Shaquille O'Neal vs Hakeem Olajuwon | Who's Greater?

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[@rustybuckets]

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[@Andandand25]

Nice vid. I hope you have fun in Atlanta.

[@ballinsoro4633]

Lebron vs bird

[@KaosOwners]

Rusty you seem to have forgotten that hakeem is NINTH all time in steals, again… NINTH! As a center that is rediculous. The season where he averaged 4.6 blocks he also averaged 2.2 steals. It is crazy how dominant he was on defense

[@briant1745]

Could you talk about Ralph Sampson? That would be cool

[@justinbires6283]

If its career then Shaq but if its who would i take in a 1 on 1 match-up then give me Hakeem the dream. Locked in Keem made the best defensive centers look silly

[@aysitalownatlanch1052]

Hakeem is so good that the rockets didn’t look stupid for picking him over mj

[@joshruiz809]

The NBA was different, the idea was Center was the most needed position. They were trying to trade down and the Bulls said no.

[@K.B.Williams]

@@joshruiz809 Still wasn't a stupid move unlike that second pick

[@connortaaffe9384]

Josh Ruiz Ye but nobody thinks it was a bad choice

[@amaruprice3683]

@@connortaaffe9384 they could of have him and jordan on the same team if the traded ralph sampson for the blazers 2 overall pick

[@melvynsngltn27]

Jordan wasn't ranked that high yet as a player Jordan was a superstar all of his career while Hakeem was barely an all-star

[@gabrielmorales3564]

Shaq: Give me the ball and move out the way Hakeem: pump fake spin *haha you look stupid* score

[@sirsuya784]

That’s the best way to put it😂

[@NYCharlie718]

I remember watching this dream shake montage where Hakeem busts out like 4 moves in 6 seconds vs David Robinson. It's like, the Admiral is one of the GOAT centers and a great defender but Hakeem just made him look like a damn fool. It's crazy when you hear forwards and guards going to Hakeem in the off season to practice footwork cause Hakeem was that fucking good.

[@stealthiscool]

@@NYCharlie718 I've never seen such an awesome player get cooked so bad in such an important series than Robinson in 96'. Hakeem was just absolutely ridiculous

[@ericzamudio2905]

LMAO

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@NYCharlie718 do you remember Houston's entire team guarding David Robinson while DRob guarded Hakeem 1 on 1

[@rizwanshareef2226]

Oh finally someone who actually addresses this question

[@ikeaman7247]

Yeah I’ve been wondering this for a bit

[@bazingacurta2567]

You made me cry

[@ikeaman7247]

bazingacurta what?

[@kronostartext6948]

@@bazingacurta2567 how

[@oiseohiwerei445]

And with the right answer xD

[@ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr]

Hakeem was more skilled, Shaq at his peak was slightly more dominant, but then again Hakeem is the only player ever to win MVP, DPOY, and finals MVP in the same season 😱

[@christianr1941]

Wow, i didnt even know that, i feel like the dream gets under looked

[@quantum7495]

Trippy gameing wouldn’t it be over looked?

[@itzjustpax8592]

Arshdeep Singh Jordan did that

[@KaosOwners]

He’s ninth all time in steals aswell, he’s imo the greatest defensive player of all time. The season where he averaged 4.6 blocks he also averaged 2.2 steals

[@itzjustpax8592]

Max your wrong he’s not the greatest defender

[@TMK561]

I’ll take Hakeem over Shaq as much as I love Shaq

[@itzjustpax8592]

R-Man The Great your wrong sham has 4 rings Hakeem has what?

[@alvarogarcia51]

VlogWithThristanAndTori 2 as being the only all superstar lol, and beat Shaq in the finals.

[@TMK561]

VlogWithThristanAndTori and? I’ll still take Hakeem over Shaq. U have your opinion and I have mine.

[@mahmoodsiddiqui8064]

@@itzjustpax8592 who tf is sham

[@itzjustpax8592]

Theredman10 shaq wasn’t at his peak in Orlando lakers shaq will cook Hakeem

[@mariorosario4428]

Hakeem’s footwork was just out of this world. He danced on the hardwood. Was beautiful to watch.

[@sirsuya784]

Shaq was more dominant, Hakeem is more skilled

[@allanhouston6759]

*Hakeem Olajuwon lost in the First Round to the teams whose best player was Dale Ellis.* Shaquille O"Neal is better than Hakeem OLajuwon.

