One thing i liked about Shaheen was he was a new generation Tekken character that plays pure Tekken like he was around since Tekken 1. Hes got your usual pokes, df 1 and hop kick and even the slide. He may seem boring to most but hes very fundamental and teaches you how to play the game well.
@Sammysapphira11 ай бұрын
I think that's the funniest part everyone complains about new tekken characters that "aren't tekken" and then when they see a genuine TEKKEN character with nothing but df1 jabs and low pokes they say they're boring and should be removed from the game. Just like same thing happened with kazumi
@HelterSeltzer_the_one11 ай бұрын
@Sammysapphira I was about to comment something like that. "This game is full anime" but Shaheen is boring lol Probably why Namco has kept him though.
@HouseMusicNinja11 ай бұрын
@@HelterSeltzer_the_one they definitely went more practical than aesthetic with him. His redesign is cooler though in my opinion but yeah he ain't the flashiest guy on the roster
@exiledhebrew199411 ай бұрын
@@Sammysapphira i miss kazumi. but the main problem with shaheen is that he doesnt do anything lee and law dont do
@demixenicsgo10 ай бұрын
@@exiledhebrew1994 I used to main Kazumi, she was really fun. Well you could play Shaheen just because you can't be arsed to install "no Law voice/mute Law" mods or can't handle Lee just frames or execution.
@0kills11 ай бұрын
AK doing 6-7 slides with shaheen will never get old 😂😂😂
@ShadowBlade7911 ай бұрын
I've come to appreciate Shaheen so much more now, even having mained him for a while in T7. He's fun to style on people with, but I can also see how players might not want to put in so much work to get the same level of damage another character could just shit out for almost nothing. But when you get in someone's head with Shaheen, it's a beautiful feeling to watch them crumble.😊
@Ampersandersson11 ай бұрын
Shaheen bros, rejoice!
@stonebones779311 ай бұрын
My group of friends are all playing high teir characters. I picked shaheen as my main because they said he was a low teir. More like low teir god.
@VittamarFasuthAkbin11 ай бұрын
Sha Heen
@AsDf-fq1sh7 ай бұрын
amazing profile pic
@gideonartistry11 ай бұрын
They could just simply add glowing sand effects on some of his moves to make the character more visually appealing.
@evangel146011 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree it looked sick on the sf6 Rashid I think it'd fit here.
@cenfre286611 ай бұрын
Yeah give him the Lars treatment
@Kreasddjb11 ай бұрын
Wierd. Thats just what i wrote on reddit a day ago. Its always a nice thing to find someone with your own opinion in the internet. Make him slide on oil
@OccuredJakub1211 ай бұрын
Nah how about you do something that doesn't make him a stereotype XD
@Kreasddjb11 ай бұрын
@@OccuredJakub12 leave him boring?
@thepersonwho216611 ай бұрын
not a Shaheen main but I love bringing out this lil neck snappa when playing with friends
@SShaBazzz11 ай бұрын
"Lil neck snappa" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@juancarloang11 ай бұрын
I saw a Shaheen Reddit post a few days ago, and now this. I'm convinced. I'll give this guy a shot too!
@AbelMusa11 ай бұрын
This dude is my favorite character. Having recently bought T8 I'm still playing him like T7, this video was helpful to get to know his new tricks
@reirei_tk11 ай бұрын
I just learned that, if you cancel his u+1, you can use fc df+4 df to go into stealth step. Do fc df+4 df db to go into crouch instead. Do it fast enough, you can do a slide somewhere in there. He has has fc df+2 as a safe (iirc) mid. Pretty neat!
@TeenywantsaHug11 ай бұрын
i dont play T8 yet, but i felt from the footage ive seen that shaheen finally got what he deserved in this game. im happy for the character, even frame thinks hes cool now. ill definitely pick him up when i start my T8 journey.
@Tinfoiltomcat11 ай бұрын
I've been playing Shaheen since launch of T8. This video really help fill the blanks in my offense thanks dude. I'm learning the ws3 loops now
@legendofsonic397911 ай бұрын
Shaheen is the most Tekken character in Tekken 8 imo. He's a combination of every fundamental tool and one of every unique mechanic e.g mix up stance, slide, guard break. He is the perfect gateway into learning Tekken holistically, learning every character. If you learn how to use Shaheen slide or guard break that WILL translate to others.
