We put this ABOMINATION to the TEST!

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Shadiversity

Shadiversity

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@RainMakeR_Workshop
@RainMakeR_Workshop Жыл бұрын
I still want you to put a Katana wrap on the Kriegsmesser with the uncomfortable grip.
@blacknblueblanket1627
@blacknblueblanket1627 Жыл бұрын
That is katana
@jordanezell5132
@jordanezell5132 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@makisonoda7925
@makisonoda7925 Жыл бұрын
A Katana is not double edged. It never will be, never can be . Putting a Katana grip and Tsuba on a double edged long sword tang does not make it a Katana nor anything equivalent to it. What Tyranth made was an abomination as he said it was , it isn’t built to last. In fact the pin to hold the long sword tang in the Katana grip was achieved only by a metal pin and glue to keep the handle on the tang. Yes the “original “ sword looks interesting, it’s fiction. Functional or not, it’s fiction. And I honestly don’t like the way a double edged blade looks with a Tsuba ( Japanese Sword guard) , and a Japanese Sword hilt looks. But that’s my personal opinion. It doesn’t matter what my opinion is. If it works, it works.
@DanielMWJ
@DanielMWJ Жыл бұрын
​​@@makisonoda7925But it's literally not fiction? It's a real thing he made. It's certainly *ahistorical*. And Kriegsmessers aren't double-edged if you're talking about that.
@Likexner
@Likexner Жыл бұрын
@@makisonoda7925 What are you talking about? Are you sure you posted this comment in the right thread?
@mobgabriel1767
@mobgabriel1767 Жыл бұрын
Shad:"its against the laws of nature when it comes to swords" "Its a perversion against the natural order!" Also shad:currently wielding a longsword with a katana handle
@DanielMWJ
@DanielMWJ Жыл бұрын
Checks out.
@Fallenangel_85
@Fallenangel_85 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, it's already been done historically and used a lot. The Korean Sain-Geom has pretty much a Tsuba like guard and a double edge.
@JustArt-ro3lp
@JustArt-ro3lp Жыл бұрын
@@Fallenangel_85 ooh a Korean sword? Not gonna lie I’ve never heard of such weapon thank you for enlightening me.
@MikePhantom
@MikePhantom 11 ай бұрын
and promoting AI crap
@H20No
@H20No 10 ай бұрын
@@Fallenangel_85looked at some pictures and the guard looks not much like a suba. Nor does the handle have a similar length to the sword in the video, it’s just an eastern double edged sword.
@VegetaLF7
@VegetaLF7 Жыл бұрын
I think one of my favorite parts about how things have evolved since Nate and Tyranth joined the team is just how much the three of you guys bicker with each other. It genuinely feels like a group of friends goofing off and I love it.
@jeroenceulemans3715
@jeroenceulemans3715 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Their chemistry is fantastic and it makes the vids so fun!
@TheSteam02
@TheSteam02 Жыл бұрын
Often times, channels that introduce new members tend to fall off quickly. Not with this channel. I genuinely believe that the content has massively improved due to the inclusion of Nate and Tyranth.
@benjamincoulter5237
@benjamincoulter5237 10 ай бұрын
Their friend group chemistry reminds me of the top gear chemistry
@LelouchVee
@LelouchVee 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, the channel has this 'Top Gear with swords' vibe, in a good way
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
Btw, as a Chinese person myself: Jian (剑) literally translates to sword but the main definition means double edged sword, whereas with dao (刀), which literally translates to knife, the main definition means single edged sword. That’s why the single edged sword in China is often called dadao (大刀), which literally translates to big (大) knife (刀).
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 Жыл бұрын
What are small double edged knives/daggers called?
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@mandowarrior123 Bishou (匕首), though I admit I never actually heard of the term before looking it up, so evidently it wasn't all that common compared to dao or jian.
@bigolbearthejammydodger6527
@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Жыл бұрын
oh thats wonderful.. so a dao is literally a messer (german for knife), wonder if weird tax laws was the reason in china too.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Not in China because dao is literally defined as being single edge where length isn't really a legal factor, whereas the messer, I believe, is more defined by the handle construction. I'd say the more comparable legal situation to the messer and knife guilds would be how "short barrel rifles" are defined in the NFA as having stocks in modern USA, so if you have a sub-16" barrel AR-15 with just the buffer tube, it's legally a pistol (not regulated by the NFA) rather than a short-barrel rifle (regulated by the NFA). That's also why the whole pistol brace thing is in legal limbo right now. There's also this monstrosity to get around the AWB from 1994 to 2004: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZSxhGeAmdWljcUsi=4psFhgN-6J7Wkm_1
@bigolbearthejammydodger6527
@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Жыл бұрын
@@gameragodzilla thanks for reply. interesting none the less.
