Shadwell's Three Stations

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Jago Hazzard

Jago Hazzard

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@SamAronow
@SamAronow Жыл бұрын
Shadwell by name, Shad Very Well by reputation.
@fredslipknot9
@fredslipknot9 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@I967
@I967 Жыл бұрын
Exactly same thought went thru my head as I listened to Jago say "Shadwell" again and again.
@jyw0000
@jyw0000 Жыл бұрын
An absolute Shad
@alfsallander3400
@alfsallander3400 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the regular end bit of "You are the X to my Y", in fact I like it so much so henceforth I will pause just before that and make a guess what the catchphrase will be. For this Shadwellian tour I guessed "You are the octagonal ventilation to my steam (train/operation)". Looking forward to many more attempts. Cheers from Sweden.
@comicus01
@comicus01 Жыл бұрын
I try to begin all of my top level comments on his videos with a reciprocal phrase!
@LastofAvari
@LastofAvari Жыл бұрын
I like when Jago says Cheerio at the end :3
@BarryAllenMagic
@BarryAllenMagic Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh Shadwell - the original old Shadwell Station (in Watney Street) being my first starting point, as a kid in the early 1970's, to explore the delights of the London Underground. Oh those wonderful red 1938 stock trains and stepping down into them from the high Shadwell platforms. What I could never make out was why there was a large waiting room, adjacent to the ticket office, at ground level? You'd have had to be an Olympic athlete to make it down countless steps, in order to get onto the platform before the train doors shut! Shadwell was pretty unique - I don't think I'd ever visited any other station whereby water ran so freely down the walls, creating a wonderfully decorative green slime. Oh such happy memories from when life was so much simpler - but oh so much more fun.
@surreygoldprospector576
@surreygoldprospector576 Жыл бұрын
Ah... 1970s Shadwell, Rotherhithe, and Wapping. Where the water features came for free!
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 Жыл бұрын
Having waiting rooms next to the ticket office was a common practice as were quieter and trains would be announced by the staff before they arrived allowing passengers time to get to the platforms. The Station Master would have a repeater set of signal bells in his office/house and knew the codes. These stations were built when train travel was more leisurely and even small quiet ones would have several staff (men and boys) each doing a specific job.
@bertspeggly4428
@bertspeggly4428 Жыл бұрын
We would go "slumming" in the late 'fifties round the docks area on Sunday afternoons. I remember the water features at Shadwell and Wapping very well. Don't remember 1938 stock, that must have happened later.
@rayfisher3921
@rayfisher3921 Жыл бұрын
The 1938 stock were tube trains, so you must have the type designation wrong. And I'm puzzled why you would have to step down. I wonder if you are remembering a different station as at Shadwell there would have been sub-surface rolling stock and no step down. But I can well believe Shadwell was the place for home-grown green slime.
@BarryAllenMagic
@BarryAllenMagic Жыл бұрын
@Ray Fisher Hi Ray. From the best of my memory; and whilst admittedly not an expert on rolling stock; they were definitely the smaller, red underground trains, with green painted interiors. In later years, awful (1962?) Metropolitan Line trains took to the East London Line - many still had the Met Line map showing, rather than being replaced with the East London Line route. As for the trains being lower than the platform - on that point, I'm absolutely certain. Am I remembering a different station than Shadwell (in Watney Street) - all of a 2 minute walk from where I was born, lived and grew up? Seriously? Even as a young child, I'd get taken by tube from Shadwell to Whitechapel market most Saturdays - as a toddler, it was more of a jump down rather than a (later) step down. I take it as you have such an in-depth knowledge of Shadwell Station (from the late 1960's - 1970's) there are probably other things I've got wrong too? Maybe I was just imagining the two phone boxes in the booking hall? Maybe there weren't toilets in the waiting room area? I must have just imagined the wooden bench, that was situated halfway up/down the longest staircase on the Southbound platform? I'm sure that you'll let me know.
@LordMayorOfStepney
@LordMayorOfStepney Жыл бұрын
I was born and lived very close to the station. Originally Shadwell was the eastern part of what we now call Wapping. South of the Highway between St Katherine docks, Ratcliffe and the Thames. Shadwell was the part east of Garnet St. The easternmost London dock (still there) is known as Shadwell basin and the nearby riverside park, King Edward memorial park is known as Shadwell park. The famous ‘Prospect Of Whitby’ pub would’ve been in Shadwell. There is also the famous church, St Paul’s Shadwell now appearing to reside in Wapping. The church famous for connections with John Wesley and Captain Cook. As the station served Shadwell and was a short walk, the area around the station eventually became known as Shadwell and anything south of the Highway considered Wapping.
