This is what Shanghai looked like in 1973. I wonder how much has changed since. See the next clip for part 2 See my other 1000 clips by searching KZbin with 'michael rogge' Website 'Man and the Unknown' wichm.home.xs4all.nl/
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@johnsamu8 жыл бұрын
I visited Shanghai several times 2008-2011 but this looks like a different planet.
@BILLCC19887 жыл бұрын
you are lucky and wise, some westerns still thinking China as in the documentary. At least in Europe, that happens.
@andrewmasse86215 жыл бұрын
@@BILLCC1988 I was very impressed by Shanghai and chinese technology and cities. The people were also very nice and courteous. I had heard so many negative things about China before going myself. I went in 2018 and cannot wait to return.
@harutosunaa38813 жыл бұрын
Yep
@rosofficesolutionsinc15723 жыл бұрын
Same with almost all cities in the world. All change with time
@johnsamu3 жыл бұрын
@@rosofficesolutionsinc1572 It depend. For example London and NYC have changed also but in no way as much as Shanghai has. If you look at old movies from postwar (eg sixties) London, NYC, Shanghai and compare those to current videos the different becomes apparent. It's also visible in the numbers China in a few decades (so also Shanghai) has used more concrete and steel in building infrastructure than the USA in the entirety of its existence.
@MarkFeltonProductions5 жыл бұрын
I lived in Shanghai for 10 years and I recognise many of the places in the film, though its now dominated by hi rises and skyscrapers. I notice that Pudong, where I lived until 2014, was just fields in 1973. The one thing that hasn't changed is the Chinese people - I recognise in the video exactly the same street life today as 45 years ago. And many people still live in the lane houses that survive as run down districts among the overpasses and new apartment buildings. We look today at North Korea in exactly the same way as we in the West viewed China in the 1970s. Fascinating.
@2prize3 жыл бұрын
Didnt expect to see you here
@thanos89483 жыл бұрын
woah what are you doing here, it's a surprise
@thanos89483 жыл бұрын
@@2prize yeah me too, i didn't even know he lived in shanghai for 10 years
@ReginaldPugginton3 жыл бұрын
Cities change so fast, sometimes it's amazing to see pictures from just a couple years ago
@hsun79973 жыл бұрын
And now Americans/white people are scared that China is going to overtake America/Europe as the next superpower.
@philchinamusical2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1973. Shanghai didn't change much until the end of 1980's so I got to see what the footage shows. So nostalgic.
@klausschweitzer6931 Жыл бұрын
Es ist sehr gut wenn wir auf unsere Heimat sehen können . ALLE
@gladeocean6324 Жыл бұрын
Hello old man😁
@ELPaso1990TX Жыл бұрын
I thought in 1973 was cultural revolution and everyone had dark blue / denim Mao suits.
@Angel-th8yz3 жыл бұрын
我就是上海的,我1974年出生,看了这个片子让我仿佛又回到了那个时候,非常感谢
@brighthorse69812 жыл бұрын
1978上海人来了,阿姐好啊
@xiuwenyin6439 Жыл бұрын
朴素.简单.纯真的上海人的生活.周日群众革命干部都集体参加大扫除队伍!
@DezRoey8 жыл бұрын
这是非常珍贵的资料 谢谢你
@michaelijsbrand12 жыл бұрын
@FT9910 No it was 1973 but I made a mistake in the title. It should be Shanghai forty years ago. A simple case of arithmetic!
@Jack_of_Helsinki8 жыл бұрын
I wonder what that reporter would say if he visit in Shanghai today.
@itrthho4 жыл бұрын
He has been making documentaries up till 2012 on US and international subjects. I’m confident he has visited Shanghai since this documentary. Would be great if he would make a video about it.
@lynkung40183 жыл бұрын
" I wonder what that reporter would say if he visit in Detroit, Chicago, South-central LA, Skid Row LA today"
@xcx65072 жыл бұрын
@@lynkung4018 Detroit is in a whole new level LMAO
@hoppinggnomethe4154 Жыл бұрын
Shanghai, the City of Thick Smog
@hoppinggnomethe4154 Жыл бұрын
@@lynkung4018 Detroit, The Jungle of Gunshots Chicago, the Kingdom of Crime Gangs Los Angeles, the Land of the Homeless
@unapesce2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much to share this precious video with us.