@robertjensen1438
@robertjensen1438 Жыл бұрын
I was confident I could win the duel until my opponent swung his sword at my ankles. Alas, I was de-feeted.
@michaelcamu625
@michaelcamu625 Жыл бұрын
That was terrible 😂
@philtkaswahl2124
@philtkaswahl2124 Жыл бұрын
As a soon-to-be-father, that's going into my future dad joke arsenal.
@robertjensen1438
@robertjensen1438 Жыл бұрын
@@philtkaswahl2124 Congratulations on the future little one.
@philtkaswahl2124
@philtkaswahl2124 Жыл бұрын
@@robertjensen1438 Thank you.
@Giosuke_Giogashikata
@Giosuke_Giogashikata Жыл бұрын
Excellence at its finest, my friend
@richard_n
@richard_n Жыл бұрын
I just have to say that I've really enjoyed this series on swapping out parts of swords. It's been highly educational.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
I can imagine if guns weren't invented, there'd be Bubba Swordsmiths doing this kind of stuff like Bubba Gunsmiths already do now with guns (alongside Bubba's Pakistani cousin Ali Bubba if you look at some of the weird shit from Khyber Pass. Lotta AR/AK hybrids there).
@makisonoda7925
@makisonoda7925 Жыл бұрын
Yeah , it educational. But there’s a reason why European and Asian sword parts were not intermixed with each other. They aren’t designed to work in tandem. Although it looks interesting. Maybe it could work, maybe it does. I just prefer to keep my swords Authentic and original to the ethnic background it was made in.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@makisonoda7925 Well yeah, obviously there will be cultural differences as to why certain designs and styles came up. One thing I find fascinating is the Americans developed quick draw techniques for handguns for the same reason the Japanese developed iaijutsu. Despite the two being very different cultures, they both came up with very similar concepts for very similar reasons, to the point where there's a lot of cross-pollination between Westerns and Jidaigeki movies. That's why I always wonder if the Europeans had their own quickdraw techniques. I'd figure if two very different cultures came up with the same thing for the same reasons, then the Europeans also should've done it for their swords. As it stands, the main reason why the katana is still my favorite sword despite me thinking the longsword is better once the swords are already drawn (kenjutsu in Japanese swordsmanship) is the katana is much more developed for draw techniques, and as an American (who lives in Texas, no less), I very much place a high degree of importance on quick draw, both for practical reasons and because it's really cool. Still, there probably could be ways to combine the two, much like how there are some professionally done hybrids of the AK/AR. The Sig 556 is a gun that's very much based mechnically on the AK, but incorporates a lot of AR ergonomics.
@cmaslan
@cmaslan Жыл бұрын
Synthetic swordology
@aliesterus1.023
@aliesterus1.023 Жыл бұрын
This video entertains me so much because Nate is usually the most positive of you three, but here Nate is spouting the most vitriol and Shad and Tyrinth are just a couple of kids having fun.
@Mikael_Ore
@Mikael_Ore Жыл бұрын
Yup, very supportive of this project, hope you guys make it and have fun!
@popularopinion1
@popularopinion1 Жыл бұрын
Watching the balance of revulsion and admiration in the boys is heartwarming. Also, they should commission a purpose made version of the longtana, so it doesn't have the brass pin/epoxy issue
@racoondraws6045
@racoondraws6045 Жыл бұрын
I still believe that, this sword in particular it's not an abomination, it actually resembles a little bit to a Japanese ancient sword called tsurugi, this swords were actually double edged and iirc, were inspired by Chinese jian, so if you ask me...I'd say with a little tweaking on the hilt (like making it more centered) would make a good or at least decent sword design!
@tposingukiki
@tposingukiki Жыл бұрын
Question: what sword would be the closest one to being called “The Throngler”?
@m0-m0597
@m0-m0597 Жыл бұрын
idk but I know about the Shlongler
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn Жыл бұрын
Whipsword.
@tposingukiki
@tposingukiki Жыл бұрын
@@5peciesunkn0wn I was thinking more of an… overly dramatic Flamberge
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 Жыл бұрын
​@tposingukiki it's also really flexible so when you shake it it makes the laminated 'fwubwuwubwbwbwb" noise as it bends
@മദ്യപാനം
@മദ്യപാനം Жыл бұрын
Probably some sort of spiked khopesh
@RanOutOfChannelNames
@RanOutOfChannelNames Жыл бұрын
Oh look, Shad made a Wrongsword.
