Shanks vs Mihawk - Has It Been Answered?

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[@zagessj]

The narrative of Kuina’s belief that she will never be the strongest swordsman because she’s a woman so she’ll be physically disadvantaged against men proves how SKILL (from a real world understanding of the word) will never make up for a lack of POWER. So the idea that Mihawk can the stronger swordsman but weaker than Shanks because he’s more SKILLED (from a real world understanding of the word) makes no sense. Anything that enhances POWER/MORE STRENGTH can be used alongside swordsmanship and all 3 types of Haki are the roots of the highest level of swordsmanship.

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

Hardly anyone noticed how superhumanly physically strong Shanks had to be to attack Whitebeard in this way. If Mihawk just had "skills" he wouldn't be able to do anything. As far as I know, Mihawk was destroying ships with sheer physical force. Technique alone wouldn't be enough.

[@toms6291]

@@LieutenantBoreyko It could have been Haki too, since Haki is the secret behind the ability tob "cut what one wants to cut and not cut what one doesn't want to cut".

[@daryussamuel4657]

Zoro literally told her not to use this as a prop otherwise it would invalidate all of the countless times he stood up to duel to her and lost. He clearly thought this logic was flawed. Then she died so we really don't know if this level of thinking actually had holds any bearing cause she is dead.

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

@@daryussamuel4657 Women are physically weaker than men and are unable to compete with men in sports that require physical strength. It is implied that Kuina committed suicide and could not accept this fact. What I mean is that if the best female competitor faces the best male competitor, the woman has no chance. The fastest Olympic female runners are at the level of male amateurs. Yamato fought with a club despite possessing huge tits and was able to defeat the weaker males but had no chance against Kaido. That was the narrative in 1997 when people didn't get indignant at the obvious facts. I will not even look at this comment section again knowing that there is no point in discussing the obvious things that trigger extreme aggression.

[@mstr293]

@@LieutenantBoreyko We don't even know why that's a think to begin with? Considering monsters like Big Mom, Yamato, Devon(?) and Boa Hancock exist in this world. Sure, BM's a freak of nature, but it doesn't look like the physical limitations we associate with women (being 1.5x-2x weaker than men due to muscle and testosterone) doesn't seem apply to this world considering fighters in the OP can literally punch/kick/cut through walls and other superhuman crap, regardless of gender. Not to mention, haki's not something that's limited by your muscles, either. If anything, that's just plot inconvenience on Oda's part.

[@draculemihawk0314]

•Shanks didn't activate his haki. •Shanks is not a swordsman. •Shanks is not in his prime during those days. •Shanks grows stronger while Mihawk is not. •Haki is not part of swordsmanship. •They only duel with swords without any haki involved. •Mihawk is just a better swordsman but Shanks is a greater MMA Fighter, Boxer, Sniper, Singer, Cook, Comedian, Carpenter, Lawyer, Policeman, Doctor, Veterinary, Salesman, Coach, Inventor, Scientist, Dentist, Fisherman, Firefighter, Janitor and a lot more just name it.

[@youtubeuser8875]

🤣🤣🤣

[@blacklighting8225]

Yeah this comment the one🤣🤣💀

[@mightguy3118]

Wtf Shanks is a swordsman 💀 if he ain't a swordman then what is he? Haki man? 🤣

[@S113Productions]

@@mightguy3118 I think it was a sarcastic joke to jab at the Shanks fans who say Shanks isn’t a swordsman.

[@mightguy3118]

@@S113Productions oh mb I'm dumb Ian see da last bullet point

[@D.Strawhat]

the problem with this debate is it just makes mihawk a complete fraud, if shanks is stronger but mihawk is “more skilled” that not only invalidates mihawks title but it also means skill is literally obsolete to powerful haki and u dont need skill u just need to be born with conquerors haki🤣

[@yaboiplank6764]

it literally means current zoro is already stronger these fools know no bounds

[@saeednaser3133]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mstr293]

Dude, Mihawk 100% has CoC at this point. There's no denying it considering Zoro's confirmed to have it. The argument here is that Shank's mastery over haki is just way above Mihawk's, as opposed to the latter having the better sword skill instead. Also, the "World Strongest Swordsman" title can be taken seriously up until a certain point where meaning becomes more vague (above Yonko Commander level): Like who's the strongest between the strongest man, swordsman or creature? How accurate is the statement considering it's been 12 years since Mihawk and Shanks last fought? Has Mihawk displayed more impressive feats than Shanks? How accurate are these titles? The latter which, comes from the perception of the Marines/WG. Mind you, have been fooled by thinking Buggy's on their caliber. Are bounty titles just hype, Or perhaps a vague line between both truth or exaggeration?

[@mstr293]

@@omarahmed1139 Not downplaying him. No doubt in my mind that he's one of the strongest characters in OP, along with the previous Yonko, BB and Gear 5th Luffy. But not wanking him either! If there's one thing I hate, it's fanboys hyping up their fave characters so much, the shit on rival characters. Like Shanks wankers with them saying he can easily beat Kaido and BM. Now it's you Mihawk wankers who are being toxic. The problem with your statement is that Zoro is after the "Strongest Swordsman", not the "Strongest Man". Again, the title was given to him by the WG, despite having no clear winner as to who won vs Shanks and Mihawk 12 years ago. Like bounty prices, it's mostly hype and an unreliable/inaccurate indicator of power. The WG knew that Mihawk's currently the strongest Swordsman but they don't know how powerful he is exactly? For all we know, he got the title due to him challenging other Swordsmen, EXCEPT SHANKS. No sword-fighting between both for more 12 years straight. And you dare to make a clear conclusion based on what they said? Lastly, Zoro's not gonna lose face even if he didn't challenge Shanks. While Shanks is technically a "swordsman", his missing arm alone makes him less interesting to other Swordsmen as a price. Why do you think Mihawk accepted Zoro's challenge pre-timeskip and not Shanks? Despite the latter's clear strength/power advantage?

[@zacharygalloway6366]

You don't know if mihawk have conquerors kaki or not

[@hwaryun7042]

KOL fans be over dosing on the copium

[@lxfj2128]

We didn’t need this chapter to answer . Mihawk is stronger then every swordsman in the world. He awaits the day a swordsman surpasses his old rival shanks for an exciting challenge

[@okashira073]

you used the narrator's words which is enough evidence to confirm mihawk>shanks yet people have denied even the narrator but when oda botches stuff immensly they are the first people to jump into the casual bandwagon saying "go write your own story then"

[@mstr293]

@@okashira073 Not the narrator's (Oda's) words. It's the WG's words. You know, the same guy who said Buggy's Red Hair's rival. It seems unfair to take the former seriously but ignore the latter just because we, as an audience know it's a joke. But from the same source, the WG, it isn't!

[@sharkking4]

@@mstr293 bro SBS is ODAS word lmao

[@okashira073]

@@mstr293 you need to separate when oda gives literal emphasis and when things are a gag... appearently you either dont know OR you play dumb so you can sell your own agenda... its LITERALLY like saying people in one piece ackowledge mihawk to be the WSS but we dont need to take it seriously... everything about mihawk is serious most of the time things about buggy are a gag and tell me arent the WG part of odas writing? and to be literal it was the marines the part you re talking not the wg... sell your agenda elsewhere.. you wont find any glory here with such stupid arguments until you cut the bias and learn to separate gag from serious you re not allowed to talk to me

[@trascendentalreader34]

@@okashira073 This was a Vivre Card statement not narrator's sword*

[@Mykes]

Story wise Mihawk SHOULD be stronger than Shanks Luffy's goal is to become the Pirate King and Shanks is just stepping stone for that nothing more. While Zoro's end all be all is to beat Mihawk. Pirate King and Strongest Swordsmen should be the top 2 title would be just weird if Luffy becomes #1 and Shanks #2 while is Zoro #3

[@mstr293]

Mihawk doesn't even acknowledge Shanks as a worthy swordsman due to his one arm. He'll even consider Zoro's challenge right now over Red Hair despite the former being far stronger right now.

[@cocncnc7092]

Bro what. Did you read chapter 1? If you think Shanks is just a stepping stone in Luffy's journey then idk what to tell you. Luffy's journey only even exists because of Shanks, his whole purpose in becoming a pirate was through being inspired by Shanks. Luffy's goal right now 1000+ chapters into the story is to become a great pirate and return the strawhat to Shanks.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@cocncnc7092 he's a stepping stone, but keep coping

[@cocncnc7092]

@@Dave_of_Mordor Okay. A stepping stone in the main characters story is still more important than the endgame of a side characters story tho lol

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@cocncnc7092 zoro is a main...i'm talking about one piece here, not two pieces

[@darkreaper2528]

Bro, if anyone debates this topic, just tell them to look at Mihawk's Vivre Card, that's Oda's word...

[@S113Productions]

But then they’ll say “vivre cards aren’t canon” even though they’re canon and 100% supervised by Oda, lol, then they’ll come up with some bullshit excuse saying “His title is only about swordplay!” when his title is confirmed to be about strength in the databooks. It’s a never-ending debate with his downplayers.

[@darkreaper2528]

@@S113Productions the audacity lol

[@cocncnc7092]

@@S113Productions They aren't supervised by Oda, why u lying

[@S113Productions]

@@cocncnc7092 An interview stated by the editors confirms they are supervised by him, lol.

