SHAMSI FURIOUS AFTER HADITH REJECTOR MAN TRYING TO DIVERT HIS QUESTIONS......SPEAKERS CORNER

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[@abinthemix]

Shemsi's ”anyway I have to go..leave him brothers" line is becoming legendary.......🔥👏😄😁😎💯🔥

[@moarend8989]

abdul muflehi: i was thinking the same thing..lol, i estimate probably about 90% of his debates he brings up that line..lol

[@JustObserving7860]

abdul muflehi “ this is a nice book” I miss him saying that too lol

[@abinthemix]

@@JustObserving7860 "this is a present from me" lol

[@lulu-mb1kc]

Don't forget "Take care of yourself"😂😎

[@JustObserving7860]

“Logic dictates..” lol

[@Mimi-Maa18]

This guy is totally lost. It's unbelievable what we have come to.

[@jumatron2060]

We are in the age of confusion and lies. May Allah guide and protect us all. Ameen

[@thesonsofliberty6205]

so are you saying you are the guided .

[@lulu-mb1kc]

2:09 to 2:18 😂😂😂 Shamsi's accent makes everything funnier!

[@Burakius]

I cant believe there are people that say you dont have to follow hadith

[@lulu-mb1kc]

11:05 The Christian missionary jumped out of him 😣😂😭😂 Edit: 12:29 wow! He really is, I thought I was just joking!😧

[@320speed]

Lol so true 😂. Snakey behaviour 🐍

[@obito2511]

This guy came with something stupid extraordinary

[@msmashik]

This guy is from Christian missionary. Now trying differant way to deviate lol

[@TakeQQQ]

@seek mogol Camp David has really become Camp Satan. I mean how sick are you people, really.

[@320speed]

Ma'shallah I've seen alot of Shamsi videos and it's so clear that he is very knowledgeable. He's levels ahead of these debaters and has to go down a few levels to help them understand the answer.

[@haziuddinkadir2846]

He is not muslim. He rejects our nabi muhammad saw.

[@ismailmustafa5068]

11:05 im dead 😂😂

[@leadfarmer9396]

He asks a question and then says shamsi talks alot what a clown he has no knowledge just things that he has heard from other people

[@sufiyanahmad2860]

BIGGEST FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL IN THE UNIVERSE.

[@itsahmed450]

How do you know how to pray Namaaz/Salah? How do you know where to put your hands? How many Rakah's to perform? Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alyahi Wasalam said, words to the effect that whomever looks after an orphan will be like this with me on the day of Judgement (and put his forefinger and middle finger together). He Sallallahu Alayhi Wasalam isn't here now but we still do this don't we? How can you this guy be so ignorant and say what he's saying about Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wasalam?!

[@hibificational]

Oh dont worry, he has his own version of salah

[@itsahmed450]

@@hibificational 🤣🤣🤣

[@itsahmed450]

@Samya.R exactly! Unfortunately when we have people who say things such as this guy, we have this issue, instead of people helping themselves, they look to argue and cause problems.

[@itsahmed450]

@Iron Man why don't you show us how to pray considering you don't follow hadith? Have a nice day :)

[@itsahmed450]

@Iron Man even if it was presented to you, you'd reject it. Why don't you answer my question though? Who taught you how to pray namaaz?

[@astascend890]

Dear shamsi u r veryyyyyy good

[@ALORWAH]

- قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ ٱللَّهَ فَٱتَّبِعُونِى يُحْبِبْكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ - لَّقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِّمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا - يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ فَإِنْ تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ذَلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا - وَأَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَاحْذَرُوا فَإِنْ تَوَلَّيْتُمْ فَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّمَا عَلَى رَسُولِنَا الْبَلَاغُ الْمُبِينُ - فَلا وَرَبِّكَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ حَتَّى يُحَكِّمُوكَ فِيمَا شَجَرَ بَيْنَهُمْ - وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ رَسُولٍ إِلَّا لِيُطَاعَ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ - وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى إِنْ هُوَ إِلا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى - مَنْ يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ الله - فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ النَّبِيِّ الْأُمِّيِّ الَّذِي يُؤْمِنُ بِاللَّهِ وَكَلِمَاتِهِ وَاتَّبِعُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَهْتَدُونَ - وَإِنْ تُطِيعُوهُ تَهْتَدُوا وَمَا عَلَى الرَّسُولِ إِلَّا الْبَلَاغُ الْمُبِينُ

[@sohel_naikawadi]

Indeed he is out of the fold of Islam.

[@MrChiptatum]

SHAMSI IS FAR TOO INTELLIGENT AND WELL READ IN THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES AND THIS GUY SHOULD GO BACK TO THE NORTH AND STAY THERE..LOL

[@ismailmustafa5068]

Shamsi to funny man😂

[@thehonesttruth415]

shamsi is good i think he should debate CP (Christian Prince)

[@lesliesavage5605]

@@thehonesttruth415 Why not ask shamsi to PROVE where muhammad actually quoted verses from the Holy Bible and said that he was the fulfilment of them. Oh wait chickenshit shamsi will not attempt to do so because there is absolutely nothing from the teachings of muhammad that he can refer to as evidence lol

[@thehonesttruth415]

@@lesliesavage5605 hmm you have a good point.