@durdukyeretahrik11 ай бұрын
A little correction: Shaheen is not the first character with a charge move in Tekken. Paul has his "Incomplete Somersault" since Tekken 3.
@MaskedGuyCh11 ай бұрын
Shaheen's move can be charged while doing other stuff, he's the first Tekken character to have that mechanic.
@HoDoBoDo11 ай бұрын
Yh but he's the first character to have 2D style charge attacks, where you can cancel it after certain attacks. Paul's incomplete somersault takes forever to charge up.
@Vospi11 ай бұрын
I mean, I think Frame was talking about an archetype, not just a presence of a move.
@dewidumortier855211 ай бұрын
@@HoDoBoDo that and it's basically just for trolling, there's practically no utility for it.
@michaelandrews510311 ай бұрын
@@MaskedGuyChSo Gigas wasn't a charge character 🤔
@Stilllife199911 ай бұрын
Mishima boys always calling other characters cheap while having unseeable low launches and 50/50 mixups
@Kenpachi_White70711 ай бұрын
100% and when they buff any other character they cry broken until they nerf an already low tier oblivion. lol
@Therealtrilldill11 ай бұрын
which require skill
@ReiPlush_MH11 ай бұрын
@@Therealtrilldillup until the highest of high ranks, mishimas are pretty braindead. In low-mid ranks (where 95% of players play) mishimas are very easy and effective.
@SzyszuPL11 ай бұрын
so go on and play them lol, I play mishimas and non mishimas and I can easily say they are harder to play at all ranks. And also every character has cheese if you dont know them
@ReiPlush_MH11 ай бұрын
@@SzyszuPL i main Reina but I also play Jack, Kazuya, and Shaheen In low rank playing poke characters is hard but playing mixup characters very very easy
@fortisch11 ай бұрын
I was a shaheen main in t7 and I really enjoyed the nonflashy stuff, but hes so awesome in t8 imo
@themarcshark11 ай бұрын
Same. My main in both 7 and 8
@FlokiTech11 ай бұрын
I'm glad that the 4 shaheen mains are happy with him
@jamesandrewchan279111 ай бұрын
Excuse me, we're 6 now.
@jnre714411 ай бұрын
7 😎
@2angetsu66411 ай бұрын
8✌️
@mm-yq5dt11 ай бұрын
800 of them were in the character discord on Reddit, almost 100 more than the entire capo discord which is shocking tbh
@FlokiTech11 ай бұрын
@@mm-yq5dt Tbf I'm also in that discord because I tried him in Tekken 7. Doubt all of them are mains and probably 1/15 are actually active. I do like Shaheen however and was just joking.
@Sorcerer_Lynx11 ай бұрын
I don't understand why more realistic move, not over the top exagerated ones are considered boring. Moves don't have to be flashy as hell to be fun or feel like they have a real impact (i mean the thing when you can "feel" the punch by watching it). I liked Shaheen in Tekken 7, wasn't boring at all for me. Tekken 8 its basically the first time i'm seeing how he is in this game so can't judge. But doesn't look boring at all to me.
@Shaheentop411 ай бұрын
It wasn't mentioned, but his ss2 is also really good
@SkarjOS11 ай бұрын
Yup! And it leaves you in crouch with + frames on hit and +13 on ch, perfect for immediately doing a slide mix afterwards
@rondomane11 ай бұрын
@@SkarjOS you're 0 on hit after ss2
@deeli351811 ай бұрын
I appreciate these guides but could you turn on input history in the future?
@hotcoldman979311 ай бұрын
This is the only character i haven't fought online
@2Namii11 ай бұрын
Same lol.
@Geferulf_TAS11 ай бұрын
From 1% userate in T7 to a whopping 2% userate in T8
@wonderman716611 ай бұрын
Then that's a disadvantage for you. If you don't know a characters moves or their gimmicks and you face a good player of that unused character, then you're in trouble 😂.
@IAMOP11 ай бұрын
Frame reminds me of super man mustache cgi for some reason lol
@reirei_tk11 ай бұрын
I can't wait for the Snyder cut of this video!
