Why Akatsuki VS Espada Isn’t Close

Why Akatsuki VS Espada Isn’t Close
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We talked about the Warlords , they folded the Akatsuki, so today, we are gonna put another group of the big 3 against the Akatsuki. Can they beat the Espada? Well YOU BOUTA FIND OUT. The only thing to note is I will be doing each matchup in 3 rounds, one with who would win normally, who would win equal stats, and then a battle royal for the fun of it. Also these matchups are picked out by me personally because I'm cool and you guys can see that I made these matchups fitting and how I'm basically Kanye West. The Espada are the ten top-ranked and most powerful Arrancar in Sōsuke Aizen's army of Hollows with Shinigami-like powers, serving as the primary opponents of the Gotei 13 captains during Aizen's war. Akatsuki was originally founded by Yahiko during the Third Shinobi World War alongside his childhood friends, Nagato and Konan. As citizens of Amegakure who had been orphaned by the Second Shinobi World War, the three created Akatsuki as a way to bring peace to their home country, which too often got caught in the crossfire of the Five Great Shinobi Countries' many conflicts. In time, the three were approached by Tobi, who introduced himself as Madara Uchiha. Tobi claimed Nagato was the reincarnation of the Sage of Six Paths and offered to teach him to control the power of his Rinnegan, though Yahiko distrusted him and prompted Nagato to turn down his offer. Nevertheless, Tobi would later claim that it was he who encouraged Yahiko to form Akatsuki, unbeknownst to Konan. Naruto is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Masashi Kishimoto. It tells the story of Naruto Uzumaki, a young ninja who seeks recognition from his peers and dreams of becoming the Hokage, the leader of his village. The story is told in two parts - the first set in Naruto's pre-teen years, and the second in his teens. The series is based on two one-shot manga by Kishimoto: Karakuri (1995), which earned Kishimoto an honorable mention in Shueisha's monthly Hop Step Award the following year, and Naruto (1997). Naruto was serialized in Shueisha's magazine, Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1999 to 2014, and released in tankōbon (book) form in 72 volumes. The manga was adapted into an anime television series produced by Pierrot and Aniplex, which broadcast 220 episodes in Japan from 2002 to 2007; the English dub of the series aired on Cartoon Network and YTV from 2005 to 2009. Naruto: Shippuden, a sequel to the original series, premiered in Japan in 2007, and ended in 2017, after 500 episodes. The story of Naruto continues with Naruto's son, Boruto Uzumaki, in Boruto: Naruto Next Generations: Boruto wishes to create his own ninja way instead of following his father's. Bleach is a Japanese anime television series based on Tite Kubo's original manga series of the same name. It was produced by Studio Pierrot and directed by Noriyuki Abe. The series aired on TV Tokyo from October 2004 to March 2012, spanning 366 episodes. The story follows the adventures of Ichigo Kurosaki after he obtains the powers of a Soul Reaper-a death personification similar to the Grim Reaper-from another Soul Reaper, Rukia Kuchiki. His newfound powers force him to take on the duties of defending humans from evil spirits and guiding departed souls to the afterlife. In addition to adapting the manga series it is based on, the anime periodically includes original self-contained storylines and characters not found in the manga. Viz Media obtained foreign television and home video distribution rights to the Bleach anime in March 2006. Bleach was broadcast in the United States on Adult Swim from September 2006 to November 2014. Bleach: Thousand-Year Blood War, a sequel series covering the manga's final story arc, also animated by Pierrot and directed by Tomohisa Taguchi, aired its first 13-episode cour on TV Tokyo from October to December 2022. The second cour premiered in July 2023.
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#naruto #bleach #manga

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

On the stark matchup, don’t forget that stark has TWO souls, meaning he can potential real out of genjutsu. So it’s still a wash

[@jackezzpanzer]

If I remembered correctly, Kubo also confirmed that Starrk was the only espada with infinite reiatsu

[@o_o888]

@@jackezzpanzerhe could launch infinite amount of ceros but he doesn’t have that transcendent reiatsu that has infinite power

[@binaryboopsva]

@@jackezzpanzer nah. He's near a true Kenpachi's level though. we've seen 6% of a soul be able to damage gods but also burn someone out. So the wolves has to be much less than 6% and he has have damn good endurance to withstand that.

[@jackezzpanzer]

Well that just means my memory is unreliable nowadays

[@meowbahhyt]

Stark is fodder what did he even do Deidara one hits him

[@advansement]

yami got hit by a poison which could melt concrete . i am certain that sasori's poison would do nothing to anyone

[@Naglfar94]

This here yeeah Sasori's poison ain't doin jack all to any of the espada. Keep in mind without his secret release yami is what number 10? Zommari is I think 7 or so so yeeeah I don't see Sasori's poison doing much there

[@ihatebilly4675]

I’m pretty sure sasori’s poison wasn’t supposed to act like fucking acid

[@Naglfar94]

@@ihatebilly4675 True but the fact that the poison is friggin melting solid matter is a testament to how potent it is. Sasori's poison is nowhere near as potent. Nothing an espada can't handle that is if Sasori can even pierce their skin at all because they have their hard spiritual energy enhanced skin I just can't see bro pulling a W even in a stats equal battle. Espada poison resistance is clearly on another tier compared to anyone in naruto with the yammy feat.and we can only scale upwards from yammy. Yammy's base at that since in base he is number 10

[@lejen1925]

well yammy had one of the stronger hiero's among the espada. so I don't think him surviving that poison despite being rank 10 means every single one of the 9 othe espadas can do the same thing.

[@ajayimoses2495]

No that was acid not poison Sasori’s poison is waaay more complex and immobilizes it’s victims

[@gravity6869]

What’s crazy is that none of the akatsuki could see the espada

[@Smegma_o]

If they could even yammy solos

[@niichigary8609]

it's highly likely that they are able to sense them, doesn't matter though, zommari solos.

[@saninpain]

Pain and Obito can with the Rinnegan.

[@ashurastrife08]

@@saninpain something i would say if i was retarded

[@0Rosanna]

Pain and obito might be the only ones that could see them due to rinnegan. They still get stomped quite badly regardless

[@Psi_01]

The Espada destroy them so bad the Samsara of Heavenly Life won't be able to revive them

[@andrewfairweather4742]

Lol

[@alexisbaz8746]

Considering Hollows devore Souls and their Zanpaku-to destroy Souls...

[@meowbahhyt]

The espada are all city level Akatsuki solo itachi susanoo is invincible

[@dr.coomer4133]

cope@@meowbahhyt

[@dr.coomer4133]

because that's the biggest cap i've ever seen

[@djphat94]

I’ve always believed that Uquiorra is indeed the strongest espada, and Aizen knew it and kept it that way to inflict despair on ichigo. His normal power would scale to #4 but his segunda etappa is what set him leagues above the rest of the espada.

[@DRASERUS]

I don't think a second release give that much boost he probably like stronger than hallibel at best imo.

[@djphat94]

@@DRASERUS considering most other transformations gave a 10x modifier I think it’s a safe assumption to say that segunda etappa is also 10x

[@DRASERUS]

@@djphat94 yeah so that puts him around hallibel or barragan at most lol

[@djphat94]

@@DRASERUS you really think she’s that much stronger? Hard doubt.

[@DRASERUS]

@@djphat94 i mean am i wrong tho? First release Ulquiorra is still 4th espada so a 10x boost should put him around hallibel. yeah i don't think hallibel would win but imo i don't think he get pass barragan.

[@alphawolf7417]

The other big issue here is limits. To my knowledge, each of the Akatsuki has a major limit to their power that makes them a bad match for the Espada. Hidan is immortal but cannot regenerate by himself. Kakazu has a life counter. Konan becomes tangible if she gets to low on chakra. Deidara has a limited amount of clay. Sasori has a limited amount of weapons and puppets. Tobi can't stay intangible forever according to Konan. Finally Pain and Itachi, the 2 biggest threats, both are frail and risk dying if they go to hard. Kisame feels like the only real opponent without a major limit on him.

[@levigrant2708]

I think hidan can regen himself I don't remember that being a thing

[@alphawolf7417]

@@levigrant2708 we see in one scene, he needed Kakazu to sew his head back on after Asuma decapitated him.

[@Soulsociety2005]

Itachi isn’t as big a threat as obito.

[@afonsocoimbra8424]

I had forgotten obito him with the rinnegan, mangekyo sharingan and his ability to use kamui even dodge most of the attacks at speed of light since he could dodge minato's rasengan when he used eternal raijin jutsu idk he at least would take like 6 espada down not with that much difficulty.

[@alphawolf7417]

@afonsocoimbra8424 depends on how you look at it. Light Speed in Naruto is pretty rare, but in Bleach, it's pretty much basic speed. Even Aaroniero was able to dodge literal light. Plus, I don't know much in Tobi/Obito's arsenal that could actually get through an Arrancar's Hiero.

