Shane Dawson's Trashfire Makeup Documentary

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[@Johnsmith47890]

I actually can’t believe my poor ass tolerated watching a rich man crying about not being rich enough and then making an ugly ass palette and I ate that shit up. I’m so embarrassed

[@bebebebop8050]

Aryan Granite, is that you???

[@Adrian_1114]

Same but over time I came back to his videos as parodies of conspiracy theories and real ghost hunting because yeah I Don't think there is another way to watch him

[@joshcassan9036]

I remember my girlfriend watching the Star documentary and I was just really confused as to what was going on to the point where I thought there was something I wasn't picking up. Joel's video helps shift the blame off myself but since then I thought I was just ignorant of these people's culture. Easy to get sucked into.

[@schmoopydooper9174]

You’re better now

[@mayarae6272]

emperor's new clothes, 100%.

[@CJMGalaxy]

The most obnoxious thing about Shane Dawson (obnoxious, not horrifying, that list is much longer) is his habit of depicting himself as poor while sitting in his mansion or riding around in his golf cart. He wants sympathy for being poor from the people he's made millions off of. I can't deal with the self-absorption of this man.

[@stupidass69420]

Exactly! Be happy with what you have Shane, stop pretending like you have financial insecurities, because I’m sure he wouldn’t survive that

[@audiosurfarchive]

Yeah, it's fucking amazingly tone deaf. And he's a part of the elite Old Money YTers, like come the fuck on; Tammany Hall is that a way, you poor poor disenfranchised multimillionaire! Now go get em!

[@micahcook2408]

Also the irony if him making a video trying to “expose” Jake Paul but Jake def has a cleaner track record than Shane lmao (The Paul Bros have still done some questionable and sick things propagated to their younger audiences dont get me wrong tho but Shane def i feel like has done worse) however i feel like his “JP Doc” was more so to attain clout from that fanbase than anything else.

[@paperigangsta]

@@micahcook2408 just commenting if someone hasn't heard, there's a credible article from this or last week on ny times on how jake paul has s*xually assaulted someone. i agree with your comment, just noting that jake paul is worse than just questionable.

[@doggwater]

Like the fact that he used to be poor growing up justifies him pretending to still be poor 🙄 It's not a good look

[@brindleyy]

And why does not one talk about how Shane literally never wore makeup before realizing the financial gain he could make from it?

[@danicazl3098]

And he completely stopped after he made the money

[@musa2775]

Isn't it possible to say he discovered he loved it and that it was a great way to earn a ton of money? I don't think this is weird at all. It's how people start companies all the time.

[@musa2775]

@@danicazl3098 He had to. He got cancelled. If he hadn't, I bet he'd be working on his next line.

[@jesuusch]

Well he did wear blackface...

[@jesuusch]

@@danicazl3098 biggest cash grab in the history of KZbin

[@SmokeyTheShow]

Can we mention how fuckin weird and wildly professionally and morally inappropriate it was of that Katie therapist woman to just agree to literally lie about her identity, pretend to be an assistant, all in an attempt to secretly assess Jake Paul against his knowledge or consent? That was so fucking strange to see any mental health "professional" go along with just for some Shane Dawson clout

[@RenegadeContext]

Knowing the training it takes to be certain types of mental health professional this doesn't surprise me. I know in the UK that therapist is not a protected title, anyone with a days training can call themselves a therapist. I imagine it's the same in the US

[@frostywing8941]

​@@RenegadeContext no, in the US you need a license to be a therapist. To get a license, you need to have a degree and pass an exam from the state/nation, along with other requirements depending on the state.

[@ladyjellyfish4757]

@@RenegadeContextno here in the us you need at least a masters degree in counseling or psychology, be able to be able obtain and maintain a license in it, and around a year of supervised counseling sessions under a licensed professional

[@jess_lol4579]

@@RenegadeContextin the UK you need a masters degree to be a therapist. where are you getting this misinformation

[@RenegadeContext]

@@jess_lol4579 I live in the UK and am a qualified "therapist" I do not have a master's degree. Therapist is not a protected term anyone can use it. You need a master's to be a psychologist or psychiatrist but not a therapist. You can get weekend qualifications and call yourself a trauma therapist, or any other type of therapist. I think you are confusing the terms used to describe different professionals

[@atosdomani5256]

Shane, the Empath, having a mental breakdown about not having even more money is the most moving moment in the history of cinema

[@superfluousnscrupulous9458]

It brought me to tears when that happened, truly an inspiration

[@nonokes]

I felt his empathy sitting next to my 800$ monthly wage

[@matchamochi781]

I feel like an empath wouldn’t make a documentary series around the premise that someone is a sociopath.

[@elizabeth1660]

and wearing a balenciaga sweatshirt

[@user-jl5ks7yj6y]

@@nonokes same lol

[@toatrika2443]

Being an empath is standing in a room full of people working under horrible conditions and literally ignoring them

[@FathomLordKarathr]

The ghost who was haunting him was one of the sweatshop workers who fell in the makeup tank.

[@ernestoacosta7918]

Being an empath is understanding the struggle of someone making $40 profit for each palette they sell that they didn’t make for essentially being the name someone uses while buying it

[@eccentriastes6273]

The working conditions don't look that horrible from what's shown in the video. I mean maybe they are horrible in ways the documentary doesn't show, but we don't know that. Unless you're noticing something I'm not.

[@americantoastman7296]

Lmao

[@iseemtobelost8265]

!!

[@minimimi02]

i’m sorry but when jeffrey was rearranging the pallet colors and shane was looking at him like he was some kind of guinness mastermind god was the funniest thing i’ve seen 😭

[@alec_is_confused]

LITERALLY THOUGH I WAS LAUGHING SO HARD 💀

[@chocoboasylum]

Guinness mastermind. Cheers 🍻😏

[@tatemitchell1479]

As an Irishwoman, I approve 🍺

[@lizz9896]

i didn't find it funny, i just figured i didnt understand makeup and it was genuinely something great 😂

[@mishakhan1822]

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE

[@KillsAllHumanity]

Hes gonna come back with an accountability palette--all natural and earth tones with names like "transparency" and "just like you"

[@poonpunisher1]

don’t give him ideas lmaoo

[@blondie9422]

LOL

[@ariesjonna3894]

😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@MsAdlerHolmes]

Redemption Red

[@kaktusvskaffeebohne]

this comment is underappreciated

[@eddietruett]

Having a "breakdown" about money while wearing a thousand dollar Balenciaga hoodie lmao

[@NCcatlady]

And living in a Hollywood mansion...

[@elbowsbuns1896]

@@NCcatlady and driving an expensive car.

[@KO-vb4tg]

And munching on one of the strings

[@GladiusTR]

@@elbowsbuns1896 Here with my Lambourghini riding out in the hollywood streets. But you know what I love more than material possessions? KNAWLEDGE

[@lljw7151]

1k isnt that much

[@AO1hasyoutube]

It’s so wild to me that Shane Dawson literally made a movie and has published a book but can still pretend like he’s had no business deals before ✨makeup✨

[@emilydurkee8664]

Yes! When he literally said "I've never sold anything before" on his phone call with Morphe like how grossly delusional

[@kayleigh1991]

And people fell for it

[@alexkay5451]

he also used to have shirts at hot topic like,,,

[@justinwatson1510]

Shane Dawson is honestly the best case for communism that I’ve ever seen. Any system that allows a garbage person like him to achieve his level of success needs to be destroyed.