@roadhog6
@roadhog6 Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@evilutionltd
@evilutionltd Жыл бұрын
9:15 "there are no step free access to either station". There is a lift at the West end of Shadwell DLR. (I've been a track worker on DLR for 20 years). 1:20 the tower to the left of the track was apparently a winch tower for the line that used to branch off there before it was closed and abandoned.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Жыл бұрын
As for the origin of the Shadwell name: In the 13th century, the area was a low-lying marsh known as Scadflet, from the Anglo-Saxon fleot, meaning a shallow creek or bay. Because a spring by a church dedicated to St Chad filled a nearby well, a false etymology changed the name into Chadwelle. This changed further into Shadwell. Historically a hamlet of the Manor and Ancient Parish of Stepney, it became a parish in its own right in 1670. the area of the Hamlet and Parish included areas south of Cable Street including Shadwell Basin and the King Edward Memorial Park.
@alanmoss3603
@alanmoss3603 Жыл бұрын
This is how you make a KZbin video! No random StockFootage of beautiful people drinking coffee in slow-motion or staring wistfully out of windows as a Japanese Bullet-train goes past! Just proper filming of relevant material. This is genuine filmmaking! Well done!
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alanmoss3603
@alanmoss3603 Жыл бұрын
@@JagoHazzard Although throw in a couple of cat videos and Jenna Ortega dancing and it'll be money in the bank!🤣🤣😂
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 Жыл бұрын
"people drinking coffee in slow-motion" That's the thing about drinking or smoking in dining cars - time keeps dragging by.
@gilbertharding5041
@gilbertharding5041 Жыл бұрын
The name Shadwell always makes me think of John Sparke's Welsh poet from Naked Video.
@aprilsmith1166
@aprilsmith1166 Жыл бұрын
@Gilbert Harding Me too! 😂😂😂
@oldgittarist
@oldgittarist Жыл бұрын
@@aprilsmith1166 Shadwell here!
@BassandoForte
@BassandoForte Жыл бұрын
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@gilbertharding5041
@gilbertharding5041 Жыл бұрын
"Shadwell, you are a complete bard. For most people this is an honour, but for you it is an abbreviation "
@chrisamies2141
@chrisamies2141 Жыл бұрын
Same, although I remember him from the 'alternative' performance circuit. Still get 'Shad-WELL!' in a Welsh accent.
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin Жыл бұрын
Amazingly, Shadwell East London Line Station was closed on Sundays for many years, with Sunday opening not commencing until 1989. There was an overlap since the DLR station opened in 1987, trains called here daily, but no interchange with the East London Line was possible on Sundays!!
@marienbad2
@marienbad2 Жыл бұрын
One thing I love about this channel is the great black and white photos and film footage you are able to find relating to the video. Also, Shadwell sounds like a name from an Alan Bennett play. And now I have Ian Hislop's impersonation of Bennett in my head!
@CheshireTomcat68
@CheshireTomcat68 Жыл бұрын
He's the old witch hunter in Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman!
@camenbert5837
@camenbert5837 Жыл бұрын
And the Naked Video character, who had a girlfriend with a welsh motobike - a Rhonda 500...
@NickyMitchell85
@NickyMitchell85 Жыл бұрын
Yes 🙌, I agree ☝️. I like 👍 the vintage black & white photos too.
@anthonydefreitas6006
@anthonydefreitas6006 Жыл бұрын
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@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 Жыл бұрын
Pedant here I'm afraid; "doubling" of track (2:20) usually refers to turning a single bidirectional line into two one-way lines. But if you have double track and then add an extra pair of running lines to allow fast trains to overtake slow ones in the same direction, it's referred to as quadrupling.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart Жыл бұрын
Archpedant here: In BR days, we used the term "dequadrification" for the reduction of a four-line stretch of railway into a two line stretch. So reinstating this would be "requadrification", and newbuild would be "quadrification"?
@MrTheErnie
@MrTheErnie Жыл бұрын
I like quadrificating
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart Жыл бұрын
@@MrTheErnie quadrifying?
@marcelwiszowaty1751
@marcelwiszowaty1751 Жыл бұрын
I've changed between the DLR and Overground at Shadwell on more than one occasion. Not a problem for me because I don't mind walking and it's certainly a useful interchange... but a "proper" connection would be very interesting. Perhaps in my lifetime... who knows? Nice vid as always, Mr Hazzard!
@annother3350
@annother3350 Жыл бұрын
did you touch out though?