@TheDarkCurrent12 жыл бұрын
My wife is from Shanghai and I first in 1990. At that time some of it still looked much as seen in the video. I've lived here for about 6 and a half years now and the city is almost completely changed, though I can still see some of those famous old buildings on the Bund (Waitan) across the river outside my window. Very well done. Thank you!
@michaelijsbrand11 жыл бұрын
I live in Amsterdam, Netherlands. We have just passed a winter-period with snow and skating. Today we also had some snow.
@crazycarreview53985 жыл бұрын
Sir,How can i send message tu u?
@DeepwithFeifei8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload... this is an important peace of historical documentation!
@trulyharsh2 жыл бұрын
piece*
@Anthony-go1yk5 жыл бұрын
What a strangely functional and straightforward society and life in urban Shanghai just 2 generations ago. My mother was born in the Shanghai of the 70's and recalled life being similar to this video. This is not to say that the Shanghai of today is not magnificent, with it's insanely clean and functional metro system, cosmopolitan lifestyle and fabulous architecture; though I can't help but feel that the rift of inequality has been exponentially getting worse. Boarded up grimy slums next to anonymous skyscrapers, rusty bicycles cycling near expensive foreign cars. Man I miss China and the crowds. Life is much more stressful, complicated and inhumane back home in LA County
@chenyangwang93287 жыл бұрын
"Pollution is not yet a major problem. They can't ignore it" 哈哈哈哈
@Abshenonas5 жыл бұрын
and meanwhile I am watching this documentary on a day in which Nanjing is polluted at its worst. Might be why I'm inside watching this video right now.
Shanghai is now the most developed city in China and among the top cities in the world. Damn…
@anking76628 жыл бұрын
Irv Drasnin's career in documentary filmmaking and broadcast journalism includes 35 years at CBS News and PBS, covering a wide range of topics both foreign and domestic, contemporary and historical. Among his 31 films are The Guns of Autumn, Apartheid, Who Has a Right to Rhodesia, Inside the Union, The Radio Priest, Forever Baseball and a chronicle of modern China beginning with Misunderstanding China (1972), Shanghai (1974), Looking for Mao (1983), China After Tiananmen (1992) and The Revolutionary (2011).
@LaowaiDaveJCP Жыл бұрын
it's Sunday, 21st May, 2023 I'm living in Shanghai rn watching this video. when i look out the window it's a different world probably the most futuristic city you can find on planet earth its wild the changes are crazy
5 жыл бұрын
Amazing to watch it in 2018. We are living in Shanghai from 2014 and I started also Vlog about this city. But this video documentary is showing the old beautiful Shanghai
Mr. Michael Rogge, 👌 ( Thanks a lot for uploading the clip!!)👏🌹🙏 🇳🇵Love from Nepal !!!
@subigyalamichhane13633 жыл бұрын
Hamro Nepal Pani yestai thyo yaar 40 barsha agadi Aja hami kata uniharu kata bho. Sab energy jholey haru ley andolan garera sidhyaya bikash ko tah kurai chaina.
@kesharkhadkapunwar20293 жыл бұрын
@@subigyalamichhane1363 👏🌹🙏
@randytheninja3 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm from Korea ^^!!
@DraganKrstic12 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for part two. It looks like well balanced documentary, which reflects improvements in CN-USA relationships. It is fascinating how China didn't change and how much China is changed since then. I love the part with traffic jam.
@rossmorebaz9 жыл бұрын
really interesting to see this.. wow how things have changed in shanghai.. thanks for uploading
@michaelijsbrand12 жыл бұрын
Part 2 has already been uploaded, as well as many other clips of old china. Serach KZbin with michael+rogge+china
@bigmob13685 жыл бұрын
I’m fucking stoned and this is so interesting
@JeffClithero12 жыл бұрын
You can simply enjoy the film with the sound off. The shots of working junk rigged ships is quite rare and instructive. Thanks, Michael.
@yogi96312 жыл бұрын
Great doco. Thanks for the upload.