@ilovejettrooper5922
@ilovejettrooper5922 11 ай бұрын
That has no right to sound as perfect as it does.
@mrkiky
@mrkiky 10 ай бұрын
@@ilovejettrooper5922 Even better when you realize that it sounds like a Japanese person trying to pronounce "longsword" 😂
@illuminous7937
@illuminous7937 Жыл бұрын
Heyya Shad, would love to see a video where you debunk whether fighting with your Sheath/Scabbard as a secondary weapon is worthwhile in combat (To block incoming blows ect in your off hand) Excellent content as always
@dantegallardo1974
@dantegallardo1974 Жыл бұрын
That's so cool I want to see that
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ Жыл бұрын
That'd be fun to watch. hope Shad and the crew see this.
@jerryandersson4873
@jerryandersson4873 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, do not need to use a real sheet. I am sure they can make something of wood. Dunno how acessable/cheap wood is in Australia tho. I do hope they go to building material stores and not hobby stores. Are there junkyard around for scrap metal stuff? Over here we have recycling centers here and there, wich can have some amazing stuff, and if you get friendly with the owner/workers and perhaps throw in some compensation, I would imagine load of useful fun stuff could turn up over time, both wood and metal. I miss being able to work with metals and Mills and stuff.
@MylesKillis
@MylesKillis 10 ай бұрын
Um so a dual wielding good?
@mrkiky
@mrkiky 10 ай бұрын
Unless it's a metal scabbard, I don't see it. Scabbards were usually wood, lined with fur and covered in leather and obviously hollow on the inside. The wood is very thin such that you might break it if you sit on it accidentally, so I don't see it doing a good job.
@Totsy30
@Totsy30 Жыл бұрын
Shad's face at 25:04 suggests to me we might see a perfected abomination in the future. Katana hilt, longsword crossguard, and that same blade. I doubt Tyranth would be thrilled about it though lol Truly the merging of best attributes.
@josephjoestar953
@josephjoestar953 Жыл бұрын
Maybe even a pommel ( if they even can put a pommel on a katana hilt )
@jamoecw
@jamoecw Жыл бұрын
@@josephjoestar953 the longer handle acts as the pommel, as the extra length of handle adds the weight a pommel does.
@WJS774
@WJS774 Жыл бұрын
@@jamoecw The extra length of the handle in no way adds the same weight as a pommel. It's only made of wood, it is _far_ lighter than a pommel.
@jamoecw
@jamoecw Жыл бұрын
@@WJS774 depends on the handle, the tang, and the weight of the sword. the sword in the video weighed as much as a sword of comparable length with a pommel. maybe the original sword was much heavier despite being thinner, or maybe the weight of the pommel it had weighed less than you think.
@WJS774
@WJS774 Жыл бұрын
@@jamoecw Are you for real? You think that the overall weight is what the pommel is about? The total weight of the sword means _nothing._ The pommel is to control the point of balance. And it makes a big difference whether you want to admit it or not.
@Joyful_Rob
@Joyful_Rob Жыл бұрын
The dynamic of the three of you discussing your opinions is the best part of this channel. 😁
@TheMegaOnyx
@TheMegaOnyx Жыл бұрын
Stretched out gladius is what i think of when i see the sword...
@aced4fun
@aced4fun Жыл бұрын
The Shadoversity intro is still awesome and one of the few intros persisting on modern KZbin I wouldn’t change a thing :D
@dustingreene8602
@dustingreene8602 Жыл бұрын
I'd suggest centering the blade and adding a bigger tsuba. It would deal with the foward balancing and add more hand protection.
@jackson01357
@jackson01357 Жыл бұрын
I love watching Nate be so peeved that he likes it. That's a rare thing, from what I have seen - to see him be so bothered that he likes something weird that he made, or at least helped make. I haven't watched that video yet. It brings me joy 😂
@BellhenderOfficial
@BellhenderOfficial Жыл бұрын
Man I love this new content here. Every video done this year has been PLATINUM! Keep doing guys. You are the best
@IamHattman
@IamHattman Жыл бұрын
If you're going to try and make a more specific fusion of the Katana and Longsword, I'd suggest checking out the Ask Seki Sensi video where he actually tries some things with a trainer longsword. Just for the feedback from the Katana side of things. Off the top of my head, I would suggest trying to machine a mix between the cross guard and a tsuba, likely with a single quillion along the 'true' edge, a rounded central section in the style of a tsuba, but with a notch to accomidate moving to thumb-grip. I think that manages to adjust the guard for the benefits both camps have prefered while also addressing some of potential problems.
