target audience of the game. If you wanna watch the story of a game, then... you could just watch it online?

[@RedKing12000]

Reminds me of the modern Fire Emblem controversies… *shudders* Regardless, good points.

[@RedKing12000]

I now hope my boy Eli-Creeps offers his own thoughts via post editing magic.

[@HugoTheIcyFire]

Elliot is sick? It must the an enemy Stand!

[@petwisk2012]

I feel Sorry Johnny but The Guy with The "Skip The Boss Button" was talking serious, and he Said on Tweeter that people that uses the word Gameplay have to rethink their live choices

[@introspectre7713]

I don't think that the "Skip Bosses" article was what John was referring to. There was a fake image made for Super Mario Odyssey where there were two modes, "Normal Mode" and "Game Journalist Mode".

[@petwisk2012]

Introspectre it's not, The article os exactly what he was talking (about The "Discovery Mode in Assasins Creed Origins)

[@homuraakemi103]

Some nerds have this ego thing that’s wounded at the very idea that anyone COULD use such a feature like “no enemies”, “Super Guide”, and “Touhou Easy Mode”...

[@OPLOmega]

The part of the game where things start to go downhill, the dreaded 100% portions. Side Effects may include seeing how this game was rushed (no joke, apparently the Sunshine we got is missing quite a few levels that didn't make it into the final game).

[@Jotar0w0]

Rest in pepperoni Eliot 2009-2017

[@lectordreadwood3273]

Mark the exploration mode in the next AC game is real however your wrong about the out rage to it, the outrage was generated from an article where the author was under the notion that this exploration mode would allow you to progress story, (spoiler alert it doesn't) the author praised this and wanted to see more games that remove all challenge and allow you to just skip to the end

[@introspectre7713]

Mark's not in the video. You're referring to Matt.

[@joshua51790]

just for kicks, just add random audio bits of elliot's previous commentaries for the next few parts.

[@Bowserslave]

12:06 Ah no kid me saw the nonsense back then. There were plenty of missions kid me despised playing through and watching back I still kind of dread. Honestly to me personally even doing a non 100% runthrough involves playing through some really bad levels. But back then I had nothing else to do so course I kept playing. You bet as soon as Corona Mountain unlocked I went straight for it and never looked back, and then received one last disappointment in Bowser's horrendously unfitting voice.

[@ohhreptar8897]

Who is the third guy? Not Matt, I'm new to SGB.

[@ianbough4122]

The more I think about it, the more that I realize that mission 3 of Serena Beach is just Mario breaking and entering other people's rooms, to the point that Mario SHOULD be arrested for the things he's doing.

[@Zumabdeen]

But he isn't because he's tasked with collecting Shine Sprites & they leave it up to him. Also it's Karma, what goes around, comes around. They treated Mario unjustly, they deserve to be treated as such. Even if Mario is a sore loser XD

[@JMandJJ7797]

Funny how Johnny did the dickish levels in one go and even complaining about them but gets a lot more trouble in the secret level here he finished before when trying to get all the Red Coins.

[@BoredLion99]

2:01 Far right?! Shine sprites, more like Nazi Sprites. Also, I thought Greg would make the joke considering he's always making word play of everything but was disappointed.

[@Rpglucario]

Aw man being sick sucks. Get well soon elliot.

[@diegomedina9637]

So have you guys ever played Mario Sunshine with a 60 fps patch? Shit's weird.

[@jjc4924]

And this is why I'm not a fan of Sirena Beach. As gorgeous as it looks on the outside, it still has the most repetitive missions. It may not have the worst missions in the game, but there up there.

[@bldem4ster103]

Sirena Beach red coins ... ugh, I don't like. Even when I know where everything is, it's not really fun. Edit: Ok, there are accidental deaths, and then there is 16:25. WTF.

[@TheRedGuy]

Yea as good as Galaxy is, I rarely go back to it. Which is why I prefer 64 and Sunshine. Regarding the whole "no enemies" or "skip bosses" stuff, it annoys me when people disregard anyone whose against the idea as "nerds" or whatever. Like you can't handle different opinions on the subject while also saying that they can't handle different opinions. Look I'm against that kind of stuff because it just undermines the whole point of a game. The gameplay is the main point of games, why would you want to skip core parts of the game? Why would you want newcomers to skip the core experience? This is what brings this art form together, it's not some small bonus, it's the entire experience. How can games grow as an art form if the entire point is made meaningless?

[@TheRedGuy]

I do remember a lot of Galaxy 1 and 2's levels, but I don't know, I really liked them when I played them, and even considered them to be the best Mario games, but over time I realized I never really had the erg the play them again. I have a couple times but not nearly as much as 64 or Sunshine, it's probably because I prefer the exploration based collectathon brand of 3D platformers over linear ones. Yea if you're not going to at least attempt to bring out a good argument and just write off anyone who disagrees as "nerds" then don't bother. At least it didn't last long.

[@StrikeTeam99]

Video games are already art multiple artist are involved in making video games. The people who say video games need to "grow up" to be art are pushing a lie. If a toilet can be art so can something musicians, artists, and coders worked hours to make be considered art.

[@Trigger99X]

Browser junior disliked the video because there's no Elliot

[@jinx1987]

Why is it when elliot isn’t around everyone talks maturely?

[@onesonicguy]

This part should have been called the Great Sunshine Debate. While yes, Sunshine does have it's problems, its not this outright piece of shit that everyone likes to make it out to be nowadays. Though I certainly wouldn't equate it to SA2. That's a whole 'nother discussion that I'd really prefer we didn't get into. That shit has been stupid to me since day one, and always will be. On another note, Johnny can't platform. The PTSD has finally caught up to him.