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

It’s honestly really fair. Ulqiorra is enough to beat all the Naruto heavy hitters. Like…what are they going to do? Dog would wash everyone…leaving just holes in their chest

[@kareem5965]

The akatsuki sure but the heavy hitters? Lets bfr ulq is not THAT strong

[@CYEAUGH-gq7gn]

​​@@kareem5965I'm guessing you've never seen bleach 💀

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

@@kareem5965 not a single character in the entire Naruto verse can match Ulquiorra in anything really. Speed? This dude moved so fast, he was in front of Ichigo, then instantly grabbed his head from the side...no teleportion, no tricks, just straight up FTL speed. Durability? A bankai, hollow mask Ichigo hit bro with his strongest getsuga tenshou (a move that's continental mond you) and Ulq literally said 'this sad ass shit is all you got?' Couldnt even get past his reitsu barrier...what's Naruto dudes gonna do? Amaterasu? Lmao Power? One answer: Lance of Lightning/ Cero Obscurres... NOTHING in Naruto is surviving those. Genjustu? Sure, you'll get him maybe at first with a powerful genjustu in base, bit a hollows resurrection negates ALL current status effects on them, and heals them completely....Ulq has TWO of those... It's a complete slaughter. He'd be killing ninja by the hundreds before they even understand what's happening

[@keyon07]

@@RebelOfTheNorm242naruto can do this in base

[@kareem5965]

@@RebelOfTheNorm242 ulq is calced at multi continental in AP and ftl+ that is true ajd he can beat a huge portion of narutos cast however someone like sos6p chakra naruto or sasuke or dms kakashi and etc have been calced at also ftl+ with some calcs saying theyre planetary in ap and those guys have fought people with the same amount of power

[@louanmerminod5071]

The Espada stomp, it's like a thermonuclear bomb against a coughing baby

[@meowbahhyt]

Get the espada over city first lanza wasn't even that big Deidara move was bigger Akatsuki wins

[@waifuhunter922]

Just because it’s bigger doesn’t mean it’s more powerful

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

​@@meowbahhytYammy is easily above city and ulq

[@creekpiper18]

@@meowbahhyt lol... Just bcoz the explosion is bigger doesn't mean it's that effective. Espadas tank nukes or even negate explosive attacks barehanded. They're attacks have more AP and are more concentrated than having large Aoe atttacks than those so called rogue ninjas. Not to mention they can easily sonido their way far away easy or escape to gargantua and make deidaras sacrifice useless. Ulquiorra can spam his lanza while deidara can only do it once. Espadas stomps akatsuki low diff.

[@hyperlance8732]

​@@creekpiper18none of them having anything in there aresanl to protect themselves against itachis amaterasu since they are hotter than yamamotos flames and everyone in bleach is scared of yamas flames. 2 they have no protection against his genjutsu since they have the same activation as aizens illusions. 3 itachis yata mirror can block literally any attack regardless of it being physical or and this is a big one...SPIRITUAL whaaaaat!!!!! All of the espandas attacks are now useless. 4 the last thing is itachis blade of totsuka which is a completely spirtual sword that has a 100% success rate at sealing whoever gets hit by it no matter what meaning a whole group of beings made of spiritual energy would be fucked

[@AlexT7916]

Barragan really kills all of the Akatsuki by himself

[@VitorSoloArc]

Fr lol

[@etillman14]

The other kick in the nuts for naruto characters in this matchup is all bleach characters can essentially fly (which is also why Deidara is decent to begin with) so bleach characters who use primarily ranged attacks (like Stark) are at a huge advantage even stats or not

[@Fearedits-q8c]

I hate to say the easpda win

[@Depressed_until_dead]

ehm, as a bleach fanboy i can say that flight is NOT a basic ability for the verse, their stats sure are fairly high but they don't have flight all that much, they use energy to step on / walk on air, they even struggle with/grab air to stop the force of the enemy and very few fly naturally like ulquiorra. Yet again you see most captains face against aizen literally floating effortlessly and then at other times they literally hit the ground or go from rooftop to rooftop smh 🙃

[@Filipekon]

​@@Depressed_until_deadits mostly because fights in air are boring, you dont have a proper power of a attack, take this: ulqiorra punches ichigo mid air and he just flies away, you dont really get the power, but on the ground, he gets punched and flies thru a few buildings, now thats a powerful punch😊

[@JT-km6th]

Baraggan wins, what's 3 days of torture in Tsukuyomi going to do to a primordial hollow? 💀 Itachi could spend a lifetime in Tsukuyomi, use all his chakra and Barragan won't even flinch at the 100years, he's been alive for 1,000s. Edit: Barragan is millions of years old and predates literal death in the Bleach verse, it's no contest.

[@shisei_EternalAtake]

best case scenario itachi takes out two with izanami, then gets instafolded by the rest.

[@ajayimoses2495]

Nope itachi controls everything in the tsukuyomi realm… All five senses and the flow of time. Barragan would get mentally destroyed and sealed by totsuka

[@xsorce1961]

Itachi doesn’t just have to torcher em he can do anything for any time not just three days and NOT just a life time ligit decades centuries even and he doesn’t just have to stab him he can do anything he’s basically a god in tsykuyomme

[@swayy863]

All of this assuming equal stats..if not itachi gets blitzed and one shot or just vaporized by being in the presence of baragan

[@joseaugustosoriano5094]

@@ajayimoses2495 bro, even kakashi suported his genjutsu, do u think barragan would even flinch to it? fr, he has hundreds to thousands of years... and in res he doesnt even have eyes...

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

For Barragan vs Itachi... I'd think Barragan could probably age Genjutsu. I mean, if that fight were to happen in an anime, that would totally be a thing. And then there'd be a whole thing about that one infinite Genjutsu and all that. But in classic bleach fashion, even that would somehow not be enough, cause it wasnt as infinite as they thought, just really long.

[@saadpirzada9540]

I just reread Baragan's fight and yea that's exactly what would happen

[@SaturdayNightblue]

Also genjutsu doesn’t work on ppl without chakra

[@Theligmaguy]

@@SaturdayNightbluewhat I was about to say

[@bootlegspinjutsu9966]

Barragan also doesn't have eyes in Resurreccion

[@thisguy2.2]

that glazing is insane "age genjutsu" something that isn't even real, you deserve the trophy of the most glazing human on earth

[@defianthound407]

Its insane how people can try to compare the universes. Ichigo when he stepped into the soul society and did his bankai training immediately Gapped Naruto's verse. To think about it Naruto developed an ability that could fight against the soul society in the Ninja war arc. His ability to sense invisible adversaries but hes still insanely weak in comparison to the 13 court guard squad who Ichigo clears easily

[@meowbahhyt]

Why can't bleach fans show a feat of bleach over country? Not separating universes or fusing them. Naruto solos the verse no one should put Kaguya at universal because of her dimensions

[@defianthound407]

@@meowbahhyt Ichigo was able to damage the Street sweeper demon thing that cleans up what's between dimensions which was thought to be indestructible before he even got his bankai, the fact that one of the first techniques characters learn is shunpo or a variation of it (which is basically flying raijin on crack with out the tracking you anywhere ability.) Means they are already faster than a Naruto character, It's crazy your comparing Naruto to Bleach when Narutos Biggest rival/Fight was against Sasuke who beat his ass with bare hands when ever they fought.

[@defianthound407]

@@meowbahhyt It's okay that Naruto is the weakest of the Big 3 versus. It's okay bro. There are Naruto fans that argue Naruto beats DBZ cause Genjutsu which is a huge stretch. That ability isn't over country level so using their argument you don't have to be over heaven to beat any verse just have hacks.

[@meowbahhyt]

All that and only mountain level feats. Feats like the cleaner don't give any scale they are just managers to make the world work. Ichigo got hit by soundspeed gin and Naruto dodged Raikage lightspeed so at best you say the Verdes are relative in speed Akatsuki have bigger feats Deidara final move proves this so they solo

[@meowbahhyt]

Yeah Akatsuki solo in dc and abilities. The ESPADA don't win In any scenario example a street level character with no abilities will never best Goku. Abilities could win but if Goku has better abilities he wins

[@unordinary9617]

The hacks in bleach too op like spiritual pressure literally makes them immune to attacks from people who don’t have it and like ichigo vs zaraki in soul society ichigo got hurt from attacking him cuz he didn’t have a lot

[@meowbahhyt]

Akatsuki solo Espada soul society was like Mountain top city block level

[@amityadav2457]

Spammer

[@lunarizon1981]

@@meowbahhyt all i hear is yippidy yap

[@BackyardFullOfPigs]

I think the spiritual pressure thing isn’t going to make them immune because chakra is a mix of physical and spiritual

[@Theligmaguy]

@@BackyardFullOfPigsbut don’t forget though that bleach characters won’t have chakra and naruto won’t have spiritual energy so genjutsu wouldn’t work

[@justakettlehelm1673]

I feel like with equal stats you forgot to mention that not just Nnoitra but *all* of the espada have a hierro - or basically iron skin that allows them to casually tank attacks that have put other characters either in a casket or down for the count. Not to mention their ability that allows them to put spiritual pressure around their hands (the red staticky thing) and quite literally pierce and essentially karate chop people's bodies like they're butter to a buzzsaw.

