What's lovely about this old video is that NOW, Mr Michael Eric Dyson agrees with Shahrazad Ali. I've heard him speak since, even recently and you can hear the learned in his speech today. Seeing a young Malik Zulu Shabazz reminds me of how long bro been out here fighting, trying to give that knowledge. He is a TRUE follower of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Khalid Muhammad. R.I.P to them both.
@BYRD1014 Жыл бұрын
We need to start having these types of conversations in our communities again.
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@ericrobertson4243what for? Chinweizu said it all in "anatomy of female power"(1990) but these conversations still occur
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this the same Dyson who spoke of Black Male Supremacy ? Hip Hop Beyond Beats and Rhymes(2005)
@BYRD1014 Жыл бұрын
@@londonbowcat1 Not sure
@mrluvit8232 Жыл бұрын
@@londonbowcat1chinwiezu aye? 🤔 and yes that is the same eric dyson
@ctbt18323 ай бұрын
Yes but when one person talks the other need to listen and vice versa
@ZAaron-wq5jd2 жыл бұрын
What a blessing the Queen Shaharazad Ali has been for us. For me personally as a 13-14 year old in the early 1990's I was introduced to her works by my late stepfather and for it I am forever grateful.
@Masterquismoney2 жыл бұрын
👑✊🏼
@fatheroffibereconomics Жыл бұрын
So what have you been doing to improve anything?
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@fatheroffibereconomicswe have tommy j curry now
@devinicole1278 Жыл бұрын
Sharazad is smarter than the everyone else in the room.
@nneoma610610 ай бұрын
100%%%!
@dikiemoe17 ай бұрын
That does mean they shouldn't get to speak their peace. Too Much over talking
@johntheprofessional50392 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this video is more relevant in 2022 than it ever was in the early 1990s.
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
Yes!! These archives have prominent relevance. Goes to show that we just have to update the foundation that the Elders established.
@johntheprofessional50392 жыл бұрын
@@bravecoldwater9061 Great upload!
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
@@johntheprofessional5039 Thanks for tuning in beloved! More content to come. 🤲🏿
@SO24PH92 жыл бұрын
👏🏽
@MackeyDeez2 жыл бұрын
When I realized that was Michael Eric Dyson I knew that he was there to defend the plantation
@brandonwest61352 жыл бұрын
Mrs Ali is the GOAT
@powerplay4real174 Жыл бұрын
She of on this broadcast. First any real believer in the Holy Bible knows Jesus Christ, Yahshua the Messiah is not black or white and none of those folks on that broadcast are black. That's a white supremacists doctrine and it's is got them all at odds then and now. Islamic vs. Christianity when the Holy Righteous book teach both Islam and Christian, Islam mean to have faith in God and submit your will to God and Christian is becoming like Adam the man before he sinned. So we all should be working to be like Christ Yahshua who was the second Adam and did what the first Adam was not able to. And he was beaten and crucified by that we call white and blacks or Romans & Hebrews.
@nneoma610610 ай бұрын
💯
@KingTr3y. Жыл бұрын
Dyson wanted to side with Ali but the white man inside him kept coming out
@barbarabee23916 ай бұрын
7:24 "Ain't noone get off the ship named Darryl." I lost it😂
@Cakelady1812 күн бұрын
Same 😂😂😂
@xoacatl7 ай бұрын
Our Voices on BET! This was when the network had talk shows and forums that peeled back the layers on our social issues and concerns
@JustJohnice9 ай бұрын
I'm just now watching this and the disrespect of the ones who did not listen to understand her was disgusting...it was an attack and so typical of how we treat those who think differently from us...I can not believe how they over talked her thee entire time...MUCH RESPECT FOR HER TO CONTINUE STANDING IN HER TRUTH AND SPEAKING FACTS ❤
@bxofficial54132 жыл бұрын
The same way the interviewer is asking questions but never listening is what most black women do today including everyone else 💯
@SO24PH92 жыл бұрын
👌🏽
@Banzii_Mavuso2 жыл бұрын
Everything flew over her head. Sad.
@blacksoul24102 жыл бұрын
both of the black males in the suits were doing the same also. attempting to justify their slave mentalities
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@SO24PH940:00 just that like BGS IBMOR he mentions the Kerner Commission !
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@Banzii_Mavuso40:15 who ?
@randyvaughn88107 ай бұрын
As I looked in the comments no one said anything about this being Malcom X grandson. Smh knowledge is key.
@geometricalconsensus455722 күн бұрын
because it's not.
@abaraka5338 Жыл бұрын
We love her. THE SLAVES ARE ON DA PANEL
@raycurry4168 Жыл бұрын
Yes they are!