@drunkardhu6517
@drunkardhu6517 Жыл бұрын
3:08 Sir Shad, you got it right on the first try. Jian is what we call double edged blade in Chinese. And this particular design with 8 surfaces (or whatever the proper term) is an design from the Bronze Age. Hence the Jian is smaller because blade made of bronze cannot go too long or to large.
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 Жыл бұрын
One hand on a 2 hander gives that extra reach when you need it. Plus it frees up the other hand for grapple, pocket sand, whatever 😂 Incidentally, the jian is typically used with mostly one hand 😂
@rohdri
@rohdri 11 ай бұрын
The typical jian also has both a shorter hilt and blade, and is also lighter by a bit. .7-.9 kilos instead of 1.2 kilos. Also, they typically had a pommel, and a different hand guard. Apples to banana/orange hybrid.
@DrahcirII
@DrahcirII 2 ай бұрын
I'm now adding pocket sand to my arsenal XD
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 Жыл бұрын
I love Nate's character development in this lol
@mansfieldtime
@mansfieldtime Жыл бұрын
The next abomination, orientate the cross guard to be perpendicular to the blade at 90*. It sounds like a horror project.
@alexmashkin863
@alexmashkin863 Жыл бұрын
You'll have to invent a completely new construction of the cross guard for that, or just cut quillons off and weld them back the other way
@algomez8563
@algomez8563 Жыл бұрын
@@alexmashkin863 This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas. Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder. I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.
@FlexxibleFree
@FlexxibleFree Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah!
@Notmyname1593
@Notmyname1593 Жыл бұрын
Could be a helluva stabber.
@commode7x
@commode7x Жыл бұрын
So, like what DemolitionRanch did?
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Жыл бұрын
Right now i have that image in my head of Shad, Tyranth and the rest of the crew going to a toy store and pretty much cleaning out their stack of pool noodles for sword testing. But the sword has something weirdly fascinating about it. I would like to see it with other kinds of tsuba designs, like more rectengular ones. Those exist, after all. This mixing of sword hilts and blades seems to be worthwhile from both a looks and an efficient use aspect.
@FortuneFavoursTheBold
@FortuneFavoursTheBold Жыл бұрын
Shad is getting better at this, which is a testament of how much one can improve by actually using swords and reflecting on the usage afterwards. I have cut with katana with back-edge techniques like zwerchau and schielhau by temporarily reversing the blade and holding down on the grip while placing the thumb on the grip instead of thumbing the flat of the blade. It works. Slightly awkward but Shad is correct here that on a well balanced nimble sword like many longswords, temporarily having 1 inch point of balance further away may help the cut gain more momentum thus letting the mass of the sword doing more work for you. When you are done with the cut, you immediately hold back onto the the part just below the guard to gain more control. It works with a tip heavy sword like katana, it definitely works with a nimbler blade like the longsword blade (more profile taper and more distal taper).
@jjthejetplane8965
@jjthejetplane8965 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, the group dynamic is great with you guys. You all seem like fantastic people.
@ethanwalsh5441
@ethanwalsh5441 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video and I’m honestly with shad on this. I do wonder if this particular unique sword’s asymmetrical blade may offer different reverse edge cut feelings depending on which side you use in the reverse. I also fully agree with building a sword with a katana styled handle built into a longsword blade profile like this.
@JoyBoyAlter
@JoyBoyAlter Жыл бұрын
Every time I think I'm prepared for Shad's sudden increases in volume, but every time I get my ears blown out lmao. My day is never complete without it
@algomez8563
@algomez8563 Жыл бұрын
The Hanwei Tinker swords came out around the early 2010s sometimes they snapped at the "shoulders" a possibility they were actually afraid. Although newer blades tend to break less.
@OmegaB3N
@OmegaB3N Жыл бұрын
Add the cross guard, MAKE THE KONGSWORD!!!!
@Kraleck
@Kraleck Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the wielder's affinity for strength, speed, defense, or balance pairs better with the handle than the blade. The tsuka of a katana is advantageous in deft hands to allow more fluidity of motion than a hilt with a crossguard, allowing them to strike rapidly (much like Tyranth shows). A strong wielder would prefer the opposite, using a blade's crossguard with a strong grip to brace against an attack then following up with leverage to affect an opponent's balance. Very good show of skills, gentlemen!