[@saninpain]

Nnitora just has the strongest hierro yes.

[@thehonoredone2361]

As a fan of both groups but who likes the Akatsuki way more. Even I know this match up would be like full grown mma fighters going to a third world country preschool and just smacking them around like nothing.

[@AuroraBoost]

Yeah, this fight wouldn't be pretty lol

[@Kasairoe]

W buddha

[@Belphemon1]

the weakest espadas can beat Akatsuki top tiers

[@sancho004]

Would it be any different for a “first world” country pre school?😂😂😂

[@justsomekidthatsinfinitely7090]

Malnutrition

[@weskintime4177]

On the speed scaling for Bleach, Ichigo blocks a cero from a Menos Grande Pre-Shikai (Ichigo’s Shikai is a 5x boost as he later keeps up with Gentei Kaijou Renji which limits a Soul Reaped to 20%) which is between 10% and 18% the Speed of Light. After the 5x boost you have Ichigo at 50%-90% LS and Bankai being another 5-10x amp (using 10x as that’s what most people use) Ichigo as of the Byakuya fight is 5x-9x FTL. Hollow mask should be a Bankai level boost as implied by Tosen during his fight with Shuhei and Komomura so Ichigo at the start of Hueco Mundo is 50x-90x FTL.

[@slevinchannel7589]

2:20: No, actually its Country-Level, what is this KZbinr talking about, he gets so much wronggg.

[@liamneeson8918]

Theres also how Ichigo blitzed those three lieutenants while just in Shikai, so you have him 50%-90% LS during his second fight with Renji then x5 for him blitzing those three lieutenants and then the Bankai and Hollow mask amps on top of that.

[@stumpy1146]

I'm slightly ashamed that I could read and understand that. . .

[@mult1versal]

@@slevinchannel7589you haven't read bleach or done an ounce of scaling in your life

[@mult1versal]

@@slevinchannel7589 "bruh moment" in 2023 is absolutely CRAZY i'm not readin allat

[@avatar1o1234]

The espadas are basically evolved corrupted souls (hollows) that can’t be seen or touched by anyone. Only if you have a slight sliver of spiritual pressure, can you see them. Humans in the bleach world have no spiritual pressure, ichigo even lost his powers and wasn’t able to see or touch them. Akatsuki will literally get no-diffed/erased from existence due to them having no spiritual pressure.

[@painofanime3321]

No chakra will allow them to see spiritual beings this happend alot in the series where they see the dead for example kakashi seeing rin and Obito and his father and Naruto seeing his parents in the kyubi which means that chakra aka a form of spiritual energy which form life will make them able to see spirits 😅

[@avatar1o1234]

@@painofanime3321 Bro, none of the characters in Naruto have spiritual pressure. There are also no soul reapers or hollows in Naruto.

[@starbustergaming5651]

​​​@@avatar1o1234 true they're neither quincys

[@starbustergaming5651]

​@@painofanime3321 Chakra and spirit energy are the same but Chakra and spiritual pressure are not the same thing

[@Itachi_D_Kuchiki]

​@@starbustergaming5651Yup, so if we say chakra is spiritual energy, it would be comparible to Reiryoku in Bleach, but not to Reiatsu

[@echidnabathwater6627]

Barragan would age the genjutsu itself as well. Taking into consideration the actual functionality of Genjutsu, and Itachi's specifically being Time related, are just the chakra networks in the brain being manipulated to view something that isn't there, through someone elses energy creating that. The actual chakra manipulation still requires contact of the two chakra points, which would age the moment it comes near him, then the actual fundamental existence of the genjutsu itself is created through a network of chakra, which would also age considering he ages kido instantly as well.

[@nestor1526]

You can't age a genjutsu, its just an illusion. If Barragan could do that then Aizens zanpakuto wouldn't work on him either.

[@echidnabathwater6627]

@@nestor1526 They work on fundamentally different levels and spectrums with different activation requirements. Genjutsu in Naruto is physical energy being processed into another persons brain and messing up their chakra network in their brain and optical nerves specifically. It's an existing energy being sent at someone to mess with them. Barragan has shown to age even energy itself as he ages kido, which would function in the same way. The illusion wouldn't be aged, but the chakra that is being used to create the illusion would.

[@nestor1526]

@echidnabathwater6627 That's pretty much what Aizen does. His Kyoka Suigetsu is also visual based and interferes with the five senses, and yet Barragan still affected by it. Also, genjutsu is made up of yin and yang energy, but it is primarily yin, which is another word for spiritual energy.

[@echidnabathwater6627]

@@nestor1526 The inherent difference is /how/ or /why/ they affect the other. Yin and yang chakra is still just chakra, it still affects the world on the same level as all other energy types. Which means it still ages and exists the same way as all other energy types. Aizens Zanpakutou is not limited to the emission of an energy, it's a simple cut and dry look at it and it's done. All Genjutsu have a constant flow of energy into the other person.

[@nestor1526]

@echidnabathwater6627 Genjutsu isn't a constant flow. Even if the caster is killed, the jutsu still carries on. A good example is the infinite tsukiyomi. That still carried on despite Madara and Kaguya being defeated. Or what about the Kotoamatsukami jutsu, which was cast on Itachi and still worked even after Itachi killed the crow.

[@dinocharlie1]

The difference is the Akatsuki were just a group of elite Ninjas gone rogue. In terms of sports imagine Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt, dominant and seemingly unstoppable, but in a fight since this is an analogy, could be beaten if you use multiple people. But the Espada were on another level even compared to the strongest people revealed in the universe(with a few exeptions). Imagine Superman or the Flash going up against average pro athletes. It doesn't matter how many people you have tag team a relay race marathon, they aren't beating either one. The difference in power even in relation to their own universes is staggering. The Akatsuki were each about 80-90% of a kage on average being generous (konan and deidara are MAYBE 60%) meanwhile each and every Espada is probably at least 150% of a Captain.

[@Itachi_D_Kuchiki]

Not every espada maybe. Most of them were Vasto Lorde before, so their power is above captainlevel, even before becoming an arrancar. But some of them were normal hollows. It would be interesting to know, how much power an hollow gets by becoming an arrancar ... 5x, or 10x stronger?

[@Theligmaguy]

@@Itachi_D_Kuchikino only Halibel and Barragan are the 2 confirmed vasto but ulq and stark probably are but no one else

[@Itachi_D_Kuchiki]

@@Theligmaguy I would argue, that at least Starrk and Ulquiorra were Vasto Lordes too for shure. And we dont know about the others ...

[@gregorybauer3789]

@@Itachi_D_Kuchikiit was confirmed in a short story put out by kubo that ulq was a vasto

[@JT-km6th]

Espada stomp Akatsuki in equal and unequal, however almost all the Akatsuki members are stronger than an average Kage, Deidara beats Mei. Only Jozu, White Zetsu, and Hidan lose to the average Kage in the verse.

[@skioncarbury9264]

ngl I have no clue who in the naruto fandom brought this debate up its a stomp no matter how much you try to high ball the akatsuki

[@nadhifdolla9249]

akatsuki will mush the espada with hidan alone. ez clap

[@skioncarbury9264]

@@nadhifdolla9249weakest Espada demolishes every akatsuki member lmao

[@skioncarbury9264]

@@nadhifdolla9249 good rage bait tho

[@hobbyhorse5848]

8:22 That wasn’t even a Bijuu Bomb, it was just a cat fire ball jutsu. And Kakuzu was under the two tails paw at the time so he wasn’t even hit by it. It’s so bad for the Akatsuki considering that Kakuzu one of the more durable members needed to harden his body to endure ONE PAPER BOMB uninjured while the weakest Espada Aaroniero with the worst hierro would’ve been able to tank a double incantation Hado 73 from Rukia with just “some damage”. Espada 9 in the special hell chapter also fell from the top level of Hell a multi world sized realm to the bottom and his glass tank wasn’t damaged.

[@meowbahhyt]

Itachi solos espada with genjutsu

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

​@@meowbahhytItachi gets one tapped by barragan

[@InYourWallsNow]

​@@meowbahhytstarkk can just yawn on them

[@BMCKINN7]

@@meowbahhyt you again?! Y'know what, I'm gone 😑

[@villanvitella]

⁠@@meowbahhytgenjutsu doesnt work under Aizens men. Before he could even get it off ulqihora blows up the entire akatsuki in seconds. He speed blitzes ever character in naruto since the fastest they have reached is a bit faster then light speed. Also if you think someone under aizen will be controlled by a simple genjutsu you need to watch anime like actually aziens solos the entire world including boruto if the villains, gods, and good guys.