[@thehonesttruth415]

@@lesliesavage5605 i would say mohamad didnt know much of the bible, thats why he mistook alot of things like mary being sister of aaron, and trinity being God jesus and mary etc etc.

[@stevenlamb6519]

We the Islamic community love brother shamsi.

[@omaromaros7170]

When we say this is the house of God , no one would say that the house is a part of God

[@rabborabbi1276]

May Allah guide Kamran

[@rabborabbi1276]

Iron Man First on all your are taking it all of the Kontext! If you read it all you can understand and some of the verses are for specific people and act you that you know better than the Imans, going to google and copy and paste and comment under videos😂😂 so calm down

[@AyubKhan-md4km]

Oh My God! Yet another sect 😤 Hadith Rejectors! What's wrong with the common sense of some of our Muslim brothers.. why are they becoming so ridiculous in their understanding. May they come back to the correct path! Thank you brother Shamshi for trying to explain to these lost brothers

[@samirahsamir6930]

😂😂😂 The white girl confuse those two saying both of them I’m The right Muslim no I’m the right Muslim 🥴 Astaqfurullah May Allah swt guide us to the right path 🤲🏾

[@denissolak569]

Anyone with an atoms weight of intellect can see who, in this instance is correct. We don't base our opinions on what what others think or say. I oppose Shamsi in many of his views, but not on this topic Ameen, to may Allah guide us, but the astaghfirullah implies that trying to prove batil views wrong , is in itself, wrong. Jazakallah khair

[@anittalolo]

He's not even a Muslim and that's so obvious.

[@joundi007]

Exceeept this hiiiimar hhahahahah so funny love u bro shamsi

[@SalafeeBošnjak]

I love you for sake of Allah shamsi

[@realdeal332]

Cameron is a pure clown. Why waste time with him

[@khalidpeacenowar4474]

BROda.. This GUY is Shia Taqiya.. *Between Shia and Christan = Setan..* 😅😅

[@puppetmasternostringsonme8293]

And kissing a stone is what ?

[@ardihoti4615]

@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 you are lost , that's why you are a puppet master , still playing with doll's

[@puppetmasternostringsonme8293]

@@ardihoti4615 its a job !

[@puppetmasternostringsonme8293]

Fulltime

[@abuhaneefa7422]

Shiatan

[@danh4435]

Allah guide that lady genuinely there in the first row. Hopefully genuine 😅

[@Khankhan-hv1lk]

Brother shamsi please don't waste your time with these ignorant people.

[@omarfarooq1350]

Shamsi you make everyone laugh when you talk

[@dodosback]

"Their Prophet" May Allah protect all the Muslims from this way of thinking. May Allah purify this world from any innovators of his deen.

[@anittalolo]

"Except of this HIMAAAR" INDEED.

[@stonezzrollerr5445]

(QS Al A'laq:19)

[@mdsaifuddinahmed2199]

shamsi :Who passed down the quran Quranist: error quranist 404 stopped working

[@Ishi79]

Christian missionaries are not so creative anymore.

[@beginnerplayschess4263]

He speaks so much

[@danh4435]

12:32 I think the truth came out. These guys most likely working for someone.

[@shuhelmiah7729]

Shamsi im glad u walked away, complete time waster

[@muslimman7143]

May Allah guide us all

[@rayandaas1695]

The end is near, people will start to abandon the Hadith.

[@taimur74]

Except this HIMAAR ! lmao

[@pray4paradise540]

Even the non Muslim understood

[@MrFoggy13]

Shamzi looks like hes come from the set of a film about the building of the pyramids.

[@humzakhan5922]

Where is Allah far away above his throne the throne is all of creation, there is nothing that can carry a god when Allah rose above the Arsh it signified his supreme stature and size over creation however Allah is very much present in his force and control (taqdeer) thus time and time again الله على كل شيء قدير God is in control of all things.

[@self-esteem9194]

he rejected the sunnah of the prophet mohammad

[@SAJEDMUNIR]

Shamsi exposes Liars

[@lioexport]

We have not sent down to you the Qur'an that you be distressed 20-2 The Most Merciful [who is] above the Throne established. 20-5

[@graphiconeinc]

he is a Christian in disguise. this is the new technic of Missionary nowadays.

[@user-el6xm2pk7x]

100% he will then turn the whole topic Jesus is God ahaha

[@eddyyusuf7034]

@@user-el6xm2pk7x lol

[@revelation333]

How, please explain

[@user-el6xm2pk7x]

@@revelation333 if you watch the clip he tried to justify that Jesus had a piece or essence of God within him using the Quran watch it again

[@revelation333]

@@user-el6xm2pk7x Ye jesus does I know but know one knows the meaning of that spirit except God. Allah is clear in the Quran that jesus is not God therefore we can't believe his God.

[@nisyan8621]

07:18 minecraft villager voice xD

[@nofridani1226]

This is the first time shamsi meet cameron i think

[@kobanichelsea3740]

Love Kurdish brother with Kurdish flag 👍also I'm a Chelsea fan 🙂

[@yobo5157]

5:35 😂😂😂😂

[@hakarsalam6388]

Kurdish flag 😍

[@abulailaalshishany9249]

Where this geezer come from?

[@omarhaddara6230]

Definitely a himarr

[@stevenlamb6519]

He came to argue with shamsi.