[@imzabatch]

@@alexkay5451 holy shit I remember that! and he says he's never worked with a store or "sold stuff". He had shirts in hot topic like 10 years ago 🙄

[@daronm7159]

remember when shane dawson capitalized off of bobby burns in his "meeting my hater" series and effectively turned his audience against bobby who only ever critiqued shane's content and then allowed bobby to make videos on his channel for some reason and, because his audience hated bobby for being a "shane anti", they sent bobby massive amounts of hate which caused bobby to have several mental breakdowns and shane, in response, just kicked bobby off his channel and never talked to him again. real empath vibes

[@AmazingRebel23]

I wondered why the hell he would even get wrapped up in making a whole documentary about his hater when every other youtuber would make a single video about it and move on. It's not like he had serious allegations against Shane.

[@titsoutforlusikka]

He literally ruined any chance Bobby had at being a creator tbh

[@EmmaDelamare]

"I'm not in it for the money I'm in it for the art." said Scrooge McDuck diving into the money pit.

[@blondie9422]

I wish people would just be honest and tell us that they’re drunk on power and can’t get enough of the cash. Would respect them more

[@jaojao1768]

Interestingly some Scrooge McDuck comics actually does portray it in that way, that he can remember where every coin comes from and thus sees his Money Bin more as a "bin of memories". If guess it is a way to make Scrooge as a character more likeable than just a rich guy celebrating how rich he is

[@rootfish2671]

I'm going to steal Shane's lucky dime

[@rootfish2671]

@@jaojao1768 Scrooge McDuck is more ethical than Shane

[@hambone.fakenamington]

I would like for Big Joel to film a video dressed as the painting of the Girl In Red Dress, complete with a toy cat, and just not fucking address it.

[@LuneEvenfall]

That is the coolest idea ever, I'd LOVE to see that

[@tomfish3244]

This needs to happen. Give this man all your likes!

[@scaper8]

Honestly, I would legitimately also like to hear what it is about that painting that speaks to him. Based on some of his other videos, he has, at least, three or four separate prints of it; two of which visible in this video. Something about it must hold some deeper relevance or impact for him, right?

[@nelsonth]

Why would that even be considered worth addressing in the first place? We cool here

[@justicebeske5704]

Maybe he could then put up pictures of himself without the dress where the partings were.

[@emclaire7027]

Those scenes of them walking through the factory with the workers just being like background scenery to their success is an existential capitalist horror I never thought I’d see on KZbin. Edit: I’ve seen some comments asking why it’s weird because it’s just a job or about How It’s Made shows where they show the same thing. It wasn’t about just showing the factory and the workers, that in itself would have been just cool behind the scenes footage a la How It’s Made. It was the framing that the documentary gave it of it being a moment of Shane and Jeffery looking out on their empire like “look at all this work being done for YOU, you deserve this labor for your success.” That’s why I personally found it so gross and I assume why Joel did as well.

[@caseydahl1952]

he deserves a factory filled with workers bc his parents are divorced

[@RykerJones28]

An absolute smack in the face.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

It made my eyebrows slowly raise and go: Yea I hate rich people.

[@stupidass69420]

It just makes me sick

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

That is the part of that "documentary" that REALLY sticks with me. It doesnt encapsulate every single thing I can't stand about the two of them, but my God is it a big one.

[@arifal-yousif]

The fact he's wearing a Balenciaga hoodie as he's crying about never having money is just *chef's kiss*

[@erinnadia0409]

Along with the seasonal Gucci backpack

[@beanie8]

he's very tone deaf and im embarrassed i ever enjoyed that documentary when it came out, and looking back now its was a dumpfire of dogshit

[@raine3736]

Shane, the empath, cutting off his real friends who cared about him for a toxic community and fame is so inspiring

[@madisoncardenas8910]

but even then he treated his friends horribly, i can’t think of 1 person who he was genuinely friends with who didn’t later come out saying he treated them like trash or they are equally a terrible person

[@daniboy4153]

Drew and Garrett really got the worst of it

[@_lil_lil]

@@madisoncardenas8910 Garrett and Andrew never explicitly said it (to avoid drama I assume, an infinitely more mature choice than his new friend Jeffrey Star could ever make), but people filled in the blanks based on Shane's past behavior.

[@boyishmistakes]

@@_lil_lil tbf neither has Drew afaik, he may have hinted but ppl put the pieces together from old videos and them growing distant as well

[@AmazingRebel23]

@@madisoncardenas8910 I can't remember Lisa saying anythign bad about him

[@BucketheadArchive]

Jeffree saying "I'm not in it for the money" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard

[@mojotheaverage]

Or him calling makeup 'art'. It's like calling paint art whilst it's still on the fucking palette.

[@thuhuong8838]

To be fair. He clearly has passion for make up making, but yeah he is also a greedy bastard

[@goingmonotheist783]

It shouldn't be.. because if he wanted, he can infact make much much much more..

[@PointsofData]

@@mojotheaverage I mean...there _is_ a kind of art to making good supplies tbf. Definitely not like...massively impressive but you do have to be a little creative to come up with a new product that sets itself apart in any way from the hundreds of other products.

[@NaraKwonPoD]

@@mojotheaverage Makeup is art. If a person made their own paint, they'd likely consider that a form of art, too. It's more like mass produced makeup is like a printed out painting. It's both art, but no it isn't sentimental or personal (things we typically attach to our concepts of art).

[@happyholidays9071]

He’s crying about “being poor” while literally wearing a balenciaga hoodie After he drove there in his 130000$ car from his mansion Like he didn’t have a deal to have an Amazon merchandise store A book deal Has made music And made a movie

[@vanessaanneVA]

and he had his merch in hot topic. like hes lying. hes worked with stores before

[@mayorlewispurpleshorts9693]

It literally makes me so mad. Even when I was a fan and was watching his video series for the first time, it put a bad taste in my mouth. I remember watching him have his little “breakdown” about money, and I was thinking “He lives in a mansion with an expensive car and is calling himself poor, and meanwhile my family is over here struggling to find a used car that we can afford because ours broke down.” And I’m not complaining. I’m by no means poor, we get by just fine. But to see him whining about being “poor”...it’s really disgusting.

[@happyholidays9071]

@@vanessaanneVAdidn’t even know that. Jeez, this man is a professional liar huh

[@happyholidays9071]

@@mayorlewispurpleshorts9693 it infuriates me too. I became aware that he was shit thankfully a year after he manipulated millions of new viewers including my entire grade at school into supporting his content for some reason. So glad I snapped out of his bullshit earlier than most and learned to call him out on this. My dad had to get three separate jobs to get health insurance that would pay for necessary rehab to help me function and learn how to adapt with my disability. My insurances literally were sending a clear message to a 15 year old who’s basic functionality was rapidly deteriorating and was on the rapid downwards spiral working her way to becoming bed bound by 16 (I still am at 19.) that my life was not worth it and my quality of life was worthless. It felt like I was getting the message time after time again that my functionality meant nothing all while getting abused medically in the hospital the rehab was at and their other programs. If we had had the money it wouldn’t have been so hard to get basic necessary healthcare. To get treatment to prevent ending up where I am now. To go out of state regardless being born ina city with “the best hospital in the world” and world class hospitals to only be abused by them. We could’ve gotten the genetic testing which we’ve been doing for a year and still aren’t even close to being done because of how much insurance refuses to approve anything necessary. We could’ve put me in the hospital im in now and gotten proper healthcare without the abuse and not end up with me reduced to existence. My parents could get their own individual genetic testing. They wouldn’t have to worry about their medication copays and our non existent income from both being now fully disabled. It still is insane even with a care coordinator a proper medical team who has my health and best interest in heart and a case worker all doing the most. We’re lucky to be on government insurance now but that’s still insane to work with getting basic needs fulfilled. At the time of this going down I was really starting to get turned off by Shane videos. they went from a mindless escape to something that actively angered me. He was riding in his gwagon with his 6 dollar coffee in a Gucci jumpsuit crying about being poor and I’d just get so angry. He’s obviously rich and is acting as if he’s not to appear relatable while in reality slapping all viewers in the face like it’s some joke. like he wasn’t a walking status symbol of privilege and I just wanted money to relieve my parents stress and to get my life back because losing my life at that time was starting to make others get heavily affected by it around me. Yet here’s him being beyond icky attitude wise to his friends and being rude to people around him in general and having this odd “humor” and then making the internet try and feel bad for his privileged rich white peers who fucked up and got a reasonably angry response from everyone all while demonizing already stigmatized disorders and glorifying other creators who have done beyond horrible things and some who are just straight up terrible humans (I think tana is the only series he’s done where she could be redeemable. She seems like she’s starting to grow up and actually grow and as long as she’s moving forward to get healthy mature and heal. I hope she continues to make baby steps.) . Shane just has made a career off of insulting his audience (even committing CSA to fans.) and playing the invalid sympathy card and I just don’t understand that man and hope he doesn’t have a chance at ever sliming his way back. Especially since he wants us to forget so he won’t have to apologize

