Shanghai's Creative Uprising: Behind China's Great Firewall

[@EyFmS]

All the power to these young people, you have the power to change the future of China. Don't let barriers from the past stop you from creating and expressing yourselves.

[@mehmetrumidemir1534]

“The government knows everything bro... ganggang”

[@jjpepper7071]

honestly mood

[@Suburban_Pantsula]

Bruh😂😂😂

[@GStampedeIII]

Ask Africans how they like living in China

[@johnsond3426]

This is 2020 everything changed

[@ghostface-x5e]

11:02

[@PlagueFather]

China is in such a captivating yet scary place. This video was sick though

[@depgabby]

KillaCam2828 it’s a dictature, I wouldn’t want to live there 😬

[@jjpepper7071]

@Gabby do you mean dictatorship?

[@Yok_Knnn]

@@depgabby Never come, pls

[@uuuuuuuuiiiiiii]

Our idea of China is really skewed. I lived there for 6 months back in 2015 and not only was It was the best experience of my life, I also felt extremely safe at literally all times. Really opened my mind

[@Meinan4370]

It cann be a scary place for sure and has a lot of problems. chinese here

[@mikyooo1950]

SICK，as a Shanghainese，im so fckin lov it bro

[@regenwaldelfe121]

I'm impressed by this unique style way of creativity. Thanks to you for this Video

[@NBDesign]

Damn this was dope! Can anyone tell me about other cities in china with a sick art scene like this?!

[@MrSky10101]

Chengdu & Shenzhen

[@ryanchen3727]

Bourne to Travel ChengDu is China’s Amsterdam

[@touya]

I agree with others. Chengdu

[@acidmonkey8725]

Guangzhou has a great scene and a lot of influence and collab with HK

[@TheIvanNewb]

@Shah Bhuiyan Just what I've heard since I haven't been there, but Chengdu has a large underground scene. For example, a lot of the growing hip hop scene in China is from Chengdu (for example VaVa with My New Swag, as heard on the Crazy Rich Asians soundtrack).

[@dog-ez2nu]

Shanghai in comparison to other Chinese cities has got a bit more of a distinct identity, it has its own very dialect and has its own kind of culture - so I can imagine it being a bit of a rebellious cultural centre.

[@tq3632]

老生常谈的互联网防火墙的事，政府对于你上不上外网睁一只眼闭一只眼，只要你不做违法的事。无非就是花几十块买一个vpn，中国大 陆为什么要建墙？1：国民基本素质还没有到一定的高度，容易被境外势力鼓动。2：由于社会主义国家在国际社会上为少数，某些西方国家会用有色眼镜来看，很容易通过互联网渗透到国内。相信随着国民素质水平的稳步提升，后续共和国一定是越来越开放的。（这条就是在中国境内发出的）

[@jkhy23]

Truth bro

[@gofitness4284]

T Q agree

[@zhiruiliu2433]

感觉所谓的International internet = American domestic Internet，就是因为美国发展Facebook, Twitter, KZbin更早而且自认为美国国内法就适用于国际互联网对于那些要建立自己国家互联网的后发国家来说非常的不公平，而且完全就是在用美国国内法宣传反华信息促成颜色革命。虽然我也很反对防火墙，但是真的如果美国未来只要有一天还在继续这么做那么我还是觉得防火墙继续立着更好。毕竟现在互联网安全已经属于国家安全了，而且欧盟也有考虑可能要设立防火墙的必要。

[@l4isec]

回来了中国又回到欧洲感觉欧洲土到死了草

[@naomihouston5247]

𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯

[@DHart293]

Man, This can be considered dangerous for CCP in the future (individualism and freedom of expression) ... But i hope these guys can make a difference and a sense of deep purpose in their own homeland!

[@John77Doe]

D Hart 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@zqc8250]

nah bro they are them because of ccp, shanghai is rich af becauae it is planned this way. Its like punching your head with your own hands.

[@John77Doe]

@@zqc8250 Not all the mainland cities are first tier cities like Shanghai. Also, I am seeing posts from the Shanghai Free Trade Zone supporting the Hong Kong posts. 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐

[@emilraji4769]

The government knows promoting culture is the future it is aware of how it is innovativing in this regard. The aim is soft power ala South Korea only 10x more futuristic. Hip hop is huge in China, dominating the pop culture space.

[@berniebleak]

When Asian Dope Boys are eating at the end I never knew about Yin Yang Hot Pot!