[@jamier842]

Why would Naruto fans be mad? Akatsuki literally lose in their own anime😭

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

Because of fanboyism. They want to believe so hard that their favorite verse always wins. There is a reason why Naruto vs Goku is still a debate after all these years.

[@Gilat33n]

The Espadas lost in their own anime too, so you have no point

[@emperorraisin]

@@Gilat33n But they came back, not the akatsuki 💀💀

[@zeroxenoverse9251]

​@@emperorraisinTrue but not the same members.

[@Seydomi]

Lmfao this comment took me out😂😂😂

[@lesvernornvienas8232]

To make things worse in Naruto when they say stuff like "they can destroy a country" it doesn't mean they can take it out in one shot, they can single-handedly fight that country's army and kill its leaders, either in direct combat or with sneak attacks. So really the best example of raw power in the Akatsuki would be Pains all mighty push which is city level.

[@floppa731]

Sasori blew up a country. Like him and deidara watch it explode from a distance

[@lesvernornvienas8232]

@@floppa731 when did this happen?

[@astridparungao4971]

Sasori actually took down a country.

[@lesvernornvienas8232]

@@astridparungao4971 yeah but he didn't blow it up or wipe it off the map he took it down systematically, killings its army and leaders that's my point

[@pejman3]

@@lesvernornvienas8232 deidara pain and biju bombs are city busters at least. amaterasu probably could be a city buster if left to burn everything first hokage vs mada was also on city buster level by city buster I mean can blow up an average sized city (like konoha) instantly. Afaik most grand ray cero are also close to that in power. the thing with shonen manga is that somehow you need more energy to kill that 1 strong dude than destroy a city full of buildings and conrete etc.

[@seansteward7803]

Spiritual pressure would just fold them all up like a blanket 😂

[@Posttimeskip-kPk]

😂

[@Srstrix]

The only reason Yammi beats ichigo was because of his internal struggle if he wasn't going through that he would be dead or maybe not because Ulquiorra would save him but still that was a ichigo with a debuff.

[@meowbahhyt]

Ichigo just fought Ulquiorra he was tired. Naruto solos country level high balled bleach

[@Srstrix]

@@meowbahhyt lol you don't even know what you're talking about, when ichigo fought Yammi he cut off his arm and then white tried to take over so he got beaten by Yammi because of the conflict in inside ichigo, he never fought Ulquiorra at that point in time, then urahara and yoruichi arrived and saved him, Yammi wanted to fight them but Ulquiorra knew they were too powerful so they retreated. Naruto solos what? Don't make me laugh, Naruto verse is one of the weakest in all anime, some bleach characters are strong enough to destroy the world unlike Naruto.

[@meowbahhyt]

No feats of world Dc in bleach lol Naruto clears with feats shown moon cutting statements don't count

[@juggram_99]

@@meowbahhyt didn't know Naruto fanboys were this annoying, why are you behaving like a child😂

[@mcwaff8661]

​@@juggram_99they're just a bait channel.

[@kylezhang6889]

I feel like people are forgetting what ninjas actually do. They are to assassinate people and they aren’t actually supposed to be waging wars in broad daylight. Also also everyone in the Naruto verse is human so unless you have a pocket Tsunade, if you get hit in any vital spots ,you will def die. Soul reapers and hollows are just on a dif level especially in terms of durability.

[@eternal9419]

Thats cool if Naruto later on didnt water down to throwing the bigger biju attack on your enemy.

[@gameshooterstarOG]

3:17 just wanted to point out. Just because you can react to light doesnt mean your as fast as it. You can also react to a ball flying at you with 80kmh / 49mph but youre not that fast. But i think Bleach characters are as fast as light anyways mainly becuase of the shunpo technic which is really basic in bleach. It translates to lighting step so.

[@Tylearned]

When I say speed I’m not talking about travel I’m referring to combat/reaction speed

[@gameshooterstarOG]

@@Tylearned oh ok. Thanks for explanation

[@cast8060]

@@Tylearned You didn't state that though, you just said speed and how fast they are.

[@silver3981]

Nitpicking but just gotta say, lightning and light are not the same. Under ideal circumstances lightning travels at 2/3rds the speed of light.

[@envyst4r836]

@@cast8060 well he just stated it right there

[@ninjanimarkus6077]

Ulquiorra: this individual, is *trash*

[@Posttimeskip-kPk]

I can hear Ulquiorra trash talking

[@Filipekon]

Ulquiorra would yap about the heart and solo the entire group at once🙏😭

[@horae6528]

all espada have something called "pesquisa", which from my understanding is sort of like whiskers from cats. it allows them to feel the world around them with their reiatsu and instinctively tells them to dodge when something dangerous comes their way. In equalized stats, sure ulquiorra could get caught off guard once by the six paths but he would adapt accordingly and probably just start nuking the entire field. Ulquiorra Ws.

[@crisscore157]

in the case off starrk vs obito, starrk does have lilinette and she prob would want to wake him up when she notices something weird especialy in his reiatsu

[@lo4tr]

Assuming Genjutsu even effects him. Not only is he a spirit, which really throws off the nature of Genjutsu interaction, but his level of power output far exceeds even the strongest Obito forms. Bleach characters can negate hax if they have enough Reiatsu, which Starrk undoubtedly does.

[@crisscore157]

@@lo4tr ye, starrk has enough counters that even with equal stats (which would negate the hax negation through having more reiatsu) genjutsu shouldnt be much off a problem. Tho it might be a little distraction if it works on him and lilinette has to find out whats happening first

[@andSaved]

Genjutsu wouldn’t effect any bleach characters because it specifically manipulates the chakra in their optic nerves, and bleach reiatsu is released through openings in their wrists so it just wouldn’t work.

[@DrippUP]

@@andSaved Mangekyou Sharingans do not have to manipulate a victims chakra - MS users force their own chakra into the victim, as stated by Shisui in the Itachi novel.. and if Rieatsu is connected to any kind of system, well I guess the Uchiha would just cast their genjutsu on peoples wrists. lol

[@meowbahhyt]

Obito one hits fodder stark he can't get through Kamui also his weak moves did nothing to Shunsui and the visored lol

[@aarnavchopra4538]

You know it's gonna be a good video when it starts with the " Naruto fans aren't gonna like this one". 💀💀

[@l1t00sav5]

As a naruto and bleach fan I don't know how to feel about this

[@NagSenpaisSon]

i’m a huge naruto person it’s my favorite anime and even i know that any one of the espada except maybe 10 9 and 8 so lol akatsuki

[@Griimoiire]

Once you understand that hueco mundo is infinite in size, and that each one of the espada have a cero that could obliterate it but arent allowed to, you then understand that narutoverse wouldnt hold a candle to bleach characters

[@CptInstaRamen]

All espadas and Arancars have hierrro, making there skin, at minimum as hard as steal. Then when you factor in spiritual pressure, which prevents anything of lesser pressure from cutting the user, all weapons in the shinobi world can pretty much be considered useless. Then there is pesquisa which allows them to sense spiritual energy to an exact location unless using specific techniques like sonido, that hide a users spiritual energy. This is assuming that for the sake of the fight we consider chakra and spiritual energy the same thing otherwise the Akatsuki would be crushed just in the presence of the Espada because they wouldn't have their own energy to protect them.

[@devilgod4552]

Naruto's planet is much bigger than earth, which means they use to live in an extremely high pressure,

[@somedudeonline4687]

@@devilgod4552 Spiritual pressure is something completely different bruh. If you don't have reiatsu you can't survive its a soul based attack.

[@devilgod4552]

@@somedudeonline4687 there isn't any difference between soul and spirit

[@somedudeonline4687]

@@devilgod4552 ????? What. I'm saying no matter how big the pressure on the planet is it has no effect on their resistance to spiritual pressure. Two completely different things.

[@devilgod4552]

@@somedudeonline4687 Naruto's planet is a different case, in the latest manga we came to know that the planet contain the chakra of all living being who died on it,

[@Jz.f3]

People in comments arent even thinkin that the writer of bleach confirmed that they arent all ranked by their numbers some are stronger than whwt they r ranked with

[@beatrixkaelin5120]

There's a major problem, and it makes the fight even less fair. How many of the Akatsuki can see ghosts? How many of their attacks aren't strictly physical and can damage the spirit of their opponent? Explosives, Poisons, shuriken, even dropping a konoha sized rock on them would likely not do anything to them. And while most people conflate reaction speed, being able to react to lightning, doesn't mean you can do anything to it. Aaroniero Arruruerie, the weakest of all the Espada, is capable of not only reacting to Light, but moves so fast that the light from an hole opened directly behind him with daylight shining through couldn't even touch him. That's both reaction AND movement Speed, during combat no less. If the Weakest of Espada is capable of both reacting and moving faster than light, not a single character in Naruto can catch them. Because no, no matter how much you wanna convince yourself Naruto dodging a beam of light SWUNG AT HIM AT THE SAME SPEED AS HIS OPPONENT TURNING HIS HEAD, is a reaction and movement faster than light, you need to check yourself into a home. God I hate Death Battle.