[@Zumabdeen]

On the subject, you ever think they'll revisit the Sunshine formula in anyway? At least bring FLUDD back? Or is it forever in the realm of the void, never to return to us again?

[@bldem4ster103]

Hmm ... I don't mind FLUDD, but it would be awkward to suddenly bring the machine in a new 3D game, unless if it's a Sunshine 2 or follow the formula of Sunshine (which I don't think they will do it).

[@millardmilsap5185]

The problem is that Sunshine is in a Catch 22 where it's the middle sibling of 64 and Galaxy formulas. 64 had somewhat large areas but you can get anything you want at anytime. Compared to Galaxy you have more of a condensed platforming mission based gameplay. Sunshine is sadly the middle that gotten both ideas combined in which Nintendo tried to basically have it's cake and eat it to.

[@lordkaijux5262]

If they make a Sunshine sequel don't make some of the missions and ESPECIALLY the bonus ball-busting infuriating or long and drawn out *LOOKING AT YOU MYSTERIOUS HOTEL DELFINO!*

[@theshygamer3633]

General herpies

[@kenshin491]

Elliot as become Barry!

[@homuraakemi103]

What, Zeus?...

[@lordkaijux5262]

Welcome to the 310 view club how tough are you?

[@TimppaFin93]

Things that Johnny did wrong #14189: 3:50 Almost fail #14190: 4:18 Going down... #14191: 6:38 Ignoring Blue bird that has blue coin #14192: 7:42 Ignoring red coin #14193: 9:42 Ignoring blue coin #14194: 12:32 Ignoring another blue coin #14195: 12:51 CUT! #14196: 16:01 going down... and CUT! #14197: 16:12 down... #14198: 16:26 Going down again... #14199: 16:35 CUT! #14200: 18:14 Going down once more... #14201: 18:19 CUT! #14202: 19:00 Going down, but here comes the CUT!

[@PhoeniksStorm]

I was about to comment about Johnny not going for the secret shine on top of the lighthouse. But speaking of that as Matt was saying the shines are assholes in this game. I mean why did it go that far up, because if you somehow manage to get up there with the hover nozzle you still need to get further up to ground pound the "hockey puck" (that's what i thought it was) and if say you manage to do that you obviously could do it again. Its the same thing as with the shine gate sprite. Maybe they wanted you to feel like the power ups were uses nore than they are normally

[@Kendall231]

Elliott, I hope you get better really fast so that way you can get back to SGB Super Mario Sunshine let’s play, (and other SGB let’s plays), soon because it is just not a SGB let’s play without you Elliott because right now SBG doesn’t feel complete and to me you, (Elliott), make SGB complete and because of that SGB is not SGB it is just SG because you put the “B” in SGB, (since you you and Johnny are both brothers), so SGB won’t be SGB just SG until you, (Elliot), return to SGB, (yes I know you, (Elliott), are still there like Johnny said but Johnny said that you, (Elliott), are well enough just to be behind-the-scene/in the background editing the videos, (which includes added pictures/clips), but that you, (Elliott), are not so well enough to engage in the let’s plays so again, Elliott, I hope you get better really fast so that way you can get back to SGB Super Mario Sunshine let’s play, (and other SGB let’s plays), soon because it is just not a SGB let’s play without you Elliott.

[@587DeathKing]

Honestly the "it's optional" mentality begins as a bit of slippery slope of how games get made now I mean hell look at costume DLC, lootboxes and even difficulty modes which are now behind DLC for certain games but that's always defended with *it's optional*

[@StrikeTeam99]

It starts as optional then becomes permanent. Gate keeping is bad if you want your hobby to be fun and not over run by people who are just following trends/s

[@brandonthomas1078]

Will you play cuphead

[@blazingwaters7469]

I saving this thought for the end, but since it's a topic of discussion: Not a huge fan of Sunshine. I mean, I like it, but I never understood the opinion of it being the best Mario game - 3D or not. It has an inconsistent level quality, the bosses that _are_ in this game suck royally, the camera is still as janky as ever, the controls heavily rely with FLUDD, which I wouldn't mind so much if I didn't feel like a gimped 64-style Mario whenever he's taken away from me, and there's some levels which can look pretty, but be immensely boring to complete (*cough* Gelato and Sirena Beach *cough*). Even as a kid I always thought the likes of both Galaxy games were better in almost every area, and 64 having the better controls and an *actual* open-ended nature to it.

[@jjc4924]

I can totally understand. I'm not a fan of Sunshine either. Not an bad game. Just an average game that could've been better.

[@gatst7680]

Where's Persona tho

[@TimGaukerToons]

Gats T Where’s Jersey Devil?!

[@gatst7680]

Timothy Gauker Persona!

[@Jesterclown17]

Show those con-herpes who's boss, Elliot!

[@soupbowler2036]

12:41 Umm, you mean the box room underneath the room with the Boo Poster you just left? Hate to be a dick long after this was recorded, buuuuuut you could've saved some tims there. In all honesty, this is one kf the worst levels in the game (not just the mission, the whole hotel). Aside from the Manta Ray being the only highlight, the levels requiring going through the hotel like a maze is tedious and boring, the two secret levels are a but lack luster, the entire Casino (albiet, has good music) has bullshit luck based progression with the slots and its boss fight, and the final mission shown in this episode is a fine example of Sunshine's stupid filler shines. At least the sunset is nice to look at...

[@tino9117]

Ah man, Without Elliot it'll just be Super Gamer + Dudes: Kingdom Battle... Hope Elliot gets well soon. Also on a side note, these awkward moments of tedium and poor mission foundation, seems to be were sms's "rushed" development *Shines*

[@SetoShadowVT]

FUCK THAT RED COIN MISSION!!!!!!!! Also get well Elliot!