[@Veste7182]

I'm not defending him nor saying he is poor, but just because you own expensive things doesn't mean you're good with money management. You can own a multi million dollar house filled with Gucci and expensive electronics and have a pretty empty bank account. That happened to glitterforever17, happens to NBA players all the time too. He's not poor, as in scraping pennies to get by. But he's also not Jeffree or Kylie level, and in the grand scheme of things, may not have *that* much money.

[@Galaxystarlight1120]

“I’ve never worked with a store, I’ve never sold stuff.” Raise your hand if you remember the Shane Dawson shirts in Hot Topic

[@mandyrain1437]

or when his books were in target and barnes and knoble....

[@shelby2697]

Or his Amazon store..?

[@fart63]

To be fair I think hot topic and other similar stores sometimes don’t get permission from people or brands to use their likeness. But it doesn’t really matter since he has worked with companies actively and openly before lmao

[@nerdythespian1212]

@@fart63 I’m pretty sure he worked with Hot Topic because I remember him advertising it and telling them how they were gonna need a lot of certain sizes because of his demographic

[@AH-ph3cb]

the first thing i said, watching this. "HE MADE SHIRTS????? HELLO????" lmao

[@BA-ji1zh]

I've seen the making of Dawson's "Not Cool." It perfectly illustrates why Dawson's storytelling and filmmaking talent is wanting - he's utterly un-coachable. He takes no advice on board, can't stand criticism, and thinks he knows better than everyone. You can't mold that kind of blind arrogance, and he will never grow as a creator.

[@coolkidsclub9943]

Thank you for mentioning that abhorrent film!! Just saw it recently and it made me viscerally angry.

[@Rynewulf]

He will never grow in skill, but his financial growth is infinite and the world cares more about rich idiots than starving geniuses

[@janelangford7977]

Jeffree is so brave “taking a hit” by only making $40 profit per palette that he sells tens of millions of.

[@lewiskazinsky7334]

He sees it as brave because he lives beyond his means. Seriously, that lifestyle is unsustainable without constantly selling at extortionate prices.

[@callumg3330]

I’m surprised that people haven’t realised that jeffree’s literally lying about his wealth, he’s literally doing a trumpian con, even has the gold cutlery and the small loan of a million dollars at the start of his cosmetics company

[@EmissaryofWind]

@@callumg3330 self centered affluent white men is the same

[@AllWIllFall2Me]

I definitely had a similar thought, since I know my industry standard MSRP is around 1.8x cost.

[@hopperthemarxist8533]

Isn’t it 60 dollars he said the cost to make was 20 and he sells 80

[@gorillatitty5537]

I forgot so much of this documentary. Shane having an actual breakdown over not being richer than he already was doesn’t feel real at all. It feels like it should be in a parody. Like they actually decided to put that in the video.

[@anvisriva1824]

His entire documentary series feels like a parody because it's so heavily edited and manipulative

[@wdviolet8434]

It’s completely nuts, this is what happens to rich people who spend too much time around richer people. Shane was already rich, but people like jeffree have much more money, so he feels entitled to live that life too. Unbearable

[@NCcatlady]

He’s a multi millionaire I don’t know how him crying for not being even richer was RELATABLE! His conspiracy videos were never on a conspiracy, just buzzfeed regurgitated “did you know” type content. He’s never made anything in depth. He did black face, a terrible movie where he was almost unbearable to work with, then feel good “documentaries” on the shittiest people of YT that would work with hin

[@Ash-bo6jf]

Right? Like, okay, you filmed that and in the moment thought it was a good idea. I guess I get having bad impulses. But then he watched it back and edited it and uploaded it to youtube and never once thought "Huh, maybe it's pretty gauche to tell all the people who I got rich off of how sad I am that I'm not even richer."

[@PanicbyExample]

@@Ash-bo6jf failing up

[@AJFilms14]

Do y’all remember that episode of Buffy the vampire slayer when Jonathan cast a spell that made everyone think he’s awesome? That’s how I feel about that weird alternate universe that we slipped into for a while where everyone was simping for Shane Dawson.

[@luiysia]

seriously for like nine years i only knew him as the most hated and most racist of the OG sketch youtubers, like absolutely the most horrendous among his peers (as compared to like raywilliamjohnson, smosh, or nigahiga). and then it was like i woke up and everyone thought he was an oscar worthy documentary filmmaker ??

[@AJFilms14]

@@luiysia and they weren’t even good docs! And they were praised! I didn’t even watch him before then so I had no idea about his racism, I can’t believe it wasn’t brought up sooner!

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

It was so amazing when Shane Dawson starred in the Matrix while also getting a doctorate and defeating a snake made of mayor, all at eighteen

[@ttthecat]

This is a conspiracy theory that resonates with me! This has to be it right?! It must be the dark arts, I mean this can't be the right timeline? Right?🥺

[@aphrinth5433]

this is the best way to describe it bc how was any of it real the views were INSANE

[@nickchambers3935]

"I can take the hit" says Jeffree, as if he's losing money. But he's not, he's just making a slightly smaller profit than he could be. That's what taking a hit means to him, knowing that there's still money in the world he hasn't acquired.

[@karak962]

God this is the best commentary I've ever seen on this. you put this so perfectly and simply

[@biggiesmartypants]

He's saying his palettes cost $20 to produce, right? I don't believe that at all.

[@ami.luvsor]

@@biggiesmartypants blood sugar, the palette in question retails for around 52 dollars. If it costs 20 to make that's around 60% profit. for a company as big as JSC.... I dunno how much I believe it. I don't doubt that the palettes have quality, but that price of manufacturing may be a bit exaggerated.

[@biggiesmartypants]

@@ami.luvsor maybe the 20 is including the pay of the workers and it's 40 clean profit. I think I meant I can't believe the materials are 20 dollar. The first and foremost motivation of these people is profit.

[@ami.luvsor]

@@biggiesmartypants yes I agree with that. JS is a business-oriented person and for such a big company, 20 for cost of materials alone seems much too high, especially considering he seems to have his own dedicated factory/production line for his products. I'm sure Jeffree and his team knew how misleading it was to say, "all of the materials are high quality" followed by saying the palette cost 20 dollars to make. One would only assume that 20 was referring to cost of materials... yet considering cogs (cost of goods) and/or any other fees, the cost of materials could easily be as low as 10 dollars or less in reality.

[@djdkch]

I will never forget when Shane did a flat earth conspiracy "documentary" with his brother who proposed the idea that the BLM protests were a plant by the government to distract us from the "bigger issue". Of the earth being flat. And Shoehorn Dickson had the most sincerely scared reaction. I remember thinking, "this is so irresponsible"

[@mossypop]

sorry he did WHAT

[@thestarsturn]

if july 2020 didn’t go the way it did.... he WOULD have made a qanon “documentary”, and i don’t want to think about that world.