@Uncephalized
@Uncephalized Жыл бұрын
Nah, the type of guard has little if anything to do with how fast or fluidly you can move the sword. That has more to do with weight, balance, strength and skill of the user.
@JanterCyrano
@JanterCyrano Жыл бұрын
13:34 the instant regret of success....
@mga149
@mga149 Жыл бұрын
Finding this sword very fascinating. I'd come up the same concept (a light, fast longsword blade with tachi tsuba) as the weapon for a DnD Monk Kensai character a few months ago. I thought it was just a completely rule of cool fantasy idea, but it seems to performs way better than I thought it would. I love how much Nate HATES how much he likes it.
@Smooth_Lime_Nine
@Smooth_Lime_Nine Жыл бұрын
I love to think that at some point in the future Nate will have an 80’s style flash back and a faded shad will echo softly in his ears “feel the blade” 😂
@Maninawig
@Maninawig Жыл бұрын
Hey Shad and crew, now that Tyranth is making swords, could you guys make/discuss Antonio Banderas' sword in 13th Warrior? Grinding down longsword into a scimitar sounds like a horrible idea, but I would love to hear all the issues one might have with this
@kenwalker5384
@kenwalker5384 Жыл бұрын
I think the real takeaway from these experiments is that there's a reason for there being so many styles, and sizes of swords is to cater to personal preference!
@reeceemms1643
@reeceemms1643 Жыл бұрын
Day something of asking for a video on the misconceptions of Medieval weddings. Such as the engagement (even though I know it was done by the parents), What they did to celebrate, and any interest information. I then what to know how these can be incorporated into fantasy stories and TTRPGs. Especially since I recently read my fantasy book where I do touch on marriage a bit. These being a Royal wedding set up, the mention of a marriage, and an actual interrupted wedding scene. Another thing I want to know is what actually happened to a princess of a kingdom if thar kingdom was taken. Because in my story the main character is forced into marrying the main bad guy. I don’t actually know how accurate that actually is to history though
@mrt5069
@mrt5069 Жыл бұрын
I feel like i can listen to Shads arguing about swords for hours.
@tmvega8167
@tmvega8167 Жыл бұрын
Kinda looks like a chinese sword
@lexmarovsky6667
@lexmarovsky6667 Жыл бұрын
Why did these Asians dislike crossguards so much...
@lopezroilans.8384
@lopezroilans.8384 Жыл бұрын
​@@lexmarovsky6667probably material issues, and/or design issues at the time
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@lexmarovsky6667Not sure about Chinese swords, but I think the reason why Japanese swords had the small tsuba was so it’d get caught less on stuff during a speed draw (iaijutsu). I know when Seki Sensei tried out the longsword, it got caught on stuff a few times despite him praising the extra hand protection. As far as I know, there’s no equivalent to iaijutsu for European swords. Much the same way a lot of handguns modified for quick draw will have all their edges smoothed out for the sake of a faster and smoother draw. Sometimes they’d go so far as to remove the front sight entirely, making it far less accurate at long range but a much smoother draw since nothing would snag.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle Жыл бұрын
​@@gameragodzillaI feel like it probably wasn't a purposeful omission like you imply. I more imagine that once the "I don't wanna cut my own hand while stabbing" bit was figured out, they were satisfied and didn't think twice about it. Much the same way as the west never thinking "I should optimize a sword for quick drawing" Don't feel the need to change, and you probably won't.
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla Жыл бұрын
@@1stCallipostle Well there are still reasons why they went with some particular design, and even the Japanese did modify the nodachi and tachi into the eventual katanas in later periods when there were more sword carrying on foot and swordsmanship became more self defense oriented than battle.
@sunilpermaul7876
@sunilpermaul7876 Жыл бұрын
I think this raises an overall question of, "What happens if you could add the optimal handle (for the user) to a blade?"
@lukerogers9348
@lukerogers9348 Жыл бұрын
I love how defending Nate is when arguing his dislikes for the sword, like he secretly likes it lol
@ultrajn
@ultrajn Жыл бұрын
I want to see two handed saex and how its going cut and handle.
@andreas_rr
@andreas_rr Жыл бұрын
i think Lon(g)ken would be pretty fitting as a name. Long is obvious, "ken" basically means "sword" in japanese and is the go to designation when talking about double edged swords in Japan. Also the pronounciation is pretty smooth/neat imo. Idk if i'd write it with or without "g", but if it's with, i'd still keep it silent.