[@daerill3546]

@@allanhouston6759 its up for debate

[@daerill3546]

@@allanhouston6759 shaq had penny and kobe tho so idk about the losing in the first round thing

[@ChrisM07]

​@@allanhouston6759 Shaq's been eliminated in lopsided fashion way more times (swept or lost in 5), and he was playing w/star guards. Drexler was the only star guard the Rockets had and that was later in his career.

[@midni7e7oker]

We all know Shaq revolutionized the FT game.

[@frostgod2230]

Fax

[@trigex415]

Fax

[@JimmyButlersdreads]

Fax

[@abdulmuhammad4861]

Fax

[@resurrectedpa]

Fax

[@mydogsnameislucy768]

"Basically tied when it comes to playmaking". Na that goes to Olajuwon.

[@vincentlouisebeltran7082]

Orlando shaq is a good playmaker to tho

[@KevinVelazquezAniPower]

Vincent Louise Beltran he was but Olajuwon was built different bro

[@nmasijika7557]

Umm Hakeem was a much better passer is rusty okay

[@krlllx]

@@nmasijika7557 playmaking isnt just passing. Shaq had more gravity in the paint. Trae young is a better passer than curry but curry is a better playmaker because steph has so much more gravity because of how much of a better shooter which lets curry get easier passes. Its like that for shaq but in the paint instead of the 3 point line.

[@nmasijika7557]

Krlllx hakkem literally made kick out plays from the post you don’t know shit off the corner he’s making plays the system was literally around him 3-D guys

[@lillaxeddysgamingchannel8737]

Both a have unstoppable move with Shaq’s being Diesel and Hakeem’s being The Dream Shake.

[@jakobkuhn-olioff7348]

Lil' Laxeddy's Gaming Channel what about the black tornado

[@MrE_]

People can and have figured out how to stop the dream shake. Shaq on the other hand...even if you know how to stop him, he's just going to crash through you.

[@krlllx]

@@MrE_ rodman stopped shaq.

[@142ismael]

@@MrE_ nope they didn't

[@joshruiz809]

@@MrE_ By these 2020 rules? He would fouled out by halftime lmao

[@matthiasmccormack3213]

Hakeem genuinely has an argument for the second greatest center of all time. I think centers are rated by a combo of offense, defense, and winning, and Hakeem was a greater defender than Shaq, a greater offensive player than Bill, and a greater winner than Wilt. NOT saying he’s the second greatest, but he actually has an argument. Depending on what side of the bed I wake up on, he can be as low as 5 or as high as 2

[@quantum7495]

I feel like he was the best defender ever, he was very good offensively, and he was a very good winner

[@Kosher93]

@@quantum7495 you could argue he's the best offensive center too. For sure the greatest post scorer ever. Kareem had the sky hook but Hakeem skillset was sooooo much more diverse.

[@manroopsingh4558]

I'm my opinion he is better than wilt because he was elite in the playoffs and wilt stat padded with wasn't clutch and wilts stats dropped significantly in the playoffs and hakeema improved

[@mesropmkhitaryan8239]

@@manroopsingh4558 im agree that he is better than Wilt but man for me he is not better than Kareem and Shaq

[@manroopsingh4558]

@@mesropmkhitaryan8239 bro he is better than shaq

[@joshruiz809]

Im taking The Dream all day.

[@itzjustpax8592]

Josh Ruiz wrong

[@swisscheese6456]

I wouldn't say it's a huge difference though, if you think that you are biased, I think I take hakeem though 🤣

[@itzjustpax8592]

Swiss Cheese it is close but shaq got more rings and fmvps

[@joshruiz809]

@@itzjustpax8592 Rusty addresses what you just said and guess what, its not on Shaqs favor.

[@joshruiz809]

@@swisscheese6456 Im a Bulls fan, growing up in the 90s and I watched them play. Hakeem was different. Shaqs had a sweet gig at Center in the 2000s, which is actually sad he didnt win more than 4. Hakeem had a tougher opponents and didnt have no one like Kobe on his team.

[@bagofrats3464]

Put Prime Hakeem on the Lakers with Kobe they winning 5 straight.

[@jimmyjay689]

Hakeem didnt do anything once Shaq reached his prime except retire....right about the time The Admiral and Duncan started a true dynasty

[@bagofrats3464]

@@jimmyjay689 he was old 😂😂😂tf you want him to do And Duncan carried the Spurs lets not bullshit the Admiral wasn't the same player due to injuries.