[@s1arspiral]

Man, even when i watched him back in the day i thought his conspiracy theory videos were so irresponsible, when he brought out his flat earther brother i had to stop watching💀

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

This clown really had the nerve to call anyone else part of a circus

[@RubyBlueUwU]

I had no idea this happened and I’ve literally never heard anyone mention it, that’s insane

[@javv1193]

The most disgusting part of that “documentary” is when he starts screaming at the website employees on the phone. If he cared about that girl in the hospital getting the palette he should have sent her one, it’s all performance.

[@ZillyWhale]

And if someone is in the hospital I'm pretty sure a makeup palette is probably not what they needed at the moment.

[@shoobamocha]

Oh yeah and when the designers pitched ideas for the look of the packaging he had a tantrum like a child and it was so embarrassing and immature I felt bad for the employees who had to deal with an incompetent client. From my memory, he just didn't like anything so he became overdramatic and pouted when the least he could do is give feedback. He truly thinks the world revolves around him and everyone should cater to his thoughts.

[@PanicattheDiscourse]

@@shoobamocha he actually redesigned the packaging of a professional packaging designer. He's every person at work I try to avoid.

[@theTweak0284]

The second he turned on the camera to record this documentary it was for performance. If his reason for any of the business decisions was solely for profit, he would not have recorded any of it as that was an excess expense. If he was doing it "for the good" of any entity, he would have saved the money that it cost to produce the documentary and spent it to actually benefit it. I despise people like him, they are leeches on our society and are allowed to thrive from peoples' insecurities and desire to project themselves onto some kind of "success"

[@Firegirl483]

He did send her one

[@JaJaHerSelF]

he may be an awful filmmaker but boy is he a master manipulator ...the fact that he managed to present himself as the underdog for years and made people root for him to become even wealthier and more successful is kind of mind-blowing

[@Hestorzg]

He can only manipulat children.

[@fart63]

He hides his narcissism with mountains of self deprecation, and his massive amounts of wealth with greasy hair and ripped clothes.

[@LOV3CRAF7]

​@@fart63 and sweat...lots and lots of sweat.

[@rootfish2671]

@@LOV3CRAF7 why is he so greasy? Does he bathe in it?

[@kingofsting19]

Soft-spoken, photogenic white guys are catnip to straight girls and gay boys.

[@myopicmanatee6432]

Every person I have ever met who identifies as an empath has been a trash fire of a human being.

[@chase5436]

It’s an excuse not to regulate emotions. They don’t feel others emotions, they just can’t control their own.

[@curious1706]

They probably are empaths. Empaths are great manipulators. Empathy isn't sympathy.

[@_lil_lil]

@@chase5436 I can't control my emotions sometimes, so I kinda just avoid people lol It's lonely but it sure saves other people a lot of trouble.

[@_lil_lil]

@@curious1706 Watch the Psych2go video on "dark empaths"

[@raveneskridge3143]

As someone who used to identify as an empath, tru. I was an emotional mess.

[@CerdurTV]

i can't believe joel filmed this video in the Louvre

[@Grgrqr]

Joel is really just spending his money on whatever now

[@josie3221]

Imagine if we put all the art in the louvre in a one story mid century modern lmao

[@stupidass69420]

Joel invented the louvre with his anime eyes and sweater

[@seraphinaramsey7188]

if you look really close you can see lorde in the back

[@user-uy2hu1uh5d]

i’m honestly loving this aesthetic

[@leoisaway1573]

I had never seen the clips of Shane saying he’s never worked with a brand before... HE LITERALLY HAD A HOTTOPIC LINE???

[@Frosting1000]

When he was like “I never sold anything before 😭😭😭” Christ how can anyone believe that shit

[@richardsonIII]

I promise you that I am loathe to defend Shane Dawson, but on this one thing, I can imagine that he didn't make any money from Hot Topic. I know several artists who were completely ripped off by Hot Topic. They are terrible. And Shane Dawson is also terrible and still a liar.

[@ddahlia3607]

@@richardsonIII yea but shane didn't say he didnt make money, he said hes never worked with a company which is a flat out lie :/

[@richardsonIII]

@@ddahlia3607 yeah fair enough

[@smonkk8556]

i presume his logic / defence would be that he just gave them permission to use his likeness, whereas here he's directly overseeing the brand

[@HollowHouse3]

People who insist they're empaths are usually just narcissists.

[@cyan_2169]

ding ding ding ding

[@catpoke9557]

I don't think most people who are empaths even realize they're empaths. They probably just think they're 'sensitive' and feel bad about themselves because mean people shame them for crying too much. And then try not to talk about it because they feel bad. I know that's what I'd think if I were an empath. I would 100% just assume I'm overly emotional.

[@francescamendoza336]

A bit unrelated, but the best thing I've ever read from a self-proclaimed empath was their post saying "Her mom died, and as an empath, I could feel she was upset." Yeah, no shit, dude.

[@quester09]

if they say they are, they're not.

[@ebebebeb7283]

@@catpoke9557 THIS

[@arcadia4558]

"you could have bought two house by now" Imagine being able to afford ONE house

[@audri8152]

when i heard shane lie about never selling things in an actual retail store is when i stopped the series. he sold tshirts in hot topic.

[@dreamskeepmesane2729]

And books also in stores.. and he had a whole movie. The way he lied about it so casually

[@nomanejane5766]

@@rotisseriepossum he was selling his merch ( including shanaynay) tru Amazon, that was a pretty big deal

[@letsmakchaos]

He sold books at Target too!

[@BrianaLynn7]

its weird how i barely noticed like i think i watched this stuff in the background while playing candy crush

[@bananasinfrench]

I've been hearing that and I'm wondering how he honestly thought his fans would miss that?? Like surely the majority of them would have sought out his merch and known. I genuinely can't figure how he thought that was going to work out.

[@_ericc.]

You just fuckin love using that clip of Shane saying “Empath, I’ve heard that before” and it makes me want to lose it everytime I hear it LMAO

[@emilydurkee8664]

Yes seeing it now, it's so gross. He's so manipulative

[@josie3221]

Right? As though he hasn’t taken a million “Am I am empath?” quizzes online already lmao...

[@hollandscottthomas]

"Ah yes, empathy. That thing I definitely have and not just heard about from other human people. Yes."

[@k1773ns]

He is no way shape or form an empath. I mean he doesn’t even understand why C*P is wrong. 🤢🤮 he’s fucking disgusting.

[@carolyntalbot947]

@@hollandscottthomas "Soooo many people have called me an empath, I can hardly count. Did I mention how I've been _poor_ and that I come from a (gulp) b-b-broken home?"

[@SetTheEdge]

Really good stuff. I have never watched a full Shane Dawson video but I am thankful that there is someone out there willing to sift through an 8 hour nightmare and come back to break down some nauseating "highlights." Thanks gargantuan joe

[@bIoodypingu]

Set The Edge watching Big Joel is definitely not what I expected. Been watching you since around 25k subs, appreciate your content man.

[@kobayashi1194]

Nice seeing you here!

[@tracepuckett619]

hell yeah another banger of a channel in the comments!

[@madisoncannoles4907]

Exactly, I couldn't stomach it. I just can't.

[@jendoesnotcare]

Shane's been riding off of the "I used to be poor, I'm just like you!" identity for yearrrssss, even though it's clear that he is well off now and is fully capable of providing a wealthy lifestyle for himself and his previously poor family. His style choices are on purpose to continue the façade.

[@hyenachica]

"You could've already bought like, two houses." Hate is a strong word but I really, truly, hate these people. They make my skin crawl.

[@leniliddy]

especially, when by "houses" they mean mutli million dollar mansions!

