Shaq agrees he's 4th best center behind Kareem, Wilt, Russell - Skip & Shannon I NBA I UNDISPUTED

[@TheFacilityonFS1]

Listen to State of the Union: sprtspod.fox/Lalas

[@Bobo_mo_Bro]

your media guys need to hurry up with these uploads.

[@jrcrashin4575]

Let the moderator Jenny I think is her name speak a little more, a couple laughs maybe ? Or atleast put her face on screen a little more. She earned a little screen time already

[@happyface35]

Wilt and Russel didn't have contemporaries most of their careers... However Russell had the leadership factor that wilt didn't... 1.Kareem 2.Russell 3.Shaq 4.Hakeem 5.Wilt

[@happyface35]

I have Kareem 2nd all time... 1.MJ 2.Kareem 3.Lebron 4.Russell 5.Magic 6.Shaq 7.Duncan 8.Kobe 9.Hakeem 10.Durrant

[@rigger49er]

Give me The Dream over all of them

[@kennedycalderone9608]

“Wilt took care of a lot of other people” Shannonnnnnn chill bro 😂😂😂😂

[@MrRetroswag]

"Thats how he stayed fit" lol Imagine Wilt like I don't run laps, just give me a woman for a hour

[@fdrstan]

@Versatile Wolf Wilt the stilt claimed to have slept with 20,000 women. Not buying it, but that is his claim.

[@Vito_Caligiuri]

@@MrRetroswag them women probably never walked again after that😂

[@kingghx5t74]

@@MrRetroswag choosing bun claps over run laps

[@zType2]

😂

[@7brucewayne7]

No center ever has a deeper bag than Hakeem in the post!

[@GigglewithFelix321]

Correct

[@wkdlama]

Kevin Mchale would like a word with you

[@nootherideas2000]

@@wkdlama center

[@antinapay]

@@wkdlama center my man

[@j5daniel182]

Hakeem 's actual height is closer to 6'9 - 6'10" but he had super long arms. He had to be super skilled to be successful.

[@fdrstan]

Hakeem “The Dream” was no joke.

[@phonechecked]

No more talented big man to ever play the game. God bless UNC for recognizing

[@JqlenB]

I’m taking Hakeem over Shaq. Shaqs ego apparently is too big to realize it. Shaq was one of the most dominant players ever but Hakeems game was just too skilled and was a treat to the eyes. Of course he’s earned his respect but Hakeem was the better player 1. Kareem 2. Wilt 3. Bill 4. Hakeem 5. Shaq

[@JourdanChaney]

Most underrated big man of all time

[@albertc2390]

To be fair, Shaq wasn't Shaq when he played Hakeem.

[@johnjackson7108]

When I saw this I was thinking 5th best. The Dream is before him even though Shaq got more chips.

[@chasejordan9295]

Skip doubting Wilt's self care when the man was like late 50's playing professional volleyball and was easily the best 7' athlete of all time, hilarious

[@MovieGuy666]

yeah he was one of the first players to lift weights and he was also great in track and field.

[@trapafuyah]

Lol you right chase

[@chasejordan9295]

@@MovieGuy666 Yea, watchin track vids from his youth is so weird, looks so unnatural yet does it with ease

[@terrybader8595]

He would run Shaq into the ground. Wilt averaged 48 minutes for an entire season!

[@ralphking425]

Wilt also ran a4.4 in the 40 at 7’1” 260 benched over 400 pounds in his 40’s had a 48 vertical. He still holds 72 NBA records

[@Papashaft]

“They changed the rules to stop me. And they still couldn’t.” - Wilt Chamberlain

[@_Gambitute]

Precisely. Even Bill Russell would admit Wilt was far more talented but Russell had so much more help around him and to Bills credit , he wasn’t as intimated of Wilt as most players of that era were . I hate that so many discredit Wilt with silly arguments like “he played against plumbers” Wilt Chamberlain was the Laurence Taylor of basketball at his peak . It’s still a team game in the end but Wilt was a physical specimen that most had no answer for

[@Abbad1579]

@@_Gambitute Wilt has literally admitted that Bill was better

[@_Gambitute]

@@Abbad1579 a better overall player yes but I meant to say Bill would admit Wilt was more talented than he was just from an athletic point of view. As I said , Wilt was just a freak athlete That being said , Bill was no slouch . Though shorter and weighing much less than Wilt , Bill Russell was extremely gifted in his own right as a rebounder and a shot blocker. I also believe thanks to Red Auerbachs tutelage Bill Russell had better work ethic as opposed to Wilt who just relied on his pure athleticism to succeed.

[@yeseloraelsama8949]

@@_Gambitute I think offensively wilts better but bill russels defensive playmaking/ individual defense literally put him close to being the greatest center and maybe even the greatest player of all time

[@seannkeshimana2176]

@Sazid _ He retired a season later. They were all old.

[@Peter-tg9zv]

I think Hakeem in his prime is the “best” most well rounded center ever, although he didn’t have as great a career as the others. He could shoot and guard the perimeter in P&R situations today. Really the only one without a weakness.

[@jordanflores5687]

Facts

[@baopham8676]

Yep, The Dream is definitely one of the best center ever. Every year he's top ten in five categories: steals, rebounds, blocked shots, scoring and shooting percentage. He was great on both end of the floor.

[@jakep1979]

Hakeem under today rules would run circles around Embiid.

[@jon-vegard8386]

He's my personal favorite. His skillset was insane, honestly unmatched. He's also one of the few who's won a championship with no second star

[@yunusoeztas]

U could argue for him as the greatest center ever....imagine him with a prime magic...or kobe...didnt talk about wilt and russel cause complete different sport

[@Guyton1824]

Russell/greatest winner Kareem/most acomplished Shaq,Wilt/most dominant Hakeem/most skilled

[@batmaneatspizza]

Yes

[@GigglewithFelix321]

Correct

[@avikaplan223]

Mutombo/ Greatest blocker

[@Terror832]

Laimbeer/most dirtiest Mourning/most intense Muresan/most ugliest

[@anthonymartinez2854]

@@avikaplan223 hakeem is the greatest shot blocker

[@ronf4308]

I would choose a prime Wilt Chamberlain. 50 points a game over an entire season. Never fouled out in his entire career. Average 24 rebounds a game. Great touch. Arnold Schwarzenegger called him the strongest man he ever met.

[@mikedineen7857]

Back then they didn’t count blocked shots. He blocked lots of shots.

[@slivovitz1683]

Michael olowokandi would have dominated that era

[@ajigijigi]

​@Mike Dineen it was said that he averaged 8.8 blocks in his twilight years now imagine in his prime and it was unofficially recorded 😳

[@slivovitz1683]

@@ajigijigi okay now imagine it was recorded on video and you could actually see how unimpressive everyone in the league was

[@ajigijigi]

@Slivovitz actually thats not the case fheir were alot of solid players back then obviously not as much talent as of today due to them having less teams but good competition nonetheless.

[@emojimr4427]

Shaq has so much respect for past big men I respect his humbleness

[@richardcorrea2181]

Fackts

[@jmthagoat]

But hates on the new ones😅 other than akumpo

[@darionblack4434]

his dad was a big fan of those bigs

[@newthrash1221]

@@jmthagoat That’s because there are no more true centers..at least not like there were. The rules and game have changed to favor shooting. Put any top 20 center in this league now with the same rules as 15-20 years ago, a lot of teams playing very well today would have a hard time.

[@itsyourenotyour9101]

Humbleness and Shaq don't work. He respects his elders, he's far from humble.