[@Jmxd21]

Straight facts

[@germanischerkrieger6018]

Nah maybe a other good team but lakers without Shaq and only Kobe would have not more than 1 ring

[@akshaysundru482]

@@jimmyjay689 Bruh the Admiral averaged 15 and 10 and was carried by young Duncan at the end. Ws never the same after that injury.

[@exility1390]

Shaq said that Hakeem was better than him anyways, shaq couldn’t intimidate the dream.

[@jimmyjay689]

Shaq was a baby...Hakeem retired when Shaq was in his prime

[@blackconclave1962]

Stop it... Shaq is better than Hakeem. This is just something to talk and react about.

[@crazycuzchannel4777]

Shaq was no match for hakeem he whooped his azz in the finals

[@wuzi7049]

@@jimmyjay689 by shaq's "prime" the center position had already started declining. the only real center left was yao ming and even yao wasn't as good as the guys in the late 80s early 90s

[@tobiasrabesvendsen9553]

@@blackconclave1962 nah hakeem better

[@marketl2382]

U can’t stop roasting the Malone and Stockton jazz 😂😂

[@winchester4053]

How the hell is stocktkon the most overrated player tho... like bruh it's the opposite he's underrated

[@pizzabagelz1204]

@@winchester4053 hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaa hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaa hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahaa ahahaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha,you are so funny

[@akin242002]

@@winchester4053 Agreed! All times steals leader, great passer, and an underrated 3-point shooter. He just wasn't a selfish scorer. Prime Stockton was content with 17 ppg and 14 assists per game.

[@Abbad1579]

@@akin242002 Choked in the playoffs, not enough accomplishments, never the leader of a team.

[@akin242002]

@@Abbad1579 I agree with your last point about not being a leader. However, he never really choked in the playoffs. He shot 47% overall in the playoffs, 10 assists on 2.8 turnovers per game, and 1.9 steals per game.

[@fortniteconnaisseur4127]

When u really look into it you realize Hakeem is better than Shaq

[@ziginaigra]

yes but i still pick shaq :)

[@yessir7630]

@@ziginaigra kinda dumb la

[@melvynsngltn27]

At losing in the first round. I thought to be better than someone you has to surpass what they did not achieve less correct????

[@brendanbloom3366]

@@melvynsngltn27 team success has nothing to do with who's a better player. Hakeem didn't play with penny, Kobe, and wade.

[@ziginaigra]

@@yessir7630 you?

[@edmundjones8500]

I went in legit thinking you would choose shaq but I think you convinced me too Hakeem was actually better. Great vid

[@Coolbreezemcm]

When Kenny started shaking, I was like why is he shaking? then I heard ITS OVER 💀

[@Doknot-tb9ey]

The shaking was a bit much.

[@aiyachristian]

Remember while Shaq was still young in Orlando the man was averaging over 26 a game and grabbing 11+ boards.... and Hakeem still schooled him.

[@ChrisM07]

Shaq actually averaged 28 in that series.

[@standardofexcellence]

Hakeem, he had offensive versatility defense and could actually hit free throws consistently

[@dwight7778]

Shaq is more dominant the dream is more skilled

[@boxingdegenerate9077]

I mean Hakeem won a mvp, defensive player of the year, finals mvp, and a championship all in the same year. But to be fair this was only for a short while.

[@12savage68]

@@boxingdegenerate9077 awards don't really mean anything ....Shaq only has 1 MVP because he was"too big" Steve Nash has 2 mvps because ....

[@boxingdegenerate9077]

1/2 savage true true. But you can’t say Hakeem wasn’t dominant. Winning multiple awards in the same year while destroying some of the best centers of all-time and then winning a title. That’s impressive

[@pinheadsquarefriend4189]

Can agree with that

[@reignmans]

yeah , shaq is the most dominant player to never win a DPOY , rebounding or blocking title. thats dominance right there.

[@piedpiped3267]

I feel like Hakeem doesn’t get enough credit for how great he is all time. He was the best big man in the golden era of big man. Why don’t more people acknowledge him as the greatest center of all time?

[@fenzelian]

You got to admit that center is stacked with all-time greats. Hard to call Hakeem the greatest when the position also has the guy with the most rings, the guy with the most points, and the guy with the best overall average stats by a crazy huge margin. Watching him play was a joy and his skill is rightfully held in very high esteem, but it's hard to point to any one thing with Hakeem that puts him ahead of Russell, Kareem and Chamberlain all at the same time. The one thing that Hakeem should always be recognized for is winning his championships with the least backup. That's definitely one thing he doesn't get enough credit for, for sure.