[@johannageisel5390]

There are dozens of us! It also made me very angry and aggressive. I want to go and smash all their shit with a baseball bat. (Not actually going to do anything like that - it's just a fantasy. I can't afford to fly to the states.)

[@kayleenoel3587]

“You could’ve already bought like, two houses” “but... I only have o n e multi million dollar mansion T-T”

[@halo2d]

I get what you're saying but I feel like hating them gives them power too. I'd much rather just ignore all things JarJar Starfruits/minions and keep it moving.

[@Paulina-qc7ms]

Also, Shanes sad little eyes when he said that. Like we should feel so bad for him for having only one mansion lmao

[@meursault7030]

I love how transparent Shane Dawson is. Like "OTHER PEOPLE are monsters! I'M an EMPATH!" after releasing multiple films where the butts of many jokes are fat people, homeless people and mentally ill people.

[@LimeyLassen]

When someone calls themselves an "empath" I assume they're a sociopath. It feels like a safe bet.

[@meursault7030]

@@LimeyLassen Usually. At the very least, it's an admission of having a very high opinion of themselves. I, on the other hand, would never deign to do such a thing oh ho ho.

[@vivian-sasha-taylor]

And most of all, black people. Man did more blackface than makeup palettes.

[@wdviolet8434]

People who think they’re empaths are usually just insecure or unaware people who can’t separate their own emotions from others. Stay away from them

[@meursault7030]

@@vivian-sasha-taylor Oh yeah. What a prick lol.

[@loretta_3843]

"I'm willing to take the hit because this is art to me..." Oh f*ck off Jeffree. You're such a saint, sacrificing so much for us! "Documentary" my arse, it's called an advertisement 🤦

[@ellenpugh7322]

There are two scenes that stuck out to keep the most. The first is the factory scene where the people working their asses off are utilized as moving wallpaper I also think its important to notice how none of them look up. The second is when the site crashes and the "sweet uwu empath boy" is yelling for them to fix it. Reminiscent of that show where he made the film and was treating people like shit and acting like they should be lucky to even work with them.

[@d1gg1nggr4v3s]

He treats growing up poor like a whole ass personality trait. Honey, you are no longer in that situation, you're sitting in a golf cart on your multi million dollar property wearing Gucci slides. You're doing okay. You can move on and start forming your personality around another inconsequential trait that will get you sympathy.

[@coagulatedsalts4711]

it's only something worth mentioning if he actively did charity events or donated publicly to foundations for lower-income families. at least jefree gave people pandemic relief funds. I'm upper-middle class and i've seen far too many kids from lower-income families get new money and spend it all instead of saving and investing it. one girl i know was moaning about how she couldn't afford college and thought she was special "coming from a poor background" (which is so dumb because most of the kids i went to school with actually came from 3rd world countries and their parents had landed amazing jobs, myself included) and not even 10 minutes later she said that she wanted to buy a saddle for a horse at a horse-riding academy she went to. a saddle that cost 1-2 THOUSAND bucks for an animal that wasn't even hers, just some rich dude's horse who he lets ppl ride at a fancy school. i understand she wanted to be a vet but instead of spending her money and time at the stables and logging it in as work with animals, she just put in the minimum service hours required for graduation and left it at that. i don't like perpetuating a cycle that leaves families poor but she honestly deserves to be poor if it means that she learns how to properly manage her money. :((

[@rainbowroadthekilljoy8]

@@coagulatedsalts4711 no one "deserves to be poor" wtf??

[@sarahb8147]

Say what you want about Tati, she doesn’t act like she’s poor now because she grew up poor. She acknowledges she’s loaded

[@slug-rt3302]

OMG I THOUGHT THAT TOO!! and also when he would continuously say things like "im fat" "im poor" and all the "relatable" self depreciation stuff that just didn't slide with me around that time when he started being around Jeffrey.

[@britneyf6596]

@@coagulatedsalts4711 This is such a myopic take and it reeks of entitlement

[@ckind2098]

When Shane and Jeffree are in a vid together, I feel like I'm watching Voldemort and Pettigrew lmao. One legitimately terrifying overlord plus the whiny and kind of incompetent understudy

[@Skywreckdemon]

Lmao

[@avish878]

Lol

[@milacruz3970]

Omg, this is exaclty iy

[@coffeeaddictkittyy.b4158]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Gcatsz]

Is that a cyr wheel in your pfp

[@angelicsynss]

i used to love shane dawson and i when the topic of 9/11 came up, i always thought that it was true about them being bombs and not planes. i genuinely believed that. last year on 9/11, people were obviously talking about it and i mentioned how it was caused by bombs. after i said that, someone asked me where i got my source from. i thought for so long bc i genuinely did not know. i just now realized that for a big portion of my life i was thinking that 9/11 was caused by bombs and the planes were cgi. shane dawson has a terrible impact on people.

[@Koi-dusa]

Same. When I was young I ate that shit up

[@zawrator4457]

Especially as his audience is largely children. Ridiculously irresponsible behavior.

[@sofiapicasso1915]

The best things to come out from this "documentary" were Shane's ugly ass make-up looks that he was forced to do because he needed to pretend he actually gave a shit about make-up. The fact that he made a whole MUA channel too and only uploaded one (1) video lmao

[@VonVikoGoat]

and after Shane's comeback it got turned into a podcast channel

[@PocketPal95]

Lmfao he really was Shane Glossin over the makeup era of that channel

[@claborn79]

Anyone else have a visceral, angry reaction to how they just blatantly dehumanize and erase the workers?

[@facelessdrone]

Yeah, seeing that just reminds me how delusional the rich truly are, how egotistical and unaware and out of tough they all are even the ""good"" ones

[@private2809]

@@facelessdrone *especially* the self proclaimed "good ones"

[@anonanon5046]

Them standing there in their stupid expensive track suits and makeup watching other people make the pallets and then acting like it’s something they did feels so surreally wrong.

[@mako6403]

right, it especially hit me hard because i used to work in a factory for a long time when i was 15 because i didnt have a choice. i understand that there may be companies that treat their workers well but many of us werent and i hurt for them

[@claborn79]

@@mako6403 I'm so sorry. 15-year-olds should be focusing on school & exploring their talents & interests, not working in factories.

[@redmiqo]

Not to mention after being canceled by all the shit hes done in the past and being off the internet for MONTHS, he comes back to sell "mystery boxes" full of the makeup theyre struggling to sell im sure. No shame haha

[@blarg2429]

Shame Dawson.

[@takethewordss]

and SLIME. he's selling slime. which is primarily a thing marketed to kids.... the tone deafness omg

[@Fredric_Cedrich]

Struggling to sell? Hmmm. Hopefully the workers in the factory are earning more per week/month than he is on sales.

[@annabelcrescibene4257]

I mean just to give them the benefit of the doubt, Jeffrey sells the mystery boxes of stuff he doesn’t sell like four times a year.

[@annabelcrescibene4257]

@@takethewordss again, just to be fair not defending him as a person. He’s talked about how he likes slime videos and slime for years now. It’s not because it’s marketed to kids it’s because he likes it.

[@nafcatt8863]

Jeffree acting like his cost of making is soooo expensive and he doesn’t charge too much is so dumb. Like he needs $20 to make palettes but he sells his shit for like $50-60 :) That’s millions and millions in profit lmao and I get that’s how business works but him acting like such a Saint is not it

[@ghodt2875]

I’ve been watching a lot of videos like this talking about Shane Dawson and his documentaries and it’s so weird to look back on how I saw the documentary when I first watched it and realize how brainwashed I was into thinking that it was so good and genuine. I begged my mom to get me the pallet and even though it sold out she was able to get the mini pallet. I don’t want to throw it out since I know how hard my mom worked to be able to get it but I feel bad for having it and not realizing sooner that I was being manipulated.