@marcelwiszowaty1751
@marcelwiszowaty1751 Жыл бұрын
@@annother3350 Yes... but I'll admit that I have on occasion forgotten to do so. 😐
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
Maybe an elevated 'walking moveway' (Copyright Geoff Marshall!) between the two stations would do the trick? I'm not familiar with the area though...
@ArunKumarD
@ArunKumarD 10 ай бұрын
Is there a lift in both stations?
@thefareplayer2254
@thefareplayer2254 9 ай бұрын
I find it annoying that when exiting the DLR to transfer to the Overground, one needs to go to the other side of the station building to enter. I know it’s designed this way to make it easier to go from the Overground to the DLR, but it adds like a whole 30 seconds when trying to get to the (often less frequent) Overground.
@rowanmorgan457
@rowanmorgan457 Жыл бұрын
Shadwell saved my bacon when the DLR to Lewisham fell over.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican Жыл бұрын
The similarly sized Glen Rock, NJ (only around 12,000 residents) also at one point had three stations, but now it's just two. Glen Rock-Boro Hall on the Bergen County Line and Glen Rock-Main Line on the Main Line on different tracks about 300 meters from each other! So the question is...why? The Bergen County and Main Lines pretty much share the same track between Hoboken and Suffern, but they split off from each other north of Secaucus before joining again at Ridgewood. The Glen Rock stations are the last before they join together. Glen Rock as a borough was formed in 1894 during the boroughitis phenomenon that swept Bergen County, but the stations predate the borough's creation. Glen Rock-Main Line (originally Rock Road) opened in 1848 as part of the Paterson-Ramapo Railroad (connecting Paterson to Suffern), which connected the Erie Railroad to the Paterson & Hudson River Railroad. The Erie would later take over Paterson-Ramapo and opened a second Glen Rock station on the line called Ferndale in 1894 (later closed). Glen Rock-Boro Hall on the Bergen County Line on the other hand opened in 1881 as Paramus...even though Paramus is six miles east. It was renamed to its current name in 1891.
@artursdobrecovs
@artursdobrecovs Жыл бұрын
09:12 the DLR station at Shadwell is fully step-free (from street to train) and has a blue blob on the Tube map to reflect that. You can somewhat see the arrow pointing towards the lift on the sign on the pole at 08:37, towards the top left
@RussellChapman99
@RussellChapman99 Жыл бұрын
The lift is often out of order.
@Ibis117
@Ibis117 Жыл бұрын
@@RussellChapman99 Or full of schoolchildren too exhausted to use the stairs.
@NSBarnett
@NSBarnett Жыл бұрын
That idea (1:03) of not stopping is BRILLIANT. You get to a station, get on board the carriage that is sat at the platform; when a train is approaching, the doors will close; then the train arrives and pushes the carriage along; you have to then make your way to the carriage that will be the last carriage in time for it arriving at the station you want to get out at; at that station, it will get detached, stop, and the doors will open for you to get out, and for other commuters to get in, and catch the next train. Railway engineers and enthusiasts! Why didn't this catch on?
@josseppp
@josseppp Жыл бұрын
sounds quite fun, but also impractical.
@NSBarnett
@NSBarnett Жыл бұрын
Yes,@@josseppp possibly, in the nineteenth century, but today, with computers etc., etc. not impractical, I would suggest. Each carriage would display the station is was due to be detached at; you board a stationery carriage, when the train arrives and picks you up, you walk down to the right one and take your seat. Your journey will be non-stop!
@eechauch5522
@eechauch5522 25 күн бұрын
You do realize the train still has to slow down very significantly at each station to do this drop off/ pick up stunt? You can’t be running full speed into a stationary carriage. So the time advantage between doing this and just simply stopping is probably very close to nonexistent. Additionally this creates a lot of people needing to walk around within the train, only really makes sense if the stations are all somewhat similarly used and is very error prone with people ending up at the wrong station because of error or the train simply being full and then not being able to reach the correct carriage in time. On very short journey you’d have to cross the entire train in a matter of minutes because you’d start at the very front and you’d need to get to the very last carriage. It all seems kind of messy. What is used sometimes here in Germany is multiple units being coupled together and then heading into different directions/ leaving one behind at a station along the way. I know that DB also used to run services with „Kurswagen“, where each carriage could have a different destination and you might be pulled by different locomotives over the course of you journey without having to switch trains. But in the end, running easy to operate and understand services frequently with fast accelerating trains is just better then running very complex operations which might be nice for individual users but worse for the system.
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk Жыл бұрын
Good video, Jago. Shows perfectly the infamous 'DLR Wobble' on the rolling stock! Apparently, the new stock is supposed to greatly reduced the amount of sideways movement on the service :)
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
Will that allow them to serve coffee and tea to passengers I wonder? 😀
@comicus01
@comicus01 Жыл бұрын
What's a leisurely train ride without a little wobble and some clickity clack?