[@lordbeerus4817]

Bcuz you can't compare him with kareem , kareem has just too much of accomplishments.

[@alibashir3147]

@@fenzelian bill russell was great... for his era. he also had like 5 other HOF players on his rosters. in todays nba, a 6'9 skinny center, with no range at all, and overrated defence skills, would be the next benchwarmer. if hakeem played in todays nba, he'd be a 2 time steal champion, a 10 time block champion, and with inflated numbers, becaus of the terrrible defence at the center position, like KAT and jokic.

[@ogquincyy]

Hakeem literally destroyed every all time great center he faced. This mans hit list includes Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, and Kareem. And I’m pretty sure if Russell and wilt played in the 90s they would get embarrassed as well. Oh yea he had the least amount of help compared to others at his position. How can he not be the best center ever?

[@ericl826]

Lord Beerus in the easiest era possible literally no comp

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

I feel like they’re interchangeable depending on what style you prefer. Shaq was more bully and Hakeem was more finesse. The both could get it done in there own ways. Edit: lol just realized he said exactly what i was thinking after watching the full video.

[@lisaechabor598]

exactly

[@winchester4053]

But they're bullies Shaq makes elite defenders look like ragdolls Hakeem make elite defenders look like fools

[@UIMGodzilla]

Great topic rusty, i always go back and forth on this one

[@BBallRambles]

This was one of your best videos man. Your thoughtful explanations of everything are appreciated.

[@eliekazmouz4450]

Love you bro you r my goat

[@MrMathsimon]

Hakeem "The Dream" is the correct answer.

[@heyitsgurm3509]

I j realized how many people underlook you taking your time to get these visuals for us done on photoshop, such a hassle respect to you man Ik how repetitive editing and photoshop etc can be. Another great video j wanted to give you props.

[@kugodx9]

Really enjoying this series, keep up the good work

[@rundamic3373]

Nobody: Rusty: I think Hakeem is greater than Shaq, it’s close but I’d have to go with Shaq

[@noahcunningham3166]

Finally Hakeem gettin tha respect he deserves

[@scottkellogg2180]

Big fan of your page man! Your consistent content and in-depth material is why you’re easily my favorite NBA KZbinr. I’d love to see you keep up the “versus” series.

[@buggus1173]

This is easily my favorite series of yours.

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

Hakeem! Easy! More skilled, extremely loyal, best blocker all time. 2 time champ and SWEPT Shaq Also Hakeem was the better playmaker and it WASNT EVEN CLOSE dude

[@samueldukes4173]

he was a better playmaker and it's not even close??? whether shaq was in orlando, LA, or Miami, he had a player on his team leading the league in 3pt shooting. Shaq was a very willing passer.

[@ericl826]

Samuel Dukes being a willing passer doesn’t mean ur a good playmaker

[@samueldukes4173]

@@ericl826 it doesn't??? If shaq is on teams where he has guards that lead the league in 3pt shooting, that's not a good playmaker??? How exactly is hakeem a good playmaker????

[@ericl826]

Samuel Dukes how is shaq contributing to those assists? Please provide info

[@donovanm5128]

Samuel Dukes lmfao having a leading three pointer on your team means nothing, especially for a center. I do believe though that their playmaking abilities are very comparable, if not even.

[@luqmedali5025]

Hakeem is my favourite player of all-time. I rank him 2nd best center behind Kareem.

[@elizahamilton2895]

Wilt and bill but hes up there

[@LuigiNemuelBGrino]

Great content. And love the shirt, brother!

[@Toad22484]

Rusty I look forward to these videos every day. Whether or not I agree with you I always learn interesting view points and arguments that make me rethink the value of positions and players in general. Your knowledge and love for the game is quite apparent in every video and honestly I've learned a lot more about bball this year than I ever have. Thanks for all the consistently good and entertaining content 💪

[@MrShawnCoffetti]

Great video, Paul Pierce vs Carmelo Anthony would be a cool comparison keep up the good work!