@Hei_Darkfire
@Hei_Darkfire Жыл бұрын
I like the Ken part for sword. But we need a new beginning. Something to mean long, but hopefully something that pairs good with the Ken part of the name.
@mrcheese5383
@mrcheese5383 Жыл бұрын
Klong
@sakesaurus
@sakesaurus Жыл бұрын
If you write it with a g the aussies read it as lonjen. Which sucks, i like to avoid such stuf. Although the chinese read this (corresponding) hanzi through j, but that might be reading too much into things..
@andreas_rr
@andreas_rr Жыл бұрын
@@GerdLPluu not bad actually 😂😂😂
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 Жыл бұрын
'Ken' literally means double edged sword in japanese, whereas '-tō' or katana means single edged (tō, katana, '-nata' or 'waki-' are all readings of 刀 character) possibly knife like in chinese. So ken is sword but katana are 'knives' in a sense. I like rongu sword myself.
@Ghostly_FilmProduction
@Ghostly_FilmProduction Жыл бұрын
Next is the Axe handle with sword blade, and vice-versa
@ankokuraven
@ankokuraven Жыл бұрын
You have inspired me to try to make my own abomination. Funny enough, i want to use the same blade.
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 Жыл бұрын
I've been "inspired" to years ago. Its just that when it comes to any form of trade my competitors have somehow managed to get it so that I have no chance of getting a foothold and beginning a profession 20 years before I was even born. So I have to but their products, rough it up a little then finish it with a file, and that way I can lie and say I forged it myself.
@algomez8563
@algomez8563 Жыл бұрын
This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas. Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder. I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.
@skiveman
@skiveman Жыл бұрын
I have a name for the sword - Shad's Shame. A cursed name for a cursed sword.
@NickCombs
@NickCombs Жыл бұрын
The longtana looks to be overall better when compared to the longsword. It's got a faster tip and better reach with the longer handle. Even longer when wielded one-handed (looking at you, Shad). The addition of a crossguard (but not a pommel, sorry Skal) would be nice, but given the other benefits of speed and reach I don't think your hand is at as much risk overall. So that detriment seems like more of a wash.
@dirkmcgurk1
@dirkmcgurk1 Жыл бұрын
I want to see this with a cross guard and a better centered hilt.
@Fallenangel_85
@Fallenangel_85 Жыл бұрын
It's actually not that unusual to have such a sword design, it's been done historically. The korean Sain-Geom is smaller, but it combines the double edge with a tsuba like guard.
@vinvirusx
@vinvirusx Жыл бұрын
"Sagishi" would be the perfect name for that sword. Japanese for "imposter," imagine someone having it on the battlefield like, "oh a katana... wait a minute..."
@itschoiboi
@itschoiboi Жыл бұрын
For posterity, We need a build video with all the things you hate in a sword. Whether it be the balance is off, the handle being uncomfortable, or the shape of the blade itself, etc...
@5peciesunkn0wn
@5peciesunkn0wn Жыл бұрын
Ah yes. The "Shadiversity Hateful Blade"
@itschoiboi
@itschoiboi Жыл бұрын
Excellent name 😂@@5peciesunkn0wn
@michaelcamu625
@michaelcamu625 Жыл бұрын
Is there any chance of Shad playing Chivalry 2 on Knights Watch? I can just imagine him saying the crenellations aren’t tall enough as his he’s getting decapitated by a Dane axe.
@SukacitaYeremia
@SukacitaYeremia Жыл бұрын
Seems to me like this has been the toughest sword testing video to digest. I wonder if there can be any way to advance the discussion further and help me understand it better...
@generalcellron2962
@generalcellron2962 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos just a thought for a name for it, Knight's Anatak (Katana backwards could also be used for the other sword maybe 🤔) and maybe tyranth should make a fusion of a Suba and a cross guard maybe 🤔🧐😁
@dragortius9335
@dragortius9335 Жыл бұрын
Really good video and it does make me wonder if the long tana and/or katanar (if that's the name) couldn't be upgraded FURTHER, hear me out Double bladed long sword blade: ookatana handle + POMMEL, and a Tsuba/cross guard HYBRID (Don't know if something like that already exists). Katana wraps + pins and try to incorporate the endurance of the longsword handle into the handle. Edit: ok, sorry, you guys talked about it at the end, more or less, so, YEAH, if you do this, oh boy, happy fan be happy and more fan.
