Sharpening Drill Bits Lisle Grinder TIPS 466 pt1 tubalcain

This is a multi-part series on HOW TO SHARPEN A DRILL BIT USING THE LISLE DRILL GRINDER. Watch all 8 videos about the restoration & use of this machine.

[@josephpetito1351]

Always have to go back to this-- Don't use the machine often enough. Thanks for keeping it available!

[@danbreyfogle8486]

I have never seen a machine like this work, so many adjustments and the bit really does look good when it is done. Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge Mr. Pete.

[@johnpiccione9648]

Now there's a REAL Craftsman right there ladies and Gentile men. An old school teacher. I love it. Thank you so much Mr Pete. Great job!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@Daledavispratt]

For someone who does as much auction/yard sale purchasing as you do, that is indeed a very worthwhile machine to have! I think back to the many hundreds of drill bits you have found in various boxes from sales...it's time to make them useful again! Nice one. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

[@freddydoe6347]

Mr Pete can we all send you our drill bits for regrinding?

[@mrpete222]

Thank you

[@Abom79]

Mr. Pete, great job on the restoration on the Lisle! Great explanation on how to properly use it as well. Between you and I making videos on this machine, we’re making the value go way up! LOL! I believe these are the best drill grinders for the money, and much greater size range compared to other more expensive models.

[@mrpete222]

Yep, I think we pretty much covered it. In fact, I think I beat it to death.

[@ypaulbrown]

@@mrpete222 love your sense of humor Sir......Cheers, Paul

[@cohendane4875]

instablaster

[@bigbob1699]

A long time ago I hit up the tool crib attendant for any drills he might have for my son special ed class. He could not help , but had a coffee can like yours next to a Black and Decker sharpener like yours . 1/2 hour later I had a coffee can of sharp drills and a happy shop teacher.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍Awesome

[@RetroSteamTech]

Mr Pete, thank you so much for this series of videos. I find this machine fascinating and your restoration really interesting to watch.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for watching

[@isbcornbinder]

Very well explained. I have a STERLING drill bit grinder. I bought it about 3 weeks ago and I have restored it. I have ordered some new parts from Macdonaugh/Sterling to replace the missing ones . The restoration consisted of a good cleaning and a repaint. My STERLING was made in 1968. It may have been in storage most of the last 50 years because there is no visible wear. Like you, I made a guard for the stone. This Sterling never came with an OEM guard. I have posted pictures of my Sterling restoration on Garage Journal forum.

[@mrpete222]

I'll have to look up information on the grinder. I am not familiar with it. I think you got a goodbye

[@aj9270]

I truly appreciate your time making these great informative videos Mr. Pete I have learned alot from you over the years again thank you !

[@mrpete222]

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[@familyd5952]

Good morning Mr Pete... Your presentation is equal to the results accomplished... perfect!!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@geckoproductions4128]

Thanks for the lesson Mr.Pete. I watched the renovation videos, but just for entertainment. THIS video taught me about drill bits. Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

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[@CreaseysWorkshop]

This series helped me to figure out how the attachment on my dbit grinder works. I have had great success with it for the first time. Thanks Mr Peterson!

[@mrpete222]

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[@SargentRooster]

Thanks Mr. Pete I learned more from these series of videos than I ever thought I would. Although my shop doesn't have such a grinder, if we ever get our hands on one, we have a great foundation on which to "get our learning curve".

[@stxrynn]

Watching the tool hold the perfect angles, it made sense why my hand held attempts were so poor. Very enlightening.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@Tryin2FlyII]

mrpete I watched the tear down and rebuild and this looks brand spanking New!! Great Job!!! Works really good too. I'll have to keep an eye out for one I could sure use it GREAT Videos - as always Two Thumbs Up Sir !!!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@gregoryrogers6100]

Best vid on this I've seen yet. You are a good teacher.thank you

[@mrpete222]

Thank you

[@rwbishop]

Back in A&P (Airframe & Powerplant) school c. early 70's, they put a heavy emphasis on bit grinding by hand. We started with special wood (twist drill training) bits before moving on to the real things. We had to do them till they came out perfect every time; the final checks were visual, dimensional, and chucking said bit in a drill press, starting a hole in Aluminum scrap, then stopping the press. There had to be two equal, well formed chips curling out along side the bit. We ground bits for days till we could seemingly do them by feel behind the back... it was a valuable skill that saw a lot of use through the years...