[@myspareaccount8113]

Hey, it’s definitely okay to keep your pallet. If you like the make up, use it :)) it’s already bought and if it has sentimental value from your mom then that makes it even better. You might as well use it if you have it. Don’t guilt trip yourself, you are okay

[@LindseyBean]

I love how he said it would be 8 parts and then he stopped after they sold the palette and people got mad so he said fiiiine I’ll finish it god

[@jesuusch]

Well technically he said it would be 9 parts and that he would include Dramaggeadon 2, but really he only showed his reaction and didn’t show Jeffree’s, Tati’s or James’ side

[@leijten]

hey, it's that big guy again, with his big words and big ideas

[@emilydurkee8664]

*JOEL*

[@kaylaisnothere4397]

Hey it's that Joel guy again, with his Joel words and his Joel ideas

[@gull1265]

i, too, love the uploads of this objectively hot troubadour

[@brandon9172]

BIG LEVEL IDEAS

[@UnseamedComet]

AND bigbeard

[@ethanisfancy]

The scene of Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star in their hideous track suits overseeing the makeup production where you know the workers are making nothing is the most unintentionally artistic thing Shane Dawson has ever made

[@kafka9627]

I love your videos so so so much. As an autistic person, these analyses always teach me and help me to see between the lines in a way Im not capable of normally. And i cant express how much i appreciate that. It helps me become socially independent, and ultimately safer as a person Thank you

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

Just don’t try to pick up any tips from how people behave in comments sections.

[@nelsonth]

Ooh, when I remember the number of people who hailed Dawson as some kind of genius auteur of documentary filmmaking just because he made super long videos...

[@k1773ns]

Yea and the way they claimed he was changing KZbin and deserved a Netflix show. Lmaooo

[@JessPen00]

That was always my biggest gripe with these videos. I’d always skip through all the fluff and unnecessary stuff he added in. Seemed like he added a bunch of nonsense just for a longer video.

[@bananasinfrench]

Oh man, the amount of people who defended him because they thought his documentaries were good and fell for his 'empath' bit, whew

[@selecta3818]

I’m guilty of this. The way he hyped up that they were going to expose shit like top secrets of the beauty business... I

[@klaudiaklaudia7155]

That was me I'm sorry lol he's really good at manipulating

[@LindseyBean]

My husband was in nyc and literally looked up as the plane hit but oh no shane says it’s cgi that must be what happened

[@mandyrain1437]

fr. ive heard some ridiculous conspiracys about that day but to say it just NEVER happened is insaneeee

[@SoftxBunny]

Exactly, he's so arrogant, and his ideas are so farfetched. The reason all the cameras were jilted at that exact moment, is because when two huge steel tubular buildings get struck, more than just the building moves at that exact moment. Especially during the times of the towers collapsing. It must have been fucking hope ruining, and existence altering, for everyone who witnessed it; and for those who lost loved ones, or had to grieve someone whos body was never recovered. And there's Shane, doing what he does, disrespecting a national tragedy, bring up holograms, and hoaxes. Not only that, but the 9/11 conspiracy is notorious for causing certain people to spiral. It's like the gateway to "the government is out to get you" conspiracies. Some adults can't handle it, take them seriously and become more paranoid or anxious than they might have been otherwise; and his videos were edited to insight fear, and distrust of our perceived reality. It's the exact kind of thing cults do after they've primed their newest member with love bombing; and his audience has always been primarily teenagers and children. He's truly the antithesis of Mr Rogers.

[@shoprocksfilms]

Your husband must be CGI too, I'm so sorry you had to find out this way 😂

[@orion_the_constellation3705]

my mom was in boot camp when 9/11 happened, and someone's mom worked in one of the towers, and she started bawling and called her mom, apparently she was either at a doctor's appointment, or dentist appointment when the plane hit the tower she worked at. yeah... sooo fake...

[@catpoke9557]

@@orion_the_constellation3705 Oh my goodness I was SO concerned reading this post until you mentioned being at an appointment. The actual luck she had to be on an appointment that day... Thank goodness

[@Yahoodoraze]

Remember when he spliced a conspiracy about Chuck E. Cheese pizza with his old friends traumatic experiences with her ex

[@katiemorgan543]

idk why this made me bust out laughing but it did, shit i totally forgot he did that. i'd be so pissed if i shared my experiences only to find my story was put on the back burner for Chuck E. Cheese pizza

[@Yahoodoraze]

@@katiemorgan543 right 😂 the disrespect

[@minionenthusiast89]

LMAAOAOAOOOA I RMB THAT

[@lillyrose3545]

Shane acts like he has never been rich in his Balenciaga hoodie, while he sits next to his Gucci mini backpack. I hate Shane Dawson

[@raveneskridge3143]

That bag was the season bag, too

[@CaitieLou]

To me the most frustrating thing about Shane Dawson is how he's had a career on the internet for years, and in all that time hasn't really produced anything of value. The man is 32 years old and somehow manages to make millions producing content that has always been insultingly bad. And now he's gotten into all these 9/11 truther and flat earth conspiracies. It's like he failed upward into his current status, and now can't seem to fail downward no matter how much he tries.

[@notfunny1410]

What? He had the best content back in the day thats how he got his subscribers

[@Xxsorafan]

Well he sucks as both a actor and director which is his true passion so what else is there to do for him

[@PRM77]

@@notfunny1410 you mean the years of the blackface, the racist jokes, the sexual jokes with minors and the omegle calls with minors asking them to do inappropriate things???

[@notfunny1410]

@@PRM77 His old funny videos

[@queereden]

hey idk of you've heard of this but people have different tastes. I liked his content like 3 years ago before I realized he never really changed. bad people can make things people like and that's okay?

[@Beboroni]

Joel’s got some real “AP Lit Teacher” vibes

[@stupidass69420]

He looks like the fun elementary school teacher or substitute that makes learning fun and lets you watch movies

[@bogmanhimself4656]

he looks exactly like the humanities teacher i had that flat told us the american dream was dead and then educated us about the 1917 bath riots + japanese internment against school rules lmao. shout out to edgy stealth leftist high school teachers

[@stoleneyez]

He reminds me of my IB HL Art teacher but a dude haha

[@stupidass69420]

@@bogmanhimself4656 I wish I had one of those teachers :(

[@rickc2102]

How would he fit in a human-sized classroom? I mean, he's BIG.

[@skaarphy5797]

I'm 49 years old and just recently found out about Shane Dawson, Logan Paul, and the likes, and how huge this whole influencer scene actually is. I might have heard some names in passing and about some of their 'scandals' but I never really knew anything about them. Maybe I'm just too old for this but I find them terrifying. Their vapidness, their ultra-materialism, their complete lack of shame or humbleness, too see that their whole point of existence is to make money off of kids, this whole feeling that they not only don't see that there might be something wrong with that but that they don't even seem to have a concept of right and wrong. Whatever it is, the fact that people like that have a say in how our children see the world, it's just terrifying.

[@MashaRistova]

I’m 33 and you sum up perfectly exactly how I feel. TikTok, “influencers,” everyone’s quest for fame and virality… It is so depressing to me. Social media/influencer culture is absolute brain rot for young, impressionable people

[@meganvincent5381]

Shane Dawson: I'm an empath Also Shane Dawson: Did henously racist shit in his career Aight dude

[@callumg3330]

This makeup series genuinely moved me further left and made me realise everything wrong with KZbin as a platform

[@iamjustkiwi]

For real. This documentary, which shouldn't exist, about people so wealthy they shouldn't exist, making a product that has no inherent value and doesn't need to exist, is sickening on an existential level. Some of us can barely pay rent and then get things like this shoved in our faces, and people wonder why the younger generation is so goddamn cynical 🙄

[@tape-6]

oh hey gerard way!

