Sharpening a spyderco pm3 s110v to hair whittling edge

I like this steel so far. Takes a fantastic edge
Stones used: dmt 320 c dmt 600 f dmt 1200 ef and a dialux blue strop

[@user-sy4yz5zf3h]

Great video! Is it just me? So relaxing watching this video.

[@jlsouth7337]

Rough Rooster slaying it like always! Thanks for the info. I bought a native 5 in s110v then got to second guessing it after hearing the horror stories about sharpening it. You have restored my hope

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

JL South yea s110v takes a nasty toothy edge. I don’t like it like I do s90v but it’s ok

[@stevekushman3030]

Nice video Chris. Always like to see your sharpening techniques. Amazing how fast you can sharpen a blade including a reprofile to begin with.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Steve Kushman thanks man. I've done it so long it just happens lol

[@barkingspider2007]

Great Video! Sharp in 3 steps, outstanding. : )

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Thank you

[@pcooke9865]

Great as always! You're gonna love that s110v.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

potatochip gaming I carried it today. And man does it cut well!

[@pcooke9865]

I guarantee it! It's awesome steel! Glad you're enjoying it.

[@nolobede]

When I sharpen like this, the motion and rhythm relaxes me to a point of stalling the blade on the stone.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

nolobede sounds like you need meds 🤪

[@markreddoch6047]

Great job!

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Mark Reddoch thank you

[@chefboy2160]

Chris you have about got me sold on some DMTs as they appear to be much faster than my old Norton combo of medium and India and the less strokes the less chance of messing up. Thanks for the video and have a great week!

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Douglas Cobb they are much faster. Have a good week to

[@chrisdiehl8387]

Awesome video. I wish I had that skill.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

aquatichris you can bud! Just keep watching and learning. It'll come to u with practice.

[@ninjacow63]

Awesome video as always. You have convinced me to save up money and get DMT plates. I also am looking for a good Washita stone. Unfortunately all the information I find is not consistent regarding this stone, I'm really looking forward to your video on Washitas as well. I always feel confident when I make purchases with information you provide. I also know when you recommend any type of stone or knife, the quality is guaranteed to be there without question. Thank you and I hope you have a great weekend.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Hector Diaz man I appreciate that. I only recommend what I know works well and based upon performance. You will LOVE dmt. They make crazy edges.

[@littlebabycarrotful]

I do enjoy these videos. He sharpens the way I used to before I discovered these skills can become perishable. The last 2 years relearning this was made easier using this as a reference

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Neal Ohanian I appreciate that

[@billding9797]

Dam he's got the magic touch, i see a online sharpening store in the future.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Already have one

[@tuberaider]

Interesting you mentioned that at the 02:24 mark. I think the thing you're talking about is autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR). Lots of people find that soft sound of the blade being sharpened to be relaxing. There are channels dedicated to this stuff, and I'm sure it would not bore them.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Yea ive seen that.

[@SharpThinkingKnives]

Hey brother! Found ur channel finally!!

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Sharp Thinking I just seen this comment. Thank you

[@xxxmmm5942]

Great video. How did you make that choil ?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

xxx mmm with a Dremel

[@Mrplacedcookie]

Really loving S110V! Don't like S35VN ( had to get it out my system) thanks for sharing.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Jorgen Sandstrom no problem

[@preppinainteasy9965]

s35vn hell of a steel bud.....will take a beating like not many others....yea if u want just edge retention 110 if u want durability good s35vn hard to beat....ofcourse any steel is gonna depend where you get it all heat treats different

[@Mrplacedcookie]

@@preppinainteasy9965 its OK. I'm not a fan. Especially in folders.

[@robertfazekas4607]

@@preppinainteasy9965 Hi!! CPM S45vn is good as well?

[@preppinainteasy9965]

@@robertfazekas4607 yea s45vn is excellent,On SS steels there hard to find to get the toughness, like a 3V,Or good old Rowen treated 1095.Yea Haven't got to beat on any s45vn yet but sure I will eventually...👍

[@manifestgtr]

I’m actually with you on s30v. S30v gives me a tougher time than s110v, k390 or m390. The only steel that “eludes” me more is zdp-189. I can get a fine edge with zdp but really need to work it to get it hair whittling. It might be my progression, who knows…

[@satan101101]

That’s what I thought,s30v are harder to sharpen than s110v,k390 for me not because that the material is harder but it quite hard to make fine edge for s30v I feel like the burr is just flexing back and forth instead of coming off.