[@cocncnc7092]

@@S113Productions Yea Oda supervises the blood types and character heights part

[@justhere6507]

This chapter to me highlighted one major thing HOW BIASED AND DUMB ALOT OF ONE PIECE FANS ARE

[@Tarnished5Leaf]

For the Greenbull thing, he’s literally holding his sword 😂

[@mahirsharma7789]

Even if he didn't The effect will be same

[@Supermateo97]

The main issue with this debate is not the fight itself, but all Shanks fans (and a large community of OP fans in general), have the idea that Shanks is the strongest _living_ character in One Piece. So by saying Mihawk can beat him, you're implying that Mihawk is the strongest, and with a lot of OP fans, that is underwhelming.

[@user-vf3pz4br1g]

He is the strongest swordsman. End of. His introductions have said it, his Vivre Card has said it, and characters have said it. Shanks is a swordsman. There's no such thing as "true" or "pure" swordsmen. It's just swordsmen. Stop nitpicking so your messiah Shanks can win. I think you can do the math.

[@sigmadleo8943]

Great video Zage

[@mathieuleader8601]

Considering Dracule could be based off Romania's national hero Vlad the Impaler given that in this real world figures backstory that Vlad's brother and dad where killed by local warlords it would be really cool if Oda used this historical fact for Mihawk's backstory have Mihawk's brother and father whom are royals or Celestial Dragons or high ranked guards at Castle Pangea killed by Luffy's foster family the Dadan Family which explains Garp's throwaway comment about the Dadan Family having bounties as high as the stars.

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

I mean, you know how they know Mihawk has "better skill" than Shanks? Cause they FOUGHT and Mihawk WON. We already know from Zoro that the world strongest swordsman title is achieved by A FULL ON FIGHT Not by going to a fair and see who cuts bamboos more smoothly We ONLY will know Zoro is "more skilled" when he BEATS Mihawk in a fight.

[@Greg12839]

mihawk has never defeated shanks

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@Greg12839 It is the most likely. We know they had at least one legendary duel. We also know Mihawk not only holds the title, but recently we found out the marines KNOW, for some reason, that Mihawk is a better swordsman than Shanks. In this series the better swordsman is decided in s fight. Just like Zoro will be considered the best once he defeats Mihawk in a full on fight. Knowing this we can safely say Mihawk at least won their last duel, since thats the only way the marines could know he is a better swordsman than Shanks and it also makes sense since Mihawk still holds the title.

[@GodzillaFreak]

It's not stated the Mihawk won, it's stated they fought equally.

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@GodzillaFreak I know its not stated BUT. Since Mihawk is the one with the title of strongest he could not have lost. And also, the marines know, for some reason, that Mihawk is SPECIFICALLY a better swordsman than Shanks. As far as we know, the better swordsman is ONLY decided in a duel, just like Zoro will be considered the best swordsman once he defeats Mihawk in a duel. So considering that, Mihawk has to have won, at least as far as we know.

[@Greg12839]

@@eloquitodelaesquina Mihawk had the title before he fought shanks. when they fought it was a draw so hence mihawk wouldnt lose the title

[@istheyear-ry1el]

I like how you provide details like Big Mom swordsmanship of the Giant. I never knew this kind of info before.

[@llAzzalI]

Was waiting for this

[@henrykasenburg1115]

The shanks breath thing also explains how this dude shows up outta nowhere. Ain’t no observation haki catching him.. well besides one man of course

[@itsactuallytony5699]

No there is nobody anymore

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

You should be reading manga. Shanks in the manga is called "The Red Haired Wizard". The scenes where he draws his wand have been modified in the anime and he draws a sword instead of a wand. Shanks traverses the heavens on his griffin, splitting them with his mighty magic. HE HAS NEVER BEEN A SWORDSMAN!!! Now everything makes sense because it is impossible for Shanks to be weaker than Mihawk.

[@mstr293]

It's possible for Mihawk to be stronger than Shanks! You see, if we follow logical methods, we're going to need more proof from the former. Like feats? That would be a good way. Instead of just relying on statements from bounty posters. The latter which we know comes from the Marines/WG. Who has no idea how Mihawk measures up with Shanks compared to their last data of these two (12 years ago)? Not to mention, failure from the WG to clarify who's the strongest among the Strongest man, swordsman or creature? We're also left to question it's accuracy as with Buggy, these statements can be fallacious. At this point, these titles are meant to be a form of hype rather than accurate representation of power. Not saying Mihawk isn't powerful. I personally place him with admirals or even a bit higher? My point is we need more proof!

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

@@mstr293 If the title of World's Strongest Swordsman is out of date then Zoro's dream is one big joke. The WSS title is not awarded by the Marines. What do they have to do with it? Who gave this title to Mihawk? Narrator in Chapter 50. Eichiro Oda. It's the people who say Shanks is stronger have to prove it.

[@hanma_inu]

@@LieutenantBoreykoIt's the Shanks fanboy.

[@faith4657]

@@LieutenantBoreyko dude the WG aren't they the ones regulating everything from what we see they have the means to give out titles as they are always trying to put everything under their power so the title really is just from them. But again we see that sometimes that the titles make no sense despite the whole zoro dream argument cause just cause he beat the strongest in the world doesn't mean zoro wouldn't get stronger or just say the same way.

[@faith4657]

@@hanma_inu chill saying shit like this only pisses ppl off and make them want to argue more, saying all this isn't also going to change anything until oda says it in the story nothing will change.

[@BobRob.]

Mihawk the only one alive carrying a black blade rn , that’s gotta be something right

[@GladwinAbel]

He’s the greatest swordsman in the world but shanks can be stronger because of his haki we don’t know

[@BobRob.]

@@GladwinAbel why y’all always using the Haki excuse for shanks bruh

[@mightguy3118]

@@BobRob. On god 💀 they act like haki isn't a part of swordsmanship

[@S113Productions]

@@GladwinAbel Nope, he’s the STRONGEST swordsman in the world. Means he’s above every swordsmen alive, that even includes Shanks.

[@Shoddragon]

@@GladwinAbel There's clearly something having to do with Haki that allows the creation of a Black Blade. The fact that only Mihawk (Current WSS) and Ryuuma (The Sword God) have confirmed permanent Black Blades yet Shanks does not definitely makes the "Shanks is a worse swordsman but has better haki" look quite silly.

[@alifputrawan9565]

It doesn't matter what amps Shanks have. If he still relies on swordsmanship and Mihawk's Statement of WSS and more skilled doesn't change, he is still weaker than Mihawk. If shanks is stronger than mihawk, Zoro's dream plotline is kinda unsatisfying tbh.

[@yaboiplank6764]

its entirely worthless and a lie and how tf will zoro react.

[@mstr293]

Actually, it doesn't mater if Shanks is stronger than Mihawk. It's the WG who gave Mihawk that monicker. That's all Zoro needs to know. Not to mention, if Mihawk has a code of not challenging "swordsmen" with one arm, Zoro's most likely gonna end up with the same conclusion. Besides, Shiryu's gonna destroy that dream of his soon enough.

[@okno6440]

Skill wise, Mihawk is much better than Shanks (Confirmed in the manga) not sure for Power/Haki though but it's confirmed how strong Shanks Haki was (Knocked out Vice Admiral Momonga, made Kizaru cover himself and made Greenbull retreat)

[@yellowbeez93]

@@okno6440 When Saitama one punch his opponents, is that... A) his skill or, B) is that his power or, C) His skill that reflects his power?

[@hanma_inu]

@@okno6440 it's actually not Knock out but Knock down, you exaggerating too much.

[@toms6291]

There's something everyone who knows pop culture should be aware of : Haki, just like Cosmos (Saint Seiya), Hamon (Jojo), or the Force (Star Wars), is a carbon copy of Ki energy (Chi in chinese), which is a force that lies in every creature in the universe and can be used by martial artists to become stronger ; in anime and manga, Ki energy (or its equivalents stated earlier) is an excuse used by the author to give martial artists and therefore, swordsmen, super broken abilities. For example : - making one's Ki flow into one's sword to strike better is a skill used by countless swordsmen in anime and manga, and it should remind you of something ; - feeling one's opponent's Ki aura is an ability used by swordsmen to predict his next move and the move coming after that, and it should also remind you of something ; - overwhelming the spirit of one's opponents (or paralyzing them) by releasing one's Ki aura is a way to flex one's power used by many confirmed swordsmen in anime ; it shows that one's opponent is not even worthy of a sword duel, and it should definitely remind you of something. These are just a few examples of what powers Ki energy can provide. In fact, there are characters in manga who have much more impressive Ki related powers, and yet, they're all confirmed swordsmen. Separating skill from (Ha)ki mastery is either the result of a misunderstanding of japanese culture, or an excuse to make your favorite character stronger than another character you don't like as much as the first one. Keep this in mind : mastering Ki energy in every way possible is part of swordsmanship and martial arts in general in japanese culture ; it doesn't make one transcend swordsmanship.

[@daryussamuel4657]

haki helps but they are still two separate entities, otherwise non sword users would not be able to use haki considering they don't train in that art of fighting example bare hands, devil fruit. it also depends on how strongly shanks feel and follows the code of "swordsman" is he more like Rayleigh who have seen fighting with kicks (kizaru) stopping Marco with a finger and the elephant in his demonstration which demonstrates various applications outside of a sword. if shanks fights only with the sword and demonstrates nothing else with haki. then I will give mihawk the complete W. that being said haki is not in its final stages either so we don't know what else can be done with it. we have to wait to see shanks and mihawk fully go all out

[@toms6291]

@@daryussamuel4657 You didn't really read my comment. Just read more martial arts mangas, do some research about Chinese and Japanese culture. I'm telling you that all forms of Haki are techniques that swordsmen use thanks to their Ki energy while fighting another swordsman in manga in general. For example, in Rurouni Kenshin (a manga about swordsmen that Oda illustrated alongside the author), Jinei belongs to a fencing school with an ultimate technique that consists in paralyzing the opponent by projecting one's Ki with a glare before slaying him. Doesn't it remind you of something ? All forms of Haki are Ki abilities that are part of swordsmanship in Japanese folklore. This is why I find these attempts to make Shanks stronger than Mihawk "because he has Conqueror's Haki" pointless. Now, if you don't want to see what I'm seeing, that's fine, but let me warn you : people who use Haki in their KZbin videos to convince you Shanks is stronger than Mihawk are doomed to fail, because Haki, by nature, is part of swordsmanship, that's all. That's japanese culture.