@ollie3x10_8
@ollie3x10_8 Жыл бұрын
I change at Shadwell around once a week, interesting to know the history, two things: - There is *almost* step free interchange, except for getting the last few meters to the overground platform. - The road outside is being narrowed to a single lane of traffic, and the pedestrian crossing widened to make interchange easier.
@UK_Canuck
@UK_Canuck Жыл бұрын
I used to drive the 100 bus between Shadwell and Elephant & Castle. Our Shadwell terminus/stand was in front of St George's Town Hall in Cable Street (which runs pretty much parallel to the line). It was only when the old form of traction was mentioned that I put the two together. I thank you.
@msg5507
@msg5507 Жыл бұрын
Have a rummage through Jago's back catalogue and treat yourself to a viewing of The Battle of Cable Street.
@rolandayers6726
@rolandayers6726 Жыл бұрын
@@msg5507 And if you're in the area, it's well worth taking a look at the extraordinary mural depicting the event, located at the Cable Street entrance to St George's Gardens.
@sianwarwick633
@sianwarwick633 6 сағат бұрын
​@rolandayers6726 yes it is
@keith800
@keith800 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another enlightening video as ever , its amazing how East London has turned around from its Cockney past (a shame in some ways) as teenagers we did have a slightly different pronunciation of the name of Shadwell 😀.
@juliansadler6263
@juliansadler6263 Жыл бұрын
Yes in 1987 down the stairs from the DLR and down the street to the Metropolitan Line as it was. And the Terriors were named for their barking sound when starting. Nothing to do with the Thames Tunnel.
@robertmclaren3625
@robertmclaren3625 Жыл бұрын
I literally just visited Shadwell for the first time yesterday, making the connection from the DLR to the East London line, and then Jago releases a video on it. What a treat!
@Ibis117
@Ibis117 Жыл бұрын
There's definitely a lift to the DLR platform, I went up in it on Friday last week. It's at the extreme Western end of the platform.
@stevesaul7975
@stevesaul7975 Жыл бұрын
Correct Salad Dodger, an unusual factual error for you Mr Hazzard. The DLR station does have step-free access. Otherwise a great video as always.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
I was about to comment it would be strange for _any_ DLR station to lack step-free access, since they were built recently enough for it to be a design consideration from day 0. I’m not surprised some are hard to find for ambulatory folks though.
@KasabianFan44
@KasabianFan44 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was literally just wondering “isn’t *every* DLR station step-free?…”.
@davidwong9230
@davidwong9230 Жыл бұрын
Building on top of the station’s ventilation shaft…getting ideas above my station
@comicus01
@comicus01 Жыл бұрын
Jago, you are the out of station interchange to my repurposed railways. At 0:12 at the beginning of the video, talk about an almost hidden entrance. Barely visible from down the street! I know they repurposed old viaducts and built it on a budget, but that is hardly visible until you are almost right there. And great catch at 2:22 of the faster train passing the DLR train!
@MrSloika
@MrSloika Жыл бұрын
The main reason I watch your videos is because it shows the ordinary bits of London. I find the ordinary parts of a city, the areas where the natives go about their daily lives, more interesting than the usual tourist pap.
@jamesgibson5606
@jamesgibson5606 Жыл бұрын
The videos are always welcome, I was trying to recall the comedy series in the 80s where one of the main characters was called Shadwell but it isn't easy to remember.
@webchimp
@webchimp Жыл бұрын
Always makes me think of Good Omens.
@bentilbury2002
@bentilbury2002 Жыл бұрын
He was in Naked Video I think l.
@Tevildo
@Tevildo Жыл бұрын
@@bentilbury2002 Yes, Shadwell was from _Naked Video._ Not to be confused with Denzil from _Absolutely,_ a very similar character played by the same actor.
@MyButlerNowRidesTheTube
@MyButlerNowRidesTheTube Жыл бұрын
Thanks...there seems to be a large amount of stations that have been closed and re - sited very close by.
@HuggyBob62
@HuggyBob62 Жыл бұрын
The Brunel Museum in Rotherhithe, south of the overground tunnel connecting Shadwell is well worth a visit. It explains all about that tunnel under The Thames.
