The Secret Meaning of Advent

[@samuelnicacio4621]

Excuse me, but how do I get my hands on one of those mugs?!?

[@shamelesspopery]

Glad you asked! Two ways: you can become a member at the $25/month level at shamelessjoe.com, ORRRR you could just buy one here: shop.catholic.com/shameless-popery-mug-with-color-inside/ . I just realized that it's also available as a travel mug, too! shop.catholic.com/shameless-popery-travel-mug-with-handle/

[@MonkeyBarCC]

Yesh pretty funny cut so obviously a plug but i would Still buy a mug because Joe is fantastic.

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

@@MonkeyBarCCnothing wrong with a subtle plug, no matter who is doing it, people have to make a living after all.

[@MonkeyBarCC]

@@birgittabirgersdatter8082yup. Like i said still gonna get amug. Its just funny Joe looks So uncomfortable plugging merch. I have bought his books and at least one of his video courses. He is brilliant.

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Make Advent Great Again.

[@Aethelhart]

You've heard of MAGA, but have you heard of MAGA?

[@Mr_Mcgee_]

The Priests in my diocese have been doing an excellent job at highlighting the importance of Advent as not just preparation for the coming of Christ in Bethlehem, but the preparation of the second coming this year! Offering my prayers for all the Priests 🙏

[@Circleofcocytus]

Lord, I needed to hear this today about Christmas burnout. I started to feel like I'm the only one who feels this way during this season. The rush, the constant scrambling to purchase and buy and acquire things during this month just puts me in a mood. we've let one of the holiest times of the year be co-opted by Hallmark for lack of a better term.

[@classicalteacher]

I'll pray you have a contemplative Advent.

[@supernerd8067]

You're not the only one. I usually wait until after Thanksgiving to celebrate the season. I will need to rewatch Joe's video to reiterate the message of Advent in me.

[@kevinbernal2038]

I'm actually on the opposite side, I love this time of year all the way through January. But I can see why burnout can occur for others. Hopefully this video renews you for this year and the coming years

[@shamelesspopery]

Oh no, you're (unfortunately) perfectly normal. Many to most Americans get stressed out by commercialized Christmas (www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2023/11/holiday-season-stress), which I think is a sign we're doing something wrong in trying to create secular 'peace on earth.'

[@Nate_Higgins]

Thank you. I'm almost 50 and new to this Christian world. As an Anglican, we heard the exact same message in church last Sunday. It's so exciting to discover this world that I've been ignorant of my whole life.

[@TurtleMarcus]

Reading the Shameless Popery blog like a decade ago was really important on my journey to the Catholic Church. I only discovered this channel two days ago, and have been listening almost non-stop. Joe Heschmeyer, Jimmy Akin, and Trent Horn are the kind of level-headed Catholic apologists (dare I say, intellectuals) we need in the Church right now, as many Catholics are deeply divided (TC, FS, whatever is happening in Germany, China etc.).

[@shamelesspopery]

I'm honored to have been a part of your journey home!

[@anitra7747]

@@shamelesspoperythe first video I shared of yours with my son he was put off by. However, as he has been drawn out of Protestantism and first into Orthodox, and now finally resting in the Catholic faith (pre-RCIA) he has come to rely on your discussions to help him formulate starting points of discussions with his wife and her family who are “Bible Baptists”. You’ve been so much a blessing to me in my own journey into the faith. I just had to share you. Blessed Advent and Happy New Year to you and yours.

[@shamelesspopery]

@@anitra7747 Glad to hear it! And tell him sorry for my making a bad first impression, that happens sometimes!

[@LaEsoterica]

6. Jesus didn't pink from the dead. That's all I'm going to say about that. 😅 I've only been Catholic a few short years. (Est. 2021.) Advent is quickly becoming a favorite season for me, even though it's penitential in nature. It's anticipating the Lord's arrival. I miss the Gloria (I LOVE the Gloria) but something about the waiting just does it for me. The expectant hope, I think. It's all still sort of new and fresh but I pray that I never lose this awe and wonder, that Advent never gets lost in the shuffle between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Happy New Year, y'all!!!

[@HighlyCaffein8ed]

How funny is it that I didn't even see the word "secret" in the title. I clicked on it because I saw "meaning" and "Advent" and I've been needing help connecting with Advent as my second year trying to bring Advent to my family.

[@shamelesspopery]

Wonderful! I hope this helped.

[@laurenatkinson1892]

Same!

[@damnedmadman]

Advent and Christmas also have a Eucharistic dimension, reminding us that the awaiting of Him, His coming and offering takes place during every Catholic Mass.