[@eavyeavy2864]

@@toms6291 bruh its called magic. Not everything is a copy because it was invented later

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@daryussamuel4657 you are coping SO HARD RIGHT NOW CHILL

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@eavyeavy2864 you're coping too

[@pandaman1331]

The fact that Mihawk relies more on Swordsskills than Haki makes him the most compelling Swordsman in this show. Like, what are you learning swordsmanship for when you ultimately end up relying on haki to win anyway?

[@beasmith865]

Can’t agree more 💯

[@abdulrisark4782]

Mihawk is literally called hawk eye which is direct correlation to Observation HAKI

[@mstr293]

He could learn both! As both are very effective weapons in the OP World. For all we know. They could be as powerful and are still rivals to his day? Perhaps 65% swordskill and 35% haki for Mihawk vs 40% Swordskill and 60% haki for Shanks? The point being, we don't know YET how big is the gap between Red Hair and Hawk Eye if ever they fought right now? Considering their last fight was more than a decade ago. So we couldn't take the statement from the WG that seriously. Considering the latter also said that Buggy's Red Hair's rival.

[@rkvlegacy9206]

Haki is more in line with the users will. It falls in line with every type of fighter is what many dont understand with haki. Shanks and Mihawk fought equally because they had equal ambition to win. Shanks drove Mihawk and vice versa as even WB heard of their legendary duels that shook the world.

[@pandaman1331]

@@rkvlegacy9206 There is a lot of headcanon in your comment. Like in most comments of one piece fans. Unable to go by what's actually canon.

[@rafe100]

The kaku point is a very good point so Is the monet feat it’s funny cause I swear kaku is stated as a yontoryu user with his legs being his two other blades I always saw the parallels with Roger and whitebeard even just realised the bounty difference between Mihawk and shanks is very similar and the world title that people ignore

[@kuzon2132]

W vidéo. It just crazy people like to deny that Mihawk is stronger

[@yutaoGOATsu236]

there is alot more going in to being a swordsman than just pure swordskill look at pre time skill zoro no doubt he was one of the most skilled swordsman in the world but it wasn't enough he still had lost to learn like the breath of all things to cut mr 1 learning about cursed and supreme grade swords then he learnt haki from mihawk then in wano learned to use conquer haki coating but even with all that he isn't close to mihawk whitch means there are still more steps like making a black bade there is no doubt mihawk has amazing observation haki his name is based on not to mention insane armament and conquer haki use

[@okno6440]

Skills can make up for the lack of Power. For example a sword duel between a Guy with stronger physique but no skill vs A Weaker but Master Swordsman who do you think would win? The one with skills, could parry, dodge or even cut the opponent up through an opening and defeat him. However the other can also do the same, he could overwhelm the other person first before the other guy can use his skills. In the end, both has the ability to win against the other, making them Equals, or in other terms "Rivals"

[@kempoypogi2950]

Yes but mihawk can last longer in battle so he don't want to fight a one arm man

[@mahirsharma7789]

I would say Shanks would have done alot of things after losing his fav arm ​@@kempoypogi2950 I mean he became an emperor with one arm only that's quite tough If has lost his main arm then he needs to completely upgrade his body using Even Kicks ( This sounds funny but How can you be a YONKO with one arm and depending on it only )

[@godslayerreginald]

Question what do you use to edit

[@ebag7455]

that also backs up zoros true goal is to be the "Strongest" and its stated mostly that he wants to be the greatest swordsmen but thats for kuina

[@flaviomadeiramirandafilho3469]

Mihawk glazers cling to dear life to a title and no feats above Shanks. They cling to a vivre card that contradicts itself in the same paragraph and they overlook the major point for Shanks beign stronger that is for him to be a foil to Luffy, while Mihawk is a foil to Zoro. Wich villain or character has Zoro won against that was stronger than Luffy's respective opponent?

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

Observation Haki isn't a skill that only swordsmen use, yet Mihawk used it to locate Luffy. I can imagine Mihawk throwing a knife at Sugar. Would that make him a sniper? I think that if you master Haki, you can do a lot of things not necessarily related to your specialization. Mihawk can do many things, but he is strongest when he is holding a sword, as is Shanks. Because they are both swordsmen. What did Kizaru do when he fought Rayleigh? He made a lightsaber. He didn't think "I have devil fruit so I have an advantage" but "I have devil fruit but I'm fighting a swordsman so I'd better make a sword". For the same reason "Hakiman Shanks", even if he can fight like a wizard, fighting Mihawk would draw his sword because that would be beneficial to him. It would all come down to sword fighting, and who's the best at sword fighting?

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

The mere fact that Mihawk travels alone on the Grand Line on his coffin shows that he is able to fight anyone, not just swordsmen, who are a minority among pirates. He is not afraid of users of devil fruit, snipers, cannons, "Hakimans" etc. Zoro fought with various weirdos and during the fight with Mr. 1 said he wouldn't lose to someone who uses blades and doesn't even call himself a swordsman. Zoro is constantly battling pseudo-swordsmen on his way to defeat Mihawk which means that the strongest pure swordsman should be someone who is able to win against any pseudo-swordsman. If Shanks is only partially a swordsman and is stronger than Mihawk, then Mihawk in his pride should not accept the title he has been given.

[@StruffyTheClown]

Its plain fact. Shanks is a swordsman, mihawk is the strongest swordsman. Everything else is just copium because people like shanks more than they like mihawk.

[@lxfj2128]

Shanks fights by putting some type of red fire conquerors haki around his sword and using the sword to fight. So basically he fights like Roger but he has some type of red conquerors haki thing around his blade. Ik this After watching film red which is non cannon but shanks and Uta backstory , fighting Styles snd the red hair pirates fighting styles are cannon confirmed in the databook and by oda.

[@iReaperYo]

Are we going to see Mihawk go high diff before he fights zoro? Maybe go after an admiral due to the bounties on their heads now to hype him up?

[@fahadmohamed563]

Zage💯💯

[@carldodd5428]

the thing is it never says shanks has more power but it says mihawk says mihawk has greater skill also when does mihawk not have powerful haki also skill is relative to haki so if mihawk has greater skill that is part of haki (haki control). if shanks is a swordsman and mihawk is the strongest then mihawk should be over him. plus he was known as hawk eye or cleovoyant which is related to senses and probably observation he made his blade black which is a top tier haki feat and he obviously the best and strongest swordsman he will have probably the best arnament. plus advanced conquerers haki is needed to be a top tier swordsman like that so mihawk must be stronger

[@Sun-cg6lv]

Kuina’s whole turmoil shuts down the skill vs power argument. Shanks fans are just too obsessed with him being top 1 but Roger wasn’t even even top 1 in his era and it doesn’t hurt Shanks portrayal. If Mihawk was weaker than Shanks then that hurts Mihawk and Zoro portrayal by many times. Even if Mihawk doesn’t have ACOC (which he probably will have) he’d still be stronger than Shanks due to the title.

[@sixpaths66]

Exactly people tend to associate Mihawk and shanks dynamic with zero and luffy thus shanks > mihawk which is fucking retarded. Its never implied that luffy would ever have to fight shanks imo and what makes the most sense is that shanks will die to blackbeard.so in actuality its luffy vs blackbeard at the end of the day.

[@mstr293]

Yeah, the same title given by the same people who thinks Buggy's around Shanks caliber. Not to mention, the same people who can't decide who's the most powerful between the strongest man, swordsman, or creature? These titles, they're just hype until proven otherwise with feats or whoever the title-holder defeats? They can be a testament to how powerful they are compared to people below Yonko Commanders, but for those with similar titles. Two from the Yonko, you're left with more questions than answers? Not saying that Mihawk could be stronger than Shanks, but my point being we need more empirical proof to shut down this case.

[@Sun-cg6lv]

@@mstr293 The title is not just hype you are ignoring narrative context, Why would Oda the author put that there? Why would he bring up Shanks when he can bring up Zoro or Vista? You have to look at authors intent. Also I don’t want to hear about sources when Vivre Card,SBS,The narrator have called Mihawk the strongest swordsman this isn’t something that the marines just crafted or it’s just reputation this a fact of the series. WB is the strongest pirate, Kaido is the strongest creature (creature as in Zoans or animals) Kaido’s title was literally stated as “They say….” Mihawk is “In name and in actuality”. This is the most important point btw, If Mihawk wasn’t the WSS then Zoro is chasing a fraud everything he’s working for and will earn will be for not because if Shanks is the strongest. Will Oda just have Zoro greatest moment of triumph be a lie? No, he won’t or at least I hope he won’t. Don’t attack the title the best argument for Shanks is the “not a swordsman” and even that has holes in it.

[@Sun-cg6lv]

@@mstr293 but I get it you need to see a top tier display from Hawkeye and I hope we get one as well.