[@jimmyjay689]

Not in the same sentence ..lmao...one is a one dimensional journeyman who never played defense

[@MrShawnCoffetti]

@@jimmyjay689 Agreed, don't get me wrong I'm a Pierce fan but I think alot of people don't know that because of Carmelo's more visually pleasing game and lack of basketball knowledge all together

[@oteliogarcia1562]

Hakeem is my favorite, so... Also, he made the Finals in his 2nd season, dethroning the Lakers. After that, he lost his frontcourt partner, Ralph Sampson, to injuries and eventual trade, and his little guys to suspensions and bans. If the Rockets were able to keep that team around him, healthy and competitive, who knows?

[@SK-ScorpioKing01]

Amazing video rusty, been bing watching all of these and I’m gonna subscribe and like them all.... keep up the amazing work

[@halam899live8]

Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job

[@samglickman5961]

As someone who watched DREAM and SHAQ win their titles, I have to agree-Olajuwon won two titles with far less help than Shaq. You didn't mention that the first Rockets title team was filled with good shooters AND the perfect power forward to complement Hakeem, Otis Thorpe. He was a gritty, double-double guy who had been an All Star a few seasons prior. He was like a cross between Charles Oakley and Horace Grant. Shaq was utterly dominant as well, especially against the Pacers in the first championship run where he looked like a man playing against middle schoolers. Besides Kobe, the Lakers also had Glen Rice that year, who could still light teams up from the perimeter. I go with Olajuwon for his defense and his insane agility. But you can't go wrong either way here...like comparing Bird and Magic, there's no wrong answer.

[@starwarsnewsandmemes8289]

After enough episodes of this, I think people will want you to update your top 50 list.

[@markuscordova2246]

Thank you very much, Rusty :)

[@itsjustjo1909]

Let’s go more of these

[@camh1809]

Before I watch the video, I'm just gonna say Hakeem is greater cuz I'm a biased ass rockets fan. This video might change my opinion tho

[@ezraprzytyk]

*Kanye voice* Yo shaq, I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you finish... BUT HAKEEM HAD THE BEST SEASON OF ALL TIME!

[@drehitemup9904]

Nah 2016 steph and 13 lebron

[@ovandograham7793]

Naseer Williams Steph didn’t win the chip otherwise I’d agree with you

[@guyfrommadagascar4566]

Yeah Steph that blew a 3-1 lead

[@ezraprzytyk]

@@drehitemup9904 Steph didn't get a ring, finals MVP or dpoy.... He did average 30 on 50/40/90 which insane but to have the greatest ever you can't be missing all three of those.

[@abcdefgabcdefg8682]

You deserve a subscription for this

[@TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan]

sick channel banner dude!

[@hamzaibrahim9804]

I feel like how they matched up against each other should matter more in this conversation

[@Jmxd21]

If thats the case Hakeem wins 😂

[@prometheus1711]

fun fact: hakeem was the only player in the nba to win back to back championship as a lone superstar

[@awesomereviews1561]

He had Drexler the second time around.

[@zGrover402]

What about Isaiah Thomas?

[@guyfrommadagascar4566]

@@awesomereviews1561 Clyde Drexler is 36 years old when he joined Hakeem in 95

[@charliecoslett54]

Good video and script! I suggest putting clips in of player highlights that demonstrate the points you're making, that would make it even more enjoyable to watch

[@b.x.2845]

Nice video, do a Kidd vs Nash next

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

The best centers of the time during Shaq's dominance were Ben Wallace, maybe Yao? There was really nothing at the superstar level aside from Shaq. When Olajuwon played there were Ewing, Kareem, Shaq, Parish, Robinson, Mutombo, Mourning, Smits, etc. Teams were led by their centers and there was a bunch of talent in the paint. Obviously Shaq is incredible but Olajuwon dominated pretty much all the great centers of his era while Shaq dominated mostly guys who weren't even near his level.

[@ikeaman7247]

Mutombo was never a superstar

[@b.x.2845]

Shaq faced Mutombo and Smits in the finals, and Robinson in the playoffs like 5 times

[@amirabans1127]

@@b.x.2845 They were old and past their prime

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

@@ikeaman7247 I didn't say he was. Neither was Smits. But that's why it's a different paragraph. Cool name btw.

[@ikeaman7247]

Max 117 thx

[@Heart_ken01]

6:29 YES EXACTLY! How the hell did Gasol win DPOY when the same media didn't even think he was the best defender in his position?

[@andrewduncan3214]

he deserved dpoy, he just hot robbed of first team

[@DuckReeder]

Andrew Duncan The bronsexuals are about to be coming at you now lol.