[@lckvv7134]

我觉得他们的东西做的很酷，很有想法，回头上淘宝搜一搜不知能不能识图找到。但同时我想说，这些很难成为中国主流，因为这些艺术造型全是基于西方甚至东洋审美的空中楼阁，本土设计师所做的本土化彷佛是在拼命剥离中国元素，而不是融合。在中国经济崛起的今天，包括我在内的广大中国青年想要的是自己的文化自信，很抱歉早些年前那些“美国的就是酷的”“日本的就是好的”的思想现在不吃香了。更主流的青年文化反而是“土到极致就是潮”的国潮和汉服复兴。谢谢制作发布这个视频，但很抱歉我觉得报道得挺主观的，当然，这可能是剪辑的原因。里面传达的这种基于西方视角的愤世嫉俗，叛逆主义从来都是在中国水土不服的，而不是什么所谓“受到社会主义邪恶中国政权的排挤和传统落后文化的不容”。

[@andywang8848]

这个频道一直都很主观，就是为了自己的受众，其实有时候觉得很可惜，不能把中国年轻人客观看待世界的一面展现出来。

[@grumfeldvanderspooijwanker1627]

probably all have rich parents

one of the ladies in the end literally says she's poor 🤡🤡

[@racoondad3349]

Underlying assumption of this video: A Chinese yearning to look and sound western( maybe a fake distorted west that only exist in their brain) are good Chinese while those not are bad. Don't forget one thing: every Chinese in this video speaks English and ask how much of a percentage of people in an anglophone country speaks Chinese?

[@isaacsheu2282]

Yeah, I liked this video but got this impression too. Also, some of the people shown in this video are not native Chinese or they came from the most westernized parts of China (Scintii is from Taiwan, that other guy is an American of Hong Kong heritage and etc), so it's obvious they would prefer western aesthetics and music and criticize the CCP too. But it seemed kinda unfair to benefit from the economic burst and technological innovation that the CCP brought while pretending to be heavily oppressed and suppressed by the government when, in fact, it doesn't look like it. I'm not saying that the Chinese government can't be criticized, but this video showed contradiction. Why someone from Taiwan and the US would move to mainland China to be an avant-garde artist if the government censors they so much? But, anyways, Scintii made her global debut a while ago, if y'all want to listen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ-lhIVoh5p-aMk

[@skyblkbly7261]

@@isaacsheu2282 Do you know as a foreigner you could enroll yourself into lvy league colleague in China hundred times easier than the common people? The bar is set so low and also CCP provided monthly allowance to these bought 'foreign student'. The whole system is just to seed conflict and mistrust between chinese and everyone else. Far right is definitely on the rise in China.

[@berniebleak]

I don’t exactly agree with that assessment. The electronic music they are so enamored with draws more on eastern sources than western ones in general, when people like John Cage and Karlheinz Stockhausen were first experimenting with music they drew heavily on recordings of Buddhist ceremonies. Also the performance art shown draws heavily from eastern traditions. They are seeking any type of creative and youth culture they can find. Actually most of the textile factories near them are creating garments based on western designs and desires, the artists from this video are placing some of the only designs both by and for eastern consumers.

[@lunino4374]

That's 100% in your head, man. Most of the people don't dress "western" either. Sure, they take from some western aesthetics and aesthetics from overseas, but why do you equate that with "wanting to be western"? The people in the documentary seem to have a certain pride about their scene and it's Chinese-ness. You have just allowed your own hyer-nationalism to cloud your judgement. And sure, they are somewhat isolated subjects, but that's kind of the point. Pointing out that they are different, that they dress different, that they have different tastes doesn't assume that they are "better" than others or that they are representative of their country as a whole, if that was the case there would be no point in focusing on them.

[@lunino4374]

@@isaacsheu2282 Where is the CCP criticism in this video? They just vented frustration at certain aspects of censorship, it's not hypocritical at all. Are Americans hypocritical when they criticise police brutality, because they benefitted from the American government's historical prosperity? It seems like the CCP bootlicker community are hypersensitive when it comes to Chinese people having non-state fed opinions about anything. People in this video expressed the most benign dislike of the Great Firewall and instantly they are accused of being anti-CCP and chided for having any objections to any government policy just because of economic prosperity. It's absurd and pathetic.

[@zerotabi4689]

Now this video makes me reconsider my visit to Taj mahal(india) and go shanghai(china) instead....

[@mattbne7403]

Do it , you won't regret it !

[@jjpepper7071]

pay i subscribe visit both!

[@raphael9256]

lol，how India match with china other than language barrier.

[@jjpepper7071]

raphael karl they're both culturally rich

[@zerotabi4689]

​@@jjpepper7071 as if i'm a billionaire.... lmao!

[@fredymendez855]

My university in nj Kean has a bunch of kids from Wenzhou because we have a school in China as well. The girls have amazing drip ! Not do much the dudes but those girls can dress and unique as hell !