[@S113Productions]

@@Sun-cg6lv It’s crazy how people think Shanks isn’t a swordsman when Oda himself considers Shanks a swordsman in SBS 101.

[@Packirup1234]

Funny how shanks fans still won't let up Vs battles have always been very funny Even if the author himself said it the fans will still not agree and call him stupid Eg dragon ball Naruto one piece and fairytail fans

[@faith4657]

it needs to be said in story no amount shit said outside will change them unless we are shown in story otherwise people will come out with more crazy shit.

[@cassiusfelix2805]

There is a difference between fighting with a sword and being a swordsmen. There is a way of live to being a swordsmen and that's what Mihawk and Zoro live by. Maybe Shanks lived like that at one point but after giving up his arm he stop living the swordsmen way of live and focus more on haki.

[@thegoat2296]

Am going to be generous and say that they are equal but going by the narrative...it's looking like mihawk is stronger lowkey lol

[@Popomanlol]

This is really cool and could mean that Mi hawk is the strongest pirate right now. My top few pirates include shanks, black beard and mi hawk

[@cursedbumblebee3731]

Seeing how blackbeard vs law is going mihawk is definitely the strongest pirate rn. No doubt blackbeard will surpass him though

[@S113Productions]

Either Luffy or Mihawk is the strongest pirate. Blackbeard will make his way to being the strongest soon.

[@hanma_inu]

Haki is just a common feat to a Swordsman to defeat those so called DF users.

[@shem2k]

Finallyy you gained a sub I'm tired of correcting people that just don't want to admit to the truth

[@SirDave]

Haven't finished the whole video, but I just want to say on the topic alone, I think people just generalize that Shanks better haki overall, but it could just be that he specializes in conquerors haki and he's better at that than Mihawk, but Mihawk even though it's been touted that he has better swordsman skills, he could be a better armament haki user. Mihawk could be a better advanced armament than haki user than Shanks.

[@D.Strawhat]

his specialty is observation, that was revealed

[@zagessj]

If Shanks’ Haki was stronger he’d be stronger

[@csdahzi6793]

I think Oda’s intentionally compared fist vs sword stated first with Zoro vs Luffy to make the reader wonder what actually is a swordsman and what is a sword? What’s the difference between a swordsman and a fighter? Isn’t a swordsman just someone that fights *with* a sword? In japanese “ken” can mean fist or sword. Obviously a sword has an inherent advantage over a fist but haki’s been shown to be the ultimate equaliser. If Kaido used a bladed weapon instead of a club, would that necessarily make him any stronger or threatening? Yes obviously, it’d make the thunder bagua a lethal attack and luffy would’ve died before G5. Roger, Whitebeard, Big Mom and Shanks all use swords because it offers a natural advantage, but as Kaido said in the end haki is everything. If two people with equal levels of haki and physical training meet and one is barehanded whilst the other is using a sword, is the swordsman likely to win? If the battle goes on completely evenly until their haki and stamina is spent, the one with the sword will have an advantage, they can cause damage to the opponent simply by defending with the bladed edge. At a natural disadvantage, the only way the barehanded person can win in this situation is if they have superior *skill*. Quoting Shimotsuki Kozuburo, a sword is meant “to cause terrible harm.” Swords are born out of “the intent to cause harm.” In this sense, what is the difference between a sword and a fist? A fist is formed with the intent to cause harm, this is an explanation to the dual meaning of “ken.” So you have a sword, born out of the intent to cause harm, that is its purpose and sole desire, and the more “powerful” swords like the kitestsu series and enma are called cursed as they *thirst* for blood (or in enma’s case it thirsts for haki). A true swordsman like zoro seeks to perfect their craft and achieve the pinnacle of swordsmanship, whatever that may be. What does that mean? They desire strength and greater skill, they want to win and are willing to do so by any means necessary, Zoro even stating he’d be willing to bite King to death and using “no sword style” to create dragon twisters. So it’s not like his bushido code forbids him from fighting without a physical sword, but if that’s the case what’s the point, what exactly is this swordsman’s code that Mihawk mentioned and the honourable sword path that they follow? It’s the “way of the warrior.” They wish to become more skilled in causing harm, and keep the sword because it will almost always offer an advantage. Rayleigh was a swordsman but only used his finger to stop Marco. A “sword” is just a placeholder for the weapon you’ve chosen to cause harm, whether it be a club, hat sword, naginata or fist. What matters most is that you win, but you also want to win with the “style” of fighting that you’ve chosen. Oda has made it clear that Yoru is the zenith of swords, and Mihawk’s skill is the zenith of sword play. To date no one has displayed effortless and subtle power like he has. He mentioned a sword without subtlety is but an iron bar. Oda is trying to get the reader to wonder about what does the perfect sword actually look like, and the perfect swordsman? It’s a sword that’s capable of wielding itself. Mihawk might be Yoru, a sword that “ate” a devil fruit such as the mythical zoan hito hito no mi: model dracula. The only hint of this is the image of him as a child holding a sword. The sword has the same wrapping and pommel as Yoru. If it’s true it’d make Mihawk literally a bloodthirsty sword. The biggest clue is his title WSS. If a swordsman is just a fighter, and the term “sword” can just mean weapon, Mihawk was declared the world’s strongest *fighter*

[@agentd.0096]

If only KOL could watch this video 😅😅😅😅😅

[@struggler2252]

We need a how strong is Ace

[@LieutenantBoreyko]

Regarding the "more powerful Haki", there is one thing I wonder about. Random Marines at Dressrossa Arc had a CoA. Would a random marine have beaten East Blue Zoro? If "more haki" = win then Zoro should lose. Kaido said Haki "conquers all". Was he talking about it in the context of a 1v1 fight or in the context of becoming the pirate king? Who had the stronger CoC: Kaido or Luffy? Kaido said these words and a moment later he transformed into a fiery dragon. Luffy showed CoC at Marineford, but he was only a pawn against opponents who did not use CoC. Now, if Shanks has a more powerful CoC than Mihawk, it doesn't change much if Mihawk just fights better with the sword. Apart from the fact that CoC is only one of the three types of Haki. Shanks' CoC could mean his overall ambition, that is, finding the One Piece. Mihawk is not interested in this, so Shanks doesn't have to beat him to achieve his goal. Shanks showed the CoC and in the same chapter declared that he wanted to get One Piece. He didn't say "now I have to beat Mihawk". And that's why Roger was the pirate king and Whitebeard was the strongest pirate. Kaido was the "strongest creature" and I interpret it as "the strongest non-human being". In other words: the strongest beast. This does not mean that he was stronger than the strongest man. If WB wasn't literally the strongest pirate then this title means nothing and Marineford loses its meaning to me.

[@6ha9an]

Bro just said bunch of nothing

[@6ha9an]

More haki? What are you even saying 😭

[@apollyon2018]

If Luffy knew how to actually cut something he could run for the title, he got everything else just fine enough for the run

[@daryussamuel4657]

@zage you asked where is the basis that seperate skill and strength/power. lol you yourself actually used in the last video about this topic a snippet of mihawk speaking about Luffy in 561. it literally states "it's not his power or technique" and in another translation it says "it's not skill or his power". shanks is a pirate just as much as he is a swordsman with his own dreams and aspirations. it is very likely based on the statement that mihawk was actively searching for worthy opponents that it was Mihawk who found shanks and saw him as worthy in which after they would have inconclusive duels. these duels stopped after he lost his arm. 1.we need to understand the context behind why they don't duel. 2.how a black blade is really formed 3.when and how mihawk actually got this title. I don't know why people thing haki can't be separated from swordsmanship when haki can literally be applied to any form of fighting.

[@zagessj]

Good point but in the context I mentioned this specifically is about sword skill/swordsmanship but I used moments in which skill in general has been used to mean strength. I am aware of other ways “skill” has been used for example in the Vivre Card there is a section explaining some moves/attacks of Luffy/Zoro/Sanji/Law and they are called skills. However when I mentioned it and the point of this video was when has it ever meant that better swordsmanship doesn’t make you the stronger swordsman. Hopefully that clears it up.

[@daryussamuel4657]

@@zagessj yeah bro you make really good videos. We need to see all of what shanks can do. If all he does is wield a sword with no exceptions with no other applications of haki outside of the sword then mihawk is more than likely stronger. I still think their different stats in haki make them equal though. As well as the fact that shanks sword skill at this point is only inferior to that of mihawk is still a plus. A black blade permanently clad in armament haki means he uses high level armament haki in every swing. People say he wasn't going all out at marine ford but he literally says "I'm sorry red hair but my blade knows no restraint" then proceeds to cut a giant ice berg in half. They say he hasn't used name attacks. But neither has white beard for the entirety of the war and he is currently in the grave. So the no name techniques doesn't really mean any thing. Still think there is more to haki than what we know rn. Mihawk may have CoC but is it at shanks' level? You would think if he had it, there would be some kind of little demonstration. Coa haki = mihawk (10) shanks (9) CoO haki = mihawk (10) shanks (9) I believe there is another aspect of observation outside of future sight that mihawk possesses. Future sight is only held by top tier so it's safe to say shanks future killing works on any opponent. CoC shanks (10) mihawk ? (7) if he has it.should be at least respectable with it. And actually sword skill mihawk(10) and shanks is (8). Nigga only has one arm lol no way he is more skilled You are power scaler so I know you will understand what I am trying to say.

[@zagessj]

Another thing about your Mihawk point is that in different translations it’s translated as “skill or technique” and “power or technique” so it still lines up with my reasoning of skill can also mean strength.