@2009slmlm11 ай бұрын
Yes, Shaheen is one of the names a falcon has in Arabic
@TeryonTheHuman11 ай бұрын
Another day, another frame video where he tries in vain to convince me to play a character that isn’t a mishima
@starstarstar276911 ай бұрын
Key thing that's incredibly impactful is that you can charge partition al ghul so you actually never have to crouch
@raoulgrave228811 ай бұрын
your t8 videos have been so good. Keep it up! Never thought i'd try this char, but he genuinely looks so much deeper and more interesting than I thought
One more really cool thing on Shaheen, pretty much the ability to catch any wall in a combo if you're skilled enough with the ff3 tornado to change direction
@GranDaddyIceBox11 ай бұрын
Just the addition of uf1 and the cancel makes his mixup way more fun in my opinion. Slide and follow up into uf1 cancel into whatever mix up or ws1 ch check is a super fun loop
@YaGirlGumption10 ай бұрын
With the exception of Reina, we seem to have the exact same taste in characters. I'm so glad you're much more eloquent and displaying why I love these characters like Lars and Shaheen and Alisa.
@theanti-hypemonitor907911 ай бұрын
This guy might be fun! thank you for the recomendation! played around with him a little while watching this and this might be up my alley.
@Ja_CL11 ай бұрын
Been labbing and learning this character recently. Great info on how his new stuff works
@XonixDerps11 ай бұрын
With that chip grey health removal move and his customize outfit fitting Altair I swear they thought: Hes now an air blade assassin. Nothing is true"
@4thlord11 ай бұрын
Shaheen is my highest ranked main rn. He's so much more rewarding to play now. Uf1 cancel into crouch 50/50 is my favorite thing to do
@Pathogenus11 ай бұрын
great video. i wanted to learn a character that's more about fundamnetals but never been fan of playing characters like kazuya or paul. so its reassuring to know that shaheen is a good option
@axo43839 ай бұрын
Now that he is less played character means a lot of people don't know about his stuff.
@ladrellhart206311 ай бұрын
He is a good character.
@ryans28486 ай бұрын
So far his combo is the hardest and most satisfying to do with stealth step to while rising kick
@bean-charlieartz313811 ай бұрын
I’ve put about 30 hrs into Shaheen in T8 at first I thought he was bad but then I realized that I wasn’t using all of his moves he’s really dope and the costume is fire 🔥🔥🔥
@TheAciditty11 ай бұрын
Many of his strings (df4,1 or 2,3 or f2,3 for example) are exactly long enough to charge Al Ghul master. Meaning you can chip in heat an just throw it out when they are blocking high already. Also at wall Charge d,u2 wall staggers when not in heat meaning and its minus 13 so 2,3 charge d,u2 is a frame trap loop at wall. Wall splatting df4,3 into charge d,u2 for resplat hits real hard. His ws3,snkc loops require a low juggle. Common route is launch, 3,snkc,fc4,1 db2,snkc,ws3,snkc,ws3,snkc,ws3,3 fc2,(buffer)ff3 or RA 78-125 dmg
@ChristopherWaddelow11 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you for the information sir!
@zipzip07011 ай бұрын
I'm playing Lee in this game since they didn't give us Armor King for base game, but I did also get the impression that Shaheen was more interesting in this game. I like his 2nd outfit with the green colors. I may try him out for a while.
@javierperezmerino945711 ай бұрын
Men, gotta try saheen. Thanks foe tge review
@justaman488711 ай бұрын
finally someone is talking about shaheen! he's criminally underrated in this game
@versatilelord889310 ай бұрын
King jae also talked about him as well
@theformation378111 ай бұрын
Waow characters can have mid-high mixups in tekken 8 in a sane and a reasonable fashion and not just have them from neutral where they also get extremely strong lows for no reason? Didnt think that was possible i thought a counterhit 40+ damage low that's not launch punishable that you can access in neutral was actually required in characters like these yes I'm talking about king what the hell is up with ff n 2
@Farhan-ny8wt11 ай бұрын
That HAS to be the best low in the game. They took the best properties of AK and Kings and combined them and now we have this abomination of a move. Honestly wtf were they smoking when designing T8 King LOL.