[@mr2goode580]

"He stayed FIT that way" Skip funny asf 🤣😂

[@UnexpectedWonder]

😁😁🤣🤣🤣

[@MrGenexxx]

I'm surprised Jenny didn't attack him for those words 😂

[@rickygill661]

@Icewulf she definitely needs it. When a woman that pent up, she sending out signals, she need the pipe to make her act right

[@derrellbrown7317]

@Icewulf yoo💀

[@erics9754]

Skip is funny but ignorant about Wilt and a person in his field or work has no excuse for that. Stop being such a Shaq fan boy it's like he has a man crush on him and can not be unbiased.

[@nickfowler547]

Hakeem is the most complete center to ever play

[@windowpainzplays8601]

no thats wilt then kareem

[@Yoaneemmanuel]

@@windowpainzplays8601 cap, it’s Hakeem

[@blackjesus6433]

Wilt

[@samuelhernandezaguero8845]

@@Yoaneemmanuel it's Kareem

[@Lefthook-poweroff]

@@windowpainzplays8601 idk I think Hakeem and Kareem the most complete

[@koolk2115]

People forget that Wilt was also a Decathlon competing athlete. Insane!

[@datsapaddlin6449]

Wilt Hakeem and Kareem are 3 players that should be talked about way more. They were crazy great on both ends and would be great even today.

[@100navat]

And Bill Russel

[@troyh.2024]

Wilt, Bill, & Kareem You Meant😂

[@fundy023]

Wilt wouldn't score as much simply because the lane is wider. It used to be narrower and he could camp almost under the rim. And with his superior length, jumping, and athletic ability it just wasn't fair. I think he'd average 30 but no way he's averaging 40+

[@datsapaddlin6449]

@@fundy023 30 means he would still be a super star. He would still be a double double machine.

[@datsapaddlin6449]

@@troyh.2024 I meant what I said lol

[@NOB6677]

“People don’t realize how great kareem was” absolute facts

[@JonReynoldsESQ]

@@Ali-fo4uv Kareem averaged 27 pts, 18.5 reb, and 2.5 blk in his first Finals MVP. And 26.6pts, 8.1reb, 4.4 ast, and 2.1blk in his second Finals MVP.

[@faqjail4968]

@@Ali-fo4uv You dont know greatness Im not the biggest fan on kareem but calling him overrated? Damn you are down bad

[@faqjail4968]

@@Ali-fo4uv 6 mvps he had help in the finals yes but that doesnt make him overrated

[@SILMANTV]

@@Ali-fo4uv u trippin bout the overrated part by the time he got to the 80s and was old that's what ur looking at for ur averages he woulda had 3 fmvps if not for the injury don't use old age and averages to show ur ignorance nobody here with any sense will agree with u kuz we Kno better 6 rings 6 MVPs 2 fmvps Playoffs averages in his prime from 70-86 which is pushing the end of his prime really he was 27-12-4 just say ur a casual Just kuz a player didn't win every year don't make em overrated u need to change ur statement Kareem is 1-3 all time u can't find many players with his resume really only 1 or 2 ish in his prime he won a ring in the 70s then 80s with magic and was old and still balling at a high level

[@Bonescratcher]

@@Ali-fo4uv overrated? They won 5 rings together and they are overrated. Sure kid By the way, you do know that Andre Iguodala won FMVP over Steph curry right? So Steph is overrated too in your opinion?

[@CycleCruza]

If only Shaq could have made his free throws.

[@202One]

Took care of his body..!

[@feliciaboateng9212]

Wilt also

[@kuunami]

If Shaq made his free throws and took care of his body he would have averaged 40 in his career and had more rings.

[@timsmith1033]

And stayed in shape, and motivated. Shaq would be a top 3 player all team

[@superpro1thomas858]

Kobe said it best: If he was commited and had a similar work ethic as me he would be the greatest of all time

[@Swervooooooo]

Hakeem deserves so much more respect man

[@ShangoDC]

Kareem is arguably the greatest player ever. His career body of work including winning speaks for itself.

[@chiefxx8259]

Yes ! Highschool, college, and pro. Unstoppable offense, blocked shots ! All time NBA leading scorer, and 6 time MVP ! Also a civil rights icon. Stood with Ali, Jim Brown, and Malcom X.

[@JumboWiniata]

Not when playing Wilt

[@ShangoDC]

@@JumboWiniata Well he out played Wilt, but Wilt was beyond his prime.

[@brother-dre]

agreed

[@kevinhurston1555]

He wasn't even the best player on his own team for half his career

[@ribertorbet5304]

There's an interview with Phil Jackson and they ask him who was better, Shaq or Wilt. He said they were both amazing but Wilt was more athletic and skilled than Shaq. He played against Wilt and coached Shaq.

[@ericstrat3579]

Also commented on how incredibly strong Wilt was….

[@jeffdougherty9010]

@monsoon season Way more strength too

[@MrSuperman957]

Facts. Wilt was actually stronger than pretty much anyone else in NBA history including Shaq.

[@isaiahturner7031]

He wouldn't really know without playing against both. There's always a debate but the fact will always remain if they didn't play the exact same players on the same teams in the same era you can't really say who's better. Same goes for lebron and Jordan folks forger LeBron was dominating as a teenager in a tougher era but then will say a bigger stronger adult lebron wouldnt make it in Jordan's era foh

[@saverioman]

He also told a funny story where Shaq asked him to play as many minutes as Wilt played (Shaq averaged 33 minutes a game, Wilt averaged 45). Jackson said that experiment did not last long!

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Wilt actually blocked the Sky Hook twice in the same play lol, this depends a lot on what you value most, achievements is Kareem, Championships is Russell, individual stats is Wilt, unstoppable force is Shaq, most skilled is Hakeem, so it all depends on what you prefer

[@JKMYST]

i just don't see how if you have to win 1 game in their prime you don't go with shaq.

[@David-lf6rr]

wilt was an extremely toxic teammate and stat padded. the stats were very overrated

[@chiefxx8259]

Wilt tried to block Kareem's dunk once ! Kareem broke Wilts hand ! Wilt wore a cast for 3 weeks.

[@NicolasAlcalde]

@@JKMYST Wilt was literary better at every aspect of basketball. He was a far better scorer, a far better rebounder, a far better passer, and a far better defender. He was faster, stronger and more skilled. You choose Shaq. I choose Wilt. I walk away with everything you own.

[@704jizzle2]

A prime WILT IS THE GOAT tbh

[@wmden1]

O'Neal was gifted. He had size, speed, some skill and footwork, as a big man, and fair endurance, early on. He is one of the greats. He was also gifted, by the NBA, with a large quantity of no calls, for offensive fouls. When the player, laying on the floor, moaning, was only guilty of standing in the way, in a defensive stance, and gets the foul called on him, there you go.

[@Davek7110]

Yep... Refs allowed Shaq to run over people......

[@SneakerheadAD]

Wilt been doing fadeaway jumpers before MJ and Kobe, made the most difficult layups, had almost an 8ft wingspan (which is scary for a human being), been doing skyhooks before Kareem came into the league, was super fast on the fastbreak - Wilt was way ahead of his time…. I say he’s the best center of all time.

[@garyyidsen6574]

Yeah he did but he didn’t mastered it like Mike did or did it in a perfect formation I should say

[@dk9696]

Not to mention the unbeatable number of records he still has. In my book, Wilt is untouchable and the greatest center of all time!

[@freyn11]

Skyhook comeon he was not.

[@marcopignone9386]

Refs would not have allowed Wilt to back down defenders as Shaq did. He averaged 50 pts a game without using his size. He used his height, but not his strength and weight. Of course, players were much larger and stronger in Shaq's era, but Wilt could have averaged 70 under a 90s and early 2000s interpretation of the rules. He was much more dominant at his peak than Shaq was and under the rules that Shaq played under, Wilt would have the all time scoring title, and with a much higher FG%.

[@Gerberslay]

@miguelzaibatsu that was a nice joke

[@drippnjimmy1033]

I think Hakeem has a serious argument.

