First MATTER Smart Shades!! Smart Wings Full Review

[@ShaneCreates]

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[@natelasley18]

I like the new background

[@ShaneCreates]

@@natelasley18 Thanks! 😀

[@nics8040]

Did you figure out your thread issue?

[@amanat9]

❤0llll

[@Uthesh28]

I hope that matter products eventually become cheaper

[@RogerWilsonTodd]

Please post an exterior pic of the window so we may see impact of the solar panel. Thanks.

[@carlsarazin]

I wish they would offer the motors with the accessoires sepratly... for those who already have the blinds ! Thanks for the video !

[@russellwelch4193]

Eve Motion

[@nervigAT]

I have the thread smart wings shades through my house. absolute happy with them, work solid! own app to adjust some settings would be nice but once you get the hang out of it with the remote its super easy to just adjust whatever you wanna do. absolute recommendation!

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Polkster13]

Love the video. It will really help me make my final decision on which smart blinds to get.

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful.

[@TSAmick]

Great review! Thanks

[@pamcadd8658]

Thanks, Shane! We need shades for our new screened porch, but the options we've seen so far cost several thousand $$. SmartWings prices are a few hundred for each one - significantly less, plus the advantage of being smart. So glad to know about them!

[@tharais]

Shane: Just a couple of notes about solar panel placements: I found out the hard way that putting them up as far as possible to hide them better may cost you in function. Roof overhang (eves) and even window trim, can cast a shadow in summer, when the sun is at its highest arc that keeps them shaded. Even when the windows are south facing. Bottom line, consider sun exposure along with the esthetics when placing them. And, on sliding or double hung windows. the thickness of the solar panel mounted on the inside of the fixed half of the window glass will interfere with the full opening of the moving panel and restrict how far it can open. Bottom line, mount the solar panel on the moving glass half of the window when possible and get the cord to drape alongside the inner frame of the window when it is fully closed.

[@ShaneCreates]

All good point. Thank you for sharing!

[@gbforfunbruh7090]

This is my next smart home purchase once the house is done. Just got all 100 Philips hue lights setup on 2 separated bridges I’m not looking forward to setting up home kit and integrating them lol

[@gregghayes6710]

Thank you Shane. It’s good to see that they were able to beat your expectations. Since they are thread, I’m glad you did this in a friends house with the thread problems that are cropping up at your house. 😊

[@kennethcox9883]

I need that tower shelf behind you!

[@frostysnowman5033]

Awesome Review dude, very helpful! Thanks very much, earned the "like"!

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching!

[@ReviewCantina]

Just purchased them and they are awesome.

[@technithusiast]

14:56 I’m really glad you added a sound test! Something that would have helped with the sound test would have been to get a baseline sound test of the room to get a better comparison

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@natelasley18]

I like the new background

[@randybisig6685]

Thank you so much for this video. I am moving into a new home next month and was looking to install smart shades.

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching! Hope it helped.

[@mmosbauer]

Another great review Shane. I have really been wanting to replace my blinds in the house and I think this might be a great choice.

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching!

[@d.j.vandermeer3832]

For people on a budget you can make these yourself. Zemismart has already a rollershades Thread (and Matter) motor. Just order that one and buy locally a tube and fabric.

[@michaelwhitney680]

I'd like to see what they look like from the outside, specifically with the solar panels. Great vid!

[@russellwelch4193]

Eve Motion also has Matter enabled blinds.

[@EdgarsHomeTech]

Awesome video Shane!

[@thenilanjanmitra]

Loved the pun on Matter at end of the video, very funny Shane 😂. How do these compare to IKEA blinds though I wonder?

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching! I can’t really compare because I haven’t used the IKEA shades much. I tried them a few years ago and had a bad experience. Returned them and haven’t given them another try since. I know some people like them, they just weren’t for me. IKEA certainly won’t have the customization options that you have here.

[@hardwarecompugeek]

Question for you Shane… In my previous house I had a couple Lutron Serena shades, and as much as I would love to put them in my new house, I sadly can’t afford that many (looking at ordering 20). How would you say they compare to the Serena shades? (Noise level, speed, how well they stay in sync with other shades) Great video, btw!

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching. I always say that Lutron Serena is the best. They are amazing. If budget allows for it, I don't think you'll ever be disappointed with them. That said, they are EXTREMELY expensive, so shades like these from Smart Wings is a great mid-tier. Still very good quality and fully customizable. Lutron roller shades are probably a little quieter, but not enough to justify the huge price difference (in my opinion). To me, the most noticeable difference is how well they stay in sync. Smart Wings, and all others that I've tested, cannot compare to Lutron in that area. I think that is what you are paying for if you decide to go with Lutron over something like Smart Wings.

