Making More Money on Low and Mid Grade Boards

[@sharkscrapper]

Link to BI video I mentioned: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onjPdGOBj9drqLs&pp=gAQBiAQB

[@carlgodfrey2974]

Both videos were very informative. I will look forward to seeing more videos. Thanks for all you do Shark.

[@sharkscrapper]

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed them.

[@josephcormier5974]

This is a good idea as long as you don't lose money on it thank you for sharing this information with us six stars brother

[@sharkscrapper]

LOL - everything's a good idea if I don't lose money on it. Shame I don't have many good ideas 😆

[@DanielHouston-uw3ir]

So, this is something ive been looking for for awhile now! How much are they paying for low grade?

[@josephcormier5974]

@DanielHouston-uw3ir you will have to ask Sharkey as my yard doesn't buy any boards sorry sir

[@sharkscrapper]

@ Daniel, email me and let's chat.

[@simonkh7278]

Hey, nice mention on Mint recycling company. I have been checking on them recently. Very nice that US boards market will have a solid player backed by innovations. Bioleaching is not new, but it is a thing. I believe scrap pcb boards will be a commodity soon, maybe a backing for digital asset. This way , the usage of crypto tech can be productive...

[@murlbailer3755]

I take off everything that I think is worth recycling. That includes all copper,brass and aluminum. I never sell unstripped copper wire. Since I am strictly a micro stripper I feel it’s to my advantage in the long run 👍. Where I live one of the most scrapped items is big 📺’s. If I get it before the maintenance man (large apartment building). I think you’re videos are worth watching 🤣. I love talking things apart.

[@sharkscrapper]

Glad to hear you're enjoying the videos and a part of the scrap/recycling movement. Keep up the good work reducing what goes into our landfills.

[@andrewpowellnz]

Another good Kiwi start up.

[@sharkscrapper]

For sure!

[@FreekingAwwsome]

Great video BrUdDeR @Shark Scrapper

[@sharkscrapper]

tanks, tanks a lot 😆😆

[@patrickbirdsey6940]

The one with all the ics I would have cut the screen off and put it in mid grade but it looked to have the old style mlccs by the ic chips that have a potential for palladium and silver

[@sharkscrapper]

This load is a mix of low and mid-grade boards. Question: Do you refine the MLCC's yourself or sell them?

[@MtnManScrap]

Hi Shark! Where I’m located, LG boards go for $.10-.15/lb local, and the same yard will take the small Cu transformers for $.45/lb! I feel it’s worth the couple seconds to pluck off those transformers for the extra return.

[@sharkscrapper]

If I had the same option I would do the same. My yard only takes them as shred. So until I can find other arrangements leaving them on the boards works to my advantage.

[@MtnManScrap]

@ definitely region-dependent!!

[@urbanprospector3007]

I wonder if Mint would be open to more smaller scrappers that put together full gaylords for them, maybe 1 or 2 times a year. I could probably put together 2-3 gaylords each time if so.

[@sharkscrapper]

I'll have that conversation with them after the plant is up and operating.

[@carlgodfrey2974]

Im look at it this way too. But I could send a box every 2 or 3 months. Maybe monthly if thing go good.

[@ScorpionMetals]

Good one

[@Deescrapsescraps]

I’m in the same boat. Got to scrap out the low grade

[@Plains_Scrapper]

I used to rip off the transformers from the low grade boards. But i noticed the electric motors/ transformers shifted in price to be less than low grade boards. Not overly long ago it was reversed. It makes it hard to know if i should pull it or leave it. I will have to keep monitoring the prices.

[@sharkscrapper]

It is real work to stay on top of pricing. Especially when some yards still play the we've got a secret game and aren't up front with their pricing.

[@Plains_Scrapper]

I suspect the buyer for the motors changed or they changed their business practices. Because they got picky on how clean (no plastic or circuit board remnants)the motors needed to be about the time the price dropped.

[@sharkscrapper]

That sounds like they either got a new buyer or their old buyer got a lot stricter. I've heard the same from other scrappers.