[@SkyrimChicken]

Fr, Hakeem also has a case for top 5 player all time

[@leramfreeman2950]

@@SkyrimChicken you know your basketball sir!!👍🏾

[@J1-Time7]

Facts Dream was amazing

[@leramfreeman2950]

@@J1-Time7 Yes he was!👍🏾

[@TheLuscious]

He doesn’t

[@yrnxkj7607]

1. Wilt 2. Kareem 3. Hakeem 4. Shaq 5. Bill

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

Yrnx KJ Russell’s teams beat chamberlains teams. And wilt was traded twice in his prime. End of story

[@yrnxkj7607]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 Russell literally had by the best team in NBA history for the 60s and until like the 87 Lakers. Wilt outplayed bill in every matchup. Both times wilt was traded he won a ring with the team he was traded to.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@yrnxkj7607 in 4 game 7s (1962,1965,1968 blew 3-1 lead ,1969 blew 3-2 lead to ready to retire Bill Russell ) wilt only averaged 21 points a game keep in mind in that year he averaged 50 in 1962 regular season in the game 7 only scored 22 in game 7. Lockdown. Domination. In three separate game 7s (1962, 1968,1969) Russell held wilt to 21 points, 14 points and 18 points he only played good in 1965 but Russell played better

[@yrnxkj7607]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 the only impressive thing you said russell did was holding wilt to 22 in ‘62 and even then he was still outplayed by Wilt lmao. The better team won in all those series you are talking about. Wilt’s scoring dropped off and he started averaging 21 points because his role changed. His points dropped off and his assists went up because that’s what his coach asked him to do. Russell was outplayed in all those game 7s. And I just noticed ur username 💀💀. Wilt still averaged 28/26/4 on Russell’s head while outplayed him every close out game

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@yrnxkj7607 “The Celtics also ran the pick-and-roll over and over again, freeing up Sam Jones and John Havlicek for open jumpers as Wilt again showed himself reluctant to leave the paint and cover the shooters who had been freed by Russell’s picks. Alex Hannum screamed from the sidelines for Wilt to switch, but to no avail as Jones, Havlicek, and point guard Larry Siegfried combined for 61 points. Wilts lazy defense lost them the series but his groupies wanna blame his teammates smfh

[@makepeaceu]

Wilt was in incredible shape. Wilt was super strong. Unstoppable even by Russell. Russell couldn’t stop Wilt.

[@chilldoc9638]

Russell still ranks higher all time

[@hiphophead4891]

Russell held Wilt to no field goals or field goal attempts in a playoff game in the 4th quarter

[@giantsashavor7809]

@@hiphophead4891 They didn't pass Wilt the ball that's why

[@samwheel5162]

​@@hiphophead4891Wilt grabbed 55 rebounds on Russell's head

[@thomaswalsh1715]

I forget to mention Wilt never fouled out in his career. Led the league in assists as a center when asked too, averaged over 48 minutes a game for an entire season(because of some overtime games). And is the only man(Superman), to have a quintuple double. Points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals. I start a team, my first pick is wilt. Your turn

[@jbautista2927]

I’m sorry but this entire argument isn’t as great when he played in the 60’s and early 70’s let’s be honest

[@Tojohiruma]

@@jbautista2927 if that era was that easy how come russell never put up the same numbers as wilt did? he was as tall and pretty athletic as well? Also, while that era didn't have guards as good as the 90's or today's game, there was plenty of big dominant centers and wilt simply crushed them all, he was that good go watch some highlights they're terrifying, that man was a CENTER and had a FADEAWAY shot with the glass in the 60's, that's just insane

[@jbautista2927]

@@Tojohiruma to your first paragraph, Russell averaged over 20 rebounds a game his career, and was never running the offense, mostly defense💀 Plenty of big dominants? Like who? Nate Thurmond & Walt Bellamy?🤣 Guys like Embiid & Dwight would’ve crushed them I’ve seen highlights and I know it’s different from watching live but from what’s shown, only 80’s and up are when real basketball (crossovers, dribbling, athleticism, 3’s) are valid

[@mikedineen7857]

And he played all the minutes

[@mikedineen7857]

@@jbautista2927 it’s not a argument. Wilt was the best basketball player of all time. That’s a FACT!

[@anthonythomas3739]

The Dream is and will always be my favorite player he was something special i could only imagine if he had help earlier in his career

[@dennisddt1146]

When Shannon said that Kareem led the league in shots blocked 4 times, it gets me sorta sad that blocks and steals weren't counted throughout the entirety of both his career and that of Wilt and Bill Russell. They might've gotten more appreciation for their skill if that were the case.

[@jamirlinton8264]

Never thought of that great point

[@bobomaigret5430]

Wilt averaged 8.8 blocks per game in the contests that have been preserved on film or tape.

[@dennisddt1146]

@@bobomaigret5430 I read something like that before, still crazy stuff though. There is no one that can convince me that he wouldn't have been #1 on the all time leaderboard for blocks if they'd been tracked for the entirety of his career.

[@vasjaklun6008]

@@bobomaigret5430 and 8.8 was after his prime...scary...people say there was less competition then but it's false - there was TOUGHER competition. Less teams, more talent concentration. Imagine the nba today having something like 10 teams...you'd have the best 100 players competing against each other...Wilt would be facing the best centers in the world, night in, night out...well, he did exactly that, but he was so much better that people just have to find excuses for his dominance.

[@blentoot9639]

@@vasjaklun6008 don't worry 50 years from now people will say LeBron was playing against plumbers and untalented players like Curry, KD, Giannis, Kobe, Luka just like what they did against Wilt.

[@themarruf]

Wilt was the greatest player of all time, how can they doubt? With all the limitations of the rules at the time, imagine what he could do in this modern age.

[@mikekillagreen9432]

Playing against bus drivers. No

[@iiNeVeRCluTcH]

@@mikekillagreen9432 exactly lol dude way playing against 6’7” factory workers

[@jeffdougherty9010]

Wilt by far is the greatest player ever! Withou a doubt!

[@mikekillagreen9432]

@@jeffdougherty9010 Nope!

[@jeffdougherty9010]

@@mikekillagreen9432 you are incorrect

[@MindfulAttraction]

How is Skip Bayless going to say that Will Chamberlain didn't take care of his body?; That dude was so in shape that even in the 80s teams were trying to get him to play. He was still running, lifting weights, I'm playing volleyball before his death. That do was no slouch. It just shows you that Skip Bayless has hated on every single era

[@andersoncaipe8474]

He’s a troll

[@Cras007]

Some people say he used to smoke a lot so maybe skip isn't all wrong here

[@eighteight4612]

His name is Wilt. Not Will

[@alexescutia4805]

@@Cras007 ain’t jordan smoke like a cigar a day it so ebrons

[@sobhansyed4482]

He didn't say wilt did not take care of his body he said he doesn't know

[@EM-xb1uc]

Shaq giving his respects and props to his seniors that pave the way before him. As a badge of honor and respect. 👏

[@giffengood]

I still think Shaq said he accepts 4th because Hakeem was 5th...

[@cowboywilt]

Hakeem might be the greatest Center to ever play when you look at skill.

[@Terror832]

If not factoring team success. Hakeem is my starting center

[@ShallOvercome24-7]

Facts

[@keinodrichards]

Hakeem ft work is impeccable. Give me the dream. Prime shaq < prime dream

[@doedoebird6614]

All time block leader ..excellent post defender. As well with all that foot work. I can’t really argue

[@juiceplanet147]

He only has rings because MJ took a mental health break

[@billyjohnson1977]

Wilt's not only the greatest center of all time, in my opinion, but with his records, he's the greatest player period. Others won more titles, to me, that's a team thing, but as far as individual accomplishments, Wilt has no equal!