[@harrisonfackrell]

I'm putting like 20% odds on Dawson secretly being an avant-garde, leftist artist

[@cooraa]

@@iamjustkiwi so wealthy they shouldn't exist, yet Dawson pretended the entire documentary to be some poor, unknown person that "only" has one house, "only" has a car, "only" has plenty of electronic devices we see throughout the videos and even the documentary itself... like.. fuck off man, some of us can't even afford a fucking apartment to live in.

[@joshuacole6543]

@@cooraa iirc earlier videos he did around that time showed a second place they had that was basically a really nice townhome that they used as an office they let ryland's sister live in when she moved to LA. so the "one house" thing is bullshit too

[@piercetheskies]

i love wearing a $1000 hoodie when i'm crying to my fans about how poor i am

[@beestarjay]

This "documentary" could have been good too, which is disappointing. He could have followed the product down the supply line and ACTUALLY show how big of a process it is. Film the original pitch, the finances, the design, the marketing plan, the photoshoots, the manufacturing, interview those women on the line that are pushed into the background behind them, discuss how much everyone on each of those levels is getting paid. That would be interesting!

[@Dermetsu]

The rich predator crying about not making enough money was hilarious.

[@randomchick901]

It genuinely blew my mind when the went to the factory and didn’t even talk to ONE of the employees when the whole “documentary@ was framed around actually showing what goes on the behind the scenes in the makeup industry

[@fart63]

They don’t care what actual working people have to say about anything. They are basically two walking pieces of plastic (Jeffrey literally is). They want to seem like the people doing all the work

[@rootfish2671]

He doesn't want to soil himself by mingling with lowly peasants

[@EmissaryofWind]

Was anyone going to tell me Shane Dawson is a 9/11 truther or did I have to find out myself in this Large Joseph video

[@floralthief8136]

wait until you hear about his flat-earther brother he dedicated one of his shitty conspiracy theory videos to platforming

[@likasteur4565]

@@floralthief8136 oh lord, i forgot about that one

[@dudeseriously591]

😂same

[@andrewerickson2922]

The restraint you exercised in not once using the word "narcissistic" throughout this entire video is remarkable. Bravo, king.

[@aloe8078]

It always really bothered me that Shane kept saying he never worked with a store or sold merch before because his merch was literally in hot topic back in the early 2010s

[@bunjistee]

And he's saying it to he's audience on his channel like those aren't the exact people who used to buy his merch. And people still eat it up

[@CanIswearinmyhandle]

Remember when That kid Bobby Burns made a video debunking a few of Shane's conspiracy thoeries and that famous poor man who definitely never sold anything in a store before and is barely scraping by Shane Dawson bought him a car?

[@Matter-Dark]

And Bobby had a weird breakdown and is now a rapper?

[@menjivarTv]

I liked Bobby’s channel when it was about movies :(

[@gm6393]

Bobby had some really good criticisms, which is why shane had to immediately get Bobby on his side, and then paint him as the villain.

[@jesuusch]

@@Matter-Dark and OnlyFans now right?

[@Matter-Dark]

@@jesuusch He has an only fans?

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

I remember seeing Patrick Bateman's actor talk about his inspiration for the role. It was Tom Cruise's "friendly smile with nothing behind the eyes." That's how l feel whenever l look at Shane Dawson or Onision.

[@ladamaperfecta7]

Christian Bale! Only one of the greatest actors of all time

[@blondie9422]

Wow, chilling.

[@bananahat3350]

Same with David Dobrick.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

@Babba Yaaga I'll take your word for it. If l google it, my ads will know. I googled where Ukraine was last month, and the ads for "Ukrainian Hot Mommas" haven't stopped yet.

[@milan4989]

@@TheDanishGuyReviews i don't know the comment you're replying to since i cant see it, but i just wanted to let you know "ukranian hot mommas" made me laugh in a very undignified way. thanks for that. hope they aren't bothering you anymore lol

[@melfree2545]

Seeing Shane cry about money will probably never stop making me simultaneously uncomfortable, amused, and angry.

[@squiishiie]

I read amused as aroused and was horrified 😭😭

[@TSFboi]

i was actively a shane fan at the time this series came out and EVEN THEN i recognised it for the cash-grab it was. he never had any business in beauty, but he did a previous series with Jeffree Star and saw how much money he was making. i just stuck to the garrett & drew vids.

[@ehsteve231]

"8-hour documentary" "Among the worst pieces of art I've ever experienced" then... "...after my SECOND time through" Should we send help? I think we should send help. I'll call the fire department.

[@luiysia]

for being so awful it's very very easy to watch. it has absolutely no substance

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

When you mentioned the part about Shane Dawson empathizing with Logan Paul because they both have dogs, I felt a momentary sting of fear.

[@stupidass69420]

That’s like sympathizing with Hitler because someone and him both painted something

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@stupidass69420 No, I’m mostly scared for the dogs, because I know how Dawson treats his cat.

[@stupidass69420]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick ohhHh I see what you mean! Absolutely, Shane should never own pets and he’s disgusting. Sorry for misunderstanding xd

[@HarryS77]

Their dogs're named Martha.

[@janedoe1570]

@@stupidass69420 Hitler had a dog too, but I guess he shot it so he's not nearly as relatable.

[@gardeniablossom4077]

I used to be excited for Shane’s success bc I felt connected to him in that we were both social outcasts who have a hard time making friends. He made me feel like there was hope for me too and I think that’s exactly how he gained popularity.

[@daphne5693]

i think you really encapsulated youtube perfectly in: “he decided to be more authentic and immediately started making 9/11 truther conspiracy theories for his largely child audience”

[@evin2840]

Big Joel and his big sweater. We’re slowly entering poncho territory boys

[@carolyntalbot947]

Ooh, a poncho! Make it happen!

[@doctorwholover1012]

It starts with a cardigan, then you try out a sweater vest, before you know it you're wearing a crew neck knit, and after that it's only a matter of time until you hit turtle neck territory, and once you go there, it's poncho or punch out 😂

[@Musicanimedork01]

Fuck yes. Give us that Luke Skywalker on Tatooine LOOk

[@Blue_Azure101]

He’s cloning himself

[@Matter-Dark]

@@Musicanimedork01 Or Cal Kestis.

[@jakecrev5729]

holy shit i did NOT expect the shane dawson 9/11 trutherism clip. it was so surreal hearing that in his voice

[@rustypatriot4335]

Shane Dawson unintentionally feels like some post-modern shit, something about his content just feels abstractly evil and its fascinating

[@IceDragon289]

I really miss the days when I didn't know who Shane Dawson was and just assumed he reviewed episodes of Dawson's Creek on KZbin.

[@natalie1816]

8:54 is also just... not true? as a former fan of shane dawson who watched him for YEARS, he's sold tshirts and popsockets and all the other youtuber merch things. his two books were sold at barnes and noble and target. he had LARGE meet and greets, the one he fantasizes about having for the makeup line, for a book tour. the makeup doc was the first shane dawson video i didn't watch because him making a makeup palette already was so inauthentic to his brand in my eyes.

[@jeremylin4087]

yeah I was gonna say. Didn't he even used to sell shirts at hot topic back in the day? I distinctly remember him doing a vlog where he goes to the store and sees his own t-shirts there. Maybe I'm just imagining that.

[@vanessarose2796]

I’m so glad someone is finally addressing his tendency to glorify dangerous conspiracy theories (he also did one on crisis actors and how sandy hooked was faked) and I couldn’t believe he would say things like that

[@vanessarose2796]

Anyway off to curiosity stream....

[@musikluv6]

in what video did he say sandy hook was fake? also btw, i remember him saying the fires in cali were also faked...