[@AntOfWar]

Duck Reeder you realize that you can think Lebron deserved DPOY without being a bronsexual right

[@DuckReeder]

Ant Of War Yeah, I am just saying some people like you and I know that he deserved it but the Bronsexuals think it was the biggest crime in sports history and people like Nick Wright say he still technically got the award.

[@AntOfWar]

Duck Reeder oh yea I get ya my bad for coming at ya like that

[@j-dog7245]

love these vids, a bird vs magic comparsion would be nice to see

[@Doknot-tb9ey]

Agreed.

[@dudelittle147]

I have magic all day

[@ninetailstoji2313]

Sweet lord rusty, thank goodness someone on youtube finally made this video and validated my opinion

[@egg8133]

KD vs Steph or Barkley vs Malone

[@krlllx]

barkley vs malone isnt a contest. And rusty would just refer to malone as 'the pedophile' the whole time.

[@lordbeerus4817]

Kd vs Steph is interesting but they still have some prime years left soo

[@iranianintelligenceagency9337]

@Clippers Suck I'd take KD. Steph would be forced to create insane amounts of space just to get a good shot off on a quick KD. Even if he does, KD will score like Curry isn't there.

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

In sumo, Shaq, but in the game of basketball, Hakeem all the way.

[@jacoblenhart8207]

Wow this is a underrated channel

[@raiden1876]

Bro i was sleeping and woke up to find this video playing and started to watch it

[@jordanjenkins1671]

Shaq's greater in the sense that he has a more memorable legacy and more rings and FMVPs. However Hakeem was no doubt better than Shaq--1v1, doing more with less, and being the most dominant big man during the best big man era. It can always be said that Hakeem took a 6th seed to the championship while Shaq only made the Finals with a star teammate (Penny, Kobe, then Wade).

[@clarissawestbrook2203]

Excellent analysis.

[@williammckay6273]

Shaq at his absolute peak might be the greatest ever. I’ll take Hakeem for the entire body of work though. DPOY, NBA champ, Finals MVP, gave MVP Robinson the work, outplayed shaq in the finals. What more can you say 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@12savage68]

By outplayed you mean Shaq averaged more rebounds , assists ,blks , and shot 60% to hakeems 48% ...🤔

[@williammckay6273]

1 more rebound and 1 more assist.. good try Nick Wright. Shaq is on record saying he was outplayed.

[@12savage68]

@@williammckay6273 Shaq is on record saying he was double teamed the entire series and Hakeem wasn't...😂😂😂

[@michaelmcphee2006]

I think Shaq's edge offensively is even greater than you gave him credit for. He caused such chaos and collapsed defences like crazy. Everything else you said is true though. I have them flip flopping between 10 and 11, and I always want to put Hakeem at 10 because he was my favourite in the 90s, but I usually end on Shaq at 10 because he was just so dominant.

[@bombeofam4670]

Can u make a video about mj vs petrovic? And ur content iz gooooooddd its fireee and the goat!!!!

[@joandtybrovids8027]

I think it’s really close. I don’t get why people talk about shaq way more then they talk about Hakeem. Everyone says shaq is most dominant, but nobody ever talks about how Hakeem was a shot blocking machine. I also feel like lots of casual nba fans know who shaq is and a lot less know about Hakeem. It’s probably just cuz shaq is on inside the nba and he’s memes for being a terrible shooter

[@lisaechabor598]

hakeem really wasn't soo flashy

[@Alex-xj8bi]

I got Hakeem about 2 spots higher

[@swpdisciple]

Good analysis. The only shame in this whole thing was that David Robinson didn’t play better in the 1995 WCF because he was sooo capable of doing so. Hakeem and DRob played against each other like 40 times or so and the numbers are even but with DRob posting better efficiencies and winning the vast majority Of the matchups. I’m not sure what happened in that one and only playoff series they had. My guess is that if that series was played 10 times, the usual results would emerge. That series was low key like Lebron vs Dallas in 2011. Inexplicable but so important to the history of the NBA.

[@emilwoerner9808]

Please do a whole video on the Hakeem ‘95 playoff run. I think it’s up there with the Dirk run and the Kawhi run for best of all time

[@Abbad1579]

Duncan in 2003: Am I a joke to you?