[@daryussamuel4657]

​@@zagessj swordsmanship is still it's own thing otherwise there wouldn't be individual sword style nitorioyu,flowersword style,santoryu etc. haki is used to augment attacks yes but it's own power system with its own level of powers. otherwise the strongest swordsman equals the person with the strongest haki which is clearly not the case. we have not seen the true extent of haki so we don't know what is to come. shanks conquerors haki is superior to mihawks if he has it the portrail of Shanks CoC is there to prove it. we have seen just how important advanced CoC is in regards to power potency. it isn't a stretch to say that shanks superior acoc and high level armament haki can combat Mihawks black blade making as the story implies as rivals

[@daryussamuel4657]

​@@zagessj shanks is clearly depicted alongside the greatest of all time and that's a fact the last time they fought was as equal so I believe oda will hold through to this otherwise when zoro surpasses mihawk it will be indeed meaningless if he doesn't become stronger than shanks as well

[@vinsmokesanji9251]

So WhiteBeard was more skilled than Roger? More skilled than Garp? Is Dragons bounty more skilled than Kaido? You make no sense this is a massive W for King of Lightning. This proves there are True swordsman, Pure swordsman, Swordsman, Sword user and Sword fighter.

[@saeednaser3133]

What's wrong with this guy !!!!?????

[@saeednaser3133]

Do you have a medicine you should take ??!!

[@saeednaser3133]

Dude your common sense is that of a five year old

[@permanentlybored195]

@@omarahmed1139 whitebeard title was the strongest man so by the reasoning in this video he is stronger than roger garp shiki and everyone else.

[@vinsmokesanji9251]

@@saeednaser3133 whats wrong with you?!?! Who let you out of rehab?!?!?

[@Rujewitblood]

Next chapter "To think that Buggy managed to recruit the man even stronger than the Red Hair .." Shanks fans: Shanks only has one arm, so of course he can't lift as much, but Haki, so in a fight he would still win

[@marcomarin1196]

this is quite annoying because the chapter didn't tell us anything new so how did this become confirmation for anyone

[@gerardocovarrubias3058]

And do you think monkey D dragon was part of cp0 and the Marines because if he was then that's what makes him the world's worst heinous criminal maybe he's a master of RokuShiki and can use the 7th power far better than Rob Lucci

[@zagessj]

It’s possible but I don’t have a strong opinion on the subject

[@gerardocovarrubias3058]

@@zagessj you can check and see if it's possible

[@Pickle6432]

Regarding Shanks vs Hawk-Eye in a hypothetical battle as they both are currently. Well if where gonna put power against skill. Just look at it from this perspective. In Dark Souls the bosses are all way stronger than you and can kill you in a single hit, but you're still then one who eventually beats them all and finishes the game. In an actual fight greater skill is always more important than raw strength. If greater physical strength was all that was needed to beat Mihawk then ig that means Jack beats him lol

[@okashira073]

haki is considered skill but oda played a trick with the whole statement of "mihawk is even more skillful than red haired" he used the word skill because if he said haki then shankstards would get a heartattack and kill the hype for A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOT monkeys so they would need to jump into the next bandwagon but remember shanks is MONEY and there is benefit so people have this false image of shanks being the top in the verse yet its all just hype and personal preference because honestly its not like people like shanks... its more like they expecting him to be something that he is not... its like the flampe/katakuri relantionship... once reality hits the door and the doomed open it ITS OVER and the worst thing is they still wouldnt accept it and they still wouldnt admit it... i used to think shanks was the be all end all pirate king level and strongest in the verse not too long ago... so i speak from both perspectives and i admit i was wrong... all evidence/portrayal points mihawk to be the superior not just swordsman but individual overall... yet everything about shankstards is personal desire, beneficial agenda, ego maniac perspective, bothered with reality type of dudes that deny EVEN THE NARRATOR'S indirect confirmation (because if he went and said it directly the hype would be MASSIVELY reduced) that mihawk>shanks... it just kills their idea making it extremely unsatisfying.... but im not oda so i aint kissing ears i say it like it is

[@oliviermateso]

Who's who is actually the skilled one? The queen was just mad strong, then him even an idiot could see that.

[@natedogmarik2554]

In one piece, swords are classified by ranks. Now some of you are like what does this have to do with anything related to shanks vs mihawk. Ah well you see, there are 13 of the strongest swords in the world(saijo o wazamono). Now, anyone in possession of one of these swords can be classified as a “swordsman.” This means mihawk is stronger than anyone in possession of these swords. One prominent character in one piece with these swords is whitebeard. This means, whitebeard is weaker than mihawk cause mihawk is the worlds strongest swordsman correct? NOOOOOOO. Whitebeard in his prime is bodying mihawk with mid diff. And now people are going to say “oh he has a devil fruit.” Ok? Since when does having a devil fruit immediately make you better than someone? Heck Kaido has confirmed that haki is the key to strength. And after film red it’s pretty clear shanks is probably up there with the strongest haki users EVER in one piece. I’m willing to bet mihawks haki isn’t on shanks level and that’s ok if he’s not. Shanks has never been stated to be a swordsman like whitebeard, he just uses a sword for battle. He clearly dumped all his level up points in haki and thats not what makes someone a swordsman. That’s a completely separate skill. We can debate all day, but if it were a fight to the death the outcome can go either way for the two RIVALS

[@S113Productions]

They’re the supreme grade blades. Whitebeard’s weapon isn’t a sword, it’s confirmed to be a naginata blade. Whitebeard wasn’t a swordsman either, so this logic doesn’t apply. Oda considers Shanks a swordsman in the vivre cards, databooks, and SBS 101. Your entire statement is debunked.

[@kempoypogi2950]

Mihawk don't want to fight a one arm you know now

[@daryussamuel4657]

@zage 1.it literally stated in said promotional statement you used that he was able to fight the world's strongest swordsman equally lol. 2.the only reason the used "was" is that's at least 12 years ago in the past tense. 3.zoro literally used his sword in his feat against Monet. shanks was no where in the vicinity of greenbull nor was his sword drawn when struck he with CoC that is strictly from an application stand point. 4. in the manga oda chose to highlight his haki mastery more than his swordmanship. he has literally demonstrated haki more times than he clashed so far in the series against whitebeard which also was a haki feat might I add. and against akainu. all else was haki related. it's clear he is a master swordsman but I never thought his sword skill surpassed mihawk. but this far the story has payed special emphasis on his haki and that can't be coincidence. just have to wait and see what else he and mihawk can do I always thought the were equal

[@zagessj]

1. You debunked your first point with your second. Shanks once being equal in the past and now Mihawk is the strongest swordsman suggests he’s weaker. Film Red isn’t even canon but this is just a steel man argument for those who want to use it. 2. Zoro’s drawn sword against Monet was never emphasised as the reason why he paralysed her. The panels of that moment emphasise Zoro glaring at Monet. If Zoro’s drawn sword means he used his spirit in this way then Shanks having his hand on his sword can suggest the same thing. 3. “Oda chose to highlight his Haki mastery more than his swordsmanship” This is suggesting that the two are mutually exclusive. Shanks clashing with WB and splitting the sky and blocking Akainu are feats of his swordsmanship.

[@daryussamuel4657]

@@zagessj 1.i did not, firstly mihawk was world renowned before the great pirate era even started so we have no idea when he received this title or if he already had it already in their duels. 2. Just because shanks is a swordsman does not mean that his goal is to become the world's strongest swordsman.As a pirate shanks has his own morals, ideas and plans for the future. The title has been sought after by mihawk from the time he was a boy and the same as been for zoro. 3. Vista in his clash with mihawk states "every swordsman instinctly wants to test their blade against Mihawk"so shanks as a swordsman it's natural to have a duel/duels with mihawk.however people say this like shanks was actively chasing this title like he was obsessed, they both clearly have different motives. In the grand scale. 4.again oda/his publication teams literally states that shanks fought against the world's strongest swordsman equally. 5.they have not fought for 12 years and during this time we know regardless mihawk would of still been actively chasing this title if he did not have it already, while shanks was busy making his own dreams a reality in this time. 6.haki can be applied to swordsmanship yes, but it can be applied to any weapon/devilfruit and has been used in as well and the potency of this haki differs from character to character. 7. I gave examples of other application uses for both Rayleigh and shanks. Future sight killing and being able to casually attack someone from miles away with just your haki has only just been revealed and these are applications outside the realm of swords is all I am saying. Why do people deny this lol. He is currently the only man with these abilities ATM. The fact that he has not fought seriously at all, should allow us to know more is coming in terms of what he can do with his haki.

[@danchiziofficial2159]

@@daryussamuel4657 wrong

[@daryussamuel4657]

@@danchiziofficial2159 how?

[@Trickyblade750]

I'm finally on the Mihwak train. The issue I've though is why did Zoro say that king is not a swordsman? When king started using other lethal moves? This debate is already set. Mihwak is the strongest according to all info. Until Oda says something else, that's that.

[@moussadotco]

We can always find ways to play with words. Luffy has zero swords skills but is stronger the zoro for example. At the end of the day mihawk and shank are two character that are comparable and are meant to be reference point for luffy and zoro to surpass. I don't think we will ever get a clear cut answer to who is the strongest between mihawk and shank although i will say that narratively it will make more sense that the guy who lufy is suppose to surpass is stronger.

[@zagessj]

No one ever said the best/greatest sword skill = strongest of all fighters. This terminology (sword skill) is only in context to swordsman so your Luffy and Zoro analogy makes no sense. However the general terms “skill” and “strength” have been used interchangeably. Luffy surpassing Shanks as an objective has no impact on how Shanks compares to Mihawk because Luffy’s goal (Pirate King) is greater than both of them.