[@kamranahmed6446]

When Allah says follow Allah it means kalaam of Allah quran which even the quranists agree, then how come follow Rasool can't mean kalaam of rasool ﷺ?

[@sultanhussain9725]

These rejectors are rejectors of the entire revealation.If you ask him how you would act upon the commands of Allah without following Sunnah,say,Salah,Zakah,and other commands.

[@andytibbles998]

Shamsi is the best

[@pedromorales4359]

Shamsi,,godwilltakecarehimforliayinghecantellthetruth,

[@farhadmiah8968]

This Kamran doesn’t even know Arabic, he’s NOT even a learned scholar. He’s NOTHING! And comes to the park and argues.

[@shahkha4529]

That's basically the thing lol he only read the interpretation in which the writer use the hadith to explain things and thinks he knows it. If it was about to this guy we wouldn't know anything about the prophet saw lol

[@BillyBullshitter]

I don't think Shamsi understood what the other guy was trying to say, and it all got lost in a silly arguement. This would have been an interesting debate. The guy was basically saying you follow the message that Muhammed brought, ie: the Quran, rather than the sunah because Muhammed is not here himself to teach it, and you have to rely on sunnah/hadith, which are not divine in origin. The Quran is divine, and was promised to be preserved. This was basically his arguement. I think shamsi should and could have easily answered it rather than both of them starting to shout. Because it's a pretty good question, and an interesting subject.

[@TechieBunny]

The argument is still false because Allah said to refer to his messenger when in doubt meanwhile the dude denies the messenger because he's no longer here. What Shamsi is saying is that he isnt following what the Quran says by that logic. Sucks to see brothers and sisters take what they want from the religion because it doesnt work for them.

[@BillyBullshitter]

@@TechieBunny you missed my point. I said it worked have been an interesting debate rather than shouting, not who is right and wrong.

[@aminuaidara8601]

How can this people pray can someone tell me please.....???

[@anittalolo]

He's not a Muslim.

[@otmanboujettif5326]

Please brothers stop calling this brother names we have to teach him and show him the right path without slaging him off. Our beloved prophet would of never spoke to him like this if he did there would be no muslims around today.

[@alialwi876]

How is he going to perform the daily prayer by rejecting the hadith? . Generally, the quran mentioned what to do. The hadith mentioned/described on how to do it...if you reject the authentic hadith , you will be 'lost'.

[@levdinc5059]

The only duty of the messenger is to deliver the message" 5:99

[@bradstone5657]

It was the most truest thing Shansi said. " u think Muhammad was ONLY a postman" yes and that's what 5 99 says lol honestly no other religion use other books to explain their righteous book. U r putting down ur God by doing so. How is it perfect but needs to b explained. Muslims ask for contradictions all the time. That one right there is a huge one

[@levdinc5059]

Quran 7:185] Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in. My Question is if God says in the Quran which hadith besides the Quran do you believe in what will be your answer to God

[@revelation333]

Yes that's true therefore obey Allah and the messenger by obeying the Quran only.

[@revelation333]

@UCJfuguZX4TfMTODb1SnCA4g You can't read English bro. The verse is clear yet you disbelieve.

[@jananchoudhury1503]

@@levdinc5059 Where in verse in 7:185 says Qur'an? Indeed, 7: 184 mentions the defence of the "companion" who is not afflicted with insanity, the clear warner! Read the Holy Words of Allah in context. The hadeeth (narrations, statements, etc) to be warned are those that are *not* the Messenger of Allah - please and blessings be upon him. You make tafseer in isolation and would dare to explain without the tafseer of the previous verse. Indeed, 7: 186 is for you to take heed.

[@davudphilip4500]

Obey the Messenger means for Sunnis is following Hadith book. Right?.. So take the verse 4:80 Those who obeyed the messenger indeed obey Allah.. " So what it literally means for sunnis.. Those who obeyed /followed hadith indeed obey God. So no need Quran. Reflect. That's why correct meaning is Obey Allah... How by obeying Messenger.. How by following God's verses /.Risala / message. So anyone who does so is in fact obeyed God.

[@e-leven7407]

Exactly, Allah has made it easy to understand, Allah also claims this. You're exactly correct, its obey the messenger, Allah is very particular in his choice of words here but sectarians like to twist and say follow. Obey the message of the messenger, the source whom be Allah, simple. May Allah bless you brother.

[@kerrangzapplintv1733]

What Islam is that guy following? He is so lost and arrogant.. all sahabat following the sunnah and all the imams following the hadith.. who is he for not following the steps of those great follower of Prophet PBH.

[@medwho959]

You would rather debate with a tree than this guy. Obnoxious

[@latifsari877]

the only thing shamsi can do is talk a lot of bs dont let the other person speak or ask questions and use the circus next to him the level of the conversations are low. When he can do it proper people will learn because these are very important subjects.

[@stevenlamb6519]

Who is this dude wow.

[@escobakescobak3094]

Please learn Islam by Sanat and ulamak who have sanat from RASULLULLAH S.A.W. INSYAALLAH

[@jaydee6414]

I think the guy is saying, yes u are to obey "allah" & his "messenger", but to him the message was the quran, not ahadith or sira.

[@Wdrzzz]

Are u a muslim?