@Melvino151 Жыл бұрын
Lot of intelligence in this room but no one is listening to each other. Peace to Dr. Dyson!
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
Nah peace to Jared Ball!
@aarondigby50549 ай бұрын
@5:20 Shaharazad Ali chopped their a## up with "you don't see Jews naming their childrrn Adolf Hitler"
@samsoncox43042 жыл бұрын
Amen Shahrazad Ali!!! ✊
@Banzii_Mavuso2 жыл бұрын
They didn't respect Mama Ali on this interview at all. I love the grace she held herself. 💗
@Pshell2 жыл бұрын
Did the interviewer tell her to shut up and then she said “watch it now” lol whoa!!
@Banzii_Mavuso2 жыл бұрын
@@Pshell 😂😂😂
@Jihad__2 жыл бұрын
@@Pshell you heard right.. She wrote the book that started the conversation, and this lady invited her on to give these other people a platform and publicly disrespect the sister.
@Pshell2 жыл бұрын
@@Jihad__ wow! Definitely not cool at all and very disrespectful but she definitely held her own and I love how she carried herself!
@fatheroffibereconomics Жыл бұрын
What are you doing to improve anything?
@tiffaniejones18837 ай бұрын
shaharzad ali always lightning someone up
@brandonwilliams93822 жыл бұрын
She say “ohhhhhh that’s who we dealing with “ 😂😂😂
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
20:35 "shut up and listen to me..."
@MrS98VAC2 жыл бұрын
19:34 "I didn't say for slavery, I said our connection to it and how we're still processing it. Right, yes Sir."
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
11:20 has he got books?
@mrrdw772 жыл бұрын
The host sucked. She would ask a question. Then interrupt the answer with an emotional interjection. That was horrible and I salute Shahrazad Ali for her intelligence and ability to stand on the truth.
@kellyowens4728 Жыл бұрын
The thing about this is you can you see in retrospect who these people are and would become. I see the classicism of Michael Dyson. That I would not see as clear in some of his more recent interviews. It's like seeing them and us through the future.
@gregorywilson2124 Жыл бұрын
Dayum that sister put Eric Dyson in check with facts. In simple language that everyone can understand. She didn't fall for Dyson's okeydoke. I broke out laughing when she said "aahh so that's what we're dealing with". Not that there's anything wrong with it.
@Arron413 Жыл бұрын
She was talking about the Black Gay Republican.
@mrluvit8232 Жыл бұрын
extremely insightful & entertaining 😁👍
@devinicole12782 жыл бұрын
Dyson always been phoney.... 🦝🦝🦝🦝
@dprofessor1321 Жыл бұрын
I love sister Ali ..im definitely sharing her lol
@busajjamoses Жыл бұрын
i love this woman
@omoluabiorishaluabi Жыл бұрын
Sharazad Ali is one of the greatest thinkers, analyst and speaker I know. She is so brilliant to the extent that if you don't understand what she is talking about not even God can help you.
@memyself4ever12 жыл бұрын
Wow, things have not changed much in thirty years as far as debates like these.
@jaylaw.76602 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video!
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in!!
@fatheroffibereconomics Жыл бұрын
And? What are you doing to improve anything?
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@fatheroffibereconomicsstudying Amos Wilson and editing his work
@D2spencer Жыл бұрын
House Ninja 101. Listen to Michael Eric Dumb$$ and Jaron fighting for the European more that they fight for themselves
@phylliswilliams66292 жыл бұрын
SHALOM ONLY 2FREE MINDED PEOPLE ON THIS PANEL WAS SISTA ALI AND THAT YOUNG BROTHA. ARE PEOPLE ARE STILL DEAD SLEEP IN 2022. WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLES!!!
@prod.bylvwlee Жыл бұрын
Her point is simple. They did a study and found if you take a baby elephant and chain it to a small fence that it cant break from, feed it, and let it grow staying chained up, when you take the chains off the elephant wont ever leave. And if its still chained it wont try to break free from the fence.
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
Amilcar Cabral "return to the source"
@nefermutshai99202 жыл бұрын
This debate is why we still stuck in 2022 black people can't agree on nothing the blind in a coma.
@yaboycaloe Жыл бұрын
When you talking to an ignorant person they will ask sarcastic questions
@Masterquismoney2 жыл бұрын
SHAHRAZAD👑🌹✊🏼 WAS DA BRIGHTEST🌟 IN DA ROOM AS USUAL!🤷🏽♂️ WHEN SHE TALKIN, JUST STFU AND LISTEN..LOL..🤫 #BLESSINGS 🙏🏼
@joiisler89862 ай бұрын
That would be fine if she was Alone on a Lectern. This was a Panel Discussion, and she was exhibiting the very behavior that She tells us that Black Women should be “slapped in the mouth” for. (Her words. Not mine.) This conversation could have been far more enlightening had it actually Been a Conversation. She was not the only guest, and her point of view is not the only one. Insisting on that is also “slave master mentality.”