[@jr-a-cat]

That is one way to bump up the price of transformers and not have to touch them . Box them up and ship them out

[@al9929]

I've been meaning to share this info for a while now. First here. Precious metals prices are just beginning a period of extreme price appreciation. This will resukt in all these cb's going up in value exponentially, as they are priced as residual value at the margin. Imho, it would be prudent for scrappers of all stripes to learn more about cb grading/processing as cb's become sought after by even the lowest level scrap collection. Good luck scrappers. Start storing the stuff that pays poorly if you can.

[@sharkscrapper]

If you're going to make such a claim and use my channel to promote it you owe my viewers facts and a basis for your recommendation. What is the basis for your forecast?

[@al9929]

The basis for my claim is that the current financial system in place in the western world is cracking and about to collapse. What this means is that gold and silver will need to be revalued much higher. Order of magnitude higher. JP Morgan testified to congress about a hundred years ago that 'gold is money, everything else is credit'. Well we are in a debt based collapse - just beginning. It is a big subject. Maneco64 is the best place to learn more. I post this only trying to help. A lot of people will suffer in the next few years. If a few suffer less, that is great. God Bless.

[@al9929]

It is a shame that you decided to delete my response. I had nothing to gain or loose by posting. I was just trying to help. Not sure why you were so incensed by my prediction for very large increases in values of pcb's over the next few years. Anyhow, I do enjoy your videos and I do learn a great deal from your sharing, so thank you for that.

[@sharkscrapper]

While I absolutely agree that physical gold and silver are essential investment assets. The fear of monetary collapse has been used for a very long time to get people to buy physical gold and silver. Certainly some countries have seriously mismanaged their economies and their people suffered run away inflation as a result. No industrialized nation is immune from errors in monetary policy, including the US. I started paying serious attention to monetary policy, investing, and precious metals over a decade ago. From the very beginning people were saying the collapse of fiat currency is just around the corner. Yet here we are. My real concern is that if the world's fiat currencies do collapse, we are going to have a very serious societal challenge. I do believe gold and silver will rise in the future. Likely not exponentially as that would mean some very serious problems in the world order to include massive global conflict not seen since WWII. If this does happen I'd much rather have my gold and silver in some form of recognized coin or bullion. PCB's would still need to be processed to get the value from them.

[@sharkscrapper]

I don't recall deleting a comment by you. The only comments I delete are those containing hate speech, politics, or some combination of the two.

[@patrickbirdsey6940]

I own a small Electronic Recycling business in Alabama I never pull the copper coils and aluminum off only go for ic and the old style mlccs rest stays on and sell with the board

[@sharkscrapper]

I always enjoy the conversation about to remove and why/why not. If you're interested, I'd enjoy continuing the conversation via email: [e-mail]

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

I’ve been told even with no visible gold. There are very fine teenie tiny gold bonding wires in the middle of ICs I need to buy a microscope to get some 1st person confirmation 🔬 😅

[@sharkscrapper]

Yes, some IC's have gold bonding wires the size of a hair or smaller. That's why many scrappers take all IC's regardless. But not all IC's have gold. I haven't found a definitive method for telling them apart.

[@ScrappinLou]

As a hobby scrapper I openly weep when I see the toroids, aluminum heat sinks, etc. go in with the boards...but I understand I'm a hobby scrapper and I don't do it for a living so time is on a different scale for you and I.

[@sharkscrapper]

Time is indeed a very different thing for us. It warms my heart to read that you recognize that. When I first started as a hobby scrapper I also removed as much as I could. I took pride in all that I removed. When I decided to go pro, the math changed significantly. We need both hobby and pros in this effort. Thank you for being part of it and keep up the good work.

[@DanielHouston-uw3ir]

Hey Shark, this is something I've been looking to do, get rid of all my low grade. Do you know what they are paying?

[@sharkscrapper]

I'm not at liberty to discuss their pricing. Email me and lets chat [e-mail]

[@chatucker]

Wait... you said that box was 42lbs... and then wrote down 32lbs? Was that a mistake or did you do another box?

[@sharkscrapper]

LOL - I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that. Different box.

[@chrispalmer6336]

@@sharkscrapper except i didnt see a "42" written down on your log sheet.

[@sharkscrapper]

That shot was recorded before but I didn't realize that when I was editing until way too late to make the change.

[@bryansloesshillshomestead4523]

How does the shipping pan out? That has to cost a lot to ship a Gaylord box.