[@oceanwaves83]

Big fan of your work. M390 definitely raises a burr though. It's just smaller. Typical of high chromium steels.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

The Ace just seems this comment. I’ve never developed a burr on m390

[@PaulK390S90V]

I am having problems with my super steels and getting rid of that tiny burr left after sharpening. Taking forever on my strops and by the time I get it the edge is actually duller from the crazy amount of stropping. I am going to try your signal swipe technique instead of doing repetitive up and down at a 45° ish like if it were s kitchen knife. I think I am getting the burr bigger than it needs to be. I was just doing my s110v native 5 and looked up your video and tried your way but I think I already had a thickish burr from before. So frustrating

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Paul Lonardo try stroking it from one side to the other. Flipping the blade about 10 times or so. Then strip that should help

[@PaulK390S90V]

Rough Rooster Knife Sharpening Edge trailing or leading strokes? I seem to do pretty well when I finish on my atoma 1200 but then when I go to my spyderco fine and ultra fine the burr comes back much thicker and is crazy hard to get it back to nothing or smaller. I know I need real light pressure but in order to get my entire edge polished to what the spyderco stones can do I have to spend a while on them. I wish they made diamond stones that actually go up to 8k...I know dmt does but from everything I've heard the extra extra fine leaves a serious coarse scratch pattern if not broken in. I wish atoma made a finer stone than the 1200, although it is a killer stone and get my knives crazy sharp. Besides my s110v knives apparently lol. If you haven't tried atoma diamond stones you have to man. I had all dmt before and now replaced everuthing with atoma 140, 400, 600, and 1200. Very happy with them. Thanks for the tips man, ill get it. I can make any other steel hair whittling sharp, but not s110v. I mean it shaves hair and everything but not as sharp as it could be ya know? Always seems to be one spot that I can't get the last of the burr. Anyways ill keep watching your vids and keep trying. Thanks

[@Oozy9Millimeetah]

If you don't have your sharpening 100% figured out s110v can be the most frustrating steel to sharpen, but when you get it right 🤩 your in Valhalla pure edge aggression crazy bite...

[@preppinainteasy9965]

wait til u play with maxamet it makes 110 look like aus8...👍

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

@@preppinainteasy9965 that stuff is a pain in the ass, and is not worth the time it takes to sharpen compared to it's edge holding capability. I'd my h rather use something like s90v

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Hey grammar Nazi 🖕

[@roylerroycerickson]

I can get a knife shaving sharp but not hair whittling what do you think makes the difference to make this jump in sharpness? Enjoy your videos

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

It's not always easy to do. And is not very necessary lol. But you have to find a good combination of stones/strops. You CANT have any Burr whatsoever. And you must have a perfect apex and an extremely sharp one at that. It needs to have a good bite as well.

[@scotpelletier7672]

How well do you think Arkansas stones would work on s110v ? Is that what you would use if you wanted to refine the edge further?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Yes I would. And they would work great for a final edge

[@roylerroycerickson]

What was the mistake you made with the tip did you lay it back too far. I just screwed up my new knife a bit sharpening it too so know how you felt :)

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

I can't remember. I'd have to go back and watch to see.

[@whiteamerican]

One of my problems is where to hold the angle. I always feel like I'm not at the right angle

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

That's something that comes with practice

[@kissmychainmayne]

Good stuff sir. I was thinkin about how much more sharp you coulda got it with a longer progression of strops 🤔

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Plastic Gunner I could have defiantly continued. But I like the toothy feel on this one

[@kissmychainmayne]

Rough Rooster Knife Sharpening Fair enough gotta love a coarse edge. Woulda been interesting too see what the ceramic stone did for the edge. I think those spyderco ceramics are alumina based...

[@mattbowman3641]

I was under the impression ceramics + vanadium steels were a no go...carbide tear out...or is that just b.s?

[@jcb6713]

...as Bob Ross calls it, "'a happy accident"... :-) ...have a good week...

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

JCB 67 lol I like bob ross!

[@jamesgentry6864]

I have a couple in m390 and 204p and all of em raise a burr. A large one if I keep after it, I may be using more pressure when I I sharpen maybe idk great vid tho I use chosera stones but I got a pm2 in cpm 10v and I may need to pick up a dmt to cut it

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Your using water stones? I believe your in the wrong place. They don't hold a candle to what I can do.

[@jamesgentry6864]

@@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 I have a kme with diamond stones that raise a burr on m390 as well they may cut a pass or 2 faster but you never raise a burr on m390?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Nope never on m390

[@jamesgentry6864]

@@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 that's interesting do you use very much pressure when you sharpen that's the only thing I can think of unless your m390 is alot harder than mine that could be something to. Thanks bro obviously I'm not saying you cant sharpen I just thought that was interesting cause iv heard similar before but they were talking about m390 not having a stubborn burr , not no burr at all

[@NDeemz]

How do you get a burr when drawing the blade into the stone? Wouldn't the steel fall off the back of the bevel?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

No it will eventually form a burr itself. Just like the oposite side

[@LIE4ME]

When into an edge instead of away im imagining the bur would be smaller and consist of metal peices that pop up away while most lay on the stone... that or hes imagining a bur cause I think what youre thinking - HOW?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Chilly Mike Tube it’s common basic sharpening knowledge. You draw your knife towards you to sharpen. You don’t push away like stropping. It builds a burr in repair. I’m not imagining anything.