@Reydriel11 ай бұрын
@@Farhan-ny8wt The good stuff, clearly lmao The universal and King-specific throw buffs and Heat weren't enough for them apparently lmao
@theformation378111 ай бұрын
@@Farhan-ny8wt 55 damage on counterhit range 3+ low that's only -13 for a character that was specifically designed around not having strong lows (db3+4 is also only -14 btw)
@Farhan-ny8wt11 ай бұрын
@@theformation3781 Don’t forget it crushes highs too because why the fuck not. Totally fine 👍
@theformation378111 ай бұрын
@Farhan-ny8wt oh yeah but you know throws were nerfed in this game he needs it -is what I would say if throws were nerfed this game and not buffed he clearly doesn't need it
@limear10 ай бұрын
I hope they'll add more charge stuff in the future to make him even more unique
@unseeninja8311 ай бұрын
I still feel he shoulda had 1-2 moves with his brother sword. But I’ve definitely grown to really like Playing him.
@sbfl4sh34911 ай бұрын
wow im so hyped to learn him now thx for the vid was looking for a new main
@QuietTokes11 ай бұрын
Shaheen main since T7 overall. And I just like the honest fundamentals. He was a bit boring overall and I agree with the points listed. But all I wanted was a glow up for our boii. And we got it!
@versatilelord889310 ай бұрын
I felt like he was cool in t7 but needed some fleshing out and more flavor Couldn’t be more glad that we got in tekken 8!
@cursedcrow103311 ай бұрын
Yup i see it the same way. Shaheen got huge Upgrades compared to T7 and he is fun now to play even with a little bit execution like sneak cancel
@tqhr11 ай бұрын
his ws3 loop combos are also really nice to do
@RivalFaust11 ай бұрын
Bro those loops are hella hard I can only do 1 before I have to spin but they're cool to pull off for sure
@LUX71111 ай бұрын
Do a video explaining all the characters’ different heat gimicks. No one has done a vid like that yet & personally I have no idea what everyone’s heat lets them do. I just know it makes some moves a little better🤷🏻♂️
@fgtypezero068411 ай бұрын
Shaheen is my main so far. I know why he didn’t catch but I thought he was solid in T6. I thought jack8 would replace my favorite character in gigas, but he is no gigas.
@fuman705711 ай бұрын
… Shaheen wasn’t in T6, and he ended T7 being complete garbage due to nerfs, useless new moves, and getting little benefit from system updates.
@fgtypezero068411 ай бұрын
@@fuman7057 You’re right t7. He was an solid character t7 in his bag, you could knowledge check or play fundamental Tekken.
@nogoodchad447311 ай бұрын
This is the only character I've used in ranked and I've never had a mirror match 😭
@RentonReturns11 ай бұрын
I just picked him up 2 days ago. Finally got his stealth cancel down lol I’m a Leo main and I enjoy using unpopular characters and he’s really cool to me. I don’t see why everyone says he’s boring.
@vijayvj5611 ай бұрын
Waiting for leo and Alisa and lars guides from you frame....cuz I love the way your teaching method 🙌🏻✌️
@SuperSaku111 ай бұрын
I have actively become less happy as a person every time I've run into Shaheen.
@yoshitsune569110 ай бұрын
Feels bad man
@AdmireTheMoustache9 ай бұрын
He's super fun and has a lot of potential but really has no low pressure.
@SkarjOS11 ай бұрын
People called me crazy for dropping Raven and Leroy for Shaheen because I found him more fun
@desgyulabalogh342911 ай бұрын
goddamn now i wanna sweatlord this character that ws3 loop looks sick
@Zenithhero11 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing people the light i like shaheen
@punishedwhispers121811 ай бұрын
I like this character a lot, his outfits are cool without trying too hard, his moves are cool without trying too hard, hes...generically cool. The problem with Shaheen is that he's so far down on the list for a lot of people, I'd play Bryan if Kings didnt exist, and Steve if Bryan didnt exist, And Drag if Steve Didnt exist, and then finally Shaheen if none of them did. I wish they would've made him a boxer, or a thai fighter, or a wrestler, combatant ideas that already have a strong following, instead hes just...Shaheen
@versatilelord889310 ай бұрын
Nah I don’t want him to be a boxer. Awful idea He wouldn’t as cool and would lose his identity Love shaheen exactly as we have him now. He was pretty cool in t7 but now he’s got so much more sauce and looks and fights smoother He’s awesome and belong on the tekken roster
@UnpoIished11 ай бұрын
I’ve only played 2 Shaheen players since this game’s inception.