[@cappy2282]

Ya I've come to agree with this statement over the yrs. Wilt is the GOAt...if you threw him in the league (any era) he would not only shine, he would be the best player in the league

[@S3thduckyquackmoo]

Rings are team accomplishments. Put Wilt on the Celtics and he'd have a ring every year.

[@richardsong7732]

If bball was tennis or golf, then I guess. But that's the beauty of a team sport. Ain't it? You have to be great while leading 4 others on the court. Hence, individual greatness is one component of being great but there are other factors.

[@rovingwarrior3710]

@@S3thduckyquackmoo Wilt said himself that if he were the Celtics center instead of Bill, they may not have been as good a team because the team probably would have relied on him more and not allowed the team's other players to play to their full abilities.

[@Von.NorthEnd]

Ppl always say rings are a team accomplished when they haven't won that many or have lost more finals

[@michaelmattioli7230]

Wilt was the one guy who could deal with Shaq’s strength and speed and was faster, had more endurance, and was arguably stronger and definitely more agile. Wilt over Shaq all day every day. Russell won more because he was the best leader and teammate on a much better team, and I think he was the most consistent of the whole group. Shaq would have fouled out of every game if he played in the 50s, 60s, and 70’s. Wilt never fouled out of a single game in his entire career! Kareem was unstoppable and was a great defender in his prime, but not as plainly athletic as Wilt. Hakeem was unbelievably agile and quick, best feetwork of the group 😂

[@54dbruno]

Rodman owned shaq when they played against each other

[@jtaco4101]

@ESPN - ya idk where that narrative comes from. It's more like, he was able to bother Shaq a little.

[@GhostradamusX]

Couldnt have said it better, brother

[@ziginaigra]

@@54dbruno shaq avg 27 and 13 vs rodman ..he own him ?😂

[@ralphgreenwood2469]

Excellent assessment my man.

[@mdub90650]

2001 WCF vs the Spurs: Kobe avg’d 33/7/7 and D Fish was the leading scorer in Game 4. 2000 season Shaquille was second in rebounding to Deke. And the same thing he kills LeBron on, he dodged it with Shaquille (free throws and wasn’t the closer).

[@guyypayne4783]

Preach fam

[@rahsheedashley2051]

Love seeing Hakeem getting some love. Wasn't the biggest center (under 7 feet), but man could he defend and score in his prime. Would have loved to see those Rockets team go up against Jordan's Bulls squad.

[@slimdougmaddox4634]

Hakeem won his 2 rings when Mike 1st retired. His teams DID go against the Bulls. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@lostone9700]

They would have lost.

[@apostolostvable]

@@lostone9700 IDK Dream would've dominated against old-man Cartwright and Will Perdue. Houston had good shooters around him too.

[@clharris7211]

Mike wouldve sent him on home. They won when Mike left

[@lostone9700]

@@apostolostvable he pretty much dominated everyone at that point. houston would have lost because the bulls supporting cast was better at pretty much every other position all the way down the bench. bulls had better shooters, better perimeter defenders. bulls in 6.

[@tghoran0369]

Wilt and Shaq are the only big men I know of where the NBA changed rules to make them less dominant down low under the basket and yet they were both unstoppable.

[@JoseMaldonado-sw5qi]

Love the back and forth. The chemistry between these two is awesome. But the way Shannon explained the most unstoppable shot was really kool.

[@hankson8]

Shaq was incredible, so strong and dominating but I’ll take Hakeem. The post moves, defensive presence, fall away jumper beautiful to watch.

[@Jonnie_b]

Ill take shaq over hakeem

[@aidanwalsh8482]

@@Jonnie_b nice joke

[@Jonnie_b]

@@aidanwalsh8482guess ima have to school you!! Hakeem couldnt get 3 of em so does 4 beat 2 rings SON? And if kobe and shaq never had the Ego going on! I say they 3 peat like the Bulls!

[@aidanwalsh8482]

@@Jonnie_b Buddy Rings aren’t the only thing that matter Hakeem is better and isnt morbidly obese

[@ziginaigra]

@@Jonnie_b me too,over anybody actually

[@rangerscoach]

hakeem was the best for me. straight eye test. and he did everything. prime hakeem would be a shoe in for MVP in this era. hed probably add threes too.

[@francisdelacruz6439]

11 Rings is something. Leadership can't be quantified but 11 Rings speaks for itself, a greatness unmatched to date. To Bill Russell, the greatest winner in Basketball.

[@brucerobinson7260]

Yep

[@boogieblackwell5821]

I'm surprised Skip didn't say anything about Shaq's free throw shooting 🤔 lol

[@georgeprchal3924]

Super Star free throw percentage (SSFTP) is his favorite stat. (That and QBR)

[@onidtubes]

Not unusual for a guy his size playing the center position. Even Ben Wallace and Dwight struggles on free throw.

[@CCoh123]

@@georgeprchal3924 superstar free throw percentage😭🤣

[@zaaayyyy23]

Because he likes Shaq, if that was LeBron we would've ripped em

[@QuackMamba34]

@@zaaayyyy23 Even though LeBron shoots like 25 percent better than Shaq he still would rip him lmao.

[@mr2goode580]

Kareem really skilled too. I seen a video of old Kareem playing Dr J one on one giving him buckets lol

[@jIvEztImE]

Lol that might of been the worse thing ive ever seen live. . Thanks for the memory. That bank 3 was hot tho

[@rudvy1]

Yeah I saw that Kareem to big to agile!

[@DSupreme8]

Wilt can dunk from the free throw line. He was as much of a freak of nature like Shaq was.

[@cortezfernandez7475]

Nah, Wilt was a FAR greater athlete than Shaq. Wilt won the Big 12 conference high jump 3 years in a row. He was a world class 100 dash sprinter. He was a shot put champion. He beat Him Brown in a foot race. He bench pressed over 600lbs. He had a 50" vertical. He could duncj from the free throw line without running from the other end of the court or even half court. Shaq couldn't do any of those things even 4 decades later.

[@surfrunnerd8457]

"unguardable, unstoppable, unrefereeable" - describes Wilt in his prime to a t. No one could stop Wilt, not even Russell. Wilt could score on anyone, block shots on anyone, rebound, outrun everyone else down the floor and score singlehandedly. He, as a center, could dribble the ball coast to coast. And Wilt never had to resort to throwing elbows like Shaq. Wilt always prided himself on his ethics and not trying to hurt anyone.

[@slivovitz1683]

Watch clips of wilt actually playing lol. Wilt cannot be compared he played in a league where players dribbled with one hand while staring straight down at the ball

[@brucewayne1662]

Surprised they didnt mention that Hakeem and Shaq actually matched up in the 95 Finals and everybody agrees that while Shaq stood his ground well, Hakeem clearly won the matchup with the Rockets sweeping the Magic. Hakeem was a finesse player like Kareem. Some of those confusing calls would have gone to Kareem being offensive fouls and they went to Hakeem as such in the 95 Finals.

[@chiefxx8259]

Good points !

[@SDRacing88]

Hakeem never got the respect because he played for Houston. Its sick that his name is rarely mentioned.

[@coffinshoes8870]

Shaq was in his third or fourth year wasn’t he, and Hakeem was at his peak

[@robertofloresmendoza6435]

Shaq was also not in his prime, they are more talking about Lakers Shaq

[@shaunroland8053]

@@robertofloresmendoza6435 Shaq's prime was from 93-05....his peak was 00-03. People forget he dropped 29.3ppg in 2 consecutive years with the Magic (94, 95)

[@MC-yh9bw]

They're great but I'm going The Dream. No weakness and gave Shaq the business in a sweep!

[@MR-wc9lh]

If Shaq played against Kareem in the 1970s, Shaq would have regularly been called for offensive fouls. In the 1970s players were not allowed to push defenders to get close to the hoop. Wilt, the strongest man Kareem played against, didn't push Kareem around to get to the hoop.