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

Do you agree MVP awards would hold more weight if players voted on the MVP like back in the 60s?Kobe would of had atleast 3 mvps

[@austincarey7504]

I think they would but, but I don’t think they would be as accurate. I feel like players might not vote for players they dont like even if they deserved it

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

Austin Carey and the media doesn’t do the same? Come on bro

[@mazengwe28]

Kobe did not deserve 2 more MVPs. He might have an argument over 1 of Steve Nash's MVP's, but not over Duncan, Garnett, Lebron, or Dirk Nowitski.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

Warren Mazengwe your telling me Kobe wouldn’t have been voted by the PLAYERS for atleast 3 mvps? You sound like a casual

[@mazengwe28]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 No I am not a casual. Those other players had phenomenal seasons when they got their MVPs. It's not like Kobe wasn't still getting top 5 votes.

[@memoordonez9297]

Good one

[@vt248]

👀 bro!!! You got me on dis one

[@ndog0639]

Plz Doctor J vs LeBron Julius is hardly spoken about now but in his time was commonly considered the GOAT

[@denisp8432]

He was considered the Goat in his time because Kareem was hated my the media so they pushed The Doctor because he was more likeable and marketable even though looking back at it Kareem was way better

[@ndog0639]

@@denisp8432 I see your point, and am a big Kareem fan. Honestly I asked half just because I want Rusty to evaluate his opinion on Julius, and and maybe even on James

[@ndog0639]

@@denisp8432 also remember he wasn't just competing with Kareem, he was also placed above Wilt and Bill fairly often

[@ripetika1600]

Larry Legend vs LeBum

[@hugovazquez7533]

Compare Alex Len vs. Luke Kornet

[@krlllx]

the one we were all waiting for

[@GrogMindwhip]

Or Kurt Rambis vs. Bo Kimble, perhaps.

[@LeBronJames_3012]

Shaq said himself, that Hakeem is the greatest center of all time to him. He just couldn’t break him, no matter what he did

[@kurtallen12]

This video puts so many of my reasons why I believe Hakeem>Shaq into a clear, coherent, and structured argument. Really well done man. I love how much you take into account and what value you put on each aspect of the comparison. Great video!

[@talenhorton-tucker2153]

Shaq could have been the goat, but hakeem reached his potential. I got hakeem.

[@Scarry-pb2tp]

I got a question, where does Kareem rank with these guys? I presume that he is better than both of them but idk

[@sophiawilliams8650]

kareem is considered consesus top 3 of all time

[@GatorGirl04]

Great video commentary. Two of my favorite players all-time. Hakeem was absolutely beautiful to watch so long and skilled and all finesse and fierce defender. And THANK YOU for the side tangent about Shaq's Orlando days. Shaq in Orlando >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaq in LA

[@Solokid404]

12:07 to 12:17 the way you said all that has me rolling LMAO

[@Zecamilleo]

We all love Shaq and agree he is one of the all time greats. but lets face it, he won the genetic lottery. If he were a "regular size center" he probably would be just a ok player. Hakeem was a better player.

[@energyzer_bunny1913]

Shaq was skinny in Orlando. He went out of his way to put on weight.

[@basketballunwrapped3161]

HAKEEM IS THE BEST CENTER OF ALL TIME.

[@johngarrubba1202]

Um buddy did u forget Kareem, Bill Russell, and maybe Wilt!?

[@ny_kid8685]

I have Kareem as the best

[@hkmamba824]

Facts imo ✌🏽

[@quantum7495]

I only have Kareem because of Longevity

[@basketballunwrapped3161]

@@johngarrubba1202 Wilt was a MAJOR underperformer in the playoffs, Bill Russel was dominant but didnt nearly dominate as many all time great big men as hakeem did. Bill also had ALOT MORE HELP than hakeem. Kareem had longevity and accolades but those mainly came from the great supporting cast he had which is wayy better than what hakeem had. Kareem also didnt dominate as much against great competition wlike hakeem did with practically no help. Hes easily the most skilled and well rounded center also.

[@petercook9348]

I’m soooo pleased you did this video. I am biased as I am a huge Hakeem fan. If Hakeem had played his career with more help, I think his accolades would be even better. He may be the best all round center if all time. People forget he is still top 10 in steals and his assist numbers were very strong too. I agree this is very very close and probably preference based. But I have Hakeem too.

[@rossjn9885]

Great video! I went from barely choosing Dream over Shaq to hands down taking Hakeem the Dream over Shaq!

[@hugovazquez7533]

Jordan vs. Denis Smith Jr.?

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

It’s funny because i feel like this is the same argument between the “Giannis or Harden” debate, skill vs dominance.