@versavices377611 ай бұрын
Shaheen feels like a pseudo steve in t8. Not in the CH department but he has so many cancels and so much flexibility with his fc game. Lots of different pokes and plus frames. Big guard breaks and on demand evasion. 41 is a solid ch. While lacking safety, there and mind games that come after that have been working for me. This is the best upgrade from 7 imo. Uf1, d to close the gap feels amazing too.
@ZiegenMeisterV111 ай бұрын
uhh thats some cool stuff^^ i used to play him in t7 as a pocket char, but he always bored me after half an hour. I like what they did to his combos^^ you can probably still do 3df into ws1 as a dmg filler combined with the ws3 loops it could be super satisfying
@Washi8111 ай бұрын
Guard break, good counter hits, good wall game, orbital. So basically Bryan? I knew you loved him.
@ChristopherWaddelow11 ай бұрын
Hey Frame, quick note, db4 for tornado at the wall doesn't hit small bodies, so I'd recommend fb2 for them!
@xRhychux11 ай бұрын
The situation where both you and your opponent have a lot of recoverable health, you connect with a heat engager, regaining all that recoverable health and then immediately get them to block the charge move and get the unblockable grab removing their recoverable health is FUCKED UP. I love it Going to try shaheen out
@paxcaster11 ай бұрын
*sees title* *sees uploader* for you i will listen
@Mokujinko9 ай бұрын
As a b2 loop enjoyer I can't wait to get sweaty.
@HelterSeltzer_the_one11 ай бұрын
I was wondering about these new moves... now it is coming together. I am understanding.
@finnTekken11 ай бұрын
Seems really fun. I will try him out. Thanks frame.
@KKDREADY11 ай бұрын
I still dont know the trick on how like from 2,3 into FC U+2 in an instant like the holding down input isnt seen
@Giraffinator11 ай бұрын
It's great that they had the entirety of the Arabic language at their disposal and they decided to go with "knife hand"
@fabriciosouza312811 ай бұрын
Played a little bit of Raven, but Shaheen is way more satisfying. His moves now look very cool to see, some people can find his look not so appealing, but there's customization for that. I dare to say, outside the less appealing looks, he's visually way more cool while fighting than most of the cast
@JRNY876 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me how they do double scorpion move without rising??
@redspine285911 ай бұрын
I’m new to Tekken (played a bit of 7 but only with friends) and I’m playing a different character every 2-3 days so I know what they do. I was expecting Shaheen to be straightforward and simple, that’s what everybody’s been saying but oh lord he isn’t. Canceling SNK into FC is absolutely needed for combos, duck under highs and access low parry after a stance entry, and get the better pressure game (if you enter stance at +10 you can WS1 for a mid while SNK 1 is a high). Also there’s not much bullshit going around with the stance like Victor/Azucena, and detering/punishing opponents from mashing (especially d1) is HARD with Shaheen.
@ClockworkKnightt11 ай бұрын
The FC mixup is better with fc df4 as low and fc df 2 as mid I think. the low option can go into snk for snk 1+2 for example, essentially looping itself into more pressure. fc df2 is strong knockdown mid that wallsplats and is safe. I like it more than slide / ws2
@palim-ux9ry10 ай бұрын
Thats True but the slide adds those mental frames and dmg
@yesok252211 ай бұрын
Eh, he's still mostly just a flavourless Lee in this game, even up to his heat replenishing gimmick.
@usmansubhani748211 ай бұрын
I feel like I mishear Viktor saying SHAHEEN sometimes too.
@the0manslayer11 ай бұрын
I've been told he's saying "J'ARRIVE!" which is like "I'm arriving"
@Vospi11 ай бұрын
Nice.
@RizalBoon11 ай бұрын
it's interesting that they introduced charging mechanics in Tekken with Shaheen. Hope that could help a bit with his lack of identity in previous game.