[@johnnyjoot5106]

I mean its purely fictional so

[@AnixCo1990]

Yammy “beating” ichigo was due to white ichigo or his hollow. Interfering during the fight, he basically froze him in place. Even if Yammy became number “0” I’m sure ichigo would’ve gone full hollow. And soundly defeat him, and he’s not as powerful at that point in time. As chad once said before yammy released, he was clearly larger than the first time they “fought”.

[@juggram_99]

thats what im saying. Yammy is too weak, base form gets beat the shit out against first bankai ichigo. Same goes when Yami uses his Resurreccion and could get his ass beaten by the second Hollow mask + bankai ichigo. I always thought that probably from Espada 6 to 1 can solo Yammy because of how shitty his transformation is

[@mult1versal]

but the fact that a random arrancar forced ichigo to go bankai AFTER he had controlled zangetsu (white ichigo) kinda disproves that also

[@juggram_99]

@@mult1versal you mean the fight with Ebern? If that is the case, i dont really think that he went Bankai because he was struggling with him, instead he wanted to see why he was provoking him to activate Bankai (which is a dumb decision btw). I wouldn't see Ichigo struggling against Ebern with shikai

[@omagioproyesyes]

yammy might not be as strong as ichigo (wich he clearly isnt) but he deff beats kakuzu now lets think logicly even if he doesnt uses his *0* form he has his resurection that can trasnform into 1,2,3... etc and 0 was his best form now we dont know his other forms but due to amount of stength he gained from that transformation easly beats kakuzu he can just stump him over over over and over

[@abdirauf6656]

It's just way too unfair for the akatsuki

[@meowbahhyt]

Deidara final move or just the invisible move one hits the espada they are city level fodder no statements

[@HExtraordinaire]

​@@meowbahhytdeidara couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag

[@DidntExpect]

@@meowbahhyt Deidara's final move couldn't even kill one of the summon snakes

[@gottesurteil3201]

​@@meowbahhyt Deidara's move could kill Espadas 9-7 if I'm being generous. The rest tank it, and unfortunately Espada 7 I believe is fast enough to escape the blast zone with his sonido.

[@ook0186]

@@gottesurteil3201any of the espada are destroying deidara be real bro

[@oneepicsans3530]

fun fact: in the fear your own world novels(which are cannon since kubo supervised and worked on them) stated vasto lorde ichigos grand cero has a blast radius of 46,000,000km3 (cubic meters) that means with one blast ichigo is blowing away our entire solar system

[@anusaukko6792]

You're misunderstanding something, you cant suddenly jump up like 30 tiers lmfao

[@kevwedickson6353]

@@anusaukko6792explain

[@Maliciovo]

Espada can't be seen by normal humans, so yeah...good luck hitting something you can’t see. Sure, the sharingan or rinnegan might work to see spirits, but it won't be enough. Let's not also forget all the Espada have Hierro. They also have internal power detection with pisquesa, or whatever it's called. The only one with any chances could be tobi with his intangibility, but yeah...this is a team wipe. The only chance the akatsuki have is if they have any form of attacks that can even harm the espada lmao

[@meowbahhyt]

Doesn't matter itachi susanoo is invincible and itachi genjutsu the fodder plus sharingan can see Akatsuki solo

[@JamezWalker668]

@@meowbahhyt A. No it's not. B. Genjutsu will not work on beings from another reality, made of spiritual particals that don't exist in the Naruto verse, and you need reiatsu to see Bleach characters. Akatsuki loose and loose badly.

[@JamezWalker668]

Only rinnegan has soul based abilities, but without reiatsu, they aint seeing shit.

[@vegetatheplayer3266]

@@JamezWalker668 Ordinary genjutsu yes. But the Mangekyo Sharingan's genjutsu is different.

[@bootlegspinjutsu9966]

Ulquiorra: Lanzo del Relampago The Akatsuki: "Well fuck"

[@julianuga]

The top 4 espada could each solo the akatsuki. Maybe even the top 6. The espada working as a unit leaves the akatsuki with zero chance

[@procow2274]

You actually down played Ulquiorra. His first release alone is a X10 multiplier his second one is probably around 100. He also has very impressive regen abilities and has 2 attacks at least above the level of gran rey cero

[@theotakuoftime6465]

I mean I’m totally on the bleach train and that Ulquiorra is probably down played but we don’t have any concert multiplier since he’s the only one with a second release so his accessment is fair just to make things straight forward

[@procow2274]

@@theotakuoftime6465 maybe but again if his first is already 10 ish even if the second one is less significant 10 times base for the second form doesn't add up. In just the second state he went from potentially being at a disadvantage against bankai hollowfied ichigo to completely outclassing him to the point where he was able to stave off his strongest attack with just his aura. Even if he was actively shielding himself its still a very impressive increase and if second release is just a 5 times modifier or so thats still 50 times base at least not to mention the attacks he has that even if we dont have exact numbers on are stated to be above cero gran rey

[@meowbahhyt]

Itachi negs with susanoo no matter how strong Ulquiorra is plus his lanza has bad accuracy

[@Ralffy1]

It seemed like he was also saying that the 1-3 Esparza are stronger than ulq 2nd resurrection which is just wrong, but the conclusion is the same either way

[@smoldynastyrucoy4220]

lanza del relemplago is basically soifons bankai but not limited and way bigger and he can spam it infinitely and it also can be used as a lance/sword lol he's broken af

[@petryonfire05]

One getsuga tensho and all of them dead

[@MotobeizouMotobeizou]

Even grimmjow with his Team would solo the Entire Akatsuki

[@thenewmemesman1986]

Bro you forgot that genjutsu doesnt effect souls it effects your sense organs so none of the genjustus can used to espadas (they are soul type live beings) And you can only use genjutsu to someone that has chakra And bro ulqiorra literary out haxes ichigo(fake bankai+mask) he can just solo the whole Akatsuki.

[@Bruhzo]

What Naruto fan thought this was debatable?💀

[@massimilianoreali4398]

The one that say that naruto is universal and beyond

[@nestor1526]

To be fair, it also depends on the match up. Most of this were bad match ups for the akatsuki. For example, If it was yammy vs sasori, I'd give it to yammy. But if it were yammy vs Itachi, I'd give it to Itachi.

[@meowbahhyt]

Akatsuki solo the city level espada feats are what matters

[@twisterdcupcake6556]

@@meowbahhytif you watch the vid, the Lanza of ulquiora is literally a nuclear bomb, he throw one like super far past los noches and everyone above it still felt the wind and stuff of ot

[@HExtraordinaire]

​@@meowbahhytthis person here, but they're a troll, so no one really

[@synatic8663]

Bro all these fan boys saying genjutsu works on bleach characters lmao bleach characters doesnt even have chakra MEANING THEY DONT WORK if we are using same logic then every bleach character with spiritual pressure could vaporizers or even paralyze their opponent 😂

[@corruptangel6793]

Stark has two souls. Even if Obito used Genjutsu, Lillynette should be able to break him out. And that's assuming Genjutsu would work at all. Forget about eyes, Rez Barragan has no brain and would age Itachi's chakra out of existence before it could enter his eye holes. In Base, we're assuming Genjutsu would reach him and affect him before Itachi runs out of chakra. Zommari with equal stats would still be far, far faster, and untouchable to Sasori. Sonido is similar in speed to Shunpo, and Shunpo allows the user to "move large distances near instantaneously with a single step." Meaning even if they were equal in stats, Zommari would still be able to create 5 copies of himself who move near instantaneously to Sasori's perception. He'd get impaled and killed the same way Zommari tried to do to Byakuya.

[@anamaliablack9348]

Lmao it takes Espada to cough and the Akatsuki would be dead.

[@thecrimsonscaredfacemasked4422]

No you're actually stupid if you believe someone that's not planetary can even touch pts Naruto

[@skyrex1458]

@@thecrimsonscaredfacemasked4422 ulq s fart > naru verse

[@CloudDieStrifende]

​@@thecrimsonscaredfacemasked4422bro all of them are atleast multi Continental plus way faster than any Naruto char plus their much stronger hax

[@Akshaydjam]

This is so true. Akatsuki stands no chance against Espada. A lot of these arguments start because some people can't accept that Naruto has way better written characters than Bleach. So there is a lot of Ego clash.