[@RozexBang]

there was a rule that was invented in the 1970s that was later removed, where you could couldnt dunk thats why people didnt play agressively

[@wmden1]

@@RozexBang That was college basketball, only, because of Kareem, Lew Alcindor, at the time. Dunking wasn't outlawed in The NBA.

[@elijahjacob872]

Okay sure...but if he didn't?

[@shaunroland8053]

Preach brother!!! Shaq wouldn't have been able to "just" push guys around in the paint, he'd have to evolve and develop an arsenal of different type of shots as well.

[@terrellwhite3334]

@@shaunroland8053 bruh yall tripping so hard bro wilt and Kareem were stick compared to Shaq him begin allowed to be physical Shaq was every bit of 310 lb in his prime the duration wear down is real...u fellas need to stop smoking loud

[@davidleach4689]

Hakeem was a much better free throw shooter than all other centers also when he retired he was top 10 in every category pts,rebounds,steals,assists, and blocks. Unbelievable

[@Pallehz]

Russell didn't outplay Wilt. The Celtics outplayed Philly. Auerbach doesn't get enough credit for the Celtics dominance imo.

[@cyber6sapien]

How do you explain Russell's 2 college championships in three years? Also Auerbach?

[@Edward-oj1gk]

Hakeem? He wouldnt got a ring if jordan is playing lucky guy

[@luckystarsan8798]

@@cyber6sapien 1. Cause he was a great player 2. Red Auerbach was the elite Celtic coach leading them to their championships, a coach wilt never had

[@cyber6sapien]

@@luckystarsan8798 How do you explain the 1970 NBA finals loss to the knicks despite the fact that Willis Reed got injured and couldn't really contribute much over the last two or three games of the series? Russell and Auerbach were already out of the picture.

[@luckystarsan8798]

@@cyber6sapien Wilt wasn't backed by a good coach, the Lakers only won once they got rid of Joe Mullaney, the Knicks were backed by Red Holzman who was a successful coach coaching till he was 61 years old and got inducted into the hall of fame Edit: Spelling

[@jrad410]

We gonna forget what happened when Hakeem and Shaq met in the Finals?

[@howardbrooks790]

A young Shaq but I’d like to think it be a different story with 2000 shaq

[@onidtubes]

And Hakeem disappeared when Shaq moved to LA.

[@handlebucket6285]

@@howardbrooks790 2000 Shaq would do worse defensively against Hakeem

[@abraxasvoice440]

@@handlebucket6285 . Shaq was playing for phil Jackson dude. In your dreams.

[@handlebucket6285]

@@abraxasvoice440 What does Phil Jackson have to do with Shaqs defense? Phil hated double teaming. He would cook Shaq one on one.

[@deantrellzenonadair1949]

Ima go with Shaq if I’m starting a team tbh. Simply an unstoppable force.

[@eldub422]

You must be under 30

[@zaaayyyy23]

Hack a Shaq... referees call fouls every 30 seconds nowadays

[@brixaabrixaa3390]

@@zaaayyyy23 yeah do that and the whole starting 5 fouled out

[@toystoryss]

@@eldub422 you must not have listened to the whole pod cast and heard what skip said.

[@iess2006]

Agreed...unstoppable offensive fouls.

[@ian1753]

Ill never forget the Houston vs Orlando Nba Finals. Hakeem absolutely obliterated Shaq. Hakeem had him on his heels left and right. The guys post skills were something like Ive never seen. A dominating 4-0 sweep

[@iamdezsi9671]

That wasn't prime Shaq

[@MrZackavelli]

@@iamdezsi9671 That is the most pathetic excuse that I've ever seen thrown around the Shaq arguments The 95 Rockets would've dominated any of the Laker teams that had Shaq on it

[@ziginaigra]

@@MrZackavelli 😆yoyo

[@arealgoodguy]

Many woman would say Wilt is the greatest center of all time.

[@diegobromfield]

What do you mean?

[@NightcoreNewbie]

@@diegobromfield In a biography book, Wilt claimed to have slept with 20,000 different women.

[@diegobromfield]

@@NightcoreNewbie For real? Lol. Is that even true?

[@NightcoreNewbie]

@@diegobromfield I don't know if it's true but that's what he claims in his book, "A View From Above." Multiple articles about it pop up if you google that or type "wilt chamberlain women." Personally, I call bs because he's never had a single child in all that time and I doubt this is the type of guy to wear condoms.

[@kwequababio2415]

👌😁😁😂

[@Carlking3]

I say Hakeem aswell but that’s just my opinion He was one of the few players to lead a team with no allstars or stars to a championship. Had the best footwork of any center all times blocks and probably the best defender of all time

[@v1rus136]

Altho he have vets in his team such as clyde drexler,willis reed,robert horry,sam cassel and maxwell those are not stars but they are pretty good players personally i think he’s top 5 at cetner and top 13-11 at all time but i respect your opinion

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Aw stop it he had plenty of stars

[@anthonytaylor7928]

So Clyde drexler wasn't a Star?

[@Carlking3]

@@anthonytaylor7928 Drex was not! An all star the first time they won a championship so you stop half the season he was playing for Portland. So my comment still stands. Hakeem was the only all star on that team

[@anthonytaylor7928]

@@Carlking3 bro all due respect and thanks for ur comment Clyde the glide drexler was a perinial 10 time all Star 2 time hall of famer one as an individual and in the hall of fame off the frickin dream team played in the NBA finals for two different teams ok so maybe he was an NBA all star that particular year but he was all NBA third team that Year and made two more all star teams after that ur comment was no all stars or stars even tho I consider other players on Houston were stars in my book. That comment just don't fly when it comes to Clyde drexler come on now

[@chiefxx8259]

40 yr old Kareem was still good ! But y'all youngsters better google 21 yr old Lew Alcindor and check his stats !!

[@tmac731]

31 and 17 in his second season. SECOND SEASON!!!! I’m 23 btw

[@chiefxx8259]

@@tmac731 Tell me the point you're making ? I'm not following.

[@tmac731]

@@chiefxx8259 I didn’t see Kareem play so therefore I had to google his stats since I’m a youngster

[@chiefxx8259]

If I remember correctly, Kareem then he was Lew Alcindor ! Only lost 1 game in highschool, and 2 in college. They out lawed dunking which is why he developed the skyhook ! He was awesome, and was a cool soul brother. He has a high IQ, reads a lot, collects classic jazz albums ! and was buddies with Ali and Malcom X.

[@serge014]

@@tmac731 There are videos of highlights and old games you can watch.

[@marktownsend2460]

Wilt Chamberlain vs Shaquille O'Neal (Best Regular Season Averages): Points: (50.4 vs 29.7) Rebounds: (27.2 vs 13.9) Assists: (8.6 vs 3.8) Field Goal: (73% vs 67%) Free Throw: (61% vs 62%) Wilt Chamberlain vs Shaquille O'Neal (Best Play-Offs Averages*): Points: (35.0 vs 30.7) Rebounds: (29.1 vs 15.4) Assists: (9.0 vs 4.6) Field Goal: (58% vs 61%) Free Throw: (64% vs 66%) - *At Least 10 Games Played

[@FoobasSports]

Shaq could posterise Wilt a couple of times but he would be exhausted by the end of the 3rd quarter trying to keep up with him. Wilt will end up with more points, rebounds, steals and blocks. So who is destroying who, Skip?

[@TrueNordGaming]

@@mikej6326 if what many people say and wilts stats were inflated because of a faster pace that makes his 48.5 minutes per game all the more impressive. No way Shaq could keep up with that.

[@pantol33]

Wilt and Russell had some unofficial quadruple-double too. Wilt also had a quintuple-double in 68 :D sick

[@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212]

Wilt averaged 30 rebounds per game in 1967 playoffs, that's unmatchable. It's like a joke, 30 rebs per game, are you kidding me?