@crimsonite20444 ай бұрын
And he’a the most handsome male character
@KingBeef72611 ай бұрын
I like Shaheen, but i feel like you have to put in extra work for a decent payout. The same goes for Leo. As a bear main, I don't have to break my neck for big damage. Same goes for Jack. Maybe I'm just looking for the path of least resistance. Anyway, nice video and glad to see you playing Tekken again. ✌🏿
@Jonkin71511 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call the bears or Jack "the least resistance". If they get a pressure character all up in their face, life becomes very difficult.
@bastinelli44311 ай бұрын
Yeah that's the curse of T8, characters with big damage erase most poke characters. I was a Feng main and would chip someone down only for them to hit me with a string that does equal damage. It was hard to make comebacks with him too. Switched to Paul and literally unga bunged myself to garyu without labbing him.
@Fallin21511 ай бұрын
I picked him up just to find out myself and I actually really like him as well I think people should give him a try really imho
@bamse795811 ай бұрын
Thanks for this frame! ♥ Shaheen revolved in T7 around the heart of tekken - fundamentals, so always found it a bit weird when people said his gameplay was boring. I guess pretty sparks and stuff just don't matter that much to me personally lol. I do agree he didn't really have his own identity, and that that was a problem. I also agree he is boring as a character, lore wise*.. Boring standard noble one-dimensional character.
@Spazek11 ай бұрын
Technically Paul would be tekken’s first charge character since he has that stupid backflip lol
@MrCerebellum211 ай бұрын
Wait….Shaheen’s uncharged up+2 is the same as Miguel’s regular up+2. I always thought that move was useless but… Does Miguel have charged moves in Tekken 7?
@bamse795811 ай бұрын
Honestly they should just have made this character evil or some shit and people would start playing him a lot more lol
@artemicionkupo43679 ай бұрын
I main him. Fun character to me. Feels like a weak hitting character, but my gawd does it feels great to take down big damage characters. I feel like I know how to play tekken because of him.
@potatopotato788211 ай бұрын
Shaheen gang rise up
@jandipopo_art201211 ай бұрын
Its his overall personality and look thats boring, but gameplay wise, i love him. He's the epitome of how I play Tekken. If i get my feng to blue ranks, I'd start playing shaheen too, to put him in blue ranks too. He's rarely used so i think the knowledge check alone would give me easy wins.
@mlao133311 ай бұрын
I made a post on reddit basically saying this. I got downvoted into oblivion and got banned for 45 days for "inciting arguments".
@ryans28486 ай бұрын
Did u say hobo wave dash for Lars lol that’s my main lol
@federz66611 ай бұрын
Even in T8, he’s about as interesting as Greek yogurt
@versatilelord889310 ай бұрын
Garbage take
@Nkodtb11 ай бұрын
Hes my first purple rank character
@illiahryhorak586011 ай бұрын
For me Shaheen in t7 wasn`t boring. He was exhausting to play. He had every tool that you needed for a win, but your fundamental knowledge should`ve been very good. Every win was deserved imo. Hope in t8 he will receive more attention, despite TMM`s judgement for Shaheen being boring even now, that have the most influence for newbies.
@tryingtochangemyways507411 ай бұрын
Let me correct you on the charge part..Shaheen is far from the first charge character..Law is the first and paul..Law has a charge flip kick..And paul also has that charge flip kick that he tries to do but falls face first..Both are charge motion..Also Anna has a charged flip kick
@jakedunc11 ай бұрын
Ok tekken fan, but this is the first actually usable move
@bboyninjakocaceres444211 ай бұрын
Sigma male character
@YiddishDancingClown11 ай бұрын
I liked Shaheen in 7 so him in 8 is so much fun in comparison.
@abacteriophage151111 ай бұрын
btw found out shaheen has far easier and faster KBD, just do multiple back then forward inputs and the distance you get is insane. its prob a bug since its only shaheen but pls let my boy have this
@therealmccoy200411 ай бұрын
AK the real shaheen main. He in my opinion put shaheen on
@MaskedGuyCh11 ай бұрын
Agreed, Shaheen is super fun in this game, his moves just feel and look awesome, and he has a lot of identity now. People who still think he's boring definitely haven't been paying attention.