@hebneh11 жыл бұрын
It's no wonder that the crowds at the beginning were staring at the foreigners making a movie - from Shanghai being a foreign-controlled city up to 1949, to virtually all foreigners disappearing for decades, it was extremely unusual to see any non-Chinese in the early '70s. I had friends who visited in 1981 and they too were surrounded by large groups of curious people even then.
@iwantyouinthissong9 жыл бұрын
"Pollution is not a big problem... almost half a century after this..."
@ninja16768 жыл бұрын
Shanghai have changed a lot in 4 decades
@user-kb5wc4cc9j3 жыл бұрын
4 decades.. If mao dead just 10 years early..
@redstarfarms27783 жыл бұрын
I think the WORLD changed so much in 40years, even “safe countries” who never had revolutions in theat time, or civil wars, or been bombed.
@rafaelosorio22513 жыл бұрын
Shanghai is other now.
@ericlai16593 жыл бұрын
@@user-kb5wc4cc9j If democracy works, why hasn’t India changed in 40 years?
@user-kb5wc4cc9j3 жыл бұрын
@@ericlai1659 i didnt say democracy is good system
@lzjwhu10 жыл бұрын
very nice footage and the voice over is particularly good.
@rafaelosorio22513 жыл бұрын
80s voice
@shawmitchoudhary6480 Жыл бұрын
From this to what it is now in less than 50 years, just an incredible economic achievement. Visited Shanghai a few years back and was completely mind blown!
@aek12 Жыл бұрын
India still looks filthy. We as Indian are not doing nothing other than moving out this country.
@morningstararun62786 ай бұрын
@@aek12 Tbh, overall, 1973 China looks much better than 2023 India.
@xiaofangmi6747 жыл бұрын
thanks to share this video with us..as a shanghaiese I don't know what was looking like 40 years ago
@hikari-gy8jm Жыл бұрын
I am not Chinese but my mother is Chinese and she was born in 1973. It's amazing that the video is the year my mother was born. My father lived well when he was young, so he bought a TV early. But I heard that the Chinese mother first bought a TV in the late 80s, and I was surprised to hear that.
@appledailyencore2 жыл бұрын
感謝分享影片! 13/11/2021
@shangyujin758 жыл бұрын
I live in shanghai now and it's so different!!! It's even more expensive than other countries!!! The house cost you more 70000 dollars per square meter!!!
@shangyujin758 жыл бұрын
That's true
@shangyujin758 жыл бұрын
you weirdo
@shangyujin758 жыл бұрын
go to shanghai
@teddykurniawan42388 жыл бұрын
乱七八糟说话
@mitchellgao22847 жыл бұрын
it more makes sense 70000 RMB per square meter
@linguist8623 Жыл бұрын
I hope there are more videos of China pre-1980’s Reform and Opening Up. I have two daughters that are Chinese-Jewish Americans. So, although they were born in ChengDu, now live in the USA, and speak multiple languages, it is important to know about their homeland’s history and development. I also hope the USA-Israel-China relations grow, and can learn from history and now, to strengthen and enhance communication, community, and safety in a globalized world society.
@lamber83125 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you know who is the copyright owner of this video? We'd like to use some clips in our videos.
@theodoreroosevelt85374 жыл бұрын
The best documentary at that time
@fastfood847212 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video.
@leandropierro89964 жыл бұрын
Very nice 👍👍 Best wishes from Germany 💪💪
@user-rq9by3eh8y4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video
@kevkevkevinhuang158310 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@shanghaiedsigrid10 жыл бұрын
Amazing images
@user-py4rl1pd9m11 жыл бұрын
actually I think shanghai experienced a dramatic change over the past 30 years .
@mohmeegaik66862 жыл бұрын
Its incredibly amazing that the present-day Shanghai has beaten the world to be so advanced within a few decades. Thanks for the video.
@dranelemakol3 жыл бұрын
How is there so much economic activity? Was everything state-owned?
@Likwidfox Жыл бұрын
My uncle showed my some photos of when he was there in 73 for the Navy so different
@DraganKrstic12 жыл бұрын
I already watched. Thanks.
@jukio02 Жыл бұрын
Man, it's crazy how much China has changed.
@theodoreroosevelt85374 жыл бұрын
Shanghai the best Asian City in 1920-30s
@hkchrism12 жыл бұрын
I think they've built a couple new buildings since then...