[@moussadotco]

@@zagessj Let"s take an mma example cyril gane is more skilled fighter than francis ngannou but francis still beat him. We can always do mental gymnastic to justify any agenda. Well you are right luffy's goal is greater than both of them but it terms of people that inspired them to me , is more fitting that the guy that inspired luffy is the greater one. But that is not an argument I can admit. It just sounds right to me.

[@danyal6181]

Your argument makes no sense because luffy is not a swordsman. Whereas zoro is. You are comparing a non swordsman to a swordsman. Whereas the mihawk and shanks debate is between 2 swordsman

[@daryussamuel4657]

​​@@zagessj if you look up skill it's not synonymous with strength. it's synonymous with expertise,profiency, efficiency and aptitude. greater sword skill doesn't mean stronger. Rayleigh is good example cause he is swordsman who was introduced without his sword and his applications of haki have also been shown outside of a sword. he demonstrated advanced ryou on the mermaid's collar. and against the elephant when used emission from out of his palm,and against Marco with his finger. shanks has also demonstrated haki from literally across the ocean and this has also never been done before in the series along with being able to cancel future. all of these are application outside of swords so what makes people think there isn't going to be more instances of this when he actually fights and display all of his techniques?

[@zagessj]

@@moussadotco your MMA example is an appeal to reality because we’ve already seen how Oda chooses to use “Skill” and “Strength” interchangeably in context to his fictional story.

[@gerardocovarrubias3058]

I for one hoped shanks would get the title of the world's greatest swordsman also for being a Yonko and do you believe Shanks will get a new left arm made entirely out of haki because if that happens that would be so Op

[@yutaoGOATsu236]

Shanks and mihawks was rivals they only stopped being rivals after shank lost his arm and shanks definitely didn't become stronger after he lost his arm so mihawk was definitely stronger at that time and he would only get stronger since then of course shanks became a younko but being a younko isnt about personal strength but also his crew and influence so i think ever since shanks lost his arm mihawk is stronger

[@itsactuallytony5699]

No he definitely got stronger because by your logic he technically got weaker by losing an arm 💀

[@thedarkone8313]

@@itsactuallytony5699 losing your dominant hand would make you weaker

[@ilikechicken5524]

​@@itsactuallytony5699 It's heavily implied that he did get weaker. For example, it says he was ONCE as powerful as Mihawk

[@mkaybreezy1680]

@@ilikechicken5524oda also said shanks never got weaker😂

[@ilikechicken5524]

@@mkaybreezy1680 Then that means he didn't get weaker, but still isn't as strong as Mihawk.. Yikes 😬😬

[@henrykasenburg1115]

Yasopp/Bennie is still a bad analogy because Yasopp was never stated to be the strongest gunman/sniper. In fact he wasn’t even stated to the best/greatest/most skillful marksman let alone the strongest. So nah the analogy does not work here

[@zagessj]

I never made this analogy

[@henrykasenburg1115]

@@zagessj lmaooooo I commented on the wrong video my bad zage

[@dankmudkip7395]

You sound cool

[@averageyoutubeenjoyer8845]

Mihawk is still difficult to power scale. He hasn't even shown his full power/potential. Also, he has to have a powerful haki: 1) How do you think he was able to turn yoru into a permanent black blade if he has weak/average haki 2) It is confirmed that one must have powerful haki in order to be a skilled swordsman. Nonetheless, Mihawk hasn't shown any of his haki, so we can't say how his haki goes up against Shanks'. I do believe that Mihawk and Shanks fought all out during their duels. Theory: Anti-climactic plot twist: -What if all of their duels are draw and the only reason why Mihawk became the world's Strongest Swordsman is because he was able to turn Yoru a permanent black blade as a result of/ or during their duels, and since Shanks (who during that time was his rival) wasn't able to turn Griffon a permanent black blade which eventually makes it a deciding factor to the Title of World's Strongest Swordsman.

[@okno6440]

I mean yeah we don't even know if he has Conqueror's Haki or not and since covering a sword with Conqueror's Haki is now a thing, we don't know if he could defeat Shanks without Conqueror's considering how powerful Shanks Conqueror's Haki was in the movie.

[@jordymagema1660]

Based on what we have seen in the Manga, haki is important in everything, whether swormanship, df or martial arts. There's no way mihawk could duel with shanks if he didn't have conqueror coating. Even if his specialty is armament (very likely) he would still need adv coc to clash equally with shanks. I think the interesting question would be whether mihawk already had the title when he was clashing with shanks or not, and how did he achieved that title?

[@hanma_inu]

@@jordymagema1660 he achieved that title by beating Shanks, because Shanks was a formidable Swordsman back then.

[@jordymagema1660]

@@hanma_inu Was that confirmed in the Manga, or any other official source cause I can't remember

[@faith4657]

dude we don't even know if haki is connected to blackening your blade that has never been stated by oda dude.

[@Shubham-hr5uw]

a clear difference between skill and power. zoro with sword uses Acoc - zoro without cant manifest Acoc like luffy. mihawk with sword is >>>>>> shanks with sword . but shanks without sword can use his Acoc and punch kaido like luffy did.

[@whatthatbout4629]

Bro do u not hear yourself

[@lxfj2128]

😭🤣🤣

[@alexharris991]

I get what your tryna do saying if shanks stunned Greenbull with Haki and Zoro stunned Monee with Haki but cmon stunning an Admiral is a different ballpark display of strength true feats of a Hakiman

[@istheyear-ry1el]

Im a Mihawk fan dont get me wrong but one thing struck me is that Gol D Roger was confirmed to be a swordsman does that mean Mihawk is stronger than Roger? If we follow this narratives, small details, SBS, Oda's interview and words then it means Mihawk is stronger than whoever use Sword or blade as main weapon and that makes him strong as fuck though like above majority of the characters in OP including Roger. Roger fighting style is kinda the same with Shanks they use sword as their main weapon plus haki. I can agree with Mihawk being stronger than Shanks but with Roger? I doubt it and Roger is a swordsman. Therefore there is a a different between WSS title and characters who use swords as their weapon. Mihawk is WSS and he has no interest in becoming an Emperor and finding the One Piece. The same goes with Shanks he is an Emperor and has no interest to become a World Strongest Swordsman and we all know both are capable of doing it. Whitebeard is the WSM but he has no interest in getting the One Piece and Roger was the one who was interested to get it so he became King of Pirates. But does that mean Whitebeard is stronger than Roger or Roger is stronger than WB? IT IS STILL UNKNOWN AND VAGUE So to conclude it is still very much vague unless we get a literal confirmation in the future that who is stronger between these 2. Im a Mihawk fan and he is my fav character in OP but that Roger arguement can't be denied. Roger uses sword as his weapon and haki and he is a swordsman but I don't think Mihawk can defeat prime Roger. You could say that Roger was the strongest swordsman before Mihawk but Mihawk were already famous at the time of Roger's execution. This can be what Shanks is right now. Swordsman is the literal title for a fighter and that can makes Mihawk strength goes a long way to the top as he is WSS but that would make all characters that use swords as their weapon are below him and only very few people who does not use sword can be stronger than him like Kaido, Imu, Dragon, Akainu etc

[@zagessj]

Mihawk isn’t stated to be the strongest swordsman of all time only in the current world so Roger doesn’t fall under Mihawk’s title

[@istheyear-ry1el]

@@zagessj So then who was the strongest before Mihawk? nobody knows yet but Roger a strong character who wields a sword as his weapon plus Haki. Could it be him? If it wasnt him could it be Rayleigh? but if it was Rayleigh does that mean he was stronger than his captain Roger who also used sword? or Roger wasnt interested in that title

[@CoolAsianGuy]

@@istheyear-ry1el Stop overthinking you w3lrd0

[@bander-Coolb]

I don’t agree law is a swordsman Like if he beat mihawk he won’t be wss cuz he heavily depends on his fruit can he even cut stuff without the fruit I don’t know

[@zagessj]

It is stated

[@whatthatbout4629]

Odd himself called law a swordsman bro

[@netero1682]

One way to understand it is to see Big mom and Kaido, Big mom proved to be very powerful, she can use the advanced king's hai, and use the Homies as weapons, but what about her fighting ability? How does she perform when fighting if we compare her with Kaido? there Bigg mom is not that strong, she has never shown great ability when fighting, based on the idea of ​​the status she possesses, she cannot be compared even close to Kaido, Kaido did not include her on his list for a reason, she wasn't even able to show that she could coat Napoleon with Haki. Still, she's an incredibly powerful character. The series has related power and ability but focused on something in common or qualities in common. In the case of the best swordsman, it is not only with the technique when using the sword, how he attacks and defends himself, he also adds speed, strength and cutting power. Mihawk is considered to have the most powerful thrust of all, meaning the strongest swordsman has the strongest cutting power. Why? because a sword must be able to cut its enemy. But for that he must improve in other aspects to strengthen himself and that includes how he uses the sword. There is a set of various factors, not just one. In the case of Shanks, Mihaw surpasses him in relation to the art of the sword, but let's compare Mihaw with Shirohige or Kaido? Shirohige had a Naginata, a sword in the One Piece world, and even so, Shirohige outclassed Mihawk. Kaido has his Kanabo, and is considered the strongest pirate or character alive after Shirohige. Kaido is not only a character with great destructive power, but also a skilled melee fighter. Even so, he is considered stronger than Mihawk, therefore Shans could still be more powerful than Mihawk. We still have to see Shans and Oda will get us out of doubt.