[@shamelesspopery]

Christ's coming in history, Mystery, and majesty!

[@SaintlySaavy]

Our Arch-Bishop’s homily said that on Sunday. “Why are we talking the end of the world on the first Sunday of Advent?” 😂

[@MotherLovingChristian]

My day was brightened by the advent of this video!

[@chardeOK]

YAY Thank you for making this! When you’d asked what are some topics I’ve had trouble finding info on in a past post (as someone wanting to convert to Catholicism), this was one of them. I was hoping you’d cover this topic 🥳. I’m just starting it and it’s already so helpful.

[@markimarrk5981]

What is the meaning of "YAY"?

[@chardeOK]

@@markimarrk5981 yay like woohoo lol

[@markimarrk5981]

@@chardeOKThanks, I’m just trying to learn the language 😅

[@chardeOK]

@ lol oh no worries 😊

[@mmeyerdc]

There is evidence that in some eastern churches in early Christianity, there were catechumens baptized at the end of the period. This is of course the same phenomenon that gave rise to Lent. Different churches, different liturgical seasons. (Saying these things is totally in tune with your reflections.) Both Advent and Lent are both properly opportunities to reflect on and deepen our baptismal commitments.

[@johnny6767g]

Great video.

[@SterlingJames]

Bro Joe! Thank you for herding me in the right mindful and spiritual Catholic direction. I’m gonna go throw money at Catholic Answers! Love you man.

[@seangallagher9580]

Thank you for another great post Joe

[@CarrieKing-p9w]

Awesome! Love this!

[@maryeconomou6573]

Thanks for this, God bless.

[@jacquelineyork988]

YES! DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!

[@BensWorkshop]

Many thanks!

[@j897xce]

Love the content. The microphone picked up some odd frequency that really made it a struggle for my sensitive ears. I got it done, watched it in parts! Thanks always!

[@CamiloSoares87]

"Christ was not actually born in december 25, it was a pagan holiday we christianised"

[@shamelesspopery]

Oh, that's a good one! And also an upcoming episode topic...

[@classicalteacher]

Says pagans, atheists and uneducated fools.

[@mikereddy9197]

Judas Maccabeus rededicated the temple on the 25th day of Kislev which is Hanukkah and occurs in December. The Christians replaced it with Christmas on the 25th of December. It replaced a Jewish holiday, not a pagan one.

[@divinoollave798]

The exact date of the birth is not of much importance and bear in mind the date is not a matter of doctrine. What is much important is that we celebrate (in proximity) the Incarnation of Christ -- the Word who became flesh and dwelt among us and saved us from our sins.

[@cameronbyers5710]

Extremely insightful and apt for our times. Thank you Joe! Also, an annual Advent fight: how early is too early for Christmas decorations and Christmas Music?

[@joelancon7231]

It should be noted that in both the breviary and Mass, the readings toward the end of OT are apocalyptic making the transition between advent and OT very smooth, among other things

[@jendoe9436]

I have been a bit of a Grinch towards some co-workers for putting up their Christmas decorations in their cubicles the day after Halloween. Fortunately we are all good friends so they know it’s more like gentle teasing on my part. 😅 But I do find it kind of annoying just how early Christmas decorations creep up in most stores nowadays. I expect such behavior from places like Hobby Lobby, not every store in the area. This year I am definitely trying to be more meditative for Advent and cultivating a prayer life reset. It’s been a semi-chaotic calendar year for me, so it’s nice to have some time to slow down and remember what it’s all about: The prophesied end of the world 😉

[@HighKingTurgon]

I love the Lectionary-it's such a stern reminder to me (easily distracted, frequently lax in devotion) that we BEGIN the Liturgical Year anticipating the END OF THE WORLD. Joe: get ready for the APOCALYPSE •sips coffee• John McClane came to bait Hans Gruber-a consummate liar, by the way-into seeking to defeat him while he held a captive people in bondage to amass wordly glory and wealth (an exceptional thief, after all). He passes through a trial like death to defeat this foe and ransom the hostages at Nakatomi Plaza. I think I just convinced myself that Die Hard is an EASTER movie.

[@vtaylor21]

I can understand why Advent is a lost season. After Halloween, people overlook Advent and look forward to Christmas Day. After December 25th, people are preparing for Ash Wednesday and Lent. We have Advent books. Stores are selling Advent calendars. (Lego got Advent calendars.) Yet, people still overlook the Advent season.