[@mrpete222]

Wow, that was some thorough training

[@slypig24]

We had a tough Apprentice training master. We were called Fitters & Turners in Australia. Not sure of your title. But looking back the training lasts a lifetime.

[@timturner7609]

Great job on the restoration. It looks better than a bought one!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@Jim-ie6uf]

Exceptional series.

[@MrGoosePit]

Great demonstration Mr. Pete!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@ypaulbrown]

Dear Mr Peterson, this was very informative, I am headed to go look at a Lisle 91000 today, so hopefully all the parts are there....your video was extremely easy to understand.......I would have loved to have you for a shop teacher......best wishes, Paul

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@MaturePatriot]

Seems the Lisle drill grinder would be a good tool to train your grandson on, then he could sharpen your bits to his hearts content. LOL - Very nicely done. Would like to have one of those as I am terrible at freehand sharpening. See you in part 2.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@andymandyandsheba4571]

really enjoyed this mr pete

[@mrpete222]

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[@pgs8597]

Pretty sharp presentation Lyle. Cheers Peter

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jdshenanigans9265]

Never used oneof these drill bit grinders was very educational great video bud

[@mrpete222]

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[@lomsomesGarage]

Another great viedo sir I always enjoy learning something new

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@stanwooddave9758]

Great information, great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@mrpete222]

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[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Nice machine 👍🏼

[@christurley391]

Thanks for the video. The original grade of stones are a bit difficult to find. Both the diameter and abrasive grade was special to the application.

[@derwissenskiosk8041]

I never saw such a beautyfull ground drill bit... What a fantasic machine... :D

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much. Watch the next part also

[@derwissenskiosk8041]

I watch every Video Mrpete... It even entertains a 16year old everytime, sitting here in Germany ... : ) The power of the internet

[@cdefilippo7]

MR. PETE GREAT JOB IN RESTORING DRILL GRINDer, I HAVE DONE SOME CASTING MYSELF, VERY NICE, I KNOW JUST WHAT THE FEELING IS, BREAKING THE CASTING FROM MOLD : YUO DO NICE WORK !!! carl defilippo

[@mikeadrover5173]

Great Vid and Thanks. The complete series was amazing,. Restoring old tools and equipment is "COOL" ~M~ NJ 07922

[@mrpete222]

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[@steveone]

Nice job . Looks like a newie !

[@mrpete222]

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[@kevinwillis9126]

Excellent work mrpete.. Thanks for sharing sir..

[@mrpete222]

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[@ALSomthin]

This is really a great machine! I gotta get one. I see all these guys on youtube setting up grinding attachments and using the sides of the grinding wheel pretending to be experts claiming its ok to use the side of the wheel. l had one blow up on me so I know from personal experience that its not O.K. When I was a kid in in 1965 my dad told me never use the side of the wheel. He said you may get away with it for awhile but sooner or later it will blow. Every time I was tempted to side load I would hear his voice in my head giving me the advice he gave me when I was seven years old. One fine day I totally ignored that advice and boom the wheel blew but I was "lucky "had my face shield on and didn't get hit by a big chunk in the face but it got my hand and broke three of my fingers and tore up lots of skin that took awhile to heal up. I put a diamond wheel on it and now I fel pretty safe but it bent the spindle a thou or two.

[@mrpete222]

Wow, that was a harrowing experience for you

[@ALSomthin]

@@mrpete222 Just another thing compared to some of the other stuff thats happened over the years I have had a rough life life.

[@johnbower]

Hi mrpete222, that was very interesting and looked like a perfect result to sharpening that drill, but you are going to have to find a way of changing those bearings.

[@peterhaan9068]

Man, I couldn't agree more! Ear plugs required!