[@sharkscrapper]

It's actually less per pound than shipping 40-50 boxes or USPS flat rate boxes. The last two Gaylords I shipped were about $0.40/lbs as opposed to my usual $0.75 - $1/lbs when shipping a 40-50 lbs box by UPS.

[@patrickbirdsey6940]

​@sharkscrapper hope they are paying good for low grade that don't leave but about 0.10 a pound after shipping less seeing you have the weight of the Gaylord and pallet

[@sharkscrapper]

Even if I only make $0.10/lbs in profit after shipping, it's better than the zero I'm getting locally 🤣 Sometimes the only profit is in the margins in the scrap world.

[@al9929]

I don't see the link to Business Insider interview

[@sharkscrapper]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/onjPdGOBj9drqLs&pp=gAQBiAQB

[@al9929]

Thanks very much Shark. Really appreciate it!

[@danielwinger7382]

I have a gaylord box of the old 2foot x 2foot led red/amber lights on one side, components covered in a (poly?) lacquer? on the other side. Would Mint take those units? BS will not. Thanks for the info, and for what you do.

[@sharkscrapper]

send me a picture, [e-mail] and I'll find out.

[@homestead36]

Are you moving from board sort

[@sharkscrapper]

Absolutely not. Chris and I have an outstanding relationship and will continue to do business for a long, long time. It is not at all uncommon to have multiple buyers. This is business and diversifying one's revenue stream is very important for long term success. The important thing is to always be honest with all your buyers. In the grand scheme of things, it's a small industry - secrets and untruths don't age well.

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

@@sharkscrapperwholeheartedly agree! Competition makes businesses thrive. You HAVE to shop around so to speak. I go to multiple scrap yards and tell them so. I call one yard while I’m at another to get a “price check” or price match or price beat . Depends on the day depends on the scrap! At the end of the day friendships are great to have but everyone has to make money!

[@sharkscrapper]

Spot on

[@MerchantMetals]

great vid!

[@sharkscrapper]

Glad you liked it!

[@al9929]

What is the current rate paid for such low to mid grade? Where I live the yard pays me less than shred so I just throw them all into shred. I hate it, knowing they are woeth more.

[@sharkscrapper]

As with all scrap, it depends. I'll get much better than scrap for these. While I can't disclose my negotiated price on these you can easily see what Boardsort is paying by going to Boardsort.com.

[@patrickbirdsey6940]

Shipping is what kills you on making decent money on low grade stuff you should still be able to ship mid grade and make some money on it. I'm located in Alabama so it sucks shipping stuff

[@sharkscrapper]

@ If I wasn't shipping Gaylord quantities at LTL rates this would not be doable.

[@Sgarcia-h2c]

Do you think mint will be buying ewaste from the public similar to boardsort?

[@sharkscrapper]

Not right away. But maybe after they get up and running?

[@chrispalmer6336]

You wrote down 32 pd's for that load you dumped, but you weighed it in at 42 (45 -3 for the tote). Don't short change your self. Now I know why e-waste Ben is saving his low grade boards as well, because of the new plant in Australia. Good to know.

[@sharkscrapper]

That was an editing error. I used a section of recording not in the right order. Your the second person to catch that. Good job.

[@charmspeakjewelrydesignstu7224]

What do you do if a board cracks into pieces( intentionally or not intentionally 😅)? Asking for a friend 😂

[@sharkscrapper]

😅 tell your friend to ship it with the low grade 🤣

[@charmspeakjewelrydesignstu7224]

@ thanks😎

[@Nick-h1h]

Umbrella you have low mid and high grade in that box...don't sell till you talk to me

[@sharkscrapper]

Not sure what you mean by "umbrella". Yes, it is a Gaylord of low and mid-grade boards as noted in the video. Fell free to email me at [e-mail] if you'd like to chat.

[@murlbailer3755]

I’m not recycling to give it away. 👎

[@sharkscrapper]

I'm not sure what part of this video suggested that I'm giving anything away. I've negotiated a very reasonable rate for these boards which will be properly recycled with good reclamation rates and some of the best environmental considerations.

[@billyb5057]

good to explore getting best money for these pcbs mate *🌞have a cool weekend🔆👍like☑full view✅🥸Au🦘*

[@sharkscrapper]

Have a great weekend, mate!