@eddielewis80749 ай бұрын
The host lost control 😅😅😅😅😅.
@rashardstallworth92402 жыл бұрын
This was a very disingenuous conversation because the host interrupted our Sister every time she tried to make a point about her book. So we as the listeners who have not read the book will never know what it’s actually about. That was done on purpose
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too beloved !
@MasterKhem2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she was very condescending telling Shaharazad to shutup. Who did she think she was? She asked a question and kept cutting her off when she answered. Then You got this college grads to talk over her, too. Please.
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterKhemtime to "soundly slap her in the mouth"
@blackman3964 Жыл бұрын
It's impossible to make sense of all this insanity without first acknowledging how did we get here , and the root of our problems here in North America began when we were bought to these shores .................. smile
@kamariatoure422 жыл бұрын
This is the same woman claiming black women are out of control, but she wouldn't let those men get a word in. Yelling and all smh
@keepsit100atalltime92 жыл бұрын
She has good points but she talks to darn much. Let others speak!
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@keepsit100atalltime9she said herself though that she was still raised in the US just like other women !
@erichaley67762 жыл бұрын
Too bad they can’t respect each other’s comment without interrupting each other! We just don’t debate properly
@berachiyahysrayl7584 Жыл бұрын
We have an ongoing holocaust : Yahuah shall cause you to be smitten before your enemies: you shall go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shall be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. DEVARIYM (DEUTERONOMY) 28:25 את CEPHER
@ceomosiahfit932 Жыл бұрын
Knowledge of SELF
@kmeeks92987 Жыл бұрын
Goes back to “slavery was a choice” but imma leave that alone
@miracle2933 Жыл бұрын
Lay It out QUEEN 👸🏽!!TEACH😊♥️🖤💚♥️🖤🤲🏾✊🏽🤲🏾😆😆😆😆😆
@omoluabiorishaluabi Жыл бұрын
Where are all these people now...are they still on the planet?
@4swhomadethatbeat Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows😂
@LyfeIsShortLive7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@dr.kween_kwani_b12 жыл бұрын
#MasterTeacher 🌸🌺💐
@cat75943872 жыл бұрын
such a shame Ms. Ali has to be around blacks like those
@elizabethgoodwin61584 ай бұрын
Brother Green you are in deniyal
@trangwuong7689Ай бұрын
Dyson, 2024: Done got his little wake-up call on national TeeVee. Lol
@prod.bylvwlee Жыл бұрын
They also did a study of little girls choosing dolls to play with. All girls chose dolls that looked like them, except black girls, 99% of them chose white dolls.
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
Please link to this study ! Further have you read George Subira Trower's take on this
Many good points were made in this segment, amongst the panel, but no one was listening. That's disturbing. But calling each other's understanding; which is more than likely truly verifiable; I believe will keep us in our condition even longer while we debate and argue amongst ourselves. They don't have any fear of our rise, as long as we keep doing this.
@Arron413 Жыл бұрын
Dyson threw the Black Republican under the bus by outing him in front of Shahrazad Ali.
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
Nas and Jay Z
@aj70092 жыл бұрын
Once he said Marion Berry 😳🤔
@aarondigby50549 ай бұрын
@12:25 Sis Ali scored big on that point
@dogblues4829 Жыл бұрын
What happened to Bev Smith
@RuthlessPragmatic2 жыл бұрын
Shaharazad Ali is a brilliant woman. However, she embodies the same characteristics she described the BW to have. She's unruly, uncontrollable, and loud. It's interesting. It gives even more credence to her book because she's speaking from a first person point of view. The sad part is if she would've broke out of that behavior her message could've resonated so much more. Because of the way she behaved on these talk shows, her message never reached the masses. I hope the authentic black people begin to change some of our unruly "keepin it real" hood behavior when we get upset. That is one advantage the sellouts have over us, they know how to conduct themselves so they are giving more credence in the eyes of the masses.
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! One thing I will say about Sister Ali is that she's always stated that her books are somewhat of a sobering message to herself as well. She's definitely openly admitted that her mindset at times is a by product of slavery too. What I've always appreciated about her is she never tried presenting herself as perfect however in most talk shows I've seen her in she displayed balanced behavior for the most part especially when she was on the Geraldo Show. Shahrazad Ali can get passionate but Islam has definitely structured & grounded her quite well.