[@whiteshark3003]

Mihawk fans: here are the facts stated by oda himself why he is stronger than shanks : mihawk is the worlds strongest swordsman, black blade...etc etc Shanks fans arguments : cap copium mrmrmr shanks god king mihawktards .. Whitebeard the strongest man Shanks fans; BUT HIS HAKI IS STRONGER... My guys..haki is always used together either with weapons or body parts..shanks uses it together with a sword same as mihawk so mihawk > shanks easily

[@mightguy3118]

B-But ShAnKs isn't a swordman HES HAKI MAN 😡😡

[@avalac7412]

@@mightguy3118 🤣 the shanks fans got me dead with their dick riding, dude's only good feat is clahsing with old whitebeard and using a haki blast to confince greenbull to retreat.

[@faith4657]

bro with the title anything can mean anything and no amount of you guys saying these things will change their minds it will only piss them off, so until the story says so itself or shanks or mihawk confirms it nothing will change.

[@godspeed6980]

This is fax But isn't shanks referenced to be the weakest yonko in the ace novels and shanks was equal to mihawk before this so wouldn't mihawk be weaker than every yonko?

[@zagessj]

Whitebeard implies he is but I don’t consider it canon because it was said in an interview that it’s a story parallel to One Piece.

[@godspeed6980]

@@zagessj fair I guess btw what are your thoughts on kid/law vs king?

[@Khaled68335]

@@godspeed6980 Kid and law should beat king at this point

[@Paopao621]

They are most likely equal, mihawk already had the title as the strongest swordsman before he dueled shanks, it's always a draw so the title stays with mihawk

[@bander-Coolb]

You tell them bruh

[@johnhowell1626]

Well I think shanks stop becoming a swordsman when he lost his sword arm, mihawk was the strongest swordsman before shanks before the start of the great era. Mihawk stated he didn’t want to fight shanks anymore after losing his arm, mihawk also walked away at marineford. I mean WB uses a sword but is known as the strongest man and yonko we would put him above mihawk still. I believe shanks haki is above all others, I think we need more understanding into what a true swordsman is which we probably won’t get until zoro vs mihawk

[@mightguy3118]

That is pure headcanon and bias.There is nothing implying shanks isn't a swordman and what does he fight with 24/7? A SWORD.oda even identified him as a swordman

[@ilikechicken5524]

Oda identifies him as a swordsman. so automatically... no. And you just said Mihawk was stronger than Roger, a swordsman 😂

[@theman5893]

didnt kaido say his equal is shanks so if mihawk is stronger then shanks then...

[@apollyon2018]

You first need to say that Shanks would evenly match Kaido, and then say that Mihawk is considerably stronger than Shanks

[@theman5893]

@@apollyon2018 yes...

[@apollyon2018]

@@theman5893 incompatible agendas, now I must destroy your very being

[@alexharris991]

Just because SHANKS is stronger than Mihawk it doesn’t make him a fraud. I hope y’all Mihawk meat riders can understand that just because he’s the second strongest swordsman and not the strongest he’s not a fraud.

[@Gyabiflex]

Wait a minute if mihawk is stronger than shanks does that mean that zoro has to be stronger than shanks to beat mihawk?

[@whatthatbout4629]

Yes

[@zagessj]

Yup

[@Alex-pm9ph]

Yeah that’s what mihawk is looking for it says in his VC

[@CoolAsianGuy]

I mean luffy and zoro definitely will be the 2 strongest chars in the near future

[@doffyitachi6321]

Shanks The Strongest Haki. Mihawk The Strongest Swordsman.

[@abbamalami9171]

All well and good but one character completely destroys your argument, Vista is said to rival mihawk in skill in the vivre card, so by your logic vista should also be as powerful as shanks and mihawk😂😂

[@slimmy478-6]

Shanks has "All of the feats" Mihawk doesn't have crap

[@mightguy3118]

Shanks is purposely Savin mihawk

[@itachi_1724]

I always look at this with the same settings with anything actually Put mihawk and shanks with equal lvls of Haki same godlike conquers armament and observation haki The one one wins has better skill I hate the argument of "kaido beats mihawk easily cuz he ain't a swordsman" No Why is that a fact?? I can say the same thing "Because Kaido isn't a swordan his chance of wining is nothing" This is a statement i believe because There is backing to it Kaido the war hungry power dominat strong eats weak creature got stopped by a one armed swordsman On his way to a war Of they faught its bad for kaido If they didn't fight its worse for kaido He is so bitchmade that he couldn't do shit to shanks Or He is so bitchmade he refused to fight shanks And i hate the notion shanks is a peace keeper No he is a peace maker He forces peace because the alternative is death Kaido knew this There was no "shanks pleaded with kaido to return to wano and offer him information about stuff" Shanks offered kaido the same deal he did with midd The only difference is Kaido is smart enough to not fuck with shanks We know kaido was war hungry he brought his men and king with him Yet didn't do shit to shanks Cuz he stand no real chance And the same is for mihawk Shanks and mihawk have a weird history The vivre cards explain it well Shanks looked for mihawk and never once won Making a name for shanks because of his duels with mihawk What this means is mihawk saw how great shanks potential was Potential that was blocked when he lost his arm we To this day Mihawk has never seen someone close to shanks And even if there was someone He wants an opponent stronger Going back to the setting i think about If everything is equal Haki strength body Skill is the defining factor I believed shanks can send a single slash and cut a path through the red line using 20% of 100% of his max abilities Of that 20% 19% is raw haki(power) and 1% skill Mihawk can send a single slash and nothing happened 5 seconds later 1000 cuts appears turning the red line into mist and into nothing using 20% of his max abilities 19% skill 1% haki Preserving his haki And not only matching the feat but surpassing the feat shanks did by a 1000 Both sent 1 slash Shanks slash powered through Mihawks slash decimated the mountain into dust I would not be surprised if shanks killer of observation title actual means he literally cuts the ability to use observation haki from his enemies Mihawk can match and overcome that probably by cuting the cut from shanks Imagine shanks is going crazy with his sword using haki and hsi swordmanship (his fire in film red) and mihawk is literally cuting his attacks to nothing This would show just how much the difference is between them Shanks swordskill is top tier becuase when mihawk got his bounty They said "he has even greater swordskill than shanks" That buffs both of them up Swordmanship is a very grounded thing in other stories I have read many manwha and manga with swordsmanship and its crazy There is so many lvls of swordsmanship and mihawk is always interested in that first he just used swordsmanship with zoro and he onoy used swordsman ship with vista A good video is by this guy m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWaqqqyVgrSqbLc&pp=ygUeTWloYXdrcyBwb3RlbnRpYWwgaXMgYm91bmRsZXNz

[@ItZChamseejjj]

So Mihawk > Shanks is a thing now?

[@lxfj2128]

It’s not an opinion it’s a fact

[@whatthatbout4629]

Bro it’s always been a thing wtf 😭😭😭 since mihawk was introduced as the strongest swordsman he’s been stronger than shanks idk how this is such a hard thing to understand

[@GladwinAbel]

@@whatthatbout4629 fam he’s the best swordsman in history not the strongest haki user of all time calm your ass down someone with overwhelming haki like prime whitebeard can clap him easily

[@S113Productions]

@@GladwinAbel He’s the strongest swordsman currently, not of all time. Roger was a swordsman and he was stronger than Mihawk. Mihawk still stronger than Shanks, lol.

[@CoolAsianGuy]

@@GladwinAbel ldiot Iogic

[@itsactuallytony5699]

So in the end game Zoro is gonna be stronger than luffy since “Mihawk is stronger than shanks”, is that what you ppl are actually saying💀 do you hear yourselves 💀 like I’m just saying it naturally makes no since, the main character has to BBS stronger than the side characters goal than his own🤡

[@lax4352]

I think people believe Blackbeard will be Luffy's final opponent, not Shanks. Therefore Mihawk can be stronger than Shanks without Zoro being stronger than Luffy.

[@whatthatbout4629]

Bro shanks isn’t luffys end goal like where did this dumbass narrative come from

[@Alex-pm9ph]

Why are you limiting Luffy. He will be stronger than shanks too

[@malcommarx9129]

Honestly I think that Shanks bridged the gap created by his lost arm by learning the martial arts of Cipher Pol. S o now he has three swords. Mihawk is still somewhat stronger though. Shanks will be Zoro's official Emperor to defeat before he challenges Mihawk.

[@Reallyjoyboyfr]

I love the Zoro vs shanks idea

[@malcommarx9129]

@@Reallyjoyboyfr it just makes a lot of sense for Zoro to challenge Shanks when the Strawhats and Red Hair pirates finally meet. Shanks has no reason to test Luffy since he defeated Kaido. So Zoro would fight Shanks to prove that the crew isn't just Luffy but also to prove to himself that he's ready.

[@Reallyjoyboyfr]

@@malcommarx9129 ngl I need that, ppl think Luffy the only character that matters

[@malcommarx9129]

@@Reallyjoyboyfr And that's why they think Luffy could beat Zoro with little difficulty. I keep telling them that anything below G4 is a warmup for Zoro. And Sanji at this point.

[@garbagecan755]

Luffy worst Swodsman in the series because he picked up a sword in Wano confirmed.