[@NEONlights-lb8um]

Grimmjow tanks deidara's nuke. And even if he doesn't, he simply outruns the blast. Bleach characters actually have quick movement and travel speeds while Naruto characters except (Naruto, the raikages and end of series Sasuke) have more of reaction speeds. Also, you're severely underrating the espadas sensory abilities. Deidara's cellular bombs won't be useful against Grimmjow because hollows and soul reapers can literally see spiritual particles even when they're blind. Ichigo did it when Ginjo blinded him, and Lille Barro also does this. He doesn't use his eyes to aim his shots, he uses his spiritual senses. That's also why Genjutsu is useless against soul reapers and hollows

[@jahtheplug.no5021]

Bro please don’t ever say that pains chibaku tensei is continental no tf it’s not😂 it’s not even close to the size of a full country

[@DarkTemple34]

Naruto is universal

[@Marco-qy6bm]

@@DarkTemple34naruto is planetary in final valley fight and multi planetary- solar sistem when he’s an adult at best

[@DarkTemple34]

@@Marco-qy6bm We can debate on that drop your discord

[@Marco-qy6bm]

@@DarkTemple34 it’s not a debate, it depends if your using lower or highter end scaling, your using hight end scaling but I prefer using lower end scaling.

[@DarkTemple34]

@@Marco-qy6bm Not really I think universal isn’t higher end, drop your disc

[@rubentidey9622]

Can I just throw out there that when using the real stats the Espada just wash the akatsuki hands down with basically no challenge. Like if you have to downgrade one side and give all the benefits to the other and they still bottomed out then it wasn't a fight from the jump.

[@BMCKINN7]

Hidan is about shoebox level

[@Narcissistic_pyschotic]

lol

[@meowbahhyt]

Ulquiorra strongest move is weaker than Deidara final move Akatsuki solo

[@naraydaniels7832]

@@meowbahhyt you mean the Lanza del Relámpago? I mean maybe the explosion distance is less but he can throw them out like singles in a strip club Deidara can do that ONCE.

[@naraydaniels7832]

@spidebot3045 yeah I just realized that thanks dude

[@BMCKINN7]

@@meowbahhyt bless your heart 😚

[@fwtens203]

To make it worse for the Akatsuki they can't even see them💀

[@RXGEsaysdontkys]

Pffff I completely forgot about that

[@Jairaid]

1:34 correction,yammi only destroyed ichigo because intervention from his inner hollow

[@Mrgraduation]

It really isn’t close, as at this point in Bleach the Average Arrancar are MUCH Faster than Light while besides the big 3 of the Akatsuki, they ain’t even close Edit-BTW Tylearned got so so so much shit wrong ab Naruto and I won’t fault Him too much bc I don’t think he knows it very well but man, He downplayed tf out of a lot of Akatsuki members and was blatantly wrong about some things The Espada do absolutely crush them though and it isn’t close

[@devilgod4552]

There are calc for Kid naruto characters reach light speed

[@MythicShadow04]

@@devilgod4552 None of which make sense, since every one's go to for Kid Naruto characters to get to light speed is mainly based off of Haku, and Sasuke was keeping up with him and began to predict and react to where Haku was going next even before he turned on his Sharingan, which at that point in the story he only had three tomoe total, one in one eye and two in the other

[@devilgod4552]

@@MythicShadow04 I am not talking about Haku since, there are many hints saying Haku was going easy on them, 6 year old Gaara auto defense sand speed reached mach 29, chunin exam Bass rock lee surpass that speed, Bass lee reach mach 29, Each gate of eight inner gate has 5× multiplyer, makeing 5th gate lee 29×5×5×5×5×5= mach 90,625, Chunin exam sasuke > Chunin exams Lee, the sound 4 Ninja send by Oruchimaru was able to stomped this sasuke in their Bass, and then they had Curse mark which gives at least 10×, Making full power sound 4 Ninja reach 10×90,625= mach 906,250 (speed of light is Mach 874,030.49), final valley kid Naruto and kid sasuke > full power sound 4 Ninja

[@MythicShadow04]

@@devilgod4552 hold up, where did you get Mach 29 for Gaara's defense ?

[@ybstvrm]

@@devilgod4552where did Mach 29 even come from because the whole fight was visible by the human eye and most people there could see what dhappenung

[@Bear-kb4kt]

Genjutsu does not on bleach characters even if you wanna say reiatsu = chakra Both characters internal power systems work differently, while chakra flows throughout the body, reiatsu constantly is flowing out, they have reiatsu vents on their body constantly releasing it, hence why some characters have a distinct Prescence (Yamma, ichigo, kenpachi)

[@kirocantsee]

Dude thats like saying spiritual pressure dosent work on naruto characters

[@Bear-kb4kt]

@@kirocantsee elaborate

[@kirocantsee]

@@Bear-kb4kt you would need verse equalization when debating 2 people, so genjutsu would have to work, the espada still win but i wanna point that out

[@Bear-kb4kt]

@@kirocantsee verse equalization is simply just Reistsu=Chakra. Doesn't take into effect how the actual abilities themselves work, those stay the same, the way Genjutsu works is flawed as the way bleach characters bodies work passively counteract the very measures it works. Just like how Aizens KS works on humans/arancar/Quincy etc.. regardless of their race as it works 100% differently from Genjutsu

[@stine4132]

you know what's funny actually? Genjutsu wouldn't work on Starrk because he's basically a Jinchuriki, he's got Lilynette to go "Hey, wake your dumb ass up"

[@frig7014]

I think minor thing that comes up in the ulqiorra v pain matchup is that the bodies of pain aren't alive and don't have souls with which to get corrupted by hollow energy, so maybe using chakra absorption on something like a cero doesn't really affect pain that much.

[@combatlightning9481]

Honestly that's the most accurate I've seen from someone making this controversial topic

[@king_Jude]

Forgot to mention the espadas herro, which is their natural resistance that none of the Akatsuki can even cut... They can't even damage the espada... Lol

[@LoganWH8]

Even if Itachi’s Genjutsu lands, unless it’s something truly eternal, Barragan’s Respira will still age it out of existence. Kido is essentially the same thing as jutsu, and Barragan could age Kido out of existence just as well as physical matter. A Kido barrier constructed by one of if not the greatest Kido masters using four seperate, massive spells, which under normal circumstances would’ve sealed away almost any opponent for hundreds if not thousands of years deteriorated to nothing in under a minute. So if the Genjutsu has a time limit, Barragan would just decay through it in seconds.

[@alphawolf7417]

Even if Respira couldn't age Genjutsu, Barragan still wins because he's always generating Respira. Even if Itachi can seal Barragan's mind, he can't damage Barragan's physical body. Meaning Itachi would either keep attacking and failing with Amaterasu and Susanoo until he runs out of Chakra and dies, or he'd keep Barragan in a genjutsu....until he runs out of Chakra and dies.

[@Slash_to_your_heart]

​@@alphawolf7417itachi cant both keep a genjutsu like tsukiyomi and attack though..and anything else shouldnt even be mentioned since barry the skeleton can blow it all away like nothing. From itachis perspective,the genjutsu would still be done in the time it takes him to blink.

[@georgewashington1034]

Just a note,even if obito uses genjutsu on stark,stark is 2 different entities in one,so lilinet could potentially break stark out of the genjutsu.even if she doesn't,the wolves could probably solo obito

[@devilgod4552]

3 tails junjuriki also had that but Obito still put him under gengutsu and control him, in Gara rescue arc lady chieo suggest that statergy and Kakashi say it's not going to work

[@Theligmaguy]

@@devilgod4552ok so genjutsu doesnt work if you don’t have chakra because it manipulates it and secondly lilinette was a different body to stark when he did the wolves

[@devilgod4552]

@@Theligmaguy Sharingan user can implant their own chakra inside his opponent, that limitation is only for low level genjutsu, 2nd having different body is not enough you should have different soul too,

[@Dansuperfly]

First of all, espada happen to be SPIRITS. Unless any of the akatsuki suddenly become able to hit spirits with their little kunai and sht, that's an impossible fight. Second. Average speeds in bleach are already out of hand. There's a reason Sasuke's kirin is impossible to dodge. It's a fcking lightning comming down on you. The same speed Ichigo is casually moving at in bankai form against Byakuya. Mind you this speed is just the tip of the iceberg and is nowhere near, not even close, to that of the top tier espada. As far as I know, the only one who's ever surpassed such speed is Guy himself, and what did that do to him? And if they ever somehow manage to make phisical contact with them, they still have to deal with hierro, which can end up hurting them instead just like Yoruichi when beatting Yammi up. Even while trying to rationalize it, it's still sad. Not because the akatsuki are weak, but because they're entirely different creatures altogether. An actual proper match would be the akatsuki vs the fullbringers 😂

[@BirdsBestAnimal]

Can we agree that Bleach's powerscale is way beyond Naruto and One Piece?

[@sting0262]

No

[@marcoslightspeed5517]

its not

[@SoyElBrokas]

Yes it is by way too much basically luffy is city level at best (he can destroy a islan evemtually but it will take time) naruto is islan level (he can destroy a continent eventually) but in bleach how big a explosion can you make stoped been relevant a long time ago (specifically the battle in fake karakura town) because they can basically alter some aspect of reality , the laws of physics or souls.