[@MrsYasha1984]

Those advent calendars can be part of the problem. Espescially those where you get something everyday. When Christmas comes, pepleare done getting stuff. I know children who have four advent calendars, all with stuff everyday. My own children are very happy with just a picture one, thanks be to God! My darling daughter is fasting sweets, except she gets them gifted or if we bake Christmas cookies. My son fasts youtube videos to prepare. They are wonderful childreen that bring joy all around. But my catechesis students give another picture... they were stunned at the thought of willingly giving up something during advent, which is seen more as Christmas time. It seemed noone ever told them about that possibility. Granted, it is my first year as a catechist, so they did not hear me rattle on about cool catholic stuff for long, so i hope i can plant some seeds. Poor catechesis is surely one of the reasons advent is losing it's flavour. Barely anyone going to mass and hearing the apocalyptic reading is another

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

In my family Christmas starts Christmas Eve, when the tree goes up and ends on Twelfth Night, when the tree comes down.

[@SteveSturdivant-y5z]

What an amazing video !!! Your insights are truly inspiring , better than i usually hear in my protestant ( dont't like that term ) church. Your're turning me into a Catholic . Dominus Vobiscum !!!!😊

[@Tatjana_Estere]

Beautiful episode 🥳😇! Thank you 🙏!

[@chasnikisher7006]

Thank you Joe for the bonus God bless you.

[@tytyvyllus8298]

The advent homilies at my parish have been emphasizing the 2nd coming aspect for the last several years.

[@iohannesfactotum]

Just got hammered by a winter storm here, 5 feet in two days. It was somewhat apocalyptic - trees down, power out for days. People wondering down the street. My old Independent Baptist congregation did a Rapture themed Christmas cantata when I was a kid and the connection between Advent (which they never referred to by name) and the Apocalypse has always kind of stuck.

[@shamelesspopery]

That is one way of getting into the Advent season! Yikes.

[@HumanDignity10]

This was a good supplement to the homily from our priest last Sunday, you helped me to understand it better. Thanks!

[@larrys4383]

Bishop Barton’s homily as well as Fr. Mike Schmitz’ are available on KZbin. Both very worthwhile regarding Advent.

[@ochem123]

A beautiful exposition of the Gospel Truth! Thank you, Joe, for your service to Holy Mother Church. O Come, O Come Emmanuel. ❤️‍🔥🇻🇦🇺🇸⚕️

[@MoliFrancis]

This was awesome !

[@nicholasroman940]

3:25 St. Nicholas is donning his wrist wraps

[@melissat9120]

Are you sure you have the right time stamp?

[@faiths6597]

I saw a video of Bruce Willis answering if Die Hard was a Christmas movie. He said no it’s not, it’s a Bruce Willis movie.

[@Chris82151]

My wife and I "fight" over when to decorate. I always want to do it slowly and reach a crescendo at Christmas. She wants to get it over and done. I have never won this fight.

[@tonyl3762]

Good list. The morality of the Santa prank could be added, though maybe not annual. I defend it, even though many discourage or condemn it.

[@donmorrissey1453]

Thank you for the interesting info. I'm new to the Catholic faith and found it very helpful

[@HockeyDad-t9k]

Lethal Weapon. Also a Christmas movie!!

[@joevasanu7459]

Joe, thanks for focusing us folks. I’ll only add from Bishop Barron’s sermon that there are really three comings we need to focus on during Advent: past, present and future. In addition to the Incarnation and 2nd Coming, he reminds us that Christ comes to us in our current lives. I think you got to that in a different way with “waiting, conversion and hope.”

[@shamelesspopery]

Indeed! Christ's threefold coming in history, Mystery, and majesty!

[@hyperclearphoto6573]

Die Hard IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!!!😂

[@cresildakhongwir30]

Thank you n God blesses you

[@TheFlyingHaggis]

Hi, Joe. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the recent 'Centre Place' Lecture - Papel Supremacy: How The Popes Came To Rule The Church. Thanks, and merry Christmas.

[@jd3jefferson556]

You should do a "what did Mary Know" episode. That'd be cool from you Joe

[@jquinnwilson]

Die Hard, definitely a Christmas movie

[@wispfire2545]

I've been torn about the idea of Christ's second coming. As a christian I try to make room in my heart for Christ and not let mundane things cloud my vision over what's truly important in life. I look forward to the second coming... but I fear for my loved ones who do not appreciate Christ as they should. Every day that Lord does not return, that's a sign that the heavenly work of salvation is not complete yet, because there are still souls to be saved. Christ returns only once there are no more souls to be saved, so if he does not return in our life times, then that's more time for my loved ones to discover Christ and repent. That's why I feel like we should be grateful for Lord's patience and grace for us, for that's the only thing keeping some of us from his judgement.