@magnusliten8807
@magnusliten8807 Жыл бұрын
FEEL THE BLADE
@radimnechut519
@radimnechut519 Жыл бұрын
Don't know. I really like the look and, from what you guys have said, the feel of both. The falchion kimitana looks like a more _reliable_ sword, in that it has the better cross-guard and a good balance. The langana looks fun and a bit like a _glass cannon_ without the better guard, but being superior in seemingly any other way.
@alexderkombinator3385
@alexderkombinator3385 Жыл бұрын
Cool combination! Katana and longsword!👍
@MattWinkler1
@MattWinkler1 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you guys wearing medieval helmets / gauntlets as protection against sword damage in the tests. It's what they're made for!
@nikolastheterrible
@nikolastheterrible Жыл бұрын
The Bastards of Two Nations sword.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a Khopesh Blade with a Crossguard Hilt? Imagine a Dane Axe with a Katana Hilt? Imagine a Halberd Head on a Hand and a Half Hilt? Finally, imagine a "Crow's Beak" with a One-Handed Haft? (Edit more ideas): A Basket Hilt on a Mace, A Spatha Hilt on a Claymore, A Mace Haft on a Spatha Blade, A Double-Edged Scimitar on a Rapier Hilt, A Scimitar Hilt on a Rapier Blade.
@GranWarlorckEnmaryu
@GranWarlorckEnmaryu Жыл бұрын
@Morrigankasa570 or a Gladiushilt/guard with a khopesh blade
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle Жыл бұрын
I feel like that last one exists to some degree. A comically long Katana handle with a Dane axe head though... That would be a sight
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Жыл бұрын
@@GranWarlorckEnmaryu That would be neat.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 Жыл бұрын
@@1stCallipostle Yep, and what makes it even more interesting is it expands things beyond just swords made into "Abominations". Another idea I thought of after my first comment. Was a Spear Haft with a Kopis on the end. (Kopis is the Greek Version of a Khopesh).
@ace_of_laze
@ace_of_laze Жыл бұрын
i am with Nate on this one. cursed and soulless
@williamr.s.5693
@williamr.s.5693 Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed you often forget to change the tags from the previous video, maybe double check it next time ;) #anime #boomerang Anyways really cool testing on the longtana! Or you could call it the abomitana… or abomisword… or abomina…
@CapnMadelyn
@CapnMadelyn Жыл бұрын
idea! combine both guards and bowl the katana one into the crossguard
@Megabidoof83
@Megabidoof83 Жыл бұрын
If you're already making abominations, why not make a tsuba, that is a bit bigger then normal tsuba's, with openings so you can finger or thumb the blade but still retain the classic look of the katana hilt? (on a long sword or katana)
@scottcarroll3017
@scottcarroll3017 Жыл бұрын
Name suggestion. Swordy Mcswordface.
@billysmith5409
@billysmith5409 Жыл бұрын
The “Longtana” looks like something I would build on Calimascil. I want to hate but I can’t.
@filin_-vn4fj
@filin_-vn4fj Жыл бұрын
bros just made the nail from hollow knight
@FireCrack83
@FireCrack83 Жыл бұрын
I Just wanted to Go to sleep. Now i have to watch a Video about one of shads weird sword dreams😅
@theoldefirme4500
@theoldefirme4500 Жыл бұрын
22:41 They didn't know that katana blades are designed to be stiff i.e. less felt vibration and longsword blades are designed to be flexible i.e. more felt vibration...
@EksaStelmere
@EksaStelmere Жыл бұрын
Once more, I'm gonna suggest Longutō (ロング刀) and Longuken (ロング剣) for the name. As with before, I'd personally go with the latter, but since it's TECHNICALLY using a Katana handle, the former might work even if it's double-edged.
@lildragon6415
@lildragon6415 Жыл бұрын
Ken makes more sense because it is double edged.
@EksaStelmere
@EksaStelmere Жыл бұрын
@@lildragon6415 Pretty much, yeah, but it's something of a meme, so doesn't matter too much.
@NamedMyTaco
@NamedMyTaco Жыл бұрын
Longtana is the BEST name! Nate is a Longtana prodigy! 😂😂😂
@robertblair3606
@robertblair3606 6 ай бұрын
I would call it the Bastana
@gallendugall8913
@gallendugall8913 Жыл бұрын
Might I offer a term to describe bladed weapons that are not historical, "stabulator"
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord Жыл бұрын
how does one stabulate?