@ausbrum
@ausbrum Жыл бұрын
The Victoria Railways in Australia were constructed on the 5' gauge and never realigned. In the 1960's the line to the NSW border was converted (previously a journey from Melbourne to Sydney involved change of trains at Albury, NSW) and a bit later the Melbourne/Adelaide line converted to standard gauge
@rofromoz1361
@rofromoz1361 Жыл бұрын
I remember having to swap sides of the train at Albury on many occasions... our gran was in Sydney
@ThatScottishAtlantic57
@ThatScottishAtlantic57 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Jago!
@bluedamsel1185
@bluedamsel1185 Жыл бұрын
There's a lift service at Shadwell DLR station on the western side and a lift service on the Overground except that you have to go down a flight of stairs on either side to reach the platforms.
@benrose8029
@benrose8029 Жыл бұрын
Once my home for 2 years. Not the nicest of areas but will always have a special place in my heart.
@ianhelps3749
@ianhelps3749 Жыл бұрын
IIRC Shadwell Station (East London line) features in James Herbert's novel The Rats. Someone is standing alone on the platform and giant rats start pouring out of the tunnel.
@londonsuburbs
@londonsuburbs 17 күн бұрын
I love fast foods around this station 😂
@MrMakeDo
@MrMakeDo Жыл бұрын
I do like the 90’s mural that depicts the wonders of Tobacco Dock’s shopping mall with ships etc.
@nmarks
@nmarks Жыл бұрын
Siadwell (pronounced Shadwell) was the name of a character in the BBC comedy show Naked Video.
@sianwarwick633
@sianwarwick633 6 сағат бұрын
Oh well then
@frozenbeard81
@frozenbeard81 Жыл бұрын
We are Shadwell, The Kennel is our place, Shadwell, never never never shall lose face 😁🐶🐶
@genericfootyfan
@genericfootyfan Жыл бұрын
I Love ID.
@CaptainCalculus
@CaptainCalculus Жыл бұрын
What's this? No Charles T Yerkes? This will not stand!
@fredhunt2148
@fredhunt2148 Жыл бұрын
Shadwell DLR does have step free access. There's a lift behind you as you face the stairs.
@eattherich9215
@eattherich9215 Жыл бұрын
Shadwell is were I sometimes change for a northbound journey on the London overgroud. Those steps don't get any better for someone prone to vertigo, though.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart Жыл бұрын
Of all the possible interchanges at Shadwell (west to south, east to south, west to north, east to north), the only one to really make sense is east to north, connecting as it does the entire DLR network (bar the termini) with the Overground North London line (also possible with a bit of a walk at Stratford). Those flows would be the critical metric for a fusion of both stations. The respective (and rather distanced) extant entrances/exits belie the fact that the respective platforms are nearly vertically contiguous.
@joelharris1335
@joelharris1335 Жыл бұрын
Also, this also allowed the DC only class 378/1s to be supplemented by the Dual Voltage class 378/2s - normally used on the North/West London lines.
@rolandbogush2594
@rolandbogush2594 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video as always, thank you! Is it an optical illusion, at 5:58, the roof clearance for the departing Overground train looks very, very, very tight indeed - about 15cm/6"? Hopefully just the shooting angle....
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 Жыл бұрын
to be honest, 6" clearance does not sound unrealistic for London....
@stevevasta
@stevevasta Жыл бұрын
This video makes me want to go there and explore.
@scottc1589
@scottc1589 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if when the trains were powered by the "cable system" if one knew the number of stops until a chosen intermediary station, if one could then count up that number of cars from the end of the train to determine which car would be left at the desired intermediary station? 🤔
@adamhenley8295
@adamhenley8295 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else keep thinking of the “naked video” character called Shadwell as Jago narrates? Haven’t watched that in years 😂😂
@martyonline1957
@martyonline1957 Жыл бұрын
just a couple of points here, if Shadwell is the solution, it must be one hell of an opportunity ? My second point, a cable hauled railway. Let's just imagine if thet hadn't been quite so short sighted and one quiet afternoon Isambard Kingdom Brunel had thought, hold on a mojo and got his sketchpad out and BOOM !!! A cable hauled railway from Bristol to Paddington. Imagine this ENORMOUS steam engine at the Bristol end hauling trains to and fro ? Madness I know, it could have worked on the circle line though ! As always my friend a superb and thought provoking video
@rayfisher3921
@rayfisher3921 Жыл бұрын
Forget about Brunel. If Escher had built the Circle Line trains would need just gravity to traverse the line continuously, maybe generating enough power in the process to propel trains on the uphill circuit.
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 Жыл бұрын
There was one of London's fish markets at Shadwell - I wonder when it closed. (The LNWR had a loco named 'Psyche' bur many railwaymen thought it read 'Fish').
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 Жыл бұрын
so that's where the name comes from? literally a Well of river Shad....