[@abdurrahmanhabeeb633]

I urge you to please read this, it took a long time to type this and i sincerely hope you will find it beneficial. If you don’t read it, just know that you don’t want to hear proof because your rejection of the sunnah is not valid. What is a hadith- literally it is a statement. You claim you love Allah? let’s test that out. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur’ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Quran 3:31 If you love Allah and want Him to love you, then follow the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him him). Truly i fear for you, i fear that you will find on the day of judgment what you were not expecting because anyone who denies just part of the sunnah and the prohibitions and commandments and the teachings of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) knowingly (knowing Allah commands us to follow him, and to those who follow other than him are the astray, and the proof is established.) is a disbeliever. So how about denying ALL of it. Allah the Mighty and Majestic said [in the Qur’an]: “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)” 59:7 And this one says, I only take from the Qur’an. “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it” He says, No, I won’t take. What sort of speech is this?! Allaah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63] The Quran is preserved through ahadith from the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. The Quran is preserved through authentic chains of narrations. Same as the Hadith. They have been rigorously authenticated. Allah promised to protect the Quran and the Hadith: ‎وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ And We sent down to you the Remembrance (dhikr), that you may make clear to the mankind, what has been sent down to them and that they may reflect. Quran 16:44 this is referring to the hadith because it is talking about the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) making clear to people (explaining) the Quran (what has been sent down to them). The hadith explains the Quran (for example: The quran says: pray, we learn from the hadith how to pray. and same with zakat and fasting and all of the actions) {Indeed, it is We who sent down the Remembrance (dhikr) and indeed, We will be its guardian.} (Al-Hijr 15:9) Here the word Dhikr is used, the same word used when referring to the sunnah in the verse i mentioned before this. Allah promises to protect it, the Quran and sunnah are called dhikr (in the Quran itself) How can u say you follow the Quran when you don’t follow the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. How do you think his companions practiced islam? you think they rejected what he had to say and said i will only listen to the Quran when the quran was revealed to him and when it says to Obey Allah AND His messenger in the Quran. How can you claim to follow the quran when it says to obey the messenger and whatever the messenger has prohibited you from doing, don’t do it. You can’t say that you don’t trust people to narrate it, then how do you believe in the quran when the Quran was narrated from people and authenticated chains of narrations. Please understand that the shahadah is: I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah Alone and i testify that Muhammed is His messenger. You can’t fulfill the shahadah if you deny the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) How do you know how to pray? how to pay zakah? how to fast? how to live????? I advise you, do not follow your desires, there is innumerable proofs in the quran to follow the sunnah and there is not one single proof that says that you follow otherwise. You must submit to the Will of Allah, there are somethings we cannot understand with our intellect and due to our ignorance we reject it, but with regards to the unseen, it is impossible for us to fully comprehend it and understand how it works, so if there is anything in the Quran and hadith, you know it is revelation, you know that it is from the unseen and if i can’t comprehend it, i still believe in it since it is revelation from the All- Knowing. You need to stop following your desires or doing whatever you want to do because if you reject the hadith it seems very convenient so you can reject most of what we are told to do and stay away from. That way you can follow your desires and still convince yourself you’re on the truth. The truth is established and clear, if you deny, wallahi i fear for you and i will make dua for you. But ask Allah sincerely to guide both me and you. May Allah guide us all!

[@freedomforthebrave]

Allah swt is closer to you then your juggler vane it dont mean Allah swt is in you it means the two angels that are on your left and right I think he needs to read the full part of the quran where it says that not just take one line out of it

[@2212funkyfresh]

Shams is very smart but he’s constantly getting into shouting matches and it makes me not want to watch his debates as much

[@AlphaOmega888]

1:57 wow more proof Shamsi the Mahdi lol.. 6:26 catches Shamsi off guard. EDIT: wow watching to the end, this is the *first time* it seems Shamsi has lost (only because he didn't explain his claims). I recently found a *CLEAR VERSE* in Quran that says Quran Alone is NOT ALLOWED and means you are a disbeliever! -Surat 4:59 Believers, *OBEY* God and the Messenger and *THOSE AMONG YOU* and those *WHO HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED* with *AUTHORITY*

[@latifsari877]

also everytime the clown behand the camera and standing there acting like it is a football match cheering for 1 guy really to laugh

[@wire731]

This guy is arrogant,not good.

[@Foralluhaterz]

The only thing the Quranist got righy is that Allah is closer to you than your jugular vein, but salafis believe he is above the throne, this belief is refuted by the masses.

[@UmarIbnAlKhattab1]

No its not. Above his throne is in the Quran Allah is Nearer to Man than his Jugular Vein: An Analysis The concluding part of verse [ 16] says: نَحْنُ أَقْرَ‌بُ إِلَيْهِ مِنْ حَبْلِ الْوَرِ‌يدِ (We are closer to him than [ his ] jugular vein). The 'closeness' in the verse, by consensus of scholars, refers to "nearness in terms of all-encompassing knowledge" not in terms of physical closeness. In this manner, the verse means that Allah's power and knowledge has so encompassed man from within and without that His power and knowledge is nearer to him than his own jugular vein.

[@mesh97__]

Donkey....!? XD

[@petramarissa4904]

The real donkey.....in the park.

[@kenneththugge6428]

That's why you need al messiah

[@DgangstA]

Shamsi rude

[@revelation333]

Yes his rude and also made an error on two verses he quoted.

[@BlackDUST..]