[@hardwarecompugeek]

@@ShaneCreates thanks for the reply! Just an FYI, SmartWings will give you a discount for big orders. They’re giving me 20% off just for ordering 20, so they come out even cheaper when you’re doing a big order. I really wish I could install Serena, but when I quoted it out, it was going to be around $16k. The SmartWings equivalent is only $6k.

[@ShaneCreates]

@@hardwarecompugeek That's great to hear! Can't beat that price, with the discount especially. Thanks for sharing. I installed a bunch of their outdoor shades on my back porch also, and really been enjoying them. Video on that here, if interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZqvdoKbfLSGgac

[@SynisterBlak]

My matter shades decided to go unresponsive and so I deleted the from home kit and reset them and now it sees them but says can’t connect when trying to add them back in

[@jimmcarlson]

Hey Shane, mine had an additional QR code on the back/bottom of the fabric. It’s slightly hidden and easy to miss. However, I ordered mine recently and this might be a new thing they are doing based on feedback from people like you.

[@ShaneCreates]

Glad to hear. Thanks for sharing!

[@watch_your_six]

How do you like the shades @jimmcarlson?

[@tharais]

Did anyone check the manual for a QR code? SwitchBot Blind Tilts have a copy of the QR code there. Which is great.......as long as you remember to label the front of each manual as to which one corresponds to which blind. Something I failed to do in my haste to get those puppies up and running.

[@jayjake]

I love how the company is named the same as one of the European airlines company

[@bgoncal]

Hey man random question, could you share which paint have you used on your walls?

[@Nick19837]

So no hub required for the thread option?

[@kennethcox9883]

What color is your accent wall?

[@technithusiast]

I didn’t know you you could use the regular camera app to scan the HomeKit QR 😮

[@BigDAKK-fs3cr]

Did you have an over or back shade?

[@RDlinkenhoker]

Nice video. Thanks. I have a ton of experience using Hunter Douglas Powerview via HomeKit, so smart home is pretty much all I want (Regarding Hunter Douglas: Just say no). Question though. Smartwings says you need at least one remote to set up the shades. I don't want a remote if I don't need it for smart home stuff. You mention it being optional. Did you find you needed the remote to set the blinds up?

[@ShaneCreates]

I believe you can set up the blinds now without the remote... essentially you put the blinds into pairing mode and add them to your smart home. I'm not sure about setting/changing the open and closed positions though. Might be possible without a remote. Either way, I will say having the remote makes all of that a lot easier. I'd recommend getting a remote, even if it's just for setup, troubleshooting, and/or occasional use.

[@chaskinsnc]

ANy suggestions for a smart shade or blind that works on a door with a full length window? (Exterior Door)

[@DennisSchmitz]

I wonder if the matter support also applies to Google Home. I already use lots of Matter/Thread enabled devices here, which work just fine now.

[@jliang42]

Matter version is 60 bucks more?

[@TerraMagnus]

I want these but daaaaamn they are expensive.

[@JR74177]

what's the db of the Lutron Serena shades, for comparison.

[@obinna12]

38

[@silvahawk]

should i have to add an extra inch in height to the measurement to account for the shade not fully touching the bottom of the windows frame (and can calibrate it later) or I should not worry about that?

[@ShaneCreates]

I would not worry about it. I would measure exactly how they recommend on the website and input those measurements when customizing your order.

[@jamesmaine8438]

Something I do because the QR code can be annoying when you need to repair a device. Take a picture of the QR codes and save it to a notes app with all you other codes...then you just open note app...click and hold the picture and you will have option to add to home kit from there.

[@emanuelesteves2818]

What could be a nice feature is being able to change speeds depending on time of day so in the morning u want it to be slow to be as quiet as possible

[@oteswang]

16:57

[@chillinquillen]

I received an order the other day. It had another small QR code on the bottom rail end piece. I was thinking same thing and didn't notice until I finished installing.

[@jasonbhargava]

Did that one have a numerical code?

[@chillinquillen]

@@jasonbhargava yes

[@jasonbhargava]

Thank you! Is the motor/battery visible? I haven’t been able to tell in these videos or on their website where the battery is… assuming I don’t use solar… it looks well hidden here but couldn’t be certain?