@theceoofhumankind8649
@theceoofhumankind8649 Жыл бұрын
This won't disappoint!
@highvoltageswitcher6256
@highvoltageswitcher6256 Жыл бұрын
2nd. 🥈
@adrianrutterford762
@adrianrutterford762 Жыл бұрын
Good News. A new video from Mr H.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
Was Cable street named after the cable for the railway , or ships cables
@peterdean8009
@peterdean8009 Жыл бұрын
Making ships cables (ropes) according to Wikipedia.
@articeddie5494
@articeddie5494 Жыл бұрын
The link tunnel to the District line was still in use when the east London line closed, it was used for moving trains to different depots and is still visible when leaving Whitechapel WB district line train, also Shadwell isn’t really part of docklands.
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum Жыл бұрын
Great video of a bit of London that is often forgotten - also, at 4:25, are those icicles hanging down from the tunnel mouth??
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 Жыл бұрын
They astre more like stalactites. Bits of cement that have leached out of the brickwork and then re-solidified as the jwater dripped off
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard Жыл бұрын
They are. I got that shot on a very cold day.
@NickyMitchell85
@NickyMitchell85 Жыл бұрын
On the 17th of November 2002, my mother 👩 Káren, 44 tragically passed away. She died of a horrendous illness [Motor Neurone Disease]. Christmas 🎄 that year saw my sister 🧑, my dad 👨 & I spending the festive season with my family in Derby. On Christmas Eve that year, we did some carolling. There was a typo on “Once In Royal David’s City”; the first line was _”Once in Royal David’s City, stood a lonely cattle shad”_ instead of “cattle shed”. All the Carol singers [including me] ended up 🆙 laughing 😆 hysterically at that typo. When I watch this video or think 💭 of Shadwell, I reminisce back to that typo “shad” when it should’ve been *shed.*
@NSBarnett
@NSBarnett Жыл бұрын
(7:13) "Useful link between north and south that it was always intended to be"? Up to a point, Jago, but I find that to get from Croydon to Dalston, which is a direct service, it's slower than getting a train and a bus. It IS useful, but then London probably has too little public transport.
@miguelbarreira5005
@miguelbarreira5005 Жыл бұрын
Noice! My first (and only. For now) trip on both Overground and DLR was Clapham Junction to Canary Wharf via Shadwell. Where I accidentally forgot to tap in, because I didn't know the Oyster thingy was downstairs 😅
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
The east London line was occasionally used for trains from Liverpool Street coming onto the southern at new cross or new cross gate, I remember seeing a main line train running through Whitechapel station presumably heading for the southern region from liverpool street
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 Жыл бұрын
Goodness, when would that have been?
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
@@iankemp1131 early to mid sixties, admittedly they were probably specials, or excursions
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmiller641 Definitely, but very interesting nonetheless. I remember visiting Shoreditch on the LT peak hours only service in 1980ish and being surprised that you could see the main line from the platform end. After that I kept an eye out for the gap in the wall when travelling into Liv St.
@ianmoseley9910
@ianmoseley9910 Жыл бұрын
There was a connection at the old St Mary's station,close to where the mosque is now
@ChoobChoob
@ChoobChoob Жыл бұрын
4:44 Be sure to check out The Fish & Chicken shop in that location. They do nice deep fried button mushrooms.
@Wildcard71
@Wildcard71 Жыл бұрын
The meaning of the north south connection would increase if there was a link between Overground and SER at New Cross.
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 Жыл бұрын
To anyone of a certain generation who likes both British cinema and railways, Shadwell will always be associated with "iD" - #WeAreTheDogs Excellent video. Its still amazing to me just how much is stuffed into the area though.
@joacimnilsson6341
@joacimnilsson6341 Жыл бұрын
"We are Shadwell, the kennel is our place, Shadwell never, never, never shall lose face. Though you hate us, we couldn't give a toss, Shawell always, always, always are the boss!"
@chrisday9297
@chrisday9297 Жыл бұрын
You too, eh? Used to do that change at Shadwell many times when I lived in SE London, and every single time in my head I heard chants of "Shadwell Army! Shadwell Army!"
@AmIAntiAntianti
@AmIAntiAntianti Жыл бұрын
I'll never leave my great basin of nevada but i love this channel
@jck_crwthrmtb9413
@jck_crwthrmtb9413 Жыл бұрын
Shadwell basin?
@rayfisher3921
@rayfisher3921 Жыл бұрын
@@jck_crwthrmtb9413 You've reminded me to ask who knows the difference between a buffalo and a bison? As any east-ender will tell you, you can't wash yer 'ands in a buffalo.