Kamran the big crybaby of speakers corner. !

[@lifeafterlife3990]

The guys a clown.

[@Notrandomlikeyou]

Bro the answer is simple. What you guys call hadeeth is not written by prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. It is written by someone else on the name of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Hence following hadeeth is not following prophet. It's like following historians. Moment of truth 😉

[@fayaqun0]

Those are the words of Muhammad(pbuh) and collected by people of knowledge.

[@Notrandomlikeyou]

@@fayaqun0 Then why does it go against Quran?

[@Notrandomlikeyou]

@@fayaqun0 We all know those are not the words of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, those are the words of this and that.

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

If you have a problem with the prophet being a “ postman “ then you’re asserting that the prophet ASSISTED The Almighty.....there’s no 3rd option. Do you see the stupidity of these people? Either accept the prophet was a “ postman “ or associate partners with God... go ahead! Shamsi is lucky I wasn’t there wallahi

[@howtofordummies6582]

Yep Assisted by explaining to idiots like you how to understand and follow the Quran, doesn't make him a partner..

[@ricbla3499]

@@howtofordummies6582 the Quran says to be clear (12:1) and explained in detail (6:114)

[@howtofordummies6582]

@@ricbla3499 Explained by who?

[@ricbla3499]

@@howtofordummies6582 by Allah. Do you think that Allah does not know how to talk clearly? The Quran is clear

[@chihabahmed5207]

@@ricbla3499 also said, if you do know something then go and ask those who are given knowledge. The Quran says, there ayat that are clear and there those that are not, as for those who follow their desires , they leave that which is clear and they go for the ambigous. Just like the christians The leave the verse that says, the father is greater than I I by mself can do nothing etc and they go for the verse that says, I and the father are one, forgetting the context of that

[@Roman-oe4rg]

I’m not rejecting all of the Hadith, but about Mahdi and Dadjjal it’s not in the Quran ! Allah loves our prophète and we love him but it’s not an excuse for us to be stupid and blind about some Hadith ! Ummah is preferring Hadith to Quran and you go to twist the words of the Quran so it can coincide with your interpretation... why ?

[@abdurrahmanhabeeb633]

I urge you to please read this, it took a long time to type this and i sincerely hope you will find it beneficial. If you don’t read it, just know that you don’t want to hear proof because your rejection of the sunnah is not valid. What is a hadith- literally it is a statement. You claim you love Allah? let’s test that out. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur’ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Quran 3:31 If you love Allah and want Him to love you, then follow the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him him). Truly i fear for you, i fear that you will find on the day of judgment what you were not expecting because anyone who denies just part of the sunnah and the prohibitions and commandments and the teachings of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) knowingly (knowing Allah commands us to follow him, and to those who follow other than him are the astray, and the proof is established.) is a disbeliever. So how about denying ALL of it. Allah the Mighty and Majestic said [in the Qur’an]: “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)” 59:7 And this one says, I only take from the Qur’an. “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it” He says, No, I won’t take. What sort of speech is this?! Allaah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63] The Quran is preserved through ahadith from the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. The Quran is preserved through authentic chains of narrations. Same as the Hadith. They have been rigorously authenticated. Allah promised to protect the Quran and the Hadith: ‎وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ And We sent down to you the Remembrance (dhikr), that you may make clear to the mankind, what has been sent down to them and that they may reflect. Quran 16:44 this is referring to the hadith because it is talking about the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) making clear to people (explaining) the Quran (what has been sent down to them). The hadith explains the Quran (for example: The quran says: pray, we learn from the hadith how to pray. and same with zakat and fasting and all of the actions) {Indeed, it is We who sent down the Remembrance (dhikr) and indeed, We will be its guardian.} (Al-Hijr 15:9) Here the word Dhikr is used, the same word used when referring to the sunnah in the verse i mentioned before this. Allah promises to protect it, the Quran and sunnah are called dhikr (in the Quran itself) How can u say you follow the Quran when you don’t follow the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. How do you think his companions practiced islam? you think they rejected what he had to say and said i will only listen to the Quran when the quran was revealed to him and when it says to Obey Allah AND His messenger in the Quran. How can you claim to follow the quran when it says to obey the messenger and whatever the messenger has prohibited you from doing, don’t do it. You can’t say that you don’t trust people to narrate it, then how do you believe in the quran when the Quran was narrated from people and authenticated chains of narrations. Please understand that the shahadah is: I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah Alone and i testify that Muhammed is His messenger. You can’t fulfill the shahadah if you deny the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) How do you know how to pray? how to pay zakah? how to fast? how to live????? I advise you, do not follow your desires, there is innumerable proofs in the quran to follow the sunnah and there is not one single proof that says that you follow otherwise. You must submit to the Will of Allah, there are somethings we cannot understand with our intellect and due to our ignorance we reject it, but with regards to the unseen, it is impossible for us to fully comprehend it and understand how it works, so if there is anything in the Quran and hadith, you know it is revelation, you know that it is from the unseen and if i can’t comprehend it, i still believe in it since it is revelation from the All- Knowing. You need to stop following your desires or doing whatever you want to do because if you reject the hadith it seems very convenient so you can reject most of what we are told to do and stay away from. That way you can follow your desires and still convince yourself you’re on the truth. The truth is established and clear, if you deny, wallahi i fear for you and i will make dua for you. But ask Allah sincerely to guide both me and you. May Allah guide us all!