[@mpandunky]

These young people sound happier than most well-off adults I know

[@davidhuang9195]

美歐自認優越文化要影響中國,要使中國變成他們,其實中國悠久文化比他們好;如何使自己壯大才對,不必羨慕歐美,等他們羨慕中國使用wechat時 再開彼此才好

[@zhiruiliu2433]

就是...我也没觉得Facebook有多好，而且我们照样Tiktok也在西方很流行

[@PunkForAReason]

I feel like there is so much creativity ready to blow up in different ways there 💕💖❤

[@naughtiusmaximus789]

9:53 *DRAIN GANG* 😭🤧🤟

[@timzschiedrich1004]

can you name the song?

[@TIMO_XX]

Please how can I find the stylist Yin, she looks so good. 7:33

[@sakuragi9607]

This is a re-upload but still good

[@rasmusrasmusson]

More of this in Shanghai, please! Then Shanghai will be one of the major world cities...

[@l4isec]

chongqing its better

[@jvs333]

@@l4isec yes!! I was there summer of 2008. Amazing blade runner city, ENORMOUS!!!’ And beautiful!!!

[@jvs333]

Shanghai already IS a major world city, not sure where you’ve been the past 20 years

[@l4isec]

@@jvs333 I was there for job this summer and it was amazing

[@jvs333]

@@l4isec I didn’t want to leave. When I returned to the US I felt I went back in time :)

[@davidoshima6244]

So sad that COVID breaks all dreams and hope for these young creatives...

[@matthewjay660]

Hey, Vice? Thank-you for this video, but WHITE subtitles against a WHITE computer screen sucks. 3:58

[@ivanovskism]

What's the name of the last song?

[@ivanovskism]

Hyph11e - Unknown Number 未知

[@juan54321]

They are all very cool specially the last two kids

[@gray8wolfe651]

i want that china dope boy merch they are wearing how do i find it?

[@Suburban_Pantsula]

Cyberpunk 2020!!!!!!!!

[@sailorscorpio27]

I saw this when it was released on I-D, probs my fav I-D doc

[@X-Fauve]

Stay positive and Focus only on what you want and the not protesting is wise. That's the key. Keep it up.

[@zhiruiliu2433]

International internet = American domestic Internet :/ thank u

[@Organic.Mechanic]

Are u guys mad! U shouldn't have shown their faces if u were planning to show them using a VPN to jump from the fire wall!

[@imjustnia1692]

KZbin is blocked in China I doubt they would see this

[@depgabby]

Shania Maitland it’s blocked from the people, not the government

[@edstartisthe38]

using vpn is next to legal, because it is not something one will get punished for

[@Organic.Mechanic]

@@edstartisthe38 it's illegal in China

[@imjustnia1692]

Gabby yeah but I doubt the government is gonna be looking for vice docs

[@stylenonsense1228]

Love their style, but faux leather isn’t environmental friendly though it’s pvc so it’s very toxic plastic

[@fredymendez855]

Not to mention it will fade and dissolve lol real leather jacket will last for years

[@习近平在南极]

亚文化的明天会好吗

[@OneRequiem123]

Well done

[@kidultgao]

Vice is a propaganda machine.

[@haoyan98]

新时代的杀马特

[@galecarp]

好像都是北京那块过来的, 上海的就那个唱Rap的.

[@gunsroses1293]

@@galecarp 北京比上海先锋多了。

[@niannuh]

Cyberpunk 2020

[@MatteoLonghi7]

笑死 还把VPN展示出来

[@leastbindari]

Out X Exite

[@themessageman1159]

Dont worry Ive got a plan

[@mathyoooo2]

cyberpunk2077

[@_F_Y_]

what is creativity here?

[@cmonster6]

Maybe ask the people in Hong Kong what’s really going on in China

lmao, what a clown

[@u.syadav5321]

Every thing under CCP...

[@MrKAmsterdam]

Maybe something right-wing media telling you about Asia is not true.

[@zf5249]

Let’s just hope they are creating jobs for unprivileged

[@Psychometriks]

really funny to see a Chinese "artist" trying to speak like a black American gangster... I guess the Chinese are 10 year late on this one. Mixing Trap, punk and Chine culture very funny. Probably the only thing they are late for.

[@Psychometriks]

I meant just a copy of the past

[@Psychometriks]

I guess it is totally the opposite. They are pushed to be different... so they dress like this and live this way cause they like to be seen as different. Same everywhere

[@amoramor8193]

You dont really know what their motives are, making a comment like this and making assumptions only makes you look like a rather judgemental person.

[@XxvaxionxX]

Imitating the west is not style.