[@policedog4030]

I just did this for the first time on a 1951 one horsepower Sears Craftsman single phase motor; the bearing swap actually was quite easy compared to something with an interference fit like an arbor. I found the old bearings came off and the new ones on with no cuss words required just a common two or three jaw puller. (though for the installation I did put the armature in the freezer and the bearings in the sunshine). Also side benefit of that project is I found quite a lot of debris inside my motor and superficially on the windings and after brushing that out with a soft paintbrush and vacuum my motor sounded a lot happier.

[@steph2211]

Very very nice mrpete 👍

[@mrpete222]

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[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

The layout is very much like the General drill bit sharpening holder that we see everywhere.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@milesthom3201]

I enjoyed watching this. I wish there was an affordable unit available. I have always used one of those cheap grinding jigs that swing on a peg. They can do a passable job but impossible to set up accurately.

[@mrpete222]

The good ones are never cheap

[@lomsomesGarage]

Happy Father's day Mr Pete

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@r4z0r7o3]

Mr. Pete, your editing is usually spot on, perhaps you've caught a cold? There's some duplicated footage in the middle.. When I was a film-student, I remember how sick I got of watching the cuts over and over and over again. It's super-duper easy to include dupe shots, since you're constantly scrubbing back and forth. One trick we used was to have a fresh pair of eyes (someone else) take a look at the final-draft, just to be sure. Though it was handy at the school, because we could simply trade reviews. Anyway, interesting machine, made me envious a bit. Though it also gave me ideas on how I can use my wee 'lil (vintage) craftsman jig more effectively. Thanks!

[@r4z0r7o3]

Yep I agree. It's the exact opposite as with political ads - useless information, repeated over and over and over and over... :D My comment was mostly just to suggest that "a fresh pair of eyeballs" is invaluable sometimes. Ofc we give Mr. Pete a TON of leeway, and appreciation. I def. didn't intend to sound harsh.

[@SirDrakeNewcanon]

It's a great tool!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@marks5603]

You did such a beautiful job restoring that machine, especially the casting work. But for the life of me I don't understand your reluctance to address those noisy bearings! Great presentation as always. Oh, and the trick to the hammer tone paint is spraying wetter than our training permits.

[@stevenbaynes2646]

Awesome job Sir, are you on The Square or just an Articifer?

[@mark-]

Mr Pete are trying to test us here 13:30 because he drill bit supposed to go into the notch and sit flush and not go to the end of the point on that drill bit guide?

[@y0utubeu5ername]

I think I'll stick to buying new bits as and when required, it just seems way too complicated to sharpen old bits on that machine LOL! Nice series of videos.

[@mrpete222]

I agree, it is very complicated. But the geometry is complicated. It's not like a pencil sharpener

[@terrytitus9258]

You did a wonderful job restoring the Lisle. Does a great job, but I think I will stick with my little Drill Doctor. A lot less work!

[@josephwilson6651]

So with all the bits you've acquired over all the auctions, and now having the ability to regrind them, you must have several complete sets of letter, number, fractional, metric, in H.S.S., Carbide,Cobalt,Silver Deming extended shank and so on.I suppose many people would pay a good amount of money for a set of Mr.Pete222 reconditioned drill bits. Something to think on so you may recoup some of the monetary outlay from production of your videos

[@mrpete222]

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[@4speed3pedals]

Damage to the shank can be reduced to almost negated if all three holes of a keyed chuck are used for tightening. I do not have much experience with the keyless variety so I do not know if they slip but, I would not doubt cheaper versions do and worn versions do. This is why I like the keyed chuck for any kind of heavy drilling.

[@mrpete222]

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[@pinterelectric]

Is that the right wheel? Looks like it wore quickly

[@d.j.9961]

Soes Lyle still sell that model? I woukd love to own one!!!

[@73superglide62]

Well Done treacher

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@ronpeck3226]

Thanks you, looking forward to the follow ups. Thinning the web?