[@adilrasheedonline]

A hadith shouldn't be confused with the statements or actions of the prophet. Those who claim hadith to be the words or actions of the prophet run high risk of attributing falsehood to the prophet no matter how nice they sound or appear. Any hadith is actually an alleged saying attributed to the prophet and propagated through a chain of 7-8 narrators over 200 years or more. What we have (for eg. in Bukhari collection) are 7000+ hadith categorized by Bukhari (not by Allah or the prophet) as authentic from a total collection of 700,000 hadith circulating at his time. Hadith are mere hearsay. It is something like A heard from B who heard from C who heard from D....who heard from G who claimed that the prophet said / did so and so. In modern terminology this is called Chinese Whisper, which has no credibility in preserving information. Try circulating a paragraph of text through a chain of 10 narrators and verify for yourself. The methodology that was used to authenticate hadith is called ``Sound chain of narration". In this, the character, sincerity and mental health etc. of narrators in a particular chain was evaluated by hadith compilers several decades / centuries after the narrators had died. This act of character evaluation involved backbiting and slandering which is considered a sin in Islam according to the Quran. The organized slandering and backbiting was conducted at an unprecedented scale in human history. In Quran, Allah tells us that there were hypocrites among the sahaba and the prophet had no idea about them. Ironically, in one hadith prophet is alleged to have said that on the day of judgment some of his companions will be take away from him and Allah will inform about their bad deeds. It is interesting how hadith collectors could evaluate the characters of those narrators who were dead long back and even prophet himself was not aware of their character. The most authentic collections of Bukhari and Muslim do not match 100\% because of personal biases and judgment. These two major collections are rejected by the Shiits sect of Islam as unreliable. Thus is can be said that belief in a certain set of hadith automatically divides the Muslim ummah into at least two distinct sects: Sunni and Shiits. Such sectarian divide is strictly prohibited by Allah. There is a consensus that there is not a single hadith in the entire collection which can be considered a verbatim quotation from the prophet. Just like majority of Jewish, Christian, Hindu scholars can be wrong about the basic of religious beliefs it should not come as a surprise that the majority of Muslim scholars are also wrong. In fact, Quran criticizes those people who follow scholars, ulema blindly and take them as Gods. One can find story tales, blasphemy of the highest order, contradictions, unscientific and illogical stuffs attributed to the prophet. In fact one can use hadith to project the prophet with diametrically extreme and opposite personality characterwise. Most of the abuse that the enemies of Islam hurl upon our prophet has some basis in these hadith collections. Although, the clergymen and hadith followers claim that they let Quran superseded hadith, there are numerous occasions where the verse from the Quran are abrogated by hadith despite a command from Allah that none (including the prophets) can abrogate his verses. I would recommend our hadith (sectarian books of contradictory "authentic" hadith collections) worshipping brothers to come out of ignorance and realize the beauty of Quran alone.

[@mohamedabdillahi5282]

adil rasheed read Bukharis biography the muhaditheen devoted there entire life to the study of Hadith. Answers the questions bought by Shamis instead of jumping the gun and talking about Hadith first you must be establish what those verses mean intellect will lead you to study Hadith not desires.

[@shaharuddinmathasan3530]

Orang bodoh jahil yang menolak hadith, hadith tidak dijadikan rujukan maka berleluasalah pemikiran sesat yang masuk dalam kehidupan beragama, pengumpul hadith terdahulu mempunyai disiplin ilmu yang ketat untuk merekodkan sesuatu hadith, kamu manusia kemudian yang lemah iman dan cetek pemikiran tidak dapat menilai ketinggian adab ilmu hadith. Pooodah chit

[@lyndonchapman2057]

The pretenders of islam so much confusion, you were warned not to break up your religion this is the end result.

[@whatsmyname5979]

And please dont go to English dictionary 😂😂😂

[@kennyjharland]

The only thing that divides the muslims into 72 sects is the hadith is it not? Due to various sects accepting different hadith and understandings? Or is that statement not a fiar statement to make? astaghfirullah for my/our ignorance alhamdulillah for everything else, Allah knows best. I sometimes think how beautiful united the ummah would be if the prothet (saw) was here, and then I remembered there was even sects the prothet (saw) warned the ummah about when he was alive!!...astaghfirullah Allah warned us it was a test 🤲 subhanallah wa bihamidi he really knows how to test us 😂 astaghfirullah astaghfirullah astaghfirullah.

[@tayloryoung4974]

Actually muslims are not divided because of hadith, rather because of themselves, for ex 12er shias believe ali(ra) and the 12 imams are not regular humans they attribute Devine attributes to them , this is not because of misunderstanding of the hadith or the quran rather they should blame themselves, another example is using philosophy and logic , people's use of logic is imperfect, so that imperfect use of logic led them to distort the names and attributes of Allah that he revealed in the Quran and this actually led to the formation of many sects that are non shia like the mutazila, jahmia , qadiria, ashaira, maturidia... so you can't blame hadith or the Quran, if people followed the quran and hadith instead of their desires there would be no sects and we would be one United ummah.