[@rangariraikunedzimwe2780]

Oda is a snakeoil salesman, don't be fooled 🏃‍♂️💨💨

[@zagessj]

😂😂😂

[@almy-qy1lf]

The english translation is flawed. Mihawk is stated again and again to be the greatest swordsman, not the strongest swordman, or to put it more bluntly, not the strongest man who uses a sword. The nuance is clear in the original japanese, and in french also. Shanks uses a sword a lot, and let's admit that makes him a swordsman. Cool. Using that to assume that Mihawk is stronger than him, is based on the confusion between greatest swordman and strongest character who uses a sword. Let's say Kaido suddenly decided to start fighting with a sword. It wouldn't make Mihawk magically stronger than him, but Mihawk would be a greater swordsman than him. And just because his superiority would be based on swordsmanship primarily, wouldn't negate the fact that you also need to be physically strong and good with haki, to be among the greatest swordsmen. I don't know why everyone counters the "only stronger as far as swordsmanship" argument with "Oh, then just say a weakling could be the greatest swordman too, then". No ! Great swordsmanship is CORRELATED with strength, because being the greatest swordsman entails being able to combine advanced use of haki with your slashing techniques. That know-how makes you a more refined swordsman, for sure. Great swordsmanship=> combining haki + sword technique. BUT that isn't EQUIVALENT to being simply stronger than anyone who also uses a sword. Mihawk = strong + greatest swordsmanship Shanks might still, overall, be stronger than Mihawk

[@CoolAsianGuy]

ldiot logic

[@povijestpovijest9569]

Mihawk with sword > Shanks with sword >Shanks without sword > Mihawk without sword

[@mightguy3118]

If mihawk is stronger than shanks then he has Stronger haki than Shanks and why would shanks remove his sword to purposely nerf himself when he's at his best with his sword

[@faith4657]

@@mightguy3118 and how can you prove he has stronger haki, sure his haki must be strong but you think mihawk has any of the feats shanks has.

[@mightguy3118]

@@faith4657Mihawk is being saved I'm just speculating. It's easy to say chopper > monkey d dragon off feats 🤷

[@faith4657]

@@mightguy3118 sure you can say that doesn't make it true. we don't know how oda is going to represent shanks or mihawk or what new statements he will say that changes everything. hell shanks himself seems to be hiding something even we don't know.

[@mightguy3118]

@@faith4657 Shanks isn't hiding something strength wise. We know he's a swordman and how he fights

[@toxicd.cancer1569]

Shanks vs Zoro, otherwise there's no reason for Zoro to fight Mihawk who refuses to duel shanks. The reason why Mihawk has black blade is because of his sword skill. He is the greatest swordsman in this era and Ryuma is also the greatest back in the day. That's why only few people can obtain black blade because the sword skill is lacking. They can train their haki all they like but it will never increase the level of sword skill, stronger haki of course stronger attacks but the essence of sword skill is how masterful a swordsman wielding his blade, like for Zoro, he can only cut what he wishes to cut, Mihawk stopped Zoro using a tiny knife, Mihawk deflecting bullet gracefully. Anyways, I don't believe swordskill is absolute same goes for haki.

[@om9959]

Black blade is literally make a sword very strong with incredible armament haki.Black blade literally represents strong armament hski.

[@gitgud8131]

Shanks is not a stronger swordsman. But his raw haki output and speed make up for it drastically. I still think shanks is stronger than mihawk.

[@AidenB1010]

mihawk fans will never in their lives answer you as to how mihawk was the worlds strongest swordsman at the same time as whitebeard, someone wielding a supreme grade blade, was the strongest man. they also wont accept that since shanks blatantly has stronger haki than whitebeard and passively made people who surround whitebeard collapse makes his title invalid, and therefore also invalidates the credibility of mihawks title. but no, none of that ever happened nor is it relevant, because mihawk has a better title

[@theconductor2969]

Mihawk is stronger than Shanks end of story.

[@hanma_inu]

Mihawk defeated Shanks who was a formidable Swordsman back then.Thats why he achieved the title "The Strongest Swordsman".

[@rexlapis1075]

@@HeavenlyNekoOfficial But the funny thing is people always think shanks gotten stronger but.... They they don't assume mihawk gotten stronger as well?

[@Sasha5_]

@@rexlapis1075 Shanks has one of best haki's in series, its not just sword skill that concludes battle, shanks conq haki was able to knock out many vice captains and scare Kizaru and Fujitora, not to mention shanks insane speed he bltized kizaru, + shanks is killer of obserrvation haki so mihawk cant use observation haki, not to mention Shank's reflexes. In marine ford mihawk apologized to shanks and said hes gonna go full power on luffy, and luffy managed to get away, whilee shanks was chasing kiizaru, fastest man alive. thank you very much. ( confirmed by oda that abiiliites shanks had in film red were cannon such as observaion kiiller etc )

[@ilikechicken5524]

​@@HeavenlyNekoOfficial Whem is the beginning? Because Mihawk was already established when Roger was alive.

[@ilikechicken5524]

​@@Sasha5_ Didn't they say that they lied about some of them to avoid spoilers? Anyways. no, you're using Manga feats and feats of a character who's now being shown against a character who Oda is saving for later. Shanks is stated to be weaker. Mihawk is stated to be stronger than Shanks.. it's not hard

[@ilikechicken5524]

​@@Sasha5_ And haki doesn't end a battle either. especially since it's an integral part of swordsmanship

[@Paopao621]

If mihawk turns out to not have conqueror's haki, then shanks is stronger.

[@mstr293]

The biggest fallacy with the basis of this argument is literally taking Bounty Posters (price and statements) as a 100% accurate representation of power levels. You already have Aokiji stating that isn't ALWAYS the case. Not saying it wasn't, Mihawk wankrs. All I'm saying is there are EXCEPTIONS! Sure, you can use the titles if you compare Swordsmen like Zoro, Killer, Daz Bones, etc... with Mihawk. But there is a limit to its accuracy. It becomes more vague the higher you go (beyond Yonko Commander level fighters). Since there are also the same hype-making titles like "Strongest Man" or "Strongest Creature", both form ex-Yonko. This raises the question to "who's the strongest between these three? It's also been 12 years since Mihawk and Shanks last fight, so how updated was this statement? Has the WG measured both Mihawk and Shanks growth in training OR how they adapted vs more powerful foes like Luffy over that long time span? Did they have similar growth? Lastly, the same source (WG) also claimed that Buggy is Red Hair's equal. To our eyes, we know it's a joke. But to the WG, this is their perception of Buggy's power. So good luck justifying that!

[@FireAngelChris]

Yeah MIhawk and Buggy comparison don’t work unless you mention they are exceptions to the rules or anomaly. Buggy is seen as gag character MIhawk isn’t. Those titles of strongest are fairly accurate portrayal of power because only a select few of people have them. When Whitebeard was at his prime only a few select people was on his level they were the pirate king,Sengoku,Garp etc. By time he started to get old the strongest creature in the world Kaido started to pass him up and again very few was matching him. Dragon is the most wanted/dangerous man in the world that is Luffy father and Garp son you can use those two to take a pretty good guess of how powerful he is,on top of being the leader of rev army. Then you have MIhawk who is at the peak of his power with zero doubt about his title from people in the series and the author himself and comparison to another insanely powerful individual shanks who are at the top of their game. My overall point is the people with distinct world renounce titles are standouts even among the strongest and measure up with each other for the most part. With a select list of people that can beat them or are on their level. So for me it’s pretty clear based on what oda have stated Shanks and MIhawk are on same type of level like how Roger and Whitebeard was.

[@mstr293]

No argument against that. If one is stronger than the other, I doubt the gap is even that large. A 1-10% difference in power and skill overall. Roger, WB, Mihawk, Shanks, Kaido, BM, Gear 5 (temporarily), even some of the Admirals are close in power.

[@mstr293]

Garp, Sengoku, Shiki and Rocks too.

[@marcelfields-ti7wv]

Jus cause your stronger doesn’t mean you win the fight bro. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@SailentZen]

This is by far the dumbest comment I’ve seen, wouldn’t that just mean Mihawk would straight up beat shanks with raw skill if Shanks was stronger? “oH bUt hAkI” Mihawk knows how to use it too?

[@Cyber-Gasolinera1303]

Bro I’m so done w this YES shanks is a swordsman and YES Mihawk has the title of the worlds best swordsman but MIHAWK IS NOT STRONGER THAN SHANKS. 1. From a narrative point it makes no sense shanks is way more important to the story without mentioning one of luffys final encounters while Mihawk is the guy zoro has to be at the end in narrative alone shanks is more important. 2. When they talked in the island and Mihawk said he didn’t want to fight shanks because of his arm shanks literally said he’ll still take him also Mihawk mentioned he doesn’t wanna “settle the score” anymore what score would he have to settle if he won? 3. WB was “The World Strongest Man” but we all know that wasn’t true a fair amount of people in marineford were stronger and yet he still kept that title also shanks clashed w healthy WB is the World Strongest Man > World Strongest Swordsman. 4. Mihawk was a fraud at marineford his performance was just sad I got tired lmao answer if u want more

[@marcomarin1196]

So are y'all all telling me Mihawk would also beat Mama and Whitebeard 1v1 (his weapon is also considered a sword)

[@whatthatbout4629]

Not it’s not lol it’s just a supreme grade BLADE and it’s a naginatata not a sword bro lmaoo incredible mental gymnastics

[@marcomarin1196]

@@whatthatbout4629 lol ok i'll take the L but still answer about Mama then her's is a sword right?

[@danchiziofficial2159]

@@marcomarin1196 shanks is a sword man

[@marcomarin1196]

@@danchiziofficial2159 So is Mama not a swordswoman?

[@johnsean122]

@@marcomarin1196 l think law and kid beat mama mihawk will do the same thing even faster