@jck_crwthrmtb9413
@jck_crwthrmtb9413 Жыл бұрын
@@rayfisher3921 🤣 mate I don't just wash my hands in the basin I swim in it any weather
@grahamtaylor6317
@grahamtaylor6317 Жыл бұрын
There is step free access to the DLR platforms as there is at all DLR stations
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
lies sits abandoned, yep I'm back on the sofa
@ferstuck37
@ferstuck37 Жыл бұрын
Jago. Guess I will have to watch this video 2/3 time to figure out all the info you have put out! Right now my head is spinning 😂
@llux
@llux Жыл бұрын
have you made a video about the docklands being invested way more than expected? would be a great topic
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 Жыл бұрын
The modern developments much of which was allegedly financed by the proceeds of the Brinks Mat Bullion robbery.
@Friedegger
@Friedegger Жыл бұрын
He talked about this quite a bit in his video Why Does London Get All The Big Rail Projects.
@rockerjim8045
@rockerjim8045 Жыл бұрын
Say hello to Shadwell resident Ray Denton. Traveller extraordinare. Who once on tour in Sweden had nowhere to sleep broke into a garden centre and slept in a garden shed and used a Grow bag for a pillow.
@pvuccino
@pvuccino Жыл бұрын
The East London Railway station was also called Shadwell & St. George's East from 1900 to 1918!
@lukeeclair7736
@lukeeclair7736 Жыл бұрын
The Shadwell Overground - DLR interchange is perfectly fine. An integrated single station would be a nice-to-have, but is so far down the national priorities list it should never happen.
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video sir.
@send2gl
@send2gl Жыл бұрын
At 4:39 is that icicles hanging from the mouth of the tunnel, or a stalactite? 😎
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Looks like icicles to me. I suspect a stalactite would take too long to grow. Suddenly reminds me of the Rev Awdry story were Peter Sam lost his (already wobbly) funnel when it hit an icicle in a tunnel and he was given an old drainpipe as a temporary replacement.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard Жыл бұрын
Icicles. It was a very cold day when I got that shot.
@davidoliver1169
@davidoliver1169 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@forecast_hinderer
@forecast_hinderer Жыл бұрын
As a side note, from the shots used and tone of narration I feel I observe a Jago equanimity with life, which may include a tolerance, and even a possible anthropological appreciation of, the often sighted and included tags and graffiti.
@billsinkins361
@billsinkins361 Жыл бұрын
I now have a strange craving for fish & chicken
@jasonl4411.
@jasonl4411. Жыл бұрын
I worked at Shadwell overground station for 6 years. Never heard of an abandoned third station
@Banglish123
@Banglish123 Жыл бұрын
There is a lift to the platform at Shadwell DLR
@eastlancsesteem
@eastlancsesteem Жыл бұрын
The DLR and Overground stations need to be connected together, without tapping out and in.
@eastlancsesteem
@eastlancsesteem Жыл бұрын
Same as Hammersmith.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains Жыл бұрын
very Shadwell-adelic Jago! Enjoyable video.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 Жыл бұрын
The East London line is certainly a modern success story, finally realising the potential it's had for years, though I sometimes wish more trains went beyond Dalston Junction to Highbury and Islington on the interchange to Kingsland was better. It probably carried reasonable freight traffic to the docks, especially at night, and I wonder if the Met discouraged this a bit as they didn't want it interfering with their nice regular-interval underground line. Remember visiting it in the 1980s and it was pretty sleepy, especially by London standards (though not as much as Greenford-Ealing).
@alejandrayalanbowman367
@alejandrayalanbowman367 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jago from Spain. Thank you very much. I once alighted there, pre DLR from an LT&S train out of Fenchurch St because i needed to access the old Commercial Road goods yard. Oh happy days.
@francisboyle1739
@francisboyle1739 Жыл бұрын
I think photo of Luftwaffe bomber over East London docks" has now officially overtaken "drawing of cut and cover tunnel construction as this channel's most used image.
@GeorgeChoy
@GeorgeChoy Жыл бұрын
Great way to start the weekend
@johna5635
@johna5635 Жыл бұрын
"Shadwell" just reminds me of the comedy character "Shadwell the Poet" played by John Sparkes in the early 80's.
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 Жыл бұрын
I remember him - in "Naked Video" . Permanently depressed. But as he was Welsh, he spelt it Siadwel .No relation to Thomas Shadwell, Poet Laureate during the reign of William & Mary
@johna5635
@johna5635 Жыл бұрын
Aaah - I don't think I ever saw it written down!