[@BBxx19]

Is it just me or are they really more responsive than Eve Motionblinds? My Eve doesn’t react as fast as these.

[@JohnnyLeuthard]

Can you manually pull the shades down? I'm thinking of an example that there is a really long span of not enough sun and you have the solar option and you are ready for bed want to close the blionds and there is not enough juice to close them. Can you just pull them down to close them or are you stuck with blinds that will not close?

[@chrisrioux]

I’d imagine you could plug them in to charge, go brush your teeth, and by the time you’re done getting ready for bed, they’d have enough juice to at least unroll/block the window, but this is just a guess based on how quickly my other devices seem to charge a dead battery to 15% or so).

[@shaunwc1986]

Hey Shane, I recently purchased the Eve upgrade kit for some existing shades that I already have. Does this brand have any sort of upgrade kit?

[@shaunwc1986]

I don’t think the Eve upgrade kit is thread, so just curious.

[@ShaneCreates]

No, Smart Wings does not offer an upgrade kit that I'm aware of. The Eve upgrade kit does also use Thread.

[@shaunwc1986]

@@ShaneCreates I noticed the Thread, but not Matter. Do you think they’ll eventually upgrade to Matter with those devices? I really liked how well it upgraded my existing roller shades.

[@shaunwc1986]

And I’m hoping to get mostly Matter devices to build out that matter network.

[@ShaneCreates]

@@shaunwc1986 yes the Eve upgrade kit should receive a firmware update to support Matter in the near future.

[@ahmeteris1893]

Hi Shane, I have some question. I am confused about matter. Matter is management standart protocol but we need a communication protocol like that wifi, zigbee or thread? Is it correct? If I remember corret you mention before thread isnt stable now and you have some problem with thread supported product. What do you think about that?

[@ShaneCreates]

Yes that's correct, Matter is the "application layer" and utilizes various protocols including wifi, ethernet, and thread. I'd recommend watching a recent video I made a couple weeks ago on Matter and my whole experience this year with it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naaTlXako9Zsoa8

[@ahmeteris1893]

@@ShaneCreates I am ok about matter. I am worried about thread. I am selling smart home product, as you know so eve home support thread and thread technology is so good especially mesh technology. But I dont test thread, I think its not stable now.

[@ahmeteris1893]

@@ShaneCreates Did you solve your problems with Threads?

[@thespencerowen]

This is exactly what I’m looking for… however it will be over $250 per window without solar. 😢

[@thesinfull1441]

I’m not sure if you noticed yet, but there’s another QR code on the very bottom of the shade itself so you don’t have to dismount the shades to get the QR code.

[@ShaneCreates]

There was not on the ones I received.

[@pwicketts]

$400? I just installed blinds on 5 windows from just blinds all with Aqara e1 for $500. I also have soma smart shades on three windows and spent $400 between the controller and blinds.

[@dadsalleb]

The price is insane...

[@ShaneCreates]

Don’t look up Lutron shades 😬

[@Srjr0122]

Damn for those prices I would just go with lutron

[@ShaneCreates]

Lutron Serena shades are great, but those would still cost you about twice as much as these.

[@khalilchan2485]

can you do a vid on the best homekit smart buttons that you can use straight out the box like wi-fi thread matter or just the homepod mini Edit: i have an idea, chapter 1 is about the budget ones chapter 2 is if you want a good button like philips hue but still affordable and 3 the flic buttons

[@vinzleow3817]

This or a switchbot?

[@Z22-m5o]

I wonder why they don't have a dedicated app ?

[@ShaneCreates]

Really no need to honestly, unless you plan to have additional features that are not supported by Matter. Why spend time, money, and resources building an app when people can (and probably will) just use their Matter controller apps for everything? It kinda makes sense to me. I'd rather them put those resources into making the best product possible.

[@Z22-m5o]

​@@ShaneCreates Yeah, that makes sense. I have a couple lutron shades I will be installing shortly and will probably go with them throughout the house. We did want a couple of the zebra blinds but lutron doesn't make them so I thought about trying a couple from smartwings.

[@tharais]

@@ShaneCreates Yep. The SwitchBot Hub 2 has this great, trainable IR blaster that was an added value for us to be able to control our IR remote, battery powered candles. But alas, it isn't exposed to HomeKit. ☹ But, the IR blaster does work with Siri shortcuts.

[@miami3863]

@@Z22-m5oI’m doing half Lutron triathlon and half SmartWings zebra. Main windows in the front of the house are zebra as the side back are Lutron.

[@demondub.]

lol $300 for matter motor