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@hopper1]

About ten years ago, during a "purge" (shop clean up) at my day job, I threw one of those drill grinders in the scrap bin. Nobody, including me, knew what the heck it was. Years later I found out what the tool was for and I'm still kicking myself in the rear for throwing it out.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@1musicsearcher]

Yep, that’ll work.

[@mrpete222]

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[@warrenjones744]

I dunno Mr Pete, It seems like a convoluted way to work. I have an old Darex M-1 that is simple to use and not near as complicated to set up the drill in the fixture. The resulting grind from the Lisle is certainly nice though. Bigger drills I do by hand with a gauge. any way it has been a nice series. Cheers

[@mrpete222]

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[@JamesDedmon]

Neat I see the advantage to this machine to my SRD. However my SRD is somewhat simpler

[@mrpete222]

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[@joshwalker5605]

Having second thoughts about not replacing those bearings yet? ;-) Looks great and thanks for the video!

[@mrpete222]

There sure are a lot of people worried about bearings. I just installed six bearings in my bandsaw. And three bearings in a gearbox. And I'm quite sick of it

[@joshwalker5605]

mrpete222 didn’t mean anything by it, just an innocent comment. I’m sure i’d be tired of it as well.

[@jake38311]

So I'm 2 yrs. late but I just watched your vid. I have a Lisle 91000 in a newer version. It is missing the shank that holds the diamond dresser. If you still own yours, a few dimensions would be helpful for making one. The diameter of one end is the same as the drill holder fixture and the length is approximately the width as the fixture mounting block. I got that. Question is, what is the diameter and approximate length of the big end with the cross hole for the diamond? And what diameter diamond shank was used? I'm guessing 3/8" but I'd like to make the replacement close to the original. Please watch my KZbin vid on the use of a Mohawk Drill Grinder. (since been sold). Beautiful restore on your Lisle by the way!

[@mrpete222]

Send me a sketch of the part that you need dimensions for. Send them to this email address. [e-mail]

[@Robbievigil]

It's too bad they dont make these anymore. With Abom and yourself showing this machine the ebay prices have skyrocketed. One day I'll have to bite the bullet and buy one

[@mrpete222]

I don't my little videos had anything to do with the prices

[@Robbievigil]

mrpete222 mr. Pete, if you could restore ice on your channel an eskimo would buy it!

[@fidolokoteproductions9128]

I think I going to try to make a jig to dress my grinder wheel that way looks a a lathe boring bar holder hybrid

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@codelicious6590]

It's weird how hardware sizes look so much larger than actual size on camera. I could've sword that bolt was a 5/8" until the hand was near it.

[@daleburrell6273]

19:00 That's only a problem with carbon steel drill bits...high-speed steel drill bits are a lot more resistant to heat.

[@mrpete222]

Very true

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Like the Lisle set up,,now to get use to the DAREx ,,,(@@)! Going train the Bride to sharpen bits, will be good to out side sourse of income is the plan too,,,:)> Bear.

[@mrpete222]

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[@johnapel2856]

Interesting. A full metal jacket Drill Doctor! Yes, I know, blasphemy. Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@jamesciampi6392]

Comment on your eye guard,the one you removed.If you scrape the edge of the plexiglas or lexan smooth w/a scissor,then apply flame from a propane torch very carefully.Touch and move,touch and move.The edge will become transparent.This will work with Plexiglas,I am not sure about Lexan. Play the torch along the edge quickly so as not to cause edge to start to flame.We called this process Flaming.

[@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC]

Why flame polish the edges of a consumable part? Even a transparent edge is an obstacle for visibility. It doesn't provide any functional benefit, and the effort is discarded when the guard gets replaced. Though I guess if waste were the goal, flame polishing offhand plastics that have absorbed moisture from the air is a good chance to meet it.

[@jamesciampi6392]

Dream Services International t

[@jamesciampi6392]

Dream Services International There are some of us who take pride in doing a good job, obviously you are not one of us. It is a matter of pride in workmanship.some call it gold plating I call it “Pride”.