[@ThePrayinmantiz]

Wilt was on another planet...💯

[@sabbasarishvili6677]

I'm incredebly surprised and very happy to see Shannon give The Dream respect that he deserves. BY FAR, the most underrated player of all time!

[@emperorhakimiv7745]

Imagine if Shaq went as hard as Kobe, dear lord, I get shivers just thinking about it.

[@iess2006]

He didn't tho did he...

[@iess2006]

@monsoon season Wilt was actually pretty conscientious about not hurting people due to his great strength. Shaq didn't seem to care about people or backboards so much lol.

[@yippee-ki-yay9925]

Shaq played very hard when he was in the game. He gave it 100%. He just didn't stay in shape off the court or dedicate his off-season time training to get better like Kobe did.

[@braddivac3561]

Wilt had better stamina and I honestly believe he was stronger than Shaq. I mean many NBA players say so.

[@mckainentertainmentnetwork5116]

Wilt could bench more at 50, then Shaq could in his prime. But Shaq is my favorite player of all time

[@skolcole]

Wilt was easily stronger than Shaq like by far and it’s been proven lol. Not even a contest between Wilt & Shaq.

[@Righteousone18]

I believe it. Wilt picked up a 150-160 lb man like he was a newborn baby. It’s on KZbin

[@bankrollplays5744]

The footwork and power shaq had would frustrate wilt

[@rovingwarrior3710]

Bill Russell who is pretty smart basketball wise and not to say otherwise, said that Wilt and Shaq were about equal athletically from the waist up but that Shaq had stronger legs.

[@irungudaniels3878]

People really be underestimating wilt , look at the stats alone. He even won a game with assists alone not even a single shot in that game.

[@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212]

He's the most dominant ever, numbers don't lie.

[@xprimegel8602]

@@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 overrated

[@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212]

@@xprimegel8602 Underrated

[@randombutspecific]

1. Hakeem 2. Russell 3. Kareem 4. Wilt 5. Shaq There’s a reason Bill Russell is the most successful athlete in the history of American team sports. I had to put Hakeem ahead of him only because of how much I love the dream’s technique, but it’s debatable.

[@mca217]

Skip, Wilt ALWAYS kept himself in great shape. He took pride in playing 40 plus minutes a game.

[@kadoemarley5897]

They gotta respect that man name

[@mg19cal]

The man averaged *OVER* 48 minutes per game one season

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

He he averaged 48.5 minutes one year, that’s insane

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

@@mg19cal yeah that’s one of the craziest stats I’ve ever heard

[@yozer8338]

He also averaged 40 plus minutes in his spare time to lmao 🤣

[@michaellewis4626]

What has to be considered is the playoff careers of the all time centers.. Shaq. Russell. Kareem and Wilt excelled in the post season in their respective prime.

[@Cream-2128]

Umm you saying Hakeem didn’t?

[@giffengood]

Wilt did not, Wilt's stats and outcomes dropped off in the postseason...

[@Slapshot544]

@@Cream-2128 Deadass. Hakeem>Shaq

[@flexermc4333]

Kareem is the goat 6mvps most of all time. all time leading scorer. Unstoppable sky hook.

[@Malikttv757]

Who was his competition for them mvps and he played with great players as well

[@onidtubes]

Kareem played with Magic Johnson. Nuff said.

[@juiceplanet147]

Not without Big O & Magic. No Magic or Oscar no NBA rings

[@Datboyjoc]

@@onidtubes he won a championship before magic

[@onidtubes]

@@Datboyjoc one with Oscar Robertson. Didn't win another one until he had , guess who? Nine years later.

[@garrettc8490]

Wait a minute Skip, Chamberlain was a physical force who said on many occasions he held back on Bill Russell so as not to hurt him. He was that insanely strong. Kareem held his own against Wilt, so why wouldn't he do the same against Shaq?

[@urbaindelva7869]

I'm taking Hakeem because of how ahead of his time he was imo. Before him, there was arguably never a big man before him that had the skill that he had on both ends of the floor.

[@antdawg78]

Not even Wilt huh

[@mikekillagreen9432]

@@antdawg78 Wilt had Hall of Famers around him. Who did Olajuwon have

[@antdawg78]

@@mikekillagreen9432 read what urbain delva put out that's what I replied to. Reading is fundamental

[@mikekillagreen9432]

@@antdawg78 You're in no position to talk about reading with that stupid comment that has no context.

[@antdawg78]

@@mikekillagreen9432 get out this conversation

[@boom2nuke264]

Shaq in a 1 on 1 could've beat Kareem because of sheer body type, but if you put prime Shaq vs. prime Wilt, Wilt could've picked up Shaq like a Gatorade bottle.

[@chefhomeboiardee4574]

@KZbin LOVES Soft Leftists Yeah, I don’t know what this guy is talkin about.

[@chiefxx8259]

Shaq was strong, but he had no finesse moves and a terrible free throw shooter. Kareem /Lew Alcindor would have fouled that brut out. Kareem wasn't weak, remember he had a black belt and was in Bruce Lee's movie "Game Of Death" The NBA was physical back then ! Google Kareem/ Lew Alcindor NBA fights & tell me what you see !

[@yippee-ki-yay9925]

In the 1970s, Kareem was a beast offensively. He was much more skilled than Shaq. I think he would outplay him much like Hakeem did in the Finals. Shaq would get his points off Kareem but Kareem would score just as many if not more off Shaq.

[@user-pu3cf9pd2m]

Wilt is by far the best center ever. He was doing the skyhook before Kareem was in the league, invented the one legged post fade that people associate Dirk with. Was always the fastest player on the court, and on defense, he intimidated the opposition so much that on some nights, they would REFUSE to drive to the paint. If they counted blocks back then, he would be #1 in total blocks, followed by Bill Russell after.

[@pranith850]

Nope. I disagree personally because of how inflated that era was due to pace and insane amount of possessions which heavily inflated stats, along with the fact that Wilt underperformed in the playoffs a lot.

[@blackdynamite5016]

@@pranith850 Exactly, Wilt was a freak of nature till Bill Russell was on the court with him.

[@therealnasr]

Mj would have been the best center if he was 5 inches taller-Skip

[@humbertoorozcoreyna5689]

@@blackdynamite5016then you realize that Wilt averaged 30pts and 28 rebounds against Russell for his whole career.

[@datsapaddlin6449]

@@blackdynamite5016 Wilt use to cook Bill 😂. Even he said that lmao

[@Jones-Jones88]

This Skip and Shannon is what what we miss ❤..Thank you both for these memories.

[@jerryde2861]

Yeah, we know Wilt scored 100 points on the Knicks and grabbed 55 rebounds against Boston in a single game in a game...but his most shocking record to me is the season when he averaged 48.5 minutes per game. Just think of that...an NBA game is divided into four -12 minute quarters. He never came out of a game...no load management with Wilt.

[@mulan0727]

Then after the game he did another 48.5 minutes with multiple women according to Shannon.

[@JLThisisMe]

That was one of the differences in his mindset vs. Shaq's. Wilt took it as an insult when he was taken out of a game. Shaq was great -- no doubt -- but often couldn't wait to get some down time, especially as he got heavier and heavier during his career.

[@jgbcreations9368]

And how many teams were in the league when Wilt was playing? How many games did they play? Less than modern NBA on both BY A LOT. i respect Wilt but c'mon...

[@TubetakerBHV]

@@jgbcreations9368 He played all 80 games that season. The regular season now has 82 games. So what is your point?

[@kellygilford8637]

He claims he load managed over 10,000 women.

[@redeyejedi9504]

Old Wilt blocked the Kareem skyhook.

[@michaell7417]

Lol sure he did he also got scored on plenty times.