@Andrewjg_89
@Andrewjg_89 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Shadwell should of have a National Rail station on the c2c “LTS” line that would make Shadwell a interchange station with National Rail, London Overground and DLR. Rather than changing at Fenchurch Street or Limehouse to get to Shadwell via the DLR. Plus Network Rail should still continue on upgrading the LTS line with replacing ageing overhead wires that were first installed in the 1950s.
@andrewberry6194
@andrewberry6194 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as usual!
@MikeWillSee
@MikeWillSee Жыл бұрын
9:11 I'm pretty sure all DLR stations (including Shadwell) have step-free access. Other than that fantastic video, the Shadwell stations have always interested me!
@mickeydodds1
@mickeydodds1 Жыл бұрын
Shadwell Overground Station rather resembles the type of station seen on the Victoria Line in form and brick colour - the same minimalist, budget, type square box of a station. Considering Victoria Line Stations were constructed in the late '60s, early '70s, was the same firm of architects responsible?
@NapoleonRook
@NapoleonRook Жыл бұрын
Brilliant thanks
@shaddersshadwell4941
@shaddersshadwell4941 Жыл бұрын
Nice of them to name a station after me 😊
@roderickmain9697
@roderickmain9697 Жыл бұрын
Truly fascinating.. Great bit of research, Jago.
@stepheneyles2198
@stepheneyles2198 Жыл бұрын
One hesitates to ask what may be a silly question - how does one go about extending a tunnel? (4:36) Surely the tunnel was already complete, or it couldn't have been called a 'tunnel' in the first place, just a 'cave', shall we say? ;-))
@Tevildo
@Tevildo Жыл бұрын
The original Thames Tunnel terminated well below street level, with a staircase down to the tunnel entrance itself. The top part of the shaft can be visited at the Brunel Museum in Rotherhithe. The tunnel needed to be extended horizontally so that trains (which are not good at descending staircases) could access it.
@luisstransport
@luisstransport Жыл бұрын
Great video Jago
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane Жыл бұрын
6:37 - Kerning issue? SHAD W ELL
@someoneno-one7672
@someoneno-one7672 Жыл бұрын
An exhaustive account on Shadwell and an entertaining one. A honorary mention: the “core” of the London Overground is de facto a second orbital metro service in Greater London, and Shadwell Overground station (sitting resolutely underground) is an integral part of it. It is a useful interchange if one travels from the north of East End to Greenwich, Lewisham, London City airport and, possibly, Becton
@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759
@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759 Жыл бұрын
When there is a tube strike, this interchange station is a complete disaster as this tiny station sudden takes over all the capacity of Jubilee line 😢
@BassandoForte
@BassandoForte Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Shadwell Welsh though..?? 🤔🤣
@theeastendwanderer8277
@theeastendwanderer8277 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I hate changing from the DLR to Overground. It takes about 2 mins but I never feel safe doing it. As soon as you come out of the DLR station you are greeted by beggers, gangs and people hanging around on street corners. I would love for the stations to be connected!
@DubGathoni
@DubGathoni Жыл бұрын
4:48, this always struck me as odd. Knowing smoke was a thing, why were these early railways always using steam when an- aerobic forms of traction did exist in the form of the battery electric locomotives. Yes they weren't fast but they posed negligible fire risk and given the money spent on train development, wouldn't they have been better off putting that into something that didn't have a habit of suffocating passengers?
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 Жыл бұрын
The ELR was not a self contained railway, but a link between main lines northg and south of London. batteries, even if they had been practical in the 1880s, would have had a very limited range so a traction change woukld have been needed each end of the tunnel. Much longer tunnels existed under the Pennines, and they were steam operated.
@DubGathoni
@DubGathoni Жыл бұрын
@@norbitonflyer5625 Is there a good source for 19th and 20th century BE train development. Also this implies that state of the art didn't move for 40 years. Is this correct and does this apply to the Mersey Railway?
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 Жыл бұрын
@@DubGathoni The Mersey Railway was electrified (Liverpool Central to Rock ferry, less than 5 miles) in 1903. The slightly longer Liverpool Overhead Railway was opened, electrified from the outset, in 1893. Both are predated by the City & South London Railway, in 1890.
@rayfisher3921
@rayfisher3921 Жыл бұрын
@@norbitonflyer5625 The Mersey Rly was the first underground to convert from steam to electric, being just ahead of the Metropolitan. It really had to because the steam locos attacking the 1 in 27 gradient to the Liverpool terminus were choking the passengers, most of whom had deserted it. Tube lines had to be electric from the start (or cable-hauled, like the Glasgow underground).
@asheland_numismatics
@asheland_numismatics Жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍
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