@user-qt2gn5yh1l10 жыл бұрын
this is really cool :)
@nikolasirovica32502 ай бұрын
‘There are no private vehicles, and everyone commutes by bike’ This literally looks like a dream. I’d much rather prefer this to the car dominated cities we live in today. Let’s bring this back.
@unicorntvproducciones4462 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, I am writing to you from a tv program in Spain. For a report that we are doing we would like to include a fragment of this video of yours. It would only be a few seconds. We would be delighted to thank you for the program. Thanks in advance
@mannjohn79452 жыл бұрын
my first time to shanghai is in summer 1989,where was like the documentary video.
@shushu95698 жыл бұрын
industrization change the world,and sitll change the Chineeee too!industrization are very useful for modern world, and they arent come from some thought and theory
@mirandagaby48955 жыл бұрын
Hello Michael, Your 1000 clips are all about China please?
@artzjartzj34703 ай бұрын
I was born in Shanghai, and in that year, I would love to see a video of Shanghai from the time of my birth.
@Tiejocky3 жыл бұрын
7:46 “a city where housing is crowded but cheap”. Talk to any Shanghai folks today and they will tell you housing is anything but cheap
@Liu-pm1np3 жыл бұрын
not cheap if you realize that most Chinese earn less than $5 a mouth in that period of time. Housing can never be cheap.
@xsm82973 жыл бұрын
很珍贵的史料!
@G0125p4 жыл бұрын
The whole market has zero plastic usage. Everyone bring their basket. That's good.
China managed to build a huge high speed network in 15 years,but my country only managed to build a short 80 mile line from the capital to the eurotunnel
@FATHOLLYWOODB123 Жыл бұрын
one of the very few benefits of giving the government total control, trade that for say a free conscious, which would you rather have?
@aldoushuxley60805 жыл бұрын
It’s incredible how fast China has advanced and become wealthy. Decades ago, 100s of millions of people were living poverty. I don’t like communist supporting regimes but they deserve credit for changing their country so fast.
@ttvmikimoto54754 жыл бұрын
Communism brought them widespread poverty and famine. China is no longer a true communist country, they're recent prosperity in past decades is from opening up to trade and certain capitalist ideas. Communism is in no way responsible for the positive changes.
@superfamicom56323 жыл бұрын
@@ttvmikimoto5475 china was never a communist country. china is a country tried every way to improve itself.
@hoppinggnomethe4154 Жыл бұрын
no, they don't deserve the credit. Communist China began shaking hands with the US in the early 70s. that's when the miracle slowly began to happen. in the 80s, Communist China exported lots of guns to the US civilian market. that's the fact that I know, and I am very sure about this fact. trades with the West really helped Communist China became more developed.
@hoppinggnomethe4154 Жыл бұрын
@@superfamicom5632 if you think so, you're very wrong. they tried and failed. that's why they resorted to "half-assed communism"
@venitomendivil2533 Жыл бұрын
7:25 Guy almost pokes another guys eye out 😆
@user-ff5xy6lu4v4 жыл бұрын
Pls compare with today too. Your video will give more accurate picture of another country.
@salah70536 жыл бұрын
the life was humble fantastic and nice in the past not like the one we live now
@bldomain Жыл бұрын
Build a time machine and go to the past. The future belongs to people with vision and goals.
@bonbonwen2 жыл бұрын
10:00 The guy said the price of two fish is 1.32 yuan. The average monthly wage is 36 yuan. This is not an everyday luxury!
@weizhang28345 жыл бұрын
This is 60 years ago actually Around 1960s
@junosaxon4370 Жыл бұрын
It's surprising, but some of those scenes can still be seen in China today. Buggies or carts completely overloaded, people getting haircuts in the street by street barbers, people living in Hutongs (some are nice, others aren't, outside toilets to be shared by the community living in a Hutong (basically just holes in the ground with no toilet paper or soap or hot water and no separation, people crouch next to each other over the separated holes). People (especially migrant workers living in very small rooms with a bed, .mattress or bunk beds, sometimes the rooms are two or three levels below ground in a basement). Of course, there are the modern places, skyscrapers etc. for the fortunate, but a lot of people are still living in the old style. Having said all that, I lived in Beijing and I loved it there, but I felt sorry for the poor, for the migrant workers, who are exploited, barely get enough to live on, and are living in bad conditions. I speak about Beijing, but this can be found everywhere in China. I truly miss Beijing and my friends there, among them the poor and also migrant workers, as well as the more fortunate.