[@rb9888]

@@chiefxx8259 come on, bro. wilt was already too old and gathered too many STDs ;-)

[@andregreen4358]

I luv Shaq being so humble, he was the last of the true centers in NBA

[@MaineMez]

Dwight

[@Chosen1Crown]

Dwight is a joke not a legend .. seriously smh 🤦‍♂️

[@proxinsky4981]

@@MaineMez Unfortunately, he was too soft

[@iess2006]

Lol....not only is Shaq not humble he's overrated too.

[@todd6805]

@@proxinsky4981 8x all star 3x dpoy

[@sjv855]

Wilt was the most dominant player the NBA has ever seen.

[@weltonspratley4367]

Man, if Shaq ran a 4.6 in the 40 then Olajuwan must've ran a 4.4 cause dude ran like a gazelle up and down the court. He dominated Shaq in the 1995 NBA championships with the dream shake and all sorts of crazy moves Shaq didn't have an answer for. So I'd definitely would put him over Shaq in the top 5 centers of all time.

[@JLThisisMe]

Shaq might have been able to get under 5 flat, which would still be scary, but there's no way he'd ever pull off a 4.6.

[@eden6314]

I’m a Hakeem fan but you gotta remember that Shaq still hadnt peaked while Hakeem had

[@lostone9700]

Big deal. Veteran beat up on a non prime shaq.

[@hughhefner5348]

He too small for prime la Shaq.

[@Jayherbo23]

Probably a 4.8 for Shaq

[@corbencarter-dixon5758]

“Now Wilt took care of a lot of other people”🤣 -Shannon Sharpe

[@bigbonedones7162]

1. Wilt Chamberlain. 100 points. 50ppg in his best season. He was once called selfish for not passing the ball and the next year he lead in assists. Rebound monster. Dead fade away that no one could ever stop, manage to block Kareem. Imagine Wilt with today's diet. 2. Kareem. Had the most unstoppable sky hook to some the hardest move ever. Did the skyhook to Wilt. 2. Tie with Bill Rusell. Simply he was an actual classic center. Great rebound numbers and great team player with 11 rings. 3. Shaq. Most dominant and strongest player ever. Do I have to mention feats? He literally has broken a basket. 4. Hakeem most rounded center of all time that could shoot from anywhere.

[@williamcosentino1995]

Not a bad top 5, at all.

[@Infamous1991]

1. Wilt Chamberlain 2. David Robinson 3. Hakeem Olajuwon 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5. Shaquille O‘Neal 6. Bill Russell

[@BabylonGateLA]

I freaking love this show for this type of conversations! It used to be first take = undisputed, but now its not even close undisputed >>>>>>>>>>>>> first take!

[@emptiuz]

Kobe said it himself, if Shaq has anything close to his mindset there would be no question who the goat is.

[@thedoubtfuls]

Wilt was apparently much stronger than shaq - according to someone who saw them both play. Many stories abt wilt's incredible strength in game.

[@BrandonKyle7]

go watch the clip of Wilt shaking Shaq's hand haha. You can tell who was the strong one.

[@tmac731]

@@BrandonKyle7 wilt almost pulled Shaq arm out the socket on that handshake

[@foclorelu4695]

Shaq was overweight most of his career..and Size does not equate to strength...The stories of the Strength of Wilt Chamberlain are Legendary

[@davidbarnes830]

Wilt also played the point for the globe trotters at one time

[@blanketstarry7725]

There is no way of telling by that way Wilt played. Despite what people like to say now, Wilt played a finesse game.

[@ranmangolf]

I wish we could have seen Wilt play in the 1980s and 90s. From what he, Russell, and many others attest, Wilt Chamberlain had so much more power that was never really seen. Wilt purposed not to play a physical smash mouth game because it wasn't needed and it wouldn't have been appreciated in those years. By his own words, he purposed to be more of a finesse player of skill rather than intimidation. Moreover, he had the power to really hurt people. The players in his era were not as athletic or big, and this would not have been a good look. It would have been like beating up your little brother. Watch some of the other youtube stories of how strong, powerful, and fast Wilt was, and I think you will not think twice that he was capable of dominating Shaq who I also have much respect for as a great player, especially during his younger years. Wilt and Russell said they would have purposely wore Shaq out by making him run his legs off. Wilt played the whole game which something Shaq and many others could never do. I think if we saw Wilt play in the 80s and 90s we would have seen an even better Wilt Chamberlain. Maybe not the high scoring, but more of his skills would have been on display and developed at a higher level.

[@ziginaigra]

i think he would have worse stats than shaq in 80s or 90s

[@kevinthomes1046]

Wilt was not built for power. He had very long legs so he was cut high. He did not have the base to go power against the elite player of that era. Shaq would have zero problem with Wilt. Wilt would have looked a lot like Shawn Bradley to Shaq. Someone he can get lower than and just move around. I'm not saying Wilt was Shawn Bradley's caliber as a player.

[@Davek7110]

@@kevinthomes1046 check out big Bob Lanier(Detroit team in the 60's)...built a lot like Shaq... see what he says about Wilt.

[@mikedineen7857]

Wilt was worried about killing somebody if he went all out.

[@mikedineen7857]

He would hold back because he was afraid of really hurting someone.

[@InvestBetter.]

I totally agree with Shay. Shaq knows he was dominant, just not on Wilt's level. I've seen Shaq, Kareem and The Dream play in their prime, and I have them ranked the same Wilt and Kareem have earned the right to be a cut above the rest I put Russell 5th because he didn't have the offensive ability of the others.

[@cole9777]

At the same time his defense was a pretty big factor on why the Celtics won 11 championships with him.

[@malhotraroger9106]

Shaq was a BMF , but can you imagine Wilt’s numbers if he spent less time and energy on P🐯, and more on his basketball .

[@playboymaxim]

That was his side hustle 😁😁😁

[@JLThisisMe]

And if the rules were bent to allow Shaq to push defenders around and push opponents off balance while blocking their shots.

[@thepac12andbig10suck]

Man he scored 100 in a game and had a quintuple double WHILE spending that energy on women lol.

[@TK-ev]

@@JLThisisMe imagine all that strength while being able to bump people under the hoop like the late 90's

[@MrZackavelli]

I mean, the same could be said for Magic

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Skip Bayless is the GOAT for spawning sports debates. He created jobs for a lot of people. Stephen A is not where he is without Skip.

[@jp3813]

Playoff stats (steals & blocks not recorded in the 60s): Wilt = 160 games, 47.2 min, 22.5 ppg (.522 percent fg), 24.5 rpg, 4.2 apg Russell = 165 games, 45.4 min, 16.2 ppg (.430 percent fg), 24.9 rpg, 4.7 apg Kareem = 237 games, 37.3 min, 24.3 ppg (.533 percent fg), 10.5 rpg, 3.2 apg Hakeem = 145 games, 39.6 min, 25.9 ppg (.528 percent fg), 11.2 rpg, 3.2 apg Shaq = 216 games, 37.5 min, 24.3 ppg (.563 percent fg), 11.6 rpg, 2.7 apg

[@francus7227]

That says it ALL. They're so close there's no reason to bicker.... Those are weighted stats. It's not like its only 10 games....145 or more games is legitimately weighted. THANKS.

[@Antrone2103]

Kareem is the greatest center and greatest overall player of all time. They literally made him stop dunking in college. Could image that? That's next level

[@MackMainSupreme]

The NBA made goaltending because of Wilt and college widened the paint because of Russell.

[@kevinak-d1x]

They also changed the free throw rules because of wilt. And actually wilt had a quadruple double but they didnt record some stats back then. I think Kareem is the 5th best center. Great skyhook tho

[@XaviorJordan]

@@kevinak-d1x wilt had a skyhook in his bag too. There's footage of him hitting from around 18 ft

[@chiefxx8259]

Kareem/Lew Alcindor and Jordan vs anybody ! Everyone at the age of 24 yrs old.