[@jegbryrmegikke1]

thats actually really funny

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

Sosa Laflare yeah every person in The NBA is skilled to some degree but you cannot compare his skill to Hakeems

[@verbalkint3447]

Hakeem had skill. Harden abuses a rule book already heavily skewed in favor of the offensive player. Cmon man

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

i g ok do you know how hard it is to be that close to illegal. It takes mastery of hand placement, timing, thinking under pressure, and foot placement. One wrong move and it’s a travel. By saying what you said you are undermining how skillful harden is. Many players are picking up some of Hardens moves but they haven’t mastered it to the extent of harden.

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

i g Harden is an all around great player. Can drive to the basket, can shoot the mid, can shoot the three, has good handles, great passer, can finish through contact, can rebound. His WORST quality is good defense. I said it like that because unlike many stereotypes harden is actually a good defender, not as elite as his offense but still good

[@ironangel667]

People don't know but Hakeem was just as good as Jordan, but had crappy teams. In his second year he led his team to the NBA finals. He did that with one all-star, an injured starting pg, and only 6 years after touching a basketball. Also you didn't mention his steals, his quadruple dbls, or his insane amount of 100/200 seasons, or how he would be in the top 10 in 5 of the main statistical category every year. Points, rebounds, shooting %, blocks, and steals.

[@fennisdembo34]

eternal disagreement on stock aside, GREAT comparison as they've all been so far. i particularly agree on the kenny smith thing. but really, great job overall

[@pjwashington9599]

Hmm 20 likes, 4 comments, no views SOUNDS RIGHT TO ME!!

[@krlllx]

Who cares

[@pjwashington9599]

Krlllx dude it’s a joke

[@0DIE__]

Shaq all day everyday man

[@anshgombar7173]

If I’m building a team with one player to lead me, Hakeem If I have a second star, SHAQ

[@twomangame4170]

Great video & yeah hakeem for us as well over @ TMG. One of the most underrated great players ever. The most skilled center of all time

[@MarkLaw13]

Shaq said Hakeem was just too good for him. He said Hakeem was the only guy he couldn't get to.

[@pokehontez7]

Hakeem is my #1 center of all time. The most skilled and best defensive center of his era (which had the most competition at his position) and those before him while standing at a legit 6'10. If he scored 3 more points per game in 93-94 he'd have won the MVP, DPOY, the scoring title, and Finals MVP and it would have been the greatest single-season performance by any player ever with 0 arguments. I personally still regard it as the best. Comparing him to players from the '60s or even '70s is laughable to me considering fewer teams to compete with and the lack of parity in the league. A few players were dominating others who were 6 to 14 inches smaller than them most every night. I have great respect for the players of old who paved the way for every other athlete to follow them but just like with baseball, the game just wasn't as impressive.

[@hPeAiUdLe]

Great video. I’ve always like Olajuwon over Shaq. Could you take a closer look at Patrick Ewing especially at 94 finals. That went to game 7. I think Ewing is not that far from these 2.

[@enthronedking]

Hakeem is better, Shaq is greater. People ALWAYS confuse the two. There's a reason Russell is ranked higher than the much more skilled Wilt by just about everyone, and why the good-not-great at scoring Magic Johnson is still thought of as the GOAT point guard by many despite what Steph can do, or why Duncan is considered the GOAT power forward over the more skilled and versatile Barkley and KG, and so on. Shaq doesn't have the skill and the defense of Hakeem. True. But in his prime he was just so ridiculously dominant it was like watching a cartoon. He's the greater player.

[@Zamppa86]

I totally agree with you! Even though Shaq won 4 and Hakeem 'just' 2 those rings have different value. As you stated Hakeem had way less support during his prime and way more competition. Shaq got very big amount of help from Kobe and Wade during his championships. When you were talking about help and support I started to imagine a what if scenario. Shaq had a young Kobe and a young Wade during his career. What if Hakeem actually had a young/prime Drexler during his career for lets say, 5-6 seasons? Would Hakeem have more rings than those 2 he did actually win? I say a prime tandem of Olajuwon and Drexler would have won atleast 3 rings together as they both made the finals without each other.

[@gngr2]

Mad respect for popping off strays at Stockton and Malone

[@philbanddrummer]

9:53 - Amen and thank you!

[@CW-hq2qr]

U make great points. But something I feel you missed was how dominant Shaq was in all 3 of his finals and the fact that shaq was the only super star in 90s to knock off jordans bulls