@LaowaiDaveJCP Жыл бұрын
not really. You can't find those anywhere else other than Beijing, some lanes in Chongqing & GuangZhou where people flock from rural areas everyday even now. having said that many people living in these same cities now live the most futuristic life you can have on planet earth that makes your first world cities look very gloomy. right?
@junosaxon4370 Жыл бұрын
@@LaowaiDaveJCP Right. Beijing has the incredible mix of ancient and modern. I really miss Beijing.
@akapasokopo Жыл бұрын
I hate the Chinese government, but I doubt hutongs are still as bad as you say
@hanyilv12 жыл бұрын
上海当时的经济是被毛泽东搞臭的,但是在那种高压统治下治安的确是不错(文革高峰时期除外) the economy of shanghai was ruined by Mao zedong, however, the crime rate was pretty low at that time (except some years during the culture revolution)
@zhangviking234 жыл бұрын
现在是2020年了。
@cfrancishui12 жыл бұрын
waiting for part2, "fish was 40cents a pc.".....the non-farmed yellow croaker fish i had in a restaurant two months ago in shanghai was 1,200yuan, (USD180.-)
@WINDYCHUNG3 жыл бұрын
People were poor at that time, but we were happy. Now, too much materials and attractions, we lost pure&simple spirit.
@WINDYCHUNG3 жыл бұрын
@@noritos7648 exactly, but i still do not want to praise pure communist regime. Capitalism leads inequality among people, government needs to regulate and redistribute wealth. The wealth creation actually need capitalists. Anyway, Eastern Germany was much richer at that time, it was the richest communist country to my view.
@meekhinglim482910 жыл бұрын
as a Malaysian Chinese I am not aware of life in China during the 1970s. I just know of Chairman Mao who dominated a huge influence of the country policies, Surprising the Shanghainese already knew businesses and trading at those time
@meekhinglim48298 жыл бұрын
+Max K We the Chinese do felt being treated unfairly in one way or another. Special priviledge were given to the so called Bumiputera. However thank to it, we are immune, self reliance and self dependent and do not rely on the present Government goodies, we are strong and taught our young generation to be strong mentally, independent and work hard if we want success . Today we are much better off than most of the Bumiputera and we come clean in term of hard earned money and we are proud of ourselves.
@meekhinglim48298 жыл бұрын
+Max K what made you have in mind of choosing to live in Malaysia? I am actually encouraging my offspring to migrate elsewhere where everyone is treat equally and the Government is fair and their Ministers are not racist. Though I was born in Sarawak, the Malaysian Eastern State across the South China Sea I do not speak fluent Bahasa Malaysia till today as during my childhood and toward my high school Bahasa Malaysia was not emphasized in our education. I was brought up in a missionary school where we have teachers from India and our Father a Dutch and even my English teacher was from Great Britian. Here in our state of sarawak, we live a rather peaceful lives where people of various ethic and races mingle well and respect one another .Those who have been to Sarawak shall feel the different in the quality of life in between the Peninsular Malaysia and Borneo States- Sarawak & Sabah.
@fenxian10 ай бұрын
(End) Shanghai market, old lady: 把哦称4角夯里肉,新喜额:) bought a piece of meat at 40 cents RMB, fish total “一角二”, 12 cents? (Beginning)Breakfast for 1 person: 油條 4 cents each, onion crepe 3 cent, soy milk 4 cent.
@ChristianJiang5 жыл бұрын
Stop complaining about “China would not build a city like this”, it’s not a racist judgement!! They’re simply saying that if the Chinese were going to build a big city, they wouldn’t make it like that (with an English style)... People get triggered over too many things
@miketurner3258 жыл бұрын
nice
@ddr3519 Жыл бұрын
Looks like northern England at the same time, especially at 5:55
@janakatharanga57163 жыл бұрын
🌹❤️🌹
@michaelijsbrand12 жыл бұрын
You may be right. It may be a clamorized picture.
@michaelijsbrand11 жыл бұрын
"the weather is pretty good". You mean: never mind the smog!