[@thatlemonadeguy6742]

@@musikluv6 i don’t remember the video but I can remember he presented as “evidence” the fact that the school opened again shortly after because “how was it possible to clean all the blood that was there?” like excuse me wtf

[@oppakunn328]

Glad we cancelled him at the right time cause he would made quanon anti-covid conspiracies if we didn't

[@PureMagic101]

@@oppakunn328 I don’t know if I would call it “cancelled” so much as “consequences of actions” I am shivering at the thought of a multiparty covid conspiracy theory vid from him now thank you sjsjdjsjaj

[@cyradical]

"ive never sold anything before" sir my early 2010 shane dawson tv hot topic shirt hidden away at my moms house begs to differ- anyway great vid i love watching ppl call out shitty ppl

[@belalugosi_isdead]

YES I JUST COMMENTED THAT TOO i was waiting for him to say something and he didn’t and i was PERPLEXED

[@shayokami7410]

Shane acting all broken up about "finally making his big break" is so infuriating when you've been a low to no income content creator on a shoestring budget for seven years.

[@WhaleManMan]

In the 10th level of Hell,influencers are punished by having Shane Dawson intrude on their lives and desperately explain pseudo-psychology to them.

[@elbowsbuns1896]

*shudders*

[@lilyjackson6460]

shane dawson is also punished in this manner, just for reference. nothing worse than encountering someone who's like you, especially if you're a piece of shit

[@SJKlapecki]

Oh I absolutely cannot WAIT to see Large Joel talk about this weird man again Edit: oh hell yeah meta-analysis of Large Joseph

[@thevioletbee5879]

Titanic Joseph.

[@Grgrqr]

Ginormous jole

[@miqwerty]

Humongous Giuseppe

[@craigstephenson7676]

@I’m Too Kind for This Nonsense Gargantuan Joao

[@MadeleineSwannSurreal]

Kaiju Jonathan

[@Strawberry_Cubes]

Hey heads up, as someone who owned the palette it is genuinely the worst makeup I have ever worn, I think Shane was trying to make it as cheap as possible as I use to own a TON of jeffree palettes and they where really good quality This one SUCKS it stains it doesn’t apply well and the shimmers can really irritate your akin

[@Uhohlisa]

The most frustrating part of all of this is that at the height of his popularity, the sane among us who stated any of this were harassed and abused by his fans. It just became okay to call out Shane. It has nothing to do with how bad he is. Like his badness is used as a weapon to hate on him, not the reason why people despise him. It’s just a bandwagon thing.

[@FortuitousOwl]

What was the name of that creator that made a similar vid about him like years ago and Shane framed him as a hater and then like ruined his whole career? Poor guy

[@GG-te2fb]

@@FortuitousOwl Bobby Burns? Omg you unlocked a memory lmao poor kid

[@swansonjoe7121]

He could have even donated the makeup money to charity and seemed like less of a bastard

[@jendowns6175]

But he did! The charity was the "make Shane Dawson richer because he's just a poor wittle EmPaTh" charity. Haven't heard of it?

[@hyacinth1320]

fuck charity pay your workers!

[@joelle4226]

@@hyacinth1320 you can’t become big multi millionaire by paying your workers

[@valx7586]

Shane is the human embodiment on the literary "then this happened, then this happened, then this, then this"

[@bobsburgers8497]

He’s the epitome of pretending to be nice to your face and then when you turn your back he’s like “omg ew no lmao no”. He’s a real mean girl

[@nonokes]

I think my favorite part of the documentary is the scene where Shane and Jeffree are having an emotional moment and behind them you see the factory workers. Edit: I need to add I find it insane this documentary was just a long ad for possibly the worst curated makeup palette I've ever seen.

[@jokelly8406]

“Jefferee’s an artist. Jefferee died for our sins” soooo accurately summed up how he was presented in this series

[@CanIswearinmyhandle]

The only thing I remember from a Jeffree Star video is when he made a video about his dog that died, and that's obviously very sad, but he said "We rescued her from a breeder" and that's literally, word for word an exchange from Chris Flemings comedy masterpiece Gayle, minus the part where Gayle yells at her husband to shut up when he chimes in with the fact the dog's from a breeder.

[@kon2175]

_Wild Chris Fleming fan sighting_ But true, both Shane and Jeffree are terrible people and try to manipulate people with specific phrasing among other tactics.

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

Maybe he got her from an abusive straight person 😅

[@alexanderking5676]

This, coupled with Dan Olson's Doug Walker piece have to be the most cutting critiques of a single person on this platform. It's marvelous really

[@emilydurkee8664]

Dan Olson's video about Doug was a master piece *chief's kiss

[@callumg3330]

I see a lot of similarities between Shane and Doug, they’re both incapable of doing the thing they’re most passionate about (filmmaking) because they’re so narcissistic that they’re incapable of learning how

[@iamabee4452]

Hmm I'd like to add anything the jaubrey does to this list

[@sonicthehedgegod]

only because d’angelo wallace’s videos on shane are going down. his video was WAY more cutting imo, i’m still sad to see it’s gone (or going away, i haven’t checked if d’angelo has actually taken that one down specifically yet)

[@callumg3330]

@@sonicthehedgegod someone’s already reuploaded d’angelo’s Shane Dawson video

[@ericfelds6291]

The fact that Jeffree whatever and Shane Dawson are wildly beloved by millions legitimately makes me feel alienated from the rest of our species. I’m mystified, horrified, and viscerally sickened.

[@MashaRistova]

Same. Seeing comments like yours makes me feel slightly less alone. Gives me some faith in humanity. We can’t be the only sane ones on this planet lol

[@This-Was-Sparta]

Couldn't have said it better. Him genuinely almost crying at the idea he "could've bought two houses" with the money he supposedly lost out on, like wow. Expressing the thoughts I had upon hearing that would probably get my comment shadow banned...

[@zoekm]

There seems to be a superdense kernel of utter self-hatred at the very centre of Shane Dawson, and you can see it in everything he produces. He has nothing to say, just this black hole that needs to be fed, and it'll never be enough.

[@goodstorydan]

Shane Dawson is the kind of youtuber who just tries whatever, sees what works to get him views, keeps doing that until it doesn’t work anymore, and then moves on to the next thing. He’s all about the views and the $$$

[@princessbabe1313]

The only time he was ever truly passionate about his work and even did it FOR FREE FOR YEARS...was when he was creating cruel racist black face content 😀

[@h3nder]

And creeps on kids.

[@zaccds]

Funny cause that's what helped lead to his downfall. New people who liked his "conspiracy" and "documentaries" discovered his old content and called him out on it.

[@anvisriva1824]

Even though I never watched Shane Dawson or his series, I watched a video called "Jeffere Star making Shane feel poor for five min straight" or something and was also reeled into the idea that Shane is just some average joe(l). But then in the comments someone said how Shane is rich as well and is a long time youtuber and how he pretends to be "just like us" and that sort of snapped me out of ever thinking of him in a relatable/good light

[@FathomLordKarathr]

Shane Dawson had a networth of $12 million back in 2018 and that was before his makeup line. To put his earnings into perspective. Shane Dawson makes $1,300 an hour. Every single hour of the day regardless of if he is working or not.

[@mallowmallow2070]

He's "just like us" but creepy, abusive and a multi-millionaire smh

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

5:20 “I don’t have real money” says the guy who’s been a big youtuber since before monetization and is one of the people who’s been on this platform the longest and has an extremely large fan base

[@justjuliet6030]

Dude proceeded to make a whole ass documentary on how Jake Paul was a psychopath, then once he realised how similar they were he back tracked so hard back into "Yeah nvm, he's great!" 💀

[@_lil_lil]

Pewdiepie released a video called "the dark side of Shane Dawson" at the same time, criticizing the documentary for being morally questionable and also criticizing Kati Morton (who is actually a very flawed therapist who seems to be better at explaining mental health conditions than diagnosing them). At the time he got some flack for it, but it aged so well.