[@nestor1526]

Kubo it terrible at power scaling. When Ichigo first introduced his bankai, he absolutely blitzed Byakuya in terms of speed. Because that was the main power of his bankai. Then when it came to introduce Grimmjow, he called Ichigo's speed nothing but average for arrancars and then beat the crap out of him. Then when it came to the main battle, All the capains were apparently on level with the arrancars speed and had no problem keeping up with them. (at this point I sometimes wondered what Ichigo's bankai even did exactly.) I understand the Kubo just wanted to highlight the threat of the arrancars but this was just a bad way to go about it.

[@meowbahhyt]

Akatsuki and Naruto solo bleach

[@kodxchi6812]

Ok, so what if starkk just spams nuclear level ceros in his segunda. I mean even Juubito cannot do anything.

[@meowbahhyt]

Juubito solos Bleachverse. Each stark cero was like building level lol bleach verse is not strong except like the top Quincy abilities

[@blazingdragonwolf6771]

@@meowbahhyt I'm reporting you for spamming, you disguting spammer.

[@seanbrown7083]

@@meowbahhytjuubito isn’t beating yhwach but ok

[@PowerAids]

@@meowbahhyt juubito doesn't get past shikai yamamoto genryusai, and yamamoto using his bankai would just be fucking unfair

[@kodxchi6812]

@@meowbahhyt Stark's in his first release has 2 guns, one fires like a machine gun while others fires bigger cero's. In his segunda his abilities are amped and he has the wolf thing(I forgot the name). Each of his attacks are FTL+ and certainly not building level. Even if they are, imagine thousands of those ceros constantly raining hell on the battlefield while his opponents are constantly pressured.

[@stormbear22]

One thing that people don't realize with Bleach vs stuff is that in bleach you can't shake the whole of planet earth with the little bit of your energy leaking out then you are considered a ant, a basic human citizen. In Naruto we have just gotten to Gods and even those Gods aren't really Gods but just very advanced and powerful aliens while Bleach episode one Ichigo became God level and not even half way through the show he was stated to be a strong as the those God's king who can see all and do all. Also to compare the weakest ability in Naruto to the weakest ability in bleach, in Naruto the weakest ability would stuff like substitution, chrakra walking, and some elemental type stuff while the strongest abilities are soul attacks, reality altering, and dimensional movement. In bleach the weakest abilities are soul attacks, reality altering, and dimensional movement while their strongest attacks are dominion over fate, the literal power of Hope, dominion over the scales of luck, creating multiple infinite dimension as a by product of existing(without trying), the power of wishing, imagination, freezing the concept of Hope, and having to hold back or else they erase multiple infinite dimensions just breathing.

[@adam74bes35]

creating multiple infinite dimension as a by product of existing(without trying, having to hold back or else they erase multiple infinite dimensions just breathing bro what bleach are you watching

[@mrpinkfreak4168]

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[@camshep7145]

If you really think the akakski can beat the espade you obviously never watched bleached. Uquiora (however you spell it) alone could wipe out most of them

[@claudiolorenzon8547]

Also about the barragan thing, he can just use the respira barrier, which is just around him all the time, meaning the subconscious one makes him near immortal to jutsus in any way

[@ZDragonight159]

I think people tend to forget that post-soul society Ichigo was weaker than soul society ichigo, this is because after soul society he got the substitute soul reaper badge which is known to be used for surveillance and to supress his power lol

[@silverdragon5054]

Lilynette becomes a sentient gun that screams that also has no eyes. Now unless its a deep genjutsu like the one obito placed on the third mizukage. Lilynette would more than likely be able to free him. Also again she's a sentient gun that can firely fire on her own

[@fishtonk5506]

espada any day of the week just cause they can revive themselves without a huge cost (resureccion) and ulliqora's segunda etapa also SKYWALK

[@SwiftSpeedVortex]

3:18 it’s not called a second resurrection it’s called segunda which means bankai in Spanish Every espada can access it but ulq keep the knowledge of obtaining it from others

[@freshuchiha2576]

These are fights I’ve thought about in my head for years now. Almost exact matchups only difference in matchups is having Nnoitra face up with Hidan (battle of the scythes)

[@EnfermeiroPensador]

Yes, good analysis. People in Naruto are powerful but compared to the espadas it's a complete joke. And I will go further, Ulquiorra (with ressureccion segunda etapa and/or Lanza del Relampago), Stark (with cero metrallera) and Barragan (with Respira) can wipe the whole cast of Naruto alone. Each one of them. They don't even need to team up.

[@SOSGaming404]

The in universe equivalent, the Otsutsuki, would most likely be able to wipe the floor with the Akatsuki. The Akatsuki do not scale well when against god level threats. And every Espada can be considered as such.

[@meowbahhyt]

City level fodders the espada are the Akatsuki slam feats over statements

[@denizen5764]

​@meowbahhyt the butthurt is on another level

[@nitrobladezxl2994]

@@denizen5764 yeah you can see that clown in half the other comments here. "Unfair for the espada because itachi solos" lmao narutards are funny

[@PowerAids]

@@meowbahhyt there are no city fodder level espada, we don't see them all use it, but we're told that every espada has access to grand ray cero, which can destroy las noches, which the inside of it is MINIMUM a continent

[@Andreeeeey]

​@@meowbahhytbro forgot about Gran Rey Cero, and that it is prohibited use inside Las Noches because Gran Rey Cero from Higher Espadas can literally nuke a fortress as huge as a country💀

[@hunnavhunna]

You were trying too hard to give the Akatsuki a chance lol. Yami got hit with concrete melting poison. Itachi would get aged before attempting genjutsu imo, Grimmjow washes Deidara in equal and unequal stats. and even having to equalize the stats shows it’s even more of a wash than you make it seem

[@Orizln]

i got a question, so for example when people say equal stats gojo vs goku wouldnt gokus transformations just make him far above the equal stats? or do they just not do anything to increase his strength thats always been a question for me

[@tiosevenstars]

Equal stats would turn goku into his world tournament self, where he fights with martial arts instead of powering up. Not sure if he has anything to penetrate infinity tho.. maybe ki being positive energy equals to rct, and thus cancels out curse energy?

[@virginactivity2977]

Equal stats is just a excuse for niggas to say their character wins, why would I need to nerf my character down to your characters level if that would just give your character the advantage as my character loses multiple powers

[@tiosevenstars]

@@virginactivity2977 Technically this is fiction, so they can do that just for self-satisfaction lol. The fun of imaginary cross over battles is to make up a fun scenario where the result satisfy the one who brought it up

[@mediocri5y]

​@@virginactivity2977 in my opinion it should only be used to ignore things like spiritual pressure on bleach so other characters can actually u know fight.........for like five seconds before ulqs starts spamming nukes

[@galacticdragon9785]

Most of the people in the akatsuki aren’t even strong, the idea that they would be able to beat the espada is frankly outrageous

[@weebtoonplays]

If you are not being hell biased than you have to admit that Akatsukis are no math infront of the Espadas

[@hypnoticrobotgaming]

bro the akatsuki cant even see the espada

[@bubblegumwarrior6731]

This is a pointless argument as anyone who actually knows what their talking about knows the Espada will win, this is a pointless debate.

[@smoldynastyrucoy4220]

nnoitra had the hardest skin of the espada and was matched against kenpachi a very bad fight for him and even he couldn't cut him without full strength so even with equal stats konan couldn't do much to him

[@meowbahhyt]

Deidara microscopic moves one hit the espada duraneg plus he has bigger Dc feats

[@ethan1441]

@meowbahhyt bro you can keep inhaleing your copium and claim akatsuki win. But keep your delusions to your self? Because literally no one cares.

[@PowerAids]

@@meowbahhyt how butthurt you gotta be to even think that . Lanza del Relámpago is litterally a nuke but like able to become infinitely stronger if ulquiorra used alot of cero oscuras, also base form ulquiorra Lanza del Relámpago without using any oscuras can wipe out the akatsuki as a whole

[@shadow3875]

Even with how specicaly itachis genjustu works, it wouldnt work on barragan because he's essientaly immortal and would be able to handle the information overload. Not only that itachi has no way to capatalise on him even if he's stuck under the genjutsus effects considering barragans ageing aura wouldnt go away while genjustused

[@devilgod4552]

Being immortal don't mean he can handle Infinite information and those information are not any random information, it torture his opponent to the point when mind is no longer intact

[@Slash_to_your_heart]

​@devilgod4552 its not infinite though? At max it is a lifetime. At worse it is 3 days. It is tsukiyomi. Not infinite tsukiyomi. Not unlimited void.