[@shaneturner7990]

Bump that Shaq. You know Hakeem got your number.

[@Blaqmench]

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[@jackadoni]

i CAN'T believe all these Jordan Last Dance d-riders!!! Hakeem has two titles. Never dominated over a 3 year period the way Shaq did. Cut-it-out!!

[@JRMars-gt2jl]

HAKEEM THE GOAT 🚫🧢

[@anthonycelestin3559]

Issue with Hakeem was that he won his rings when MJ retired. But skillset wise he’s the best ever as a center with his footwork & arsenal of moves in the low post. Giannis should train with Hakeem

[@jrad410]

@@anthonycelestin3559 true although I believe he had a winning record against the bulls. Rockets especially that 95 squad may have beaten the Bulls

[@cristobalospina620]

@@anthonycelestin3559 Hakeem won when Jordan played. This is the misconception people have

[@jonnstewart2023]

@Versatile Wolf means no cap , which is just used to reinforce a point , I take it you're probably over 40 or you're not used to social media ? No disrespect just asking

[@s0basically3]

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[@terrybader8595]

The huge mistake Skip makes is judging Kareem by his 1980's version. The 1970's Kareem would school Shaq and the 1960's Wilt runs Shaq into the ground.

[@benyah3390]

No he wouldn't because Kareem couldn't handle physicality. That's what seperates Dream from Kareem vs. Shaq. Kareem couldn't handle Shaq whereas Olajuwon held his own. And *no* version of Kareem was so quick that he could give Shaq a problem like a prime David Robinson or Hakeem. Moses Malone gave the blueprint on how to handle Kareem. Unless Kareem developed that hook shot good enough from the 3 point line, Kareem couldn't do anything with Shaq offensively, and definitely not defensively.

[@saverioman]

@@benyah3390 Yes, it's hard to imagine that Kareem could stop Shaq defensively. I disagree on the offense-side: The Kareem/Lew Alcindor of the early 1970's has no problem scoring on Shaq. As a young man he had a much more versatile offensive game that the mid-1980's version that mainly shot sky hooks. Moses Malone did have Kareem's number, but by that time Kareem (who came up in 1969) was in his 14th season while Moses was in his MVP prime...not a fair comparison. I think the one guy who Shaq would have struggled with is a prime Wilt Chamberlain, who was just as strong as Shaq (maybe stronger), more skilled and much fitter (he averaged almost 12 more minutes per game than Shaq). There's no chance Shaq could keep up with him for 48 minutes.

[@benyah3390]

@@saverioman I'm not arguing Shaq vs. Wilt because I really don't know if Wilt was more myth or legend. As far as Moses & Kareem, Kareem came in '69 & Malone out of high school '74. That's only 5 years difference. Prime for prime, Kareem's weakness was lack of strength and power. People keep talking about LA Shaq, but Orlando Shaq was a beast as well. Orlando Shaq did better on Hakeem than I think LA Shaq would've done because LA Shaq was 330-350. That's 30-50 pounds more to carry around than during his Orlando days. Hakeem would have roasted him even worse because slimmer Shaq couldn't keep up with Dream. Kareem couldn't do anything with any version of Shaq because Shaq isn't going to just sit there and allow him to shoot in his comfort zone. Wilt probably would torch LA Shaq as well, but Orlando Shaq is a different story. But my main argument was prime Hakeem vs. Prime Kareem with all things being equal as in swap their careers and Dream would have more hardware than Kareem did if he played in Milwaukee & LA, and Kareem would have less because I really don't think he'd win any of Olajuwon's rings. *Maybe* vs. Ewing & the Knicks; but definitely not against Orlando Shaq.

[@jackharper4794]

@@benyah3390 How old are you? What you said makes you sound like you don't know basketball! If you put that down, you don't know basketball! You're just trying to repeat what that hack Skip Bayless was saying!

[@phillipschuman4307]

@@benyah3390 "Kareem came in '69 & Malone out of high school '74. That's only 5 years difference." No, it's more like a 9 year difference in ages. Because Kareem spent four full years after high school at UCLA.

[@jamesthomas3098]

Wilt the Stilt was the most Athletic and Dominating center of all-time! If they would have counted blocks in his day, he would have averaged 7 blocks per game! Wilts number #1 Number don't lie!

[@basketball1652]

Wilt Chamberlain would destroy Shaq !

[@idk-yk3xo]

Fax

[@westcoastkidd17]

I was born in 1991 and grew up in LA and Shaq in his prime was seriously unbelievable. He was literally doubled or tripled teamed every time he touched the ball and if he was single-covered, 'FUHGET ABOUT IT'. It was over. He would've backed up the dude 5-6 feet towards the basket and found a way to get an easy shot off or dunked on you.

[@trifolkel]

He elbows the faces of his defenders. The only reason shaq won his championships was bcoz the NBA allowed him unlimited uncalled offensive fouls

[@skippylance1591]

Chamberlain weighed over 300 lb (310-320) at 7'1" (Shaq was 7'0" and weighed about 330). Chamberlain is generally regarded as the strongest player who ever played the game--and had incredible endurance. He played one season without missing a minute of play (except for about 7 minutes when he got thrown out of a game), averaging 48.5 minutes a game for the whole season of 79 complete games! He had great endurance. Shaq did not; he'd get winded quite easily. He'd never keep up with Wilt. The guy here who's calling Shaq the greatest center ever is well off the mark, knows little about Wilt, and keeps dispensing him unjustifiably with his poor wisecracks.

[@AlvarGeesusTheCreator]

*250

[@FuShengAlex]

Wilt didn't even really play the strength game like Shaq did so that's a moot point. He wasn't even over 300 lbs until he was a Laker with declining athleticism. He had gangly legs compared Shaqs bigger lower torso/Center of gravity. Shaq entered the nba at like 7'1" 320lbs. And before anyone tries to use the excuse that rules held him back from playing as such wilt mentality wise didn't want to be known as a bully whereas Shaq enjoyed it. He wanted to prove to critics he was versatile and skilled offensively not just someone that dunked

[@JLThisisMe]

@@FuShengAlex Shaq was about 290 when he entered the NBA. 285 in his last year at LSU.

[@FuShengAlex]

@@JLThisisMe Shaq said he was 300 lbs as a Orlando rookie. I was 25 lbs over and you were 10 lbs under.

[@ANONYMOUS-nc2ef]

Wilt is better than shaq cause wilt played the game as it should been not bullied everybody with his size.

[@sionelealoiafialailima9128]

Wilt and Russell made the point that if Shaq had played in there era, he would have fouled out in a heart. Wilt was able to dunk with people literally holding on to him. What do you think he would have done with the same whistle as Shaq? Also, Wilt is one of 2 centers to have blocked the sky hook.

[@kevinsmoot8562]

I love Shaq. He is my second favorite player of all time next to Magic Johnson. However, fourth place all time ranking is correct. Kareem is clearly the best center ever. Kareem was a lot stronger than Skip is giving credit to. Also, Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq. Wilt many believe was stronger than Shaq. Russell...well is Russell. Hard to argue against 11 championship in 13 years.

[@joespitzer977]

Centers who I think were physically stronger than Shaq were Wilt, Nate Thurmond, Artis Gilmore and Sabonis who we never got to see in the NBA in his prime.

[@brendanbloom3366]

Wilt is the best

[@CDoinWork]

And Hakeem, Shaq would still be my all time starter tho if we played aliens or my life was on the line 👈🏼

[@sagesmukler9383]

Prime top of the line Shaq was probably the best, he just didn't have the longevity though.

[@anthonyindiana563]

Shaq def going out there against the aliens

[@abraxasvoice440]

Prime Shaq would destrooooy aliens with dunks and a bunch of turnaround alley oops dunks!!!