[@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC]

You can take pride in whatever you choose. Certainly, it's fashionable to find any excuse for conceit. If you're out to change Lyle's mind, I somehow doubt he's eager to frivolously add more effort to a part that he's already acknowledged will need to be replaced. If you're out to change mine, you should read what I wrote. Does your boastfulness remove water content from the plastic? If you don't understand that "doing a good job" does not start with the finishing touches, then you can certainly count me out of your imaginary club.

[@rwbishop]

In my limited experience, flame polishing is kind of a skill of it's own. I suggest first practicing on some scrap material...

[@American_Made]

Do you like this model over others like the darex?

[@mrpete222]

No

[@airgunningyup]

what I learned.. machinists 50 years ago had more patience than I do .. (-:

[@lilflatty2472]

Face shield is a very cheap investment! It cost you about $150 each time you have to go to the eye doctor and have him remove sliver of metal out of your eye. A $5 sheild from harbor freight is well worth it.

[@mrpete222]

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[@garrockwaters304]

That makes for a beautiful job but if it weren't for the honor of the thing I would just as well use my cheapo Drill Doctor!

[@WeTrudgeOn]

Watching the restoration was interesting but the love for this grinder is lost on me. They are no longer in production and they seem to be quite scarce so the chances of most of us actually finding and using one are slim to none. I have been sharpening bits by hand for 35 years but I would like an actual easy to use drill bit grinder for precision sharpening but I'd just as soon not spend four or five pension checks on it. Since this one is out of production it would seem maybe the patent has expired? If so it would be really nice to see a "building your own version of a Lisle grinder".

[@jimdorman1550]

YOU are Good. But if you wouldn't mind, show us the degrees on the stone at impact. I meant contact. LoL

[@73superglide62]

Pete 222 do they come up 4 sale because not seen one be 4

[@mrpete222]

Ebay

[@drdiesel1]

Looks like Lisle doesn't make drill grinders anymore, anybody make a modern equivalent unit? (excluding the Drill Doc type stuff)

[@randombuilds8336]

Andy Lawrence darex, they are pricey though. I've seen them from $400 up to $800 for used ones. but they do have 2 diamond wheels on them.

[@randombuilds8336]

here's an example of the one I'm talking about m.ebay.com/itm/Darex-Drill-Bit-Sharpener-1-3hp-3150RPM-with-pedestal-stand-good-condition-/142826733852?nav=SEARCH

[@mrpete222]

The Derex is the best

[@brucemcclary3260]

I’ve had my drill doctor for about 10/15 years now,it works perfect,is easy to set up and inexpensive,very happy with it,very good company,why overcomplicate things?

[@daleburrell6273]

20:00 That's pretty-!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@phillipyannone3195]

I thought it was funny when you said "no one is going to have a shadow graph machine", and I have the same one.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@MikaelS1977]

I was tought to grind drillbits careful so they dont turn blue. But later in my adult life people tell me thats a myth HSS drillbits dont lose temper when blue, but old "corbon steel" does.

[@mrpete222]

That's pretty much true

[@leonardpearlman4017]

Well, I'm not doing this, but isn't the idea of "High Speed Steel" that it can still cut when red-hot? This seems to suggest that if it just gets hot enough to color but isn't GLOWING, you're probably ok? I have to say, I've never thought of this until just this moment, so good question!

[@transmitterguy478]

Buy a Drill Doctor for $100 and you will be happy and is fast and cuts split bits too.

[@tleg6969]

Most of the dull bits at my shop are running machines right next to me.

[@ronpeck3226]

Good one!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@SHADOW.GGG-]

please murica ditch imperial

[@umajunkcollector]

too complicated for a two bit bit to sharpen

[@ZafarKhan-qs5ry]

I do really respect your skills and videos, but at the same time I have some reservations that you astray from the subject. You talk too much and stretch the matter of 3 minutes to 30 minutes.

[@rwhoward2582]

Way too complicated; put it back in the junk where it was.

[@umajunkcollector]

but can it sharpen pencils too?

[@sthenzel]

When you have a bunch of dull drill bits beyond 3/4 or 1" , reconditioning them saves more money than you spend on the setup time. And - your sharpener has much better business hours than the hardware store when you need a sharp bit.