@honestlygio78302 жыл бұрын
Who said black women are loud, unrully, and ghetto? The same people who call us N******. Smh it is our indigenous personality not ghettoness. It's called not putting up with nonsense and keeping it real. I think some of us have been conditioned by the very people who oppress us to label ourselves as they label ourselves. Do we label other cultures like Latino, Italians, or Europeans as being loud an ghetto we we hear them talking loud???? Absolutely not!! This is sad that some of us have subscribed to this and have become prejudice in this matter against our own people.
@RuthlessPragmatic2 жыл бұрын
@@honestlygio7830 It is not our indigenous personality, it is ghetto. Our ancestors did not act like this. Malcolm X was extremely passionate, no nonsense and always kept it real. Yet, he never displayed ghetto behavior. This new ghetto behavior is the result of 50+ years of our community being in a matriarch, the result of the crack era, the result of mass incarceration, the result of gangs and violence marketed to our people. This is destructive behavior and it is important to correct it and stop passing it down. Our grandparents would be ashamed of what we claim as our "personality" today.
@Banzii_Mavuso2 жыл бұрын
@@bravecoldwater9061 Big facts. Mama Ali was level-headed. Thanks for sharing this video with us. 💗
@MackeyDeez2 жыл бұрын
Well she is a black woman in discussion with another black woman.
@spacesandplacesoutthere Жыл бұрын
The hostess "are we still slaves?" With her hair French fried 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@devinicole1278 Жыл бұрын
Leonard green isnt FBA.... he has an accent
@Yungsadie8 ай бұрын
Those other brothers in the monkey suits and the host need knowledge of self before they step into a debate with individuals who has
@miracle2933 Жыл бұрын
Who is the Interviewer!??hope U have Evolved since this aired 😩😩😩
@sainttrunks19825 ай бұрын
Dang, i didn't get to see what happens when they comeback 40:23
@omoluabiorishaluabi Жыл бұрын
Sharazad Ali is completely right but it is difficult for them to believe
@charmicaedwards84432 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the female interviewer?
@freddy84792 жыл бұрын
Bev Smith
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
@@freddy8479what broadcast ? Are there others?
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
@@londonbowcat1 "OUR VOICES" hosted by Bev Smith on BET. (When that network was REAL, unlike THE ABOMINATION that it is now.)
@MastermindMentality Жыл бұрын
20:30 “Careful now…”
@Prssur3 ай бұрын
Eric Michael Dycen
@QuietBoyMusik Жыл бұрын
@7:04 DMX would be proud because she barked on his ass.😂
@londonbowcat1 Жыл бұрын
"I like p**sy / just not up in my face"
@autreced.6446 Жыл бұрын
This gave me a headache
@Beeanns Жыл бұрын
I swear on life it self I looooooove to hear sophisticated women speak 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹o it's so rare😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@haildredselassie5530 Жыл бұрын
Three is three slave there
@karlkookieman7759 Жыл бұрын
black people will never come together i mean neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@Tlazolteotl1729 Жыл бұрын
He has nothing to match her research but it trying to debunk it as subjective.
@kaofounder Жыл бұрын
I love Sister Shaharazad Ali but I hate how she conducted herself here. She talked and yelled over everyone, undermined the host's authority, and had zero respect for Dr. Michael Eric Dyson. The Messenger was serious about maintaining decorum and we should remember his lessons.
@Yungsadie8 ай бұрын
Lmfaooo that man said that’s Hogwash 😂😂😂 you chose the wrong debate to say that at brother
@vianneyjones46383 ай бұрын
Shahrazad Ali preavhes the truth, however she dominates the discussion, interrupting and not allowing the other guests to respond properly. The host needs to control the discussion.
@TheToneytone6 ай бұрын
WOW the former slaves arguing about the former slave owner and everyone think there right hick of a conversation thru
@powerplay4real174 Жыл бұрын
They all going of track but Mrs. Ali dead wrong,her and Shabazz both are absolutely in correct about their point of the Holy Bible, the do good to speak of the Elijah Muhammed doctrine and how he studied JW's books.
@bravecoldwater9061 Жыл бұрын
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad referred to the Bible as the ''Poison Book''.
@03TahoeRacing2 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to take the host...smh
@suec83375 ай бұрын
All talking loudly at once is typical.
@angelgardens73652 жыл бұрын
I got a headache 2 minutes in.
@ib7222 жыл бұрын
That's becuz ur Koon Slave 🤡🤡🤡📍📍📍
@angelgardens73652 жыл бұрын
@@ib722 that's cute coming from someone who can't spell.