[@shadow3875]

@Arb_Sallaku not to argue against myself, but in the light novel, itachi makes is girlfriend live her Intire light in the span of three secounds, causing information overload

[@Slash_to_your_heart]

@@shadow3875 yes. A lifespan. What i said. That can still be burnt away. If we are assuming that nin/gen works like kido (otherwise it wouldnt even work because the other scenario is that our skelly has no chakra and thus cant have it molded by someone),he can do to it the same he does to attacks he "touches". One guy mentioned how he literally killed a barrier seal that was supposed to seal someone for thousands of years from the strongest kido user. I dont exactly remember because my mind is muddled by loads of fanon,but realistically,even with equal stats(which they do not have,i mean cmmon,his base is an anti country(maybe continent) minimum with a X10 multiplier and a literal death beam.) It would mean that itachi has to bypass the most hax ability since...well the other hax abilities. (I also would like to say that i still feel like that lifetime shit was bullshitery because it should have also hit itachi really fucking hard.)

[@shadow3875]

@@Slash_to_your_heart Not to mention, barragan could probably age the chakra to nothing before it get's through his shroud. Because chakra has to travel a distance.

[@diegorodriguez8006]

The thing is the Naruto fan base is a fan base that honestly thinks Naruto can beat Marvel high tiers.

[@Rikoyasha15]

I think Itachis Amatarsu vs. Baraagans decay would be interesting. Since Akatsuki were the underdogs, thought the Akatsuki should be at their healthiest and strongest versions wither or not they were at the point while being in the Akatsuki

[@corruptangel6793]

Well, then it wouldn't be Akatsuki vs Espada.

[@BMCKINN7]

@@corruptangel6793 you must be fun at parties😒

[@hyperlance8732]

I wouldn't call it interesting only because the flames literally can't ever be put out. There literally design to burn anything so it's safe to assume it would burn away barragans decay ability and if not that it would burn away the reiastu the attack is made from and for proof at the reiastu being destroyed u can just look at Yama whose flames are as hot as the sun were able to burn the soul society which is completely made of condensed reiastu so something like amaterasu which is even hotter than yamas flames it's safe to say it could do the same shit

[@meowbahhyt]

The Akatsuki solo Espada neg diff funny how there is no country level Espada feats only city

[@corruptangel6793]

@@meowbahhyt because the Espada aren't wasteful with their power. The only reason Ulquiorra's Lanza Del Relampago was so huge, for example, was because he couldn't control it. In Bleach, all abilities are honed to a point for maximum lethality. In other words, what you see is quite literally the absolute minimum of what they can do scale wise while the density of that attack is astronomical. It's lime Ki control in Dragon Ball

[@calilaployploy2827]

Stark is kind of like Jinchuriki, because if he falls on genjutsu lilinett can wake him up. Also if he's put into kamui dimension he can just open the garganta and flee. And obito wound have to esencially be intangible forever because he can spam ceros for ever. Also grimmjow doesnt have to worry about deidara flying. Not only he can fly but between the ceros and the desgarrón he has an incredible long range attack.

[@lunatic-k5209]

Espada might not have teamwork but when you’re this powerful teamwork isn’t that necessary

[@meowbahhyt]

Akatsuki solo Espada get them over city with feats not statements

[@lunatic-k5209]

@@meowbahhyt sure bubby tell yourself whatever make you feel better

[@meowbahhyt]

Talking about yourself I see get Espada over Deidara final move first impossible challenge

[@lunatic-k5209]

@@meowbahhyt I don’t need to argue to know I’m right, cope seethe and mald all you like

[@meowbahhyt]

What scan proves you right? Lol

[@black-x-sage]

I hate when people downplay bleach feats so I’m happy to see people accurately scaling bleach

[@meowbahhyt]

Bleach caps at meteor and mountain feats there is no downplay Akatsuki solo the verse

[@greenapples1149]

True. It's like they read and watch Bleach with their eyes closed.

[@25i428]

Since I suck at scaling, lemme just add on something minor that would favor the espada even more. Their sonido Sonido as a movement ability dosent rely on reiatsu like hirenkyaku or shunpo, instead relying on brute force methods to reach those speeds which is why its been shown that bleach characters who track opponents using their reiatsu often feel like people who utilise sonido "disappear" from their radar which would force all the akatsuki to track the espada using conventional senses more often than not which would be detrimental to their already losing side

[@kaiokentimes00]

We gonna need that Warlords Vs Espada video ngl

[@fayyyyyyde]

equal stats would be interesting but espada scale higher

[@betapchoilol1531]

@@fayyyyyydehow can equal stats be interesting, the espada has hundreds years of experiences with their techniques, plus hax still exist so barragan just negs all

[@lo4tr]

That video is 2 minutes long. Any one of the Espada show up and tank the Warlords while the rest sit back and sip tea with Aizen.

[@sancho004]

@@lo4tr2 minutes?😂......I guess you do have to include time for an ad😂

[@HExtraordinaire]

It's just gonna be a repeat

[@yashmehta4087]

Comparing bleach and Naruto in power is ridiculous They have huge power system and Concepts gap

[@LucieKosu]

1 minute in and the scaling falls apart, you forget that post-soul society Ichigo is actually much WEAKER than the one at the end of soul society arc because of his badge so that Ichigo would definetly fold Yammy with ease... I still believe the outcome you presented is correct tho

[@antonioaguera4580]

Actually, considering Itachis Genjutsu powers are eerily comparable to Aizen's I would give the win to Itachi. As Barragan got duped already before by Aizen's hypnosis. Also, gran rey zero might warp space, but Stark just shoots regular Zeros, fyi. The real danger to Tobi is the Spirit Bomb wolves Stark can use.

[@r.block.3658]

Comparable but worse by a mile the espada aren’t following aizen because of his kyoka it’s because he could Meg them at any moment

[@joaovictorsilvestre5933]

Ur comparing genjutsu to kyoka? Are you insane?

[@antonioaguera4580]

@joaovictorsilvestre5933 Are you high? Both affect the mind, is all am saying. Barragan is susceptible to mind tricks

[@greenapples1149]

Itachi's Genjutsu is comparable to Kyoka Suigetsu? That's quite insulting because it absolutely isn't.

[@neagoegeorge8281]

Yes, espada wins hard against akatsuki. I just wanna say that Itachi is a bit underrated in your video. Considering that Aizen's illusions are op in Bleach, he beats Barragan in an instant. I think illusions are far better in Naruto's universe, especially Itachi's genjutsu. Even if Barragan has no eyes in Resurrection, Itachi's has Toutska blade (small reminder: Aizen was able to catch Barragan easily in Kyoka Suigetsu even in skeleton form so I believe Itachi has no problem to do it as well). It the genjustu doesn't work the quiestion is if the blade of Susanoo is able to bybass Barragan's Respira.

[@reitavijjatrivedi3213]

so you think itachi wins? no course not first of all barragan has a HUGEEEE pain resistance value and it itachi comes near barragan he will still age in genjutsu or not

[@alexisbaz8746]

KS makes Tsukoyomi look like a joke, and Barragan doesn't even have brain or eyes in his resurrected form.

[@__En__]

Aizen's abilities are OP because the only way you can counter is to either grab is sword or just try not to look before he activates it If you look once he controls all your senses with no time limit Genjutsu is broken pretty easily

[@asuraofwrath]

the reason why kyoka suigetsu worked was because its instant and activated as soon as the victim sees it we have no idea how genjutsu would work on a skeleton but assume it dose work it still wouldn't reach him resperias passive always generating mangekyo genjustu works bu putting your own chakra into someone meaning it travels stand gets aged to nothing before it can reach him andsimallerly his sussano can also be aged to nothing

[@Hollow_07]

It really really hurts when you watch a comparison of 2 animes that you love so much

[@kegeyou]

ulquiorra should be able to solo with mftl + speeds and spam a multi country level feat ability, i would scale him planetary with mftl on a highball but still he should solo the akatsuki

[@meowbahhyt]

Ulquiorra is city level with lanza he has no feats above that aizen and Ichigo were mountain level Ulquiorra can't be above that

[@ethan1441]

@mewobahhyt bro ap doesn’t matter. Because fun fact, ONLY ONE MEMBER CAN ACTUALLY FUCKING SEE THEM. THE FUCK CAN ANY OF THEM DO WHEN ONLY ONE MEMBER KNOWS THEY ARE THERE. JUST KILL THE PAINS AND BOOM.

[@kegeyou]

mutli continent level feats on base form + the segunda amp should be planetary@@meowbahhyt

[@SRVaris]

"i would scale him planetary with mftl on a highball " You can get Itachi Pain & Obito to these levels as well if were highballing

[@justtoolit6051]

Any of the Espada can solo the Akatsuki

[@cjcj4861]

No unfortunately the weakest members of the Espada would lose to some members of the Akatsuki this is be fair just because I like bleach doesn't mean I'm going to be bias towards Naruto

[@justtoolit6051]

@@cjcj4861 Im not biased lol. Espada 10 became Espada 0 and he’d solo the Akatsuki and epada 9 is now one of the strongest Espada LMAOOOO so yeah I’m right