[@abdurrahmanhabeeb633]

I urge you to please read this, it took a long time to type this and i sincerely hope you will find it beneficial. If you don’t read it, just know that you don’t want to hear proof because your rejection of the sunnah is not valid. What is a hadith- literally it is a statement. You claim you love Allah? let’s test that out. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur’ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Quran 3:31 If you love Allah and want Him to love you, then follow the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him him). Truly i fear for you, i fear that you will find on the day of judgment what you were not expecting because anyone who denies just part of the sunnah and the prohibitions and commandments and the teachings of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) knowingly (knowing Allah commands us to follow him, and to those who follow other than him are the astray, and the proof is established.) is a disbeliever. So how about denying ALL of it. Allah the Mighty and Majestic said [in the Qur’an]: “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)” 59:7 And this one says, I only take from the Qur’an. “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it” He says, No, I won’t take. What sort of speech is this?! Allaah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63] The Quran is preserved through ahadith from the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. The Quran is preserved through authentic chains of narrations. Same as the Hadith. They have been rigorously authenticated. Allah promised to protect the Quran and the Hadith: ‎وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ And We sent down to you the Remembrance (dhikr), that you may make clear to the mankind, what has been sent down to them and that they may reflect. Quran 16:44 this is referring to the hadith because it is talking about the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) making clear to people (explaining) the Quran (what has been sent down to them). The hadith explains the Quran (for example: The quran says: pray, we learn from the hadith how to pray. and same with zakat and fasting and all of the actions) {Indeed, it is We who sent down the Remembrance (dhikr) and indeed, We will be its guardian.} (Al-Hijr 15:9) Here the word Dhikr is used, the same word used when referring to the sunnah in the verse i mentioned before this. Allah promises to protect it, the Quran and sunnah are called dhikr (in the Quran itself) How can u say you follow the Quran when you don’t follow the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. How do you think his companions practiced islam? you think they rejected what he had to say and said i will only listen to the Quran when the quran was revealed to him and when it says to Obey Allah AND His messenger in the Quran. How can you claim to follow the quran when it says to obey the messenger and whatever the messenger has prohibited you from doing, don’t do it. You can’t say that you don’t trust people to narrate it, then how do you believe in the quran when the Quran was narrated from people and authenticated chains of narrations. Please understand that the shahadah is: I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah Alone and i testify that Muhammed is His messenger. You can’t fulfill the shahadah if you deny the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) How do you know how to pray? how to pay zakah? how to fast? how to live????? I advise you, do not follow your desires, there is innumerable proofs in the quran to follow the sunnah and there is not one single proof that says that you follow otherwise. You must submit to the Will of Allah, there are somethings we cannot understand with our intellect and due to our ignorance we reject it, but with regards to the unseen, it is impossible for us to fully comprehend it and understand how it works, so if there is anything in the Quran and hadith, you know it is revelation, you know that it is from the unseen and if i can’t comprehend it, i still believe in it since it is revelation from the All- Knowing. You need to stop following your desires or doing whatever you want to do because if you reject the hadith it seems very convenient so you can reject most of what we are told to do and stay away from. That way you can follow your desires and still convince yourself you’re on the truth. The truth is established and clear, if you deny, wallahi i fear for you and i will make dua for you. But ask Allah sincerely to guide both me and you. May Allah guide us all!

[@kennyjharland]

@@abdurrahmanhabeeb633 thank you for your efforts but I dont entirly reject hadith I just don't trust them like I do the Quran, and its not the prothet (saw) i don't follow? And how can you say i don't follow him when I follow the book he presented the book our rab says is complete? Its not the prothet I dont trust or don't want to follow! And i dont think its fair you make them accusation but i appreciate why you would. If he was here today I would follow his every step and I would probably want to write everything down which is ironic! But I wouldn't suggest people put my experiences with the prothet over the book he presented on Allah's behalf. Our prothet and guidance is Muhammad (saw) and the Quran, it is not al bukari ibn abass or any of the other companion who's saying have been passed down through translation and through the whispers of hundreds of men! May Allah be pleased with them all and forgive thier errors and reward their deeds but regardless of their deserved admiration. I can say there is doubts in hadiths genrally speaking there isn't any with the Quran! remember Allah has no partner! and he sends us his messangers and we should follow the message of those messangers. We criticise and question the bible as its the sayings of paul Peter John and so on and it can't be entirely trusted as its not jesus, but we still take heed from the books..for me the bible torah and hadith all have beneficial actions and advise we can take to bring us closer no doubt! But I wouldn't let them entirely dictate my life. Jazzakallah for your efforts may Allah help us to please him in this world and the next.

[@sharps8726]

Quran only really opened up my mind.

[@omaromaros7170]

The sunna will open it even more , you can't appreciate one without the other cause both of them are a revelation from God

[@ashshah8995]

@@omaromaros7170 no it won't.

[@omaromaros7170]

@@ashshah8995 really why's that

[@Quran_Alone_Dawah]

@@omaromaros7170 What you said right now is shirk at the highest level.

[@admirosmani3765]

​@@Quran_Alone_Dawahhow?

[@lugattabe6761]

Akhi shamsi why you spokes with Kurdish?? They don't believe

[@UmarIbnAlKhattab1]

Kamran is pakistani

[@BelovedFriend_]

Shami got a real man to discuss. What a gentle man kamran is! (Alhamdulillah)

[@user-rh6js5kn9d]

U serious? Lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TechieBunny]

So a Christian in disguise is a real man?