@j5nnyt Жыл бұрын
I quit 15 mins in after listening to just the audio. Found it difficult to follow the discussion. Unfortunately , Shahrazad interrupted way to much
@dalechance1529 Жыл бұрын
24:55 mark...hogwash
@amgirl42862 жыл бұрын
Shahrazad writing a book about women submitting to men, but she overtalking everyone on stage. She clearly loves her community and has some good points, but much of historical information is inaccurate or out of context. I mean acting like Islam wasnt forced on black people is a joke. The oldest Christian bible was found in Africa. I think we need to rewrite the history books with all the facts, and evidence of the country, and the world in the context of its time- and pay every American to read it.
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
Originally both Islam & Christianity split in East Africa thus spreading to other regions of the continent. Christianity originated in the Horn of Africa while Islam originated in the Sudan! The first Muslims were Black Africans who developed a system that was originally designed to effectively unite indigenous people & counter the Greco-Roman government at that time as well as the Arab-Persian government. However Arabs infiltrated these traditions after invasions.
@amgirl42862 жыл бұрын
@@bravecoldwater9061 friend I will have to disagree with some of what you’ve said- but I am going to go back and check some historical resources after reading what you wrote. I love learning new info! The past is not there to judge , but simply to learn from. I don’t know why people have such a hard time debating history these days. ;) Thanks for the info
@bravecoldwater90612 жыл бұрын
@@amgirl4286 No problem beloved! It's difficult because history is constantly interpreted from perspectives. Just to give you some research points, the Hadith was written by Arabs & have little to do with the Quran. 90% of the world's Muslim population actually follow Hadith, not Quran. The two ethnic groups of focus in the Quran are the Muhajirun & the Ansar who were situated in Egypt as well as the Levant region. Historically Europeans called them Saracens (describing them as black). Lastly I'll also say that Islam originally had a divination system similar to Ifa or Vodun. Islamic divination was called Kimiyat.
@amgirl42862 жыл бұрын
@@bravecoldwater9061 thanks! See this is why we have to talk with one another- when I meet people from different schools I often find out we were taught two different stories about the same events ;) I will look into what you gave me! God bless you! Hugs
@janai51032 жыл бұрын
You the only one in the comment section with come sense.
@amarubilal9969 Жыл бұрын
First learn we not black peoples nor colored people , it’s not a nationality.
@bravecoldwater9061 Жыл бұрын
Black isn't a nationality however it is a colloquial descriptive term that has existed for eons. Your comment isn't relative to the subjects in the video at all.
@amarubilal9969 Жыл бұрын
@@bravecoldwater9061 so nationality doesn’t matter and the rest of the world has one but us wow. That’s crazy nationality connections you to everything. Our people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge
@JP-up3xv Жыл бұрын
@@bravecoldwater9061 it is relative we keep using terms that don't apply, truthfully have you ever seen a " "black" person, we are heavily melanated brown skin people, from light to dark, pale people aren't white either.
@bravecoldwater9061 Жыл бұрын
@@JP-up3xv There are jet black people in Gambia, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Congo, Sudan, India, Melanesia, Suriname, Haiti etc & yes I've seen people who are literally white as well. My initial point is these descriptive terms have existed for eons.
@JP-up3xv Жыл бұрын
Please send me some photos of these Black, and white people, black, like charcoal, or a car tire, and white like a cotton ball, or snow. I need to experience what you mention. Thank You in advance.
@mmi5833 Жыл бұрын
First get away those slave names Mr O'Neal you are Irish!!
@arthurhector7236 Жыл бұрын
ISLAM WAS INVENTED BY REAL ANCIENT NAME MAURI/ GREEKS AND ROMAN'S TITLE. MOORS , ACTUALLY THE FIRST EVER MAN MADE RELIGION !
@bravecoldwater9061 Жыл бұрын
False, Islam was a cultural continuation of the traditions found amongst the Aboriginals of the Nile Valley & the Indus Valley. The first people in history to hold the title Moor comes from Neb (aka Pharaohs) of so called Egypt who used the term Meri, thus Egypt's indigenous name was Ta-Meri ! The term Meri later crossed over into European languages becoming Merops in Hellene (so called Greek). The only man made religions that plague our world are the Indo-Iranian religions that Invaded the Indus Valley & the Levant, Roman Catholicism, as well as the religions of corrupt African kings & queens that want people to give them money offerings.
@fatheroffibereconomics Жыл бұрын
I don't see black pushing community gardens. Religion is allowing you all to hold yourselves down. Grow up and act right already.. again, I'm a solution man, who are you?