@Gcw20064 жыл бұрын
MichaelRogge thanks. I was in Shanghai that time.
@chrissonnenschein66344 жыл бұрын
Interesting: during the Cultural Revolution marriage was at 25 years and 2 children.. From the 80s and the start of the “Great Experiment” marriage was 30 years and 1 child only.
@anniechen7246 Жыл бұрын
No, that's not right. They didn't restrict the marriage age.( not 30, just above 22 you are allowed to get married)
@perfectionist81012 жыл бұрын
Aside from the fact that the city skyline looks more like this today: The gap between the rich and poor is huge now. There's no more free healthcare. Vegetable market is entirely staffed by migrant workers who make barely enough to survive. Housing market is no longer affordable for the majority (price reflects that of Tokyo while average wage is less than half of Tokyo's). Traffic is even worse because of car ownership. Corruption, prostitution are the norm...
@ashupatil9098 Жыл бұрын
The rich have gotten richer and poor are at their worst in the past 50 years......by how things have turned out today, we can pretty much predict the future....I think one of the major issues in the future will be UNEMPLOYMENT, and by unemployment I mean good jobs for the college graduates. The lower middle class is the worst hit community today and things are about to become worse.
@1AvW110 жыл бұрын
Interessante film. Ik luister maar niet teveel naar de begeleidende teksten. Gezien onderstaande ruzies over goed of slecht is er kennelijk veel dat monden opent en woorden losbreekt. Ik kijk liever naar de beelden, die indrukwekkend zijn!
@cadhlaohanlon44432 жыл бұрын
looks like a cleaner version of present Mumbai.
@romancorey67965 жыл бұрын
7:45. Hahahaha. If only they could see the prices today
@FT991012 жыл бұрын
i believe this was 1983?
@DraganKrstic12 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even born at that time, but as I said in previous comment, it was a year after Nixon's visit.
@AMOFOUR4x4 жыл бұрын
Well...THEY CAUGHT UP!
@courtly5982 Жыл бұрын
I still see some of these faces on the street of Shanghai, they look like descendants of these people
@kaslanakiana39272 жыл бұрын
Back in time people dressed more properly than today.
@aalomac5 жыл бұрын
47年前
@user-kr1ep8rg5c2 жыл бұрын
Wow !! Now some parts in Mumbai looks like this 😀😂
@haryhary66332 жыл бұрын
This is better than 80% of African countries today.(I am an African)
@Roberto-dw5jz Жыл бұрын
@@haryhary6633 Tell that to South Sudan and Egypt
@babybanana41524 жыл бұрын
一片祥和,街坊鄰居好不熱鬧
@InfiniteEel3 жыл бұрын
"we fought a war to open China up to the world" *laughs*
@fibersden6383 жыл бұрын
Exactly...How condescending
@Harry2002-z9q3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 now china is dominating world trade
@stoggafllik3 жыл бұрын
@@Harry2002-z9q Napoleon once said China is a sleeping giant
@presidentjiang67623 жыл бұрын
@@stoggafllik hi you remember me?
@stoggafllik3 жыл бұрын
@@presidentjiang6762 No I don’t remember you. Could you stay away from me? I don’t want the coronavirus.
@chrisleon272 жыл бұрын
Greetings from China
@carmenw43263 жыл бұрын
Yes. The chinese would not have built a city this way. No doubt Shangwai has got western and chinese culture and style. It was highly influenced by western countries during 20s-40s, and so it was the best city in asia by that time. When the communists took place, the city development went backwards, but still, one of the better cities in China. You can imagine how other cities would be. Shanghai today is very different from 40 years ago(acutally 48 years ago), China has adopted more modern " socialism", more like a half capitalism, and that's how shanghai become shanghai nowadays.
@user-mn7iv4qe5u2 жыл бұрын
7O年代的人看起來身體很健康
@hoppinggnomethe4154 Жыл бұрын
people everywhere in the 1970s look healthy.
@xiuwenyin6439 Жыл бұрын
红薯🍠.番茄🍅.乔麦面,长大的70年代的人.都很健康.
@mr.commander39472 жыл бұрын
which way is better, I like the old way, 50 years old way, better integraty. you only see struggle on the street, but not too much at work, at home.