@Sam-lf3hn
@Sam-lf3hn Жыл бұрын
What about a "hackulator" or a "sliceulator"
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 Жыл бұрын
How about McStabby?
@ehta2413
@ehta2413 Жыл бұрын
Ship it to Finland, I have a perfect burial place for that abomination on top of ancient fell in middle of nowhere. All that needs to be done is to drill a hole in a sacred square rock, put the sword in and fill the edges of the hole with pebble cement to prevent people from pulling it off the rock. Other option would a small remote waterfall in Northern Norway that has been used as a sacrificial site by local indigenous people in middle ages, the rock altar in there is still bit rusted from all the blood :D
@FrozenElysium
@FrozenElysium Жыл бұрын
Just call it the "God cursed me with the gift of sight" sword
@Hanlix14313
@Hanlix14313 Жыл бұрын
Love the content and would love to see more
@harveyflo9760
@harveyflo9760 Жыл бұрын
now as foolish as it sounds i would like to see a great sword hilt on a short sword or arming sword blade to see how much of an abomination it would be
@joycallender6086
@joycallender6086 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, gentlemen!
@FaceEatingOwl
@FaceEatingOwl Жыл бұрын
This is like Top Gear, but for swords 👌⚔️✨🤘❤️
@scottcarroll3017
@scottcarroll3017 Жыл бұрын
Name suggestion. Gary
@decay79
@decay79 Жыл бұрын
Am loving the look of the Longtana.. That it performs as well as it does is somewhat of a surprise, but a pleasant one..
@FaceEatingOwl
@FaceEatingOwl Жыл бұрын
😂 The ribbing is real.
@davidhim3527
@davidhim3527 Жыл бұрын
I just love Nate's reaction every time was a disappointed "God damnit, it did great..."
@TheoryMaK15-255
@TheoryMaK15-255 Жыл бұрын
Godspeed SHAD!!! ⚔🗡🤺🛡🔰🦾
@mariovwcardoso5970
@mariovwcardoso5970 5 ай бұрын
I'd think it could have a different, maybe even unique, type of cross-guard to maximize it's unique features (for example, the leverage for back cuts.
@lordwarryl5712
@lordwarryl5712 Жыл бұрын
I don't even want to watch this video... But for you guys, I will support you in everything you guys do.... Even its unforgivable...
@jierdareisa4313
@jierdareisa4313 8 ай бұрын
I love ALL Shadiversity videos!!!! ❤
@Psycomega1
@Psycomega1 Жыл бұрын
Knightana, for my suggestion.
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
There are certain longswords that so have side rings or more complex hilts which do address the exposed thumb issue.
@RaewCZ
@RaewCZ Жыл бұрын
Longtana is basically the type of sword I like esthetically the most, that's why I always look for it in any videogame XD
@ultimatedrift8549
@ultimatedrift8549 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see you guys talk about the jian soooooo bad! It's my favorite sword of all time
@RighteousBeardArts
@RighteousBeardArts Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Shad is late to the Chinese sword discussion
@riftalope
@riftalope Жыл бұрын
Damnit! I had JUST sat down and started the video, and Nate up 'n reads my mind! Took me a bit to stop the Twilight Zone music and giggling. Had to rewind.
@Sp33LzZz
@Sp33LzZz Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tyranth, I will now play a D&D game as a barbarian who purposefully wields two handed swords in one hand and refuses to do otherwise. Brilliant idea!
@nathancox7412
@nathancox7412 Жыл бұрын
Second time now. This reminds me and looks the way a lightsaber is being portrayed being used. Sort that handle out a little better and its a weapon that acts a lot like the way light sabers are portrayed. This is a Proto Saber.
@nathancox7412
@nathancox7412 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys get someone on your channel that trains with those SW combat sabers and get one of them to give it ago. the scifi nerd in me need to see this revisited.
@williampickett5875
@williampickett5875 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@algomez8563
@algomez8563 Жыл бұрын
The Hanwei Tinker swords came out around the early 2010s sometimes they snapped at the "shoulders" a possibility they were actually afraid. Although newer blades tend to break less. Now this handle was not dedicated to this sword they just stuck the tang in a Katana handle, this is why it is off center.
@RBLXSkilledSniper1
@RBLXSkilledSniper1 Жыл бұрын
Wait what about thrusting...? I've only seen slices thus far.
@adamwest8256
@adamwest8256 Жыл бұрын
Wish you could have been a guest on Administrative Results! They were testing english long bowes against armor.
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