[@BelovedFriend_]

@@TechieBunny I don't get you! Pardon please.

[@2212funkyfresh]

Trippin

[@user-gy2hp7hq1z]

i am looking a women for marry me

[@atribecalledbaniadam3346]

The Quranite stand is a legitimite stance. There is one Quran which is protected yet every sect has diffirent ahaadith collections. How do you prove which ahaadith collection is the right one?

[@user-pb4xv6jx1i]

What on earth are you talking about, every sect has a different collection of ahadith??? SubhanAllah, Islam isn’t Christianity!! May Allah guide you and teach you. The authentic narrations from the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم , Allah has preserved them as He preserved the Quran. The way the Quran came to you through the companions, the Sahaba رضي الله عنهم أجمعين is the same way the sunnah came and was preserved.

[@atribecalledbaniadam3346]

@Forex Life All religions including islam split up in more than 70 sects. You should do your homework before you step into a debate as this is common islamic knowledge.

[@atribecalledbaniadam3346]

@Forex Life Since you asked me what sect has a diffirent collection. The statement I made is a historical fact while you denied history plus the ahaadith you claim to believe in. Go fool yourself you damned ostrich. The whole world can read that stupid question of yours which you are denying.

[@abdurrahmanhabeeb633]

I urge you to please read this, it took a long time to type this and i sincerely hope you will find it beneficial. If you don’t read it, just know that you don’t want to hear proof because your rejection of the sunnah is not valid. What is a hadith- literally it is a statement. You claim you love Allah? let’s test that out. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): "If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur’ân and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Quran 3:31 If you love Allah and want Him to love you, then follow the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him him). Truly i fear for you, i fear that you will find on the day of judgment what you were not expecting because anyone who denies just part of the sunnah and the prohibitions and commandments and the teachings of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) knowingly (knowing Allah commands us to follow him, and to those who follow other than him are the astray, and the proof is established.) is a disbeliever. So how about denying ALL of it. Allah the Mighty and Majestic said [in the Qur’an]: “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)” 59:7 And this one says, I only take from the Qur’an. “And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it” He says, No, I won’t take. What sort of speech is this?! Allaah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “. . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63] The Quran is preserved through ahadith from the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. The Quran is preserved through authentic chains of narrations. Same as the Hadith. They have been rigorously authenticated. Allah promised to protect the Quran and the Hadith: ‎وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ And We sent down to you the Remembrance (dhikr), that you may make clear to the mankind, what has been sent down to them and that they may reflect. Quran 16:44 this is referring to the hadith because it is talking about the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) making clear to people (explaining) the Quran (what has been sent down to them). The hadith explains the Quran (for example: The quran says: pray, we learn from the hadith how to pray. and same with zakat and fasting and all of the actions) {Indeed, it is We who sent down the Remembrance (dhikr) and indeed, We will be its guardian.} (Al-Hijr 15:9) Here the word Dhikr is used, the same word used when referring to the sunnah in the verse i mentioned before this. Allah promises to protect it, the Quran and sunnah are called dhikr (in the Quran itself) How can u say you follow the Quran when you don’t follow the prophet muhammad peace be upon him. How do you think his companions practiced islam? you think they rejected what he had to say and said i will only listen to the Quran when the quran was revealed to him and when it says to Obey Allah AND His messenger in the Quran. How can you claim to follow the quran when it says to obey the messenger and whatever the messenger has prohibited you from doing, don’t do it. You can’t say that you don’t trust people to narrate it, then how do you believe in the quran when the Quran was narrated from people and authenticated chains of narrations. Please understand that the shahadah is: I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah Alone and i testify that Muhammed is His messenger. You can’t fulfill the shahadah if you deny the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) How do you know how to pray? how to pay zakah? how to fast? how to live????? I advise you, do not follow your desires, there is innumerable proofs in the quran to follow the sunnah and there is not one single proof that says that you follow otherwise. You must submit to the Will of Allah, there are somethings we cannot understand with our intellect and due to our ignorance we reject it, but with regards to the unseen, it is impossible for us to fully comprehend it and understand how it works, so if there is anything in the Quran and hadith, you know it is revelation, you know that it is from the unseen and if i can’t comprehend it, i still believe in it since it is revelation from the All- Knowing. You need to stop following your desires or doing whatever you want to do because if you reject the hadith it seems very convenient so you can reject most of what we are told to do and stay away from. That way you can follow your desires and still convince yourself you’re on the truth. The truth is established and clear, if you deny, wallahi i fear for you and i will make dua for you. But ask Allah sincerely to guide both me and you. May Allah guide us all!

[@abdurrahmanhabeeb633]

my guy, different sects don’t have different collections. Some deny them to push their agenda while those who follow the way of the prophet and his companions use authenticated hadiths. We have all the chains of narrators and their biographies and how their memory was. We know the prophet muhammad peace be upon him slept on his right side for a fact and it is more historically proven than the fact a man named George washington existed

[@farhadmiah8968]

Looks like he doesn’t know English either

[@Mr_K888]

Shamsi got patterned 😆

[@Mr_K888]

Forex Life Go back to sleep ...

[@999legend8]

Jahil.

[@999legend8]

The christion missionary got smashed.

[@IAM_THAT_IAM888]

@@999legend8 whatever you say :))

[@lollol-go3jk]

how this guy pray coz the quran never mentioned how to pray