[@ji8044]

Jesus hasn't returned in anyone's lifetime for 2,000 years. Don't worry about your family.

[@wispfire2545]

@@ji8044 Doesn't mean it can't be tomorrow, even if it isn't very likely. We still should be grateful for Lord's patience.

[@RobH2Test]

I wish the Salvation Army bell ringer a happy advent.

[@Un-Apologetix]

The season of Advent is the season when we Catholics should pray for the Second Coming more than ever! Do not be afraid of the end times, embrace and welcome them!

[@ji8044]

The Second Coming is overdue by 2,000 years now.

[@scottgun00]

@@ji8044 It's only overdue if you know the date, and Joe covered who knows that in the vid.

[@esmereldakaffeeklatch8812]

Great video! Fight 8: “you shouldn’t tell your kids about Santa because it is a lie”

[@Stina1227]

This is why I taught my kids about St Nicholas 😅

[@shamelesspopery]

10000000%

[@macbride33]

Hebrews 9:27-28 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 27 And just as it is appointed for mortals to die once, and after that the judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin, but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him. Let's eagerly wait!

[@buffalonickels657]

Like a splash of cold water in the morning to wake us up.

[@happyhermit6197]

No no no no no no no no! Don’t end the video! Talk about the list!!! I need to know the things!!!

[@LaEsoterica]

1. Black Friday IS materialistic. 2. This season is Advent. Christmas begins on the 25th. 3. Yes, Die Hard is a Christmas movie. 😅 4. I dunno if St Nicholas punched an Arian, but I like to think he did. That'll learn em!! 5. She knew. 6. Because Jesus didn't pink from the dead. 7. Christmas hasn't even started but when it does, best believe I'm celebrating all SEASON long. 😁 These are just my arguments. Feel free to disagree. We can still be Internet buds. 😄

[@CHRISTENDOMINATOR]

The Lukan passage is about the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70

[@john-paulgies4313]

"When Jesus therefore was born in Bethlehem of Juda, in the days of king Herod, behold, there came wise men from the East to Jerusalem, Saying: Where is he that is born king of the Jews? For we have seen his star in the East, and are come to adore him. And king Herod hearing this, was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him." (Matthew 2:1-3)

[@eddiebermeo429]

Hence the twelve days of Christmas song.

[@VivaLeCRob]

Slight variant: "it's not purple, it's violet." "Santa Claus didn't throw money down a chimney."

[@Maranatha99]

Maranatha!

[@shamelesspopery]

User name checks out!

[@Maranatha99]

@shamelesspopery ...meaning??? I'm looking forward to Jesus' return.

[@shamelesspopery]

​@@Maranatha99 It's an online expression for when someone has an apt username. In your case, your user name is Marantha99, and your message is Marantha...

[@Maranatha99]

@shamelesspopery ah, hahaha...

[@joevasanu7459]

@@Maranatha99 Joe is right. And for all who aren’t familiar with the Catholic ensemble “Harpa Dei” kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaOmqHWAZZKNj5Isi=ZYJPQXO82s0W3YYu

[@bekfastdude8022]

by 2:15 the audio gets all wonky just sayin

[@LaEsoterica]

I thought that was just me. 😂 THANK YOU for saying.

[@shamelesspopery]

Sorry! Apparently there was some kind of exporting funkiness, but it's mostly audible on higher-quality headphones. Totally missed it!

[@RejiThomas1]

Thanks... Looking forward to Chrsitmas

[@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849]

Meanwhile Filipinos: Christmas starts September 1st (Blares out Jose Mari Chan and Mariah Carey on loudspeaker while taking out a whole wall of lanterns)

[@cskandrsgyrgy]

An Advent Fight: "That's Heresy, bro!" -said Santa Claus on the Council of Nicea, punching Arius in the face. (Copyright: Redeemed Zoomer)

[@whateverman13]

In connection with the Mass, should Advent Candles/Wreath should be part of the Catholic Mass (like the blessing and lighting of the candle)?

[@sueseelie]

It is at the parish I attend.

[@paul_321]

So there’s no Rapture ✅

[@jdotoz]

I would have said it begins at about first vespers on Christmas Eve.

[@christianmyhre7154]

Great

[@ochem123]

The four weeks of advent represent the 4000 years of history before Jesus was born. ❤️‍🔥🇻🇦🇺🇸⚕️

[@jendoe9436]

Extra comment cause I forgot about the Catholic Advent list. To add, I’ve been seeing a lot of online Catholics claiming Mary had NO sort of pain when birthing Jesus, so any depiction of her having any semblance of an intensive labor are ‘blasphemous,’ which I think drives a lot of non-Catholics and even reasonable Catholics away. Yea, Mary had a miraculous pregnancy and birth, but her body still had to undergo a lot of changes normally associated with pregnancy so a bit of pain or discomfort shouldn’t be thought of as a “heresy” against her immaculate state. Curious what is actual Church teaching on our understanding of what Mary might have experienced and what is more like personal theological opinion and (quite frankly) extreme Marian-ology. Another fun topic is Joseph’s age, as Mother Angelica humorously states “old men don’t walk to Egypt” but I can’t imagine him being a sprite young man just on the back cusp of adulthood. Some ideas on what sort of man Joseph would have had to be in order to be a good provider for a very young Mary and be trusted to guard her vow of virginity would be interesting to explore.

[@ji8044]

Mary never made any vow of virginity. Judaism has no such thing. Her marriage to Joseph would not have been legal in Judaism or even later in Christianity had she remained a virgin after Jesus was born. Right up to today failure to consummate a marriage is grounds for annulment in Catholicism, meaning no legal marriage has ever existed.

[@Traditional_Maybe]

I'm protestant, I have found different views about Mary's birth pain. I personally like the one where she felt no birth pain because she reversed the curse of child bearing pain. At least for her own labor. I don't think she had a vow of virginity but her and Joseph made the decision to remain virgins together. I don't believe Joseph was a old man or had other children. I believe he was a righteous man. My view of Joseph is shared by Jerome and some catholics but I don't know what the official teaching is for you. There is a 2nd century document called the proto evangelium of James that supports the immaculate conception and perpetual virginity. It does say Joseph was old with other kids. Eusebius claims the document was written by a sect that would abstain from worldly pleasure and not James. St. Thomas Aquinas points out errors in it aswell. It's still a good read.

[@ji8044]

@@Traditional_Maybe The Protoevangelium of James was declared heresy in 405. So it's quite ironic that the sole source of the dogma that Mary was a perpetual virgin is heresy.

[@jendoe9436]

@@Traditional_Maybe I have heard of the Proto Evangelium of James and the various scholarship and research people have done on it, but haven’t been able to read it all myself yet. I know there are some blatantly heretical things in there, some very odd things like Jesus turning clay birds real and smiting another kid when he was little, and some stuff that could be factual or at least the best thing we got from that time period. I take stuff like that to have grains of truth, but we have difficulty confirming it cause of our distance in time from it and the lack of collaborating sources. Stuff about Mary’s parents being named Anne and Joachim I can buy, and definitely the idea of Joseph being noticeably older than Mary. Still discerning if he had children from a prior marriage, but I tend to lean more towards “no” because none of the older siblings were there for Jesus to give Mary to, as even if she was only their step mother there would still be some obligation for them to care for her. I still think some pregnancy discomfort was experienced by Mary, only because if she did nurture Jesus in her womb then her body had to have undergone some change to accommodate him. And gravity still takes hold of ya when you got a growing baby in your stomach and walking around everywhere. I do know some ladies who had pretty long, bad labors that left them hoarse, and I know some who popped the kid out within an hour with minimum pain or issue. I acknowledge Mary was specially set apart so she could make a true “yes” to God to carry and raise Jesus, but I’m also okay with her experiencing some discomfort in the physical world. If she had an idea what her son would go through in his adult life, I have no doubt she would have desired to share in some of his pain during her labor. But then again, it’s all based on my own opinion and how I view Mary’s relationship with her son and God. Plus, God cursed Eve with multiplied childbirth pains, not an introduction to them. So I think there would always have been some discomfort with childbearing cause having one’s body shifting around physically, chemically, and hormonally is bound to do that to someone.

[@Traditional_Maybe]

@@jendoe9436 Makes sense and you're right it was a multiplication of pain not the introduction of it.

[@ghostapostle7225]

I'd say some of this lack of understanding comes from taking out the penitentiary character of Advent after Vatican II.

[@TheZealotsDen]

#makesundayholyagain

[@adrianng2280]

In other words, Santa is the anti-Christ :)

[@ApostolicStorm]

This was low-key a Rapture teaching. Be ready at all times.

[@Romans5.1]

Why would one want to celebrate Christ's birth? Christ has come, lived and died and rose again, and his people await his second coming with longing to see him. There's much debate as to exactly when the birth of Jesus occurred. Personally i don't believe it was the 25th of December. People need to be reminded the Jesus is not a baby every 25th, he sits at the right of God waiting till all his enemies are put down, the last enemy is death.

[@shamelesspopery]

Who needs to be reminded that Jesus isn't a baby anymore?

[@jacktracy8356]

If you do not know where you will go if you died right now then you deny CHRIST because you deny what HE said as follows: John 3:14 KJV "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the SON OF MAN (CHRIST) be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believes in HIM should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For GOD so loved the world, that HE gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believes in HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For GOD sent not HIS SON into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through HIM might be saved. 18 He that believes on HIM is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the NAME of the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD." 36 He that believes on the SON has everlasting life: and he that believes not the SON shall not see life; but the wrath of GOD abides on him. Note: A true believer is saved from hell, has eternal everlasing life, and is not condemned because CHRIST paid the penalty for sin which is death for us in our place. CHRIST said repent and believe this good news Mark 1:15 KJV.

[@ji8044]

Jesus never said he died for our sins. Original sin is not now and never has been a tenet of Judaism

[@jacktracy8356]

@@ji8044 Then why was HE crucified and say "it is finished." *** Hebrews 10:12 KJV "But this MAN (JESUS CHRIST), after "HE had offered ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS FOREVER" sat down on the right hand of GOD 14 For by ONE OFFERING (CHRIST shedding HIS real blood and giving HIS real body on a real cross) HE has PERFECTED FOREVER (saved) them that are sanctified (forgiven of all sins) 18 Now where remission of these (sins) is, "there is NO MORE OFFERING FOR SIN" (Parenthesis mine)

[@jamiejaegel7962]

How does a liturgical year take 3 years?

[@scottgun00]

It doesn't. Rather, to cover more Scripture in the liturgy, the readings are different over a three-years cycle, but the actual holy days are the same year by year.

[@ji8044]

I don't have any issues with people celebrating Advent, but again it has no Biblical basis. The earliest Christians never celebrated the birth of Jesus at all. The earliest depictions of a nativity scene are from the end of the 4th Century, pretty much like most other Christian ideas and organizations.

[@michaelbeauchamp22]

It most definitely does have a biblical basis. But maybe you mean it isn't explicitly prescribed in the Bible. Those are two different concepts entirely. I'm not surprised you don't know this since you're only a historian, not a theologian or biblical scholar

[@LaEsoterica]

1. If you have no problem with people observing Advent, why come and rain on our penitential parade? 2. Advent doesn't observe the birth of Jesus; that's Christmas. Advent is a penitential season that ANTICIPATES the birth of our Lord and Savior. There are miracles in the Bible (see the Magi story, for instance) about the anticipated arrival of the Lord. His arrival was also foretold. And Christians DID commemorate His birth. That is in the Bible (gifts of the Magi, anyone?). C. Jesus gave St. Peter and his successors the power to bind and loose. They then made observing liturgical seasons binding on the faithful. 4. Sola Scriptura is unbiblical. There's nothing in the Bible that says that the Bible is the sole infallible rule of faith. I forgot what letter I'm on. E? Happy New Year!!! I hope you have a blessed and safe Advent season. 😁

[@scottgun00]

​@michaelbeauchamp22 Right. The irony is that Catholics are held to standard that we have to show all our doctrines appearing whole, explicit, and often within Scripture, and yet _Sola Scriptura_ doesn't meet any of those standards.

[@ji8044]

You got every single thing wrong. "And Christians DID commemorate His birth. That is in the Bible " No that's a story about his birth. There is no evidence whatsoever that the early Christians celebrated the birth of Jesus anywhere. . "They then made observing liturgical seasons binding on the faithful. " The liturgical calendar didn't exist for at least 400 years after the birth of Jesus. "There's nothing in the Bible that says that the Bible is the sole infallible rule of faith." I didn't mention that

[@ji8044]

@@scottgun00 I never argue in favor of sola scriptura, however quite literally nothing in the New Testament would have been Scripture to Jesus. It didn't exist yet. So the ONLY things that Jesus could have been preaching about would be the OT, and more precisely Mosaic Law.

[@LuisEstebanGomezAlduncin]

Men, Join exodus 90 for a meaningful Advent season. 🚿

[@chasnikisher7006]

@LuisEstebanGomezAlduncin We can have a meaningful Advent season without joining Exodus 90.