[@christiansalazar4604]

When you strop so you use the same angle that you sharpened at or do you do it a little more shallow than you sharpened at?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Christian Salazar well it’s hard to strop at the same angle, because I go backwards. But if you have a coarser compound and go shallower it will probably take your edge off and blunt it. I usually lay it back just a bit further. You aren’t trying to make it sharper by stroping you are simply refining the edge and removing any small trace of a burr that may be left.

[@christiansalazar4604]

Rough Rooster Knife Sharpening I’ll try that, thanks for the reply!

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Christian Salazar no problem man.

[@williams.1130]

If M390 does not raise a burr how do you know when youve reached your apex?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

William Sleight that is where you really need to know what you are doing. You have to look for glints in the light along the edge. And trust your hands.

[@brianlalor]

Why do you use diamond stones? Can it be sharpened on ceramic and normal whet stones?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Because they cut quickly, and they will leave a very sharp toothy edge if you don't want to progress pass them. What do you mean "normal" whet stones?

[@brianlalor]

@@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 I mean normal stones with 400, 1000 on them etc. Thanks for replying. I am trying to find out if I can sharpen my new s110v on the stones I have. They work fine to sharpen my cheaper stainless steel knives. Should I or do I need to invest in some higher quality stones to sharpen this steel?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

What kind of abrasive is it? There are many stones, that say 400 or 1000 on it.

[@brianlalor]

@@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 I need to figure that out, not sure how to. I have a 3000 white ceramic and strop for finishing. Then my other "stone" is double sided 400 & 1000, which I dare not touch the PM2 with until I know more. They work great for sharpening my Victronox and Sog Mini but I believe the SV110 is a much better/different steel. I really appreciate what I am learning from your channel.

[@209chevymon]

what bit was used to put in that mini choil on my para2 i cant sharpen that part of it either

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

I'd have to look in my Dremel kit. It was a small diamond one.

[@209chevymon]

@@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 ok ya i would appreciate it cause that part of the blade is a pain to get to ive tried multiple times and cant get it idk maybe i just suck at sharpening lol

[@Americanmade1997]

Do you do any sharpening with whetstones?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Ben Line have U looked into my channel? I'm all about Arkansas stones.

[@Americanmade1997]

Rough Rooster Knife Sharpening well I meant more towards like Japanesewhetstone. Yeah I've definitely seen your Arkansas stones lol. I haven't had a lot of time to look through your stuff.

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Ben Line I dont consider them whetstones but I use some kings for scandi and convex and thats all. The Japanese naturals nope and I won't.

[@cburgz3697]

I thought you didn't need to lubricate diamond?

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

You don't have to. But I do

[@michaelshults7675]

Why No Arky???

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Michael Shults well this is my 2nd time sharpening this steel. I really liked the edge I got off what I used. When I dull it they will be in the next lineup. In curious myself

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

shannonandsheila1 yea it would and did. 110v isn't bad to sharpen at all. Quit trolling my fuckin videos.

[@preppinainteasy9965]

M390 doesnt raise a bur??for you?I Edc M390 and have about 3 others not trying to disrespect but I get a bur pretty quick..I also sharpen a little different than u...Just tuned in been watchin your stuff glad to see ..I havent found a steel well that I own that doesnt raise a bur...thats counting maxamet...just run 1 side down til apex guarntee bur before u eve. flip to other side..good shit bud glad you do what u do helping everyone....

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

M390 is a completely different animal for me to sharpen. But boy can I get it sharp. And thanks.

[@preppinainteasy9965]

@@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 have u hit any lion steel fixed blades ? my m4 in m390 sharpens up alot easier than my spyder co for sure....And my 20cv which i believe there basically the same just 20 is US made i get to out preform any m390 i have....

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

@@preppinainteasy9965 not a fan of lionsteel or their ht. And yes 20cv is the American equivalent of Bohler m390

[@preppinainteasy9965]

that m4 m390 is a monster its softer but its for the good its a hell of a mini pry bar also...lol im not much on there folders i think they heat them the same....which i believe they should ht the folders alot harder

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

@@preppinainteasy9965 I only use carbon fixed blades. 01 5160 1095 D2 etc

[@butthead9760]